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Re: Doctor Who
« Reply #51 on: 03 Dec 2013, 06:08 »

Oh dear, I believe I'm #8...
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« Reply #52 on: 03 Dec 2013, 07:38 »

I'm a few of those (#8 amongs them) and...wait, there are people who exist who don't like Martha Jones? :psyduck:
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Re: Doctor Who
« Reply #53 on: 03 Dec 2013, 08:14 »

I'm a few of those (#8 amongs them) and...wait, there are people who exist who don't like Martha Jones? :psyduck:

They are called Rose Tyler lovers, irrational people who can't see past her being the replacement to give Martha a legitimate reason for not being a good companion
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« Reply #54 on: 03 Dec 2013, 09:24 »

I'm a few of those (#8 amongs them) and...wait, there are people who exist who don't like Martha Jones? :psyduck:
I thought she was a bit meh, actually.
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Re: Doctor Who
« Reply #55 on: 03 Dec 2013, 10:26 »

Are you sure you aren't thinking of Donna?
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Re: Doctor Who
« Reply #56 on: 03 Dec 2013, 10:30 »

Scarf?  Check.
Umbrella?  Check.
Vegetable?  Check.
Sweater vest?  Check.

yeah. I'm a Number 1.
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Re: Doctor Who
« Reply #57 on: 03 Dec 2013, 10:32 »

I'm numbers 3, 8, 9 and I guess sometimes 10 and 11. (11 only in the sense that I would love to hear the Doctor say "fuckwad", I know nothing of Capaldi's other work)
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Re: Doctor Who
« Reply #58 on: 03 Dec 2013, 10:42 »

I know he makes an appearance in the movie 'World War Z'.
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« Reply #59 on: 03 Dec 2013, 19:50 »

I guess I'm a combination of 1 and 10, mostly.

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« Reply #60 on: 03 Dec 2013, 23:56 »

Are you sure you aren't thinking of Donna?
Completely sure. After Rose and before Donna, Martha feels ... superfluous.
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Re: Doctor Who
« Reply #61 on: 04 Dec 2013, 00:00 »

wish there were events like that here in the USA.

for a fictional character...

that. is. so. Emotional.

PBS used to have them with "Evening at the Pops" but they stopped making that show...now the best you can get is "Kennedy Center Honors" but it's not the same.
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« Reply #62 on: 04 Dec 2013, 01:21 »

I'm a few of those (#8 amongs them) and...wait, there are people who exist who don't like Martha Jones? :psyduck:

They are called Rose Tyler lovers, irrational people who can't see past her being the replacement to give Martha a legitimate reason for not being a good companion

They can also be called Gareth and just think she was bland, boring, pointless and a med student who never did any medicine to anyone ever.

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« Reply #63 on: 04 Dec 2013, 01:30 »

Martha was fucking great. To me she seemed to have been the only new Companion who really did some things on her own. She acted on her feelings for the doctor, she walked the earth for a full year, telling everybody about him, during the Utopia arc, and I still consider her to be my favourite Doctor Who companion.

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« Reply #64 on: 04 Dec 2013, 02:07 »

I would like Martha a hell of a lot more if she had not had 'med student' as one of her definable characteristics.

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Re: Doctor Who
« Reply #65 on: 04 Dec 2013, 06:45 »

Chekhov's gun?
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« Reply #66 on: 04 Dec 2013, 06:47 »

Chekov's gun.

Martha was just bland. Also, the whole, 'Martha falls in love with the doctor' felt like a repeat performance. It was making me look forward to Martha on Dalig Ulf stranden.
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« Reply #68 on: 04 Dec 2013, 15:15 »

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« Reply #69 on: 04 Dec 2013, 21:14 »

Does it shoot nuclear wessels?
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« Reply #70 on: 10 Dec 2013, 09:35 »

I would like Martha a hell of a lot more if she had not had 'med student' as one of her definable characteristics.

It's like wossisname's rifle. You don't show the rifle and then not use it.

Yeah, just like ClassicWho companion Mel was supposed to be a computer programmer.  Well, that should be a useful skill for a companion, but they never showed her doing anything with computers, so what was the point.  At least we occasionally got to see Rory do nurse-like stuff.

