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Author Topic: WCDT: 2549-2553 (7 October - 11 October, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread  (Read 29057 times)

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Or will Faye's normal hyperbole continue to be exactly that, as it always has been?
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In the worst case, Dora will become an insecure wreck, Hannelore a nervous wreck, Marten will get stuck in stasis, Steve will constantly get into relationships with unattainable women, Penelope will become a judgemental ass, and Sven will turn to random women for comfort. Faye will end up nearly dead and have to move from the shame of it all.

Wait...
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Undoing years of progress is pretty bad. Well, except for Marten, he'd pretty much be the same.
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Dale knows Faye and the others by now, so he's used to the sass.   I think he's probably going to fight back at some stage, but eventually he's gonna wear Faye down as an employer.
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Nope. Don't wanna imagine the aftertaste of that punishment, though.
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And Marten speaks truth to power.  :-D
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Dale actually initiated the workplace sass.  http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2543

He's also demonstrated that he can lay down the boundaries when he's had enough and still remain understanding and turn the situation to a more positive direction during the May story arc. 
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Dale actually initiated the workplace sass.  http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2543

It's only just occurred to me (took me long enough) that this situation is similar to the one where Marten was given the responsibility for training interns.

Whereas Marten's reaction was to admit he didn't really know what he was doing, Faye's is to ... well, to be Faye. Prickly and defensive.
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Dale actually initiated the workplace sass.  http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2543

No, Faye asked for that: "This is the espresso machine"
Either insulting his intelligence or being sarcastic.
Which ever meaning you choose, Dale's reaction was along the lines of "OK, two can play at that game"
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a) too much is being made about Faye's "abuse". It's not abuse. Its just who she is.

b) Faye's fears about things being different are very real. I've seen it happen time and again. Someone gets promoted, and all of a sudden the relationship changes. He/she doesn't have the same rapport with his or her coworkers that they used to, you don't joke around as much, and it's just not the same. That promotion definitely has the potential to wreck some friendships.  If I were Faye, I would have told Dora that I would accept the additional responsibility and pay raise, but without the official title. The title just changes the dynamic way too much.

Though, to be fair,  the power to set schedules might be enough to foment that dynamic shift, title or no.
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Dale actually initiated the workplace sass.  http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2543

No, Faye asked for that: "This is the espresso machine"
Either insulting his intelligence or being sarcastic.
Which ever meaning you choose, Dale's reaction was along the lines of "OK, two can play at that game"

I read it as Faye being awkward, much like Marten's "This is a bookshelf" 

http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2204

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a) too much is being made about Faye's "abuse". It's not abuse. Its just who she is.

b) Faye's fears about things being different are very real. I've seen it happen time and again. Someone gets promoted, and all of a sudden the relationship changes. He/she doesn't have the same rapport with his or her coworkers that they used to, you don't joke around as much, and it's just not the same. That promotion definitely has the potential to wreck some friendships.  If I were Faye, I would have told Dora that I would accept the additional responsibility and pay raise, but without the official title. The title just changes the dynamic way too much.

Though, to be fair,  the power to set schedules might be enough to foment that dynamic shift, title or no.
And who Faye is is abusive. Thanks to Comedic Sociopathy it goes okay and we laugh at it, and it's mostly low grade and verbal, but it doesn't change that reality. Even characters have called her out on it. It was one of the reasons for her therapy if I recall correctly.

What friendships? Two of her three now subordinates immediately attempted to quit when she leveled up, and the third probably isn't that into petty workplace power dynamics.
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And Marten speaks truth to power.  :-D
Heh. Yes.

Speaking of which... On Faye's abuse, how horrible Tai is etc.: Parody? Exaggeration? Who needs it?
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Ooh, burn! Good one, Marty! :laugh:
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a) too much is being made about Faye's "abuse". It's not abuse. Its just who she is.

Plenty of real abusers have hidden behind that defense.

