Topic: Did you notice that? (Read 132161 times)

Method of Madness · « **Reply #300 on:** 09 Sep 2013, 15:04 »

Quote from: Mlle Germain on 09 Sep 2013, 14:53

This was possible for some time in Germany

Is it not possible anymore? This is actually fairly common in the states.

Loki · « **Reply #301 on:** 09 Sep 2013, 15:27 »

Just checked Wikipedia, because that surprised me as well.

The surname of the child must be the surname of one of the parents. So if Mr Foo marries Ms Bar, the only way how their future child can be called Foo-Bar is if one of them decides to take the name Foo-Bar upon marriage.

I think. Checking it out on mobile is kinda a hassle.

Method of Madness · « **Reply #302 on:** 09 Sep 2013, 15:29 »

If you have an Android phone, download the app, it's pretty useful. Also, that's...really messed up.

Masterpiece · « **Reply #303 on:** 09 Sep 2013, 15:29 »

You goddamn programmers

Loki · « **Reply #304 on:** 09 Sep 2013, 15:39 »

I do have the app, but ideally I'd like a way to have both Wikipedia and the forum on my screen, because the law is rather confusing, and it gets more difficult if the parents aren't married.

Method of Madness · « **Reply #305 on:** 09 Sep 2013, 15:45 »

I'm pretty sure over here the parents can give the kid either or both names, regardless of marital status.

pwhodges · « **Reply #306 on:** 09 Sep 2013, 15:51 »

My nephew has both his parents' surnames, but not hyphenated (so I guess one is registered as a forename). They "forgot" to give the older daughter both names, so were particularly concerned to get it right the second time around!

Carl-E · « **Reply #307 on:** 09 Sep 2013, 19:59 »

My wife hyphenated.

The girls both have her maiden name as a second middle name, with my last name as their last name. This was my wife's idea.

The hyphenating's a PITA. 17 letters long... both names are German, too, and no one in the states seems able to pronounce my part, though hers is easy. So when read, they start off fine and never finish...

Method of Madness · « **Reply #308 on:** 09 Sep 2013, 20:48 »

I wasn't saying it's for everyone, just that it's shitty to not allow people to do it.

Storel · « **Reply #309 on:** 12 Sep 2013, 11:49 »

Yeah, but allowing hyphenation for anything can get messy when it starts happening across multiple generations.

For example, if John Smith and Mary Jones get married and become John and Mary Smith-Jones, that's not so bad. But what happens when their kid, Ellen Smith-Jones, marries Fred Wilmington-Smithers? For convenience, perhaps they simply keep their existing names, or exchange some names (Fred Wilmington-Jones and Ellen Smith-Smithers?), but what about their kids? Poor little Paul Smith-Wilmington-Smithers-Jones will probably fall in love with Sue Baker and decide to take her last name when they get married, out of desperation... (God forbid he should marry Nancy Green-Johnson-Bailey-Mortimer.)

Grognard · « **Reply #310 on:** 12 Sep 2013, 11:57 »

One hyphen and no more, lest thy descendants curse thee and curse thy antecedents.

1st Bob, chapter 2, verse 5.

Storel · « **Reply #311 on:** 12 Sep 2013, 11:59 »

Now there's a commandment I can really get behind.

Carl-E · « **Reply #312 on:** 12 Sep 2013, 12:15 »

When my wife's friend Jane Alexander married Allen Manifold, they hyphenated. Their firstborn was named Asher Byron Alexander-Manifold.

I still maintain that it's the name of an engine part for a Rolls-Royce.

Edit: My bad, it's a part for a Sebring.

Method of Madness · « **Reply #313 on:** 12 Sep 2013, 17:17 »

Quote from: Storel on 12 Sep 2013, 11:49

Yeah, but allowing hyphenation for anything can get messy when it starts happening across multiple generations.

Maybe, but that's their problem. It's not the government's place to get involved just because someone's name is unwieldy.

jwhouk · « **Reply #314 on:** 12 Sep 2013, 18:31 »

It is when it doesn't fit on a form needed for some public service, like voter registration or to pay taxes.

Carl-E · « **Reply #315 on:** 12 Sep 2013, 20:18 »

That's how names get shortened. Put in as much as you can, and forget the rest.

Method of Madness · « **Reply #316 on:** 12 Sep 2013, 21:31 »

My friend Josephine always became Joseph when we took standardized tests.

Barmymoo · « **Reply #317 on:** 13 Sep 2013, 02:43 »

Make up a new blended surname! Smith-Jones and Wilmington-Smithers could become Smithington.

ChaoSera · « **Reply #318 on:** 13 Sep 2013, 03:10 »

My former german teacher named his son Johann Christian Teophil <LastName>.
I still pity the poor fella

Pilchard123 · « **Reply #319 on:** 13 Sep 2013, 04:31 »

Quote from: Barmymoo on 13 Sep 2013, 02:43

Make up a new blended surname! Smith-Jones and Wilmington-Smithers could become Smithington.