Of course, some companions haven't had any obviously useful skills.  Take Tegan--she was a stewardess.  What good is that--it's not like the Doctor is going to have her make in-flight announcements aboard the Tardis.  (Though it would have been funny if he'd kept her busy bringing him and the other companions tea and coffee.)
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« Reply #71 on: 10 Dec 2013, 12:41 »

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« Reply #72 on: 10 Dec 2013, 17:18 »

Yeah, just like ClassicWho companion Mel was supposed to be a computer programmer.  Well, that should be a useful skill for a companion, but they never showed her doing anything with computers, so what was the point.  At least we occasionally got to see Rory do nurse-like stuff.

Of course, some companions haven't had any obviously useful skills.  Take Tegan--she was a stewardess.  What good is that--it's not like the Doctor is going to have her make in-flight announcements aboard the Tardis.  (Though it would have been funny if he'd kept her busy bringing him and the other companions tea and coffee.)

Remember the episodes that she was in from Series 3: exactly how many of them outside of the first had situations where she as a doctor would have been needed? Not many if any. She appeared in a medical capacity during the next series and in Torchwood, so the whole "the doctor who didn't practice medicine" thing is pure garbage because she did.

And the Mel thing was probably due to needing a backstory for Mel, since she was smart and had a great memory that probably seemed like a good fit at the time. It's no different than what they did with Dodo in the 60s, but unlike Dodo it wasn't a total change for the character.
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« Reply #73 on: 10 Dec 2013, 17:33 »

I still don't see why her being a doctor should have been a major part of her character.
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« Reply #74 on: 11 Dec 2013, 01:25 »

Was it? It always seemed to me that a major part of her character was that she was travelling with the doctor, despite having a career she loved. It'd be a bit odd if we didn't know what someone's previous life had involved at all.
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« Reply #75 on: 11 Dec 2013, 05:06 »

Remember the episodes that she was in from Series 3: exactly how many of them outside of the first had situations where she as a doctor would have been needed?

Which, again, makes the character trait pointless.

She appeared in a medical capacity during the next series and in Torchwood, so the whole "the doctor who didn't practice medicine" thing is pure garbage because she did.

Torchwood is a different series even if it's set in the same universe, that doesn't just give them a pass. Mork from Happy Days was a real character rather than a dream sequence in Mork and Mindy, that doesn't make him a well-written character in Happy Days.
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« Reply #76 on: 11 Dec 2013, 07:29 »

Being a doctor was simply a vehicle for explaining her presence in the hospital when they first met. If she'd been a patient she wouldn't have been able to go travelling; if she'd been a relative/friend she'd probably not have felt free to go travelling.
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« Reply #77 on: 11 Dec 2013, 07:35 »

All of this only makes sense if you consider the circumstances set in stone*. The Doctor could've met a relative of hers too and the relative could've been all 'yeah sure go with The Doctor it's an amazing adventure!'

*edit: rather than this being a show that someone wrote.
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Re: Doctor Who
« Reply #78 on: 12 Dec 2013, 04:05 »

I "like" the idea of the show, but I also feel that it is a tad bit over rated. My favorite episodes had more to do with traveling to other worlds, then merely time travelling. Which is why Gridlock is perhaps my most favorite. Not to say it isn't a good series, but I think alot of people give it too much hype.
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« Reply #79 on: 13 Dec 2013, 06:43 »

I think even the staunchest proponents of the show will concede there are some pretty bad episodes, and that the show spends some time in the cheesy SF realm.
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« Reply #80 on: 13 Dec 2013, 12:29 »

This is true of pretty much any long-running sci-fi show. Star Trek had Spock's Brain, ST:V, and Into Darkness.
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« Reply #81 on: 13 Dec 2013, 17:05 »

Well, time travel just seems to be overdone. I think that was the one thing that I actually liked about the next generation, there was always something new going on. Not like, thirty billion dalek or cybermen episodes, or borg and romulan in the case of star trek.
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« Reply #82 on: 13 Dec 2013, 19:02 »

You do have to wonder what's gonna happen with the Borg in the Abrams ST universe...
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« Reply #83 on: 13 Dec 2013, 21:59 »

i figure we're gonna see them sometime around movie 5; just as soon as all the iconography's been milked out of the original series.
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« Reply #84 on: 14 Dec 2013, 00:04 »

I LIKED the Abrams star trek, it was unique and different enough to NOT be the star trek that we grew up with. Besides, Kirk never encountered the Borg, it was Jean Luc Picard who encountered the borg thanks to Q.
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« Reply #85 on: 14 Dec 2013, 04:23 »

I think even the staunchest proponents of the show will concede there are some pretty bad episodes, and that the show spends some time in the cheesy SF realm.
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« Reply #86 on: 14 Dec 2013, 04:29 »

I rather liked that episode. It was different to usual, certