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Re: Doctor Who
« Reply #100 on: 15 Dec 2013, 10:23 »

BK seems to disagree.
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« Reply #101 on: 15 Dec 2013, 10:33 »

... yeah, well ... there's one in every group?
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« Reply #102 on: 15 Dec 2013, 10:35 »

Well yeah, but I mean Gareth is curious (and so am I) as to why he didn't like it.
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Re: Doctor Who
« Reply #103 on: 15 Dec 2013, 16:09 »

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It was overly happy and cheeky (even by the shows standards), and lacked epicness and emotional depth
I thought it was ok, but should have been better for an anniversary episode. I mean why have Billie Piper if you're never actually gonna use Rose? And the big time line changing thing they did didn't really affect anything aside from the latest Doctor
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Re: Doctor Who
« Reply #104 on: 16 Dec 2013, 04:35 »

I think even the staunchest proponents of the show will concede there are some pretty bad episodes, and that the show spends some time in the cheesy SF realm.
Love&Monsters. I'll defend anything Whovian but there's just no excuse for that abomination.
That was exactly the episode I was thinking of.
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« Reply #105 on: 16 Dec 2013, 04:37 »

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I thought it was ok, but should have been better for an anniversary episode. I mean why have Billie Piper if you're never actually gonna use Rose? And the big time line changing thing they did didn't really affect anything aside from the latest Doctor
I do NOT understand the general fascination with Rose.
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Re: Doctor Who
« Reply #106 on: 16 Dec 2013, 04:39 »

She's the only companion the Doctor has ever admitted to loving.
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Re: Doctor Who
« Reply #107 on: 16 Dec 2013, 04:55 »

And she and a version of the doctor sailed off into the sunset.

I just never warmed to her I guess.
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« Reply #108 on: 16 Dec 2013, 04:57 »

She (the actress) is hot and went on to play a prostitute.

That unfortunately plays into that whole thing as well to some people.

On a more personal level I like Rose a lot more than, say, Martha, because she got the ball rolling again, Rose being the first person we focus on in rejuvenated Who. She's funny and brilliant, I love her accent and she was awesome as Bad Puppy Rose. She does the whole conscience of the doctor'-thing very well, especially in the first season as a companion to PTSD Doctor.
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« Reply #109 on: 16 Dec 2013, 05:06 »

I'm not really interested in getting into an internet discussion of levels of attractiveness of women, but Billie Piper is not my type.

I actually liked Martha more than Rose, because she was smart, opinionated, and chose to make a life for herself.

I do think we need another male companion.  In general, they've been more consistently good than the female companions.  Though not Mickey, obviously.
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« Reply #110 on: 16 Dec 2013, 05:10 »

Yeah, discussing attractiveness is not really a good discussion point. But it does matter for a large slice of the population. Tons of people didn't like Donna because she was old and stuff. Never mind that she was consistently fun and managed the dramatic bits very well, too.

Jack Harkness can sign up again at any time, as far as I'm concerned.
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« Reply #111 on: 16 Dec 2013, 05:47 »

I liked Mickey. I liked Mickey shitloads.

And I hated Donna because it was fucking Catherine Tate.

Seriously, I'm not sure Americans understand how much generally intelligent society loathes Catherine Tate. We're talking about an equivalent of 'The new companion for The Doctor is... Dane Cook!'
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« Reply #112 on: 16 Dec 2013, 05:53 »

Yeah, Catherine Tate and her shows are annoying. But Donna was pretty good, I thought.

Jesus, her shows are awful.
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« Reply #113 on: 16 Dec 2013, 05:55 »

I liked Mickey. I liked Mickey shitloads.
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Re: Doctor Who
« Reply #114 on: 16 Dec 2013, 06:07 »

While it might look like I pan the earlier episodes, since I'm dissing mickey and rose, I loved Jack, and I thnk Eccleston might me my favourite of the new doctors.