Faye, though, I think Raven is right: http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=838
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Yes, but unlike the kitty in Raven's example Faye understands English and can change her ways if she's called out on it. She's pretty much past due to be seriously called out, not just by Marten or someone like that. Letting it slide because 'that's just the way she is' isn't an excuse, and it doesn't help her really. Now that she is a manager, things do change. A co-worker can get by giving someone hard times because if it gets to bad, the one taking it can always go to the boss to talk about it. Well, now Faye is 'the boss', so that doesn't fly anymore.
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Faye seems to have mellowed quite a bit since beginning therapy. If she were that hard to work with I think that would be highlighted in the comic currently. Reading the comic we inject our own tone, and I think that the tone we're meant to be reading Faye's banter in is a lot lighter. She's sarcastic and a bit abrasive, that's who she is. If/when Faye needs another intervention I think we will see other characters reacting negatively. Like when Dora had to get therapy, there were plenty of warning signs and other character reactions.

As to Faye's attitude being inappropriate for a position of authority... I think Faye (as per the current comic) is realizing that. It might take time for her to let go of the way she's interacted with co-workers at CoD for over a year, but I think she is going to soften up a bit.

But for Faye to completely let go of her snark, esp at work.... well, that is just an unrealistic expectation.
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Well I think that is the direction that Jeph is going with this story line. Faye learning appropriate limits to snarkiness.
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Is...is that a thing? With that name? Why do people call it cheese? DON'T RUIN CHEESE BY CALLING THAT CHEESE!
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Why do all the characters only have small plugs? I've seen plenty of people with ears as big as 2" in real life.
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Dora's aren't that small. I'd say they're about what, half an inch?
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Is...is that a thing? With that name? Why do people call it cheese? DON'T RUIN CHEESE BY CALLING THAT CHEESE!
Yes, and with that name. Although it's a specific area name for something that really can happen in any body crevasse that doesn't receive adequate cleaning, like belly buttons, groin, fun bits, rolls of fat, and, as in this case, around body jewelry. Dead skin+ bacteria feasting on said skin= smelly, flavored, crusty residue.
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That doesn't help! Cheese is good, why ruin cheese by calling dead skin bacteria cheese? :psyduck:

Then again, I can't even imagine how Little Cheese feels about this.
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Ear cheese...have never heard it called that before.
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Eww!  Ew ew ew!  It's funny, putting this in a comic somehow makes it a lot more gross than it would probably be in reality...  And calling it "cheese" sounds especially gross even though cheese is a perfectly nice thing.

Somebody pass the brain bleach, please?

On the other hand, in a culture in which portrayals of women making out are usually obnoxiously porn-ified even in non-porn contexts, it's refreshing to see an artist do pretty much the exact opposite of that.
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Are Tai's pants in the dishwasher again?
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Dora's aren't that small. I'd say they're about what, half an inch?
Dora's are probably somewhere between 0 gauge and maybe half an inch. Tai's are probably closer to 2 gauge.
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On the other hand, in a culture in which portrayals of women making out are usually obnoxiously porn-ified even in non-porn contexts, it's refreshing to see an artist do pretty much the exact opposite of that.
It is, but "ear cheese" is a thought that might have been better passed over in silence.
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In context or in life, ear cheese ruins it for everyone.
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Are Tai's pants in the dishwasher again?
Probably not, but Tai and Dora were in bed. You wear your pants to bed?

Ear cheese...have never heard it called that before.
Heard what called that? Just what is this ear cheese of which we are all disgusted? Ear wax? Crust that built up around Dora's earring? Detritus build up from behind Dora's ear? If I'm gonna be disgusted, I'm gonna know with precision what about.
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Behold the Power of Cheese!

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Cheese Pths!

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Limburger Cheesecake!

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Heard what called that? Just what is this ear cheese of which we are all disgusted? Ear wax? Crust that built up around Dora's earring? Detritus build up from behind Dora's ear? If I'm gonna be disgusted, I'm gonna know with precision what about.
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Yes, and with that name. Although it's a specific area name for something that really can happen in any body crevasse that doesn't receive adequate cleaning, like belly buttons, groin, fun bits, rolls of fat, and, as in this case, around body jewelry. Dead skin+ bacteria feasting on said skin= smelly, flavored, crusty residue.
I should add, it's called cheese because it has the texture of cheese.
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I've heard it referred to as "ear peanut butter".
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I've heard it referred to as "ear peanut butter".