I knew a guy called Harry Washington-Smith; we occasionally called him Harold Poshington-Spiffington.

ankhtahr · « **Reply #320 on:** 13 Sep 2013, 05:40 »

A friend of mine has the maximum number of names allowed by German law.

Carl-E · « **Reply #321 on:** 13 Sep 2013, 06:19 »

Four? Or six? or are we talking a maximum length?

ankhtahr · « **Reply #322 on:** 13 Sep 2013, 06:32 »

I think it is 4 or 5 middle names.

Is it cold in here? · « **Reply #323 on:** 13 Sep 2013, 07:11 »

Quote from: ChaoSera on 13 Sep 2013, 03:10

My former german teacher named his son Johann Christian Teophil <LastName>.
I still pity the poor fella

That's almost as bad as "little Bobby Tables" from xkcd.

ankhtahr · « **Reply #324 on:** 13 Sep 2013, 07:16 »

Well, I'm more worried about what the name implies. Christian on its own is a common German first name, but together with Teophil/Theophil, which means "loved by god", well, that definitely means something. And the name sounds very old fashioned.

(and I hope his last name wasn't really "<LastName>")

Is it cold in here? · « **Reply #325 on:** 13 Sep 2013, 07:52 »

That's the way I took it.

Loki · « **Reply #326 on:** 13 Sep 2013, 15:02 »

Quote from: ankhtahr on 13 Sep 2013, 07:16

(and I hope his last name wasn't really "<LastName>")

Reminds me of that one spam mail we got once which literally ended with the words "Yours, YourName".

Storel · « **Reply #327 on:** 14 Sep 2013, 03:24 »

Quote from: ankhtahr on 13 Sep 2013, 07:16

Well, I'm more worried about what the name implies. Christian on its own is a common German first name, but together with Teophil/Theophil, which means "loved by god", well, that definitely means something. And the name sounds very old fashioned.

"Teophil/Theophil" (loved by God) is the Greek-roots version of the German name "Gottlieb"; the Latin-roots version is "Amadeus". That's why Wolfgang Gottlieb Mozart and Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart turn out to be the same person. (Similarly, Theodore and Dorothea/Dorothy both mean "gift of God".)

And Johann Sebastian Bach's youngest son, also a composer, was named Johann Christian Bach. Wikipedia says he "is noted for influencing the concerto style of Mozart."

So my guess would be that whoever named his/her kid "Johann Christian Teophil _______" may have done so in homage to their favorite Bach and the man he influenced. But that's just my guess.

(There were actually quite a few members of Bach's family who became composers, though none of them were quite as famous as old J.S. Bach himself. Carl Philipp Emanuel Bach, the aforementioned J.C. Bach, and Anna Magdalena Bach may be the best known. At least, they're the main ones I've heard of.)

KOK · « **Reply #328 on:** 14 Sep 2013, 04:57 »

Johannes Chrysostomus Wolfgangus Theophilus Mozart is what he was baptised according to Wikipedia.

Redball · « **Reply #329 on:** 14 Sep 2013, 05:29 »

Quote from: Storel on 14 Sep 2013, 03:24

(There were actually quite a few members of Bach's family who became composers, though none of them were quite as famous as old J.S. Bach himself. Carl Philipp Emanuel Bach, the aforementioned J.C. Bach, and Anna Magdalena Bach may be the best known. At least, they're the main ones I've heard of.)

J.S. Bach wasn't famous at first, as this fictional anecdote reminded me: In the 20.1-volume series from which the "Master and Commander" movie was made, Capt. Jack Aubrey and physician Stephen Maturin are the main characters and also pretty good amateur musicians. Between voyages during the Napoleonic wars, in England circa 1800, Aubrey greets Maturin with some sheet music in hand. "Did you know London Bach had a father!?" "Most people do." Aubrey had been looking through music in a store and chanced on some chamber music in moldy condition. Other music by JS Bach had rotted, as I recall.

pwhodges · « **Reply #330 on:** 14 Sep 2013, 06:20 »

Legere-factus · « **Reply #331 on:** 23 Sep 2013, 10:40 »

Obviously Hannelore has lots of piecings in her ears, but I only noticed today Faye has two in each lobe too. Not always, and they're just little dots so sometimes it's hard to see but they're definitely there.

Nepiophage · « **Reply #332 on:** 31 Oct 2013, 09:20 »

When Marigold meets Dale outside the convenience store, she is holding a cup with UHA.. ABUK.. on it. What could that be? http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1771

Zebediah · « **Reply #333 on:** 31 Oct 2013, 09:35 »

Even more interesting is that in the first and second panels the cup says UHA...BUKK. The second line doesn't change to ABUK until the fifth panel.

Also in panel three there's a Z showing, so the first line is UHAZ. Still can't parse it into anything sensible. U HAZ BUKKS?