The best part about Donna was that she wasn't in love with the doctor.  That was so bloody overdue.
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« Reply #115 on: 16 Dec 2013, 06:15 »

I liked Donna more than Martha more than Rose. Rose was OK. I liked Donna  because she was a much better conscious and holy cow was it refreshing that she wasn't in love with the Doctor.
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Re: Doctor Who
« Reply #116 on: 16 Dec 2013, 06:42 »

I think that I liked Rose more for some reason, but the Doctor droning on about her for countless episodes after her leaving I could've done without.
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« Reply #117 on: 16 Dec 2013, 07:25 »

That was good, though. It showed that stuff matters. That change happens and it matters and that if you're almost eternal that it hurts.

I really didn't like Martha being in love with the doc, too. It felt a bit much, post-Rose.
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« Reply #118 on: 16 Dec 2013, 07:30 »

Seriously, I'm not sure Americans understand how much generally intelligent society loathes Catherine Tate. We're talking about an equivalent of 'The new companion for The Doctor is... Dane Cook!'

Gareth, you don't speak for me - and it may be arrogant but I consider myself to be part of generally intelligent society. I think Catherine Tate's comedy work is pretty funny and fairly insightful, and she's an excellent actress. I really liked Donna as well.
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Re: Doctor Who
« Reply #119 on: 16 Dec 2013, 07:58 »

I actually used Donna as an example of a "red-headed moment" once to a friend.
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« Reply #120 on: 16 Dec 2013, 08:05 »

... what is a red-headed moment?
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Re: Doctor Who
« Reply #121 on: 16 Dec 2013, 08:07 »

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I do NOT understand the general fascination with Rose.

I don't like Rose, her long run on the Doctor wore me out with her. I just thought it was odd that they brought back Billie Piper to play someone that was just using her image, especially when 11 knew Bad Wolf. For me Donna and Martha were way better than Rose
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« Reply #122 on: 16 Dec 2013, 08:16 »

Seriously, I'm not sure Americans understand how much generally intelligent society loathes Catherine Tate. We're talking about an equivalent of 'The new companion for The Doctor is... Dane Cook!'

Gareth, you don't speak for me - and it may be arrogant but I consider myself to be part of generally intelligent society. I think Catherine Tate's comedy work is pretty funny and fairly insightful, and she's an excellent actress. I really liked Donna as well.

Okay, I was obviously stereotyping, and I apologise for any offence - it was based on my own prejudices, namely that I've only ever met idiots that liked her, but you aren't an idiot, and you like her, so I withdraw what I said.
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« Reply #123 on: 16 Dec 2013, 09:11 »

One of the things I like about her is that she's funny without always being crude (I know she often is crude, but in those situations she's usually funny AND crude, rather than crude as a shortcut to humour). Did you see the Red Nose Day special with David Tennant, where the schoolgirl character starts reciting Shakespeare at Tennant's teacher character who has made an assumption based on a stereotype? I thought it was witty, incisive and hilarious. Obviously your mileage may vary but it strikes me as being more intellectual than a lot of comedy, which is normally based on upholding stereotypes rather than challenging them.
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« Reply #124 on: 16 Dec 2013, 09:36 »


It's worth repeating and there is that YouTube embedding thing so ...



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« Reply #125 on: 16 Dec 2013, 09:43 »

I am useless at finding stuff, I can't ever remember names or anything - so thank you for finding it for me!

I'm also a big fan of the French episode too.
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« Reply #126 on: 16 Dec 2013, 10:13 »

... what is a red-headed moment?

A momentary and intense display of irrationality, bad temper, insanity, or any combination thereof.
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« Reply #127 on: 16 Dec 2013, 10:27 »

Huh. Might that be upsetting to redheads?

French episode? The Girl in the Fireplace?
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« Reply #128 on: 16 Dec 2013, 10:28 »

And don't forget some of the best parts of Donna's run






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« Reply #129 on: 16 Dec 2013, 10:35 »

Huh. Might that be upsetting to redheads?

French episode? The Girl in the Fireplace?