I think that's a different substance.
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Let's look at the cheese making process, shall we?
1) Milk has bacteria or acid introduced into it to curdle it
2) Rennet (a mixture of enzymes commonly obtained from calf stomachs) is added to this mixture
3a) The resulting slimy, semi-firm gel can be salted and packaged as-is for certain cheeses or further processed
3b) For further processing, the whey is drained off, leaving the curds to be cut and pressed into more solid cheeses
4) In either case, cheese is frequently left to "ripen" (a polite term for letting it rot in a controlled fashion) for a period of time ranging from days to years to alter flavors and texture
5) During the ripening time, additional enzymes, bacteria, or molds may be introduced to further influence the final product

Cheese is simultaneously a delicious gift from the heavens and utterly disgusting.  The process that occurs to create "ear cheese" isn't really all that different from actual cheese making.

*goes back to munching room-temperature sharp cheddar*
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... I could quite happily have gone the rest of my life without encountering the concept of "ear cheese". Ew.

Somebody pass the brain bleach, please?

Indeed.

On the other hand, in a culture in which portrayals of women making out are usually obnoxiously porn-ified even in non-porn contexts, it's refreshing to see an artist do pretty much the exact opposite of that.

That's a point. But still, ew...

Oh, and for everyone who's wondering why it's called cheese? If you've ever had the experience of going down on a woman who has a yeast infection, it does taste kind of like cheese. But not in a good way...

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Not doing it for me, HeavyP. Cheesemaking is awesome. I've gone to the Sargento plant, and it was completely fascinating.

Oh, and yummy, too.
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I had been wondering what Dora does with all her new found free time. Now we know.

While I have never intended to get my ears pierced, now I definitely will not.
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Oh, it's absolutely fascinating - I imagine it had to have been a series of accidents or the laziest people on earth who figured out cheese.

"What IS that?"
"Oh man, that milk has gone BAD."
"Throw it in a bucket with those beef scraps and we'll toss it later."
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"Dude, for real?!?  That crap is still in the bucket!"
"Fuck it, go give it to Bob.  He'll eat anything."

And thus, cheese was born.

And I'm not arguing the yummy part, either, cheese is AMAZING.  But, if you take a step back and look at it, sometimes between "reasonable starting material" and "tasty finished product" there are several stages of "what the FUCK?!?"
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I had been wondering what Dora does with all her new found free time. Now we know.

While I have never intended to get my ears pierced, now I definitely will not.

It's only a problem if you don't clean them.  It's like anything, regular hygiene fixes the issue - take the plugs/gauges/piercings out regularly, wash them with warm water, and wash the piercing location with warm soapy water, and you will never have ear cheese.
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Oh, it's absolutely fascinating - I imagine it had to have been a series of accidents or the laziest people on earth who figured out cheese.

"What IS that?"
"Oh man, that milk has gone BAD."
"Throw it in a bucket with those beef scraps and we'll toss it later."
*days pass*
"You haven't thrown that out yet?  It's solidifying!"
"Look, just pour the liquid down that drain and I'll take care of it later."
*weeks pass*
"Dude, for real?!?  That crap is still in the bucket!"
"Fuck it, go give it to Bob.  He'll eat anything."

And thus, cheese was born.

And I'm not arguing the yummy part, either, cheese is AMAZING.  But, if you take a step back and look at it, sometimes between "reasonable starting material" and "tasty finished product" there are several stages of "what the FUCK?!?"

No kidding. But then, a lot of what we now know to be amazing is, bluntly, hella freaky on the face of it. I mean who was the first guy to pull up a lobster and, instead of freaking out at all the spines and claws and waving antennae, said "you know what, I'm gonna eat that."
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