Method of Madness · « **Reply #334 on:** 31 Oct 2013, 12:40 »

U HAZ A BUK probably means that giant monstrosity of a beverage costs one American Dollar (plus applicable taxes).

DSL · « **Reply #335 on:** 31 Oct 2013, 13:23 »

Quote from: Method of Madness on 31 Oct 2013, 12:40

U HAZ A BUK probably means that giant monstrosity of a beverage costs one American Dollar (plus applicable taxes).

I read it as "U HAZ A BUKKET" -- also referring to the size of a Slurpee-analog that is probably not so much dispensed as launched.

Pilchard123 · « **Reply #336 on:** 31 Oct 2013, 14:32 »

I thought it was "U HAZ A BUKKIT", like the lolrus.

Storel · « **Reply #337 on:** 14 Nov 2013, 11:27 »

Okay, remember the Malaysian Battle Spatula? I think I finally found out what one of those looks like while catching up on Full Frontal Nerdity just now: check out panel 5.

cesium133 · « **Reply #338 on:** 14 Nov 2013, 12:09 »

If Nethack has taught me anything, it's that kobold meat is bad for you.

ankhtahr · « **Reply #339 on:** 14 Nov 2013, 12:30 »

Quote from: cesium133 on 14 Nov 2013, 12:09

If Nethack has taught me anything, it's that kobold meat is bad for you.

hehehe

I now have to fight the urge to start playing nethack again...

draiden · « **Reply #340 on:** 15 Nov 2013, 06:30 »

Maybe it's been pointed out already, but in 1979, did Dora recognizes the art gallery guy and Faye complains she should have got twice as much money, but Dora is the one who originally made the deal with the guy and did not know him originally.

Carl-E · « **Reply #341 on:** 15 Nov 2013, 10:12 »

Sometimes a punch line is more important than continuity.

Method of Madness · « **Reply #342 on:** 15 Nov 2013, 10:24 »

Or maybe Dora did some research in between.

draiden · « **Reply #343 on:** 15 Nov 2013, 10:47 »

Well, the joke could have been just as funny with proper continuity, I think. And Doras line seems more like surprise recognition rather than knowing she would see him upon return. Raven could have delivered the line, and since she originally majored in interior design (I think, from when they repainted the shop) it would make sense that she would know some artsy stuff. Maybe it's nitpicking, but it throws me off whenever I read that comic, so I thought I'd post here.

~~Binks~~ · « **Reply #344 on:** 21 Nov 2013, 02:51 »

I don't know if this is the right place to put this, but I've been noticing a lot of Claire/Marten shippers and it confuses me. In 615, Martens line indicates that he would probably mind being with someone who was born male. I don't mind Claire being trans and I know Jeph loves to show how inclusive and tolerant he is, but a relationship between her and marten just doesn't make sense to me. And that doesn't make marten a bigot, that's probably just his preference.

pwhodges · « **Reply #345 on:** 21 Nov 2013, 03:30 »

Discussion of relationships in the immediate context of the comic is one thing, but any shipping outside that context is shut down in this forum.

Quote from: Binks on 21 Nov 2013, 02:51

In 615 [...] someone who was born male.

That is not the way to refer to a trans woman - please see this thread. I doubt that Jeph would now write that strip using the words that Dora says.

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I don't mind Claire being trans and I know Jeph loves to show how inclusive and tolerant he is

Don't you realise how patronising that remark is, both to Jeph and to the whole trans* community?

Quote from: Binks on 14 Nov 2013, 20:43

Well here's hoping I don't get banned soon for generally being a pain in the ass. That is one of my favorite hobbies!

Stick to the rules and take note of what people say, and you'll be fine; but there's no free pass because you said it first.

~~Binks~~ · « **Reply #346 on:** 21 Nov 2013, 04:24 »

Holy shit, you people are more sensitive than I expected. LOL. Okay. Um... My bad?

~~GarandMarine~~ · « **Reply #347 on:** 21 Nov 2013, 04:29 »

Marten has matured a fair amount since that strip, and of course he's gotten to know Claire too. A couple years ago I probably would have reacted pretty poorly to the concept, a couple years later I've actively dated two trans women. Secret of the night: They're just women.

I also wouldn't call being asked to not refer to a group of individuals in a manner they find insulting or derogatory sensitive.

~~Binks~~ · « **Reply #348 on:** 21 Nov 2013, 04:34 »

I don't understand how that's insulting, though. They WERE born male, right? I mean it's not like I said "freak" or "tranny" or "faggot."

pwhodges · « **Reply #349 on:** 21 Nov 2013, 04:46 »

Please read at least some of the thread I linked. You will find it educational (as I and many others did).

Specifically, whatever reason caused a trans woman to be classified as male after birth does not mean that they are male. Yes, there is scope for misunderstanding; but reading what the trans* community has told us about it should help you get past that.

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