I've known a few redheaded people and this seems to be fairly common. I imagine this is one of the reasons that gingers get so much "attention" from people in general. But I could be wrong.
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« Reply #130 on: 16 Dec 2013, 11:19 »

By French episode I meant of the Lauren Cooper stuff, not Doctor Who.

Blacksinow, replace the word "gingers" with "blacks" and you'll see why your statement is offensive. The colour of your hair (like the colour of your skin) doesn't have any bearing on your personality.
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« Reply #131 on: 16 Dec 2013, 11:32 »

Actually, I've heard that there are specific genes that are common with different haircolors. I've heard different things about genetics, so I wouldn't be shocked if there were common characteristics that did effect mood swings in red-haired people.
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« Reply #132 on: 16 Dec 2013, 11:40 »

I'm not all that interested in the category of things that surprise you.  If you're going to sling around characteristic traits that may be held by people who read here, or their friends or family, you'd better bring documented, scientific genetic proof or correlation.

In other words, you were told what you said is offensive, and rather than apologize you generalized.
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Re: Doctor Who
« Reply #133 on: 16 Dec 2013, 11:42 »

It isn't any different then a blonde moment.
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« Reply #134 on: 16 Dec 2013, 11:45 »

No, you're right, that is another phrase which makes an offensive generalisation about people based on their physical appearance.

You've been on this forum for long enough to have realised by now that offensive generalisations are against the rules; equally, it's advisable not to make statements based on science you don't understand.
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« Reply #135 on: 16 Dec 2013, 11:52 »

No, you're right, that is another phrase which makes an offensive generalisation about people based on their physical appearance.

You've been on this forum for long enough to have realised by now that offensive generalisations are against the rules; equally, it's advisable not to make statements based on science you don't understand.

How is it any different then people saying they were born gay?
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« Reply #136 on: 16 Dec 2013, 11:53 »

... I honestly have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.
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« Reply #137 on: 16 Dec 2013, 11:55 »

You've NEVER heard someone mention that they were born gay? You watch television don't you?
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« Reply #138 on: 16 Dec 2013, 11:57 »

Of course I've heard people say that. I just haven't got a clue why you think it's relevant to the fact that saying that red-headed people are irrational, bad tempered, or insane is offensive.
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« Reply #139 on: 16 Dec 2013, 11:57 »

No, you're right, that is another phrase which makes an offensive generalisation about people based on their physical appearance.

You've been on this forum for long enough to have realised by now that offensive generalisations are against the rules; equally, it's advisable not to make statements based on science you don't understand.

How is it any different then people saying they were born gay?

Told being offensive twice, argued without apology.

This is going well, isn't it?
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« Reply #140 on: 16 Dec 2013, 12:00 »

Ofcourse I won't apologize. The whole argument is stupid and petty. I don't throw a fit everytime someone makes a generalization about the visually impaired.
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« Reply #141 on: 16 Dec 2013, 12:02 »

Whether or not you do, this forum has rules and you keep breaking them.
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« Reply #142 on: 16 Dec 2013, 12:13 »

Scienfically, there is evidence to support the idea that your personality CAN be effected by genetics. You are having a redheaded moment, that's all.
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« Reply #143 on: 16 Dec 2013, 12:18 »

Where is this evidence? I haven't come across - please cite your sources so that we can all read it.
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« Reply #144 on: 16 Dec 2013, 12:26 »

You are having a redheaded moment, that's all.

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« Reply #145 on: 16 Dec 2013, 12:30 »

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« Reply #146 on: 16 Dec 2013, 13:06 »

Ofcourse I won't apologize. The whole argument is stupid and petty. I don't throw a fit everytime someone makes a generalization about the visually impaired.

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« Reply #147 on: 16 Dec 2013, 13:27 »

Some people just want to watch the world burn.
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« Reply #148 on: 16 Dec 2013, 13:33 »

Some people just want to watch the world burn.

Some people do it without a choice, unless presented with an oddly brilliant choice from his/her future selves that coincidentally also leads to saving millions of lives in the present  :-D
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« Reply #149 on: 16 Dec 2013, 13:37 »

Stand back people, we just landed back on topic!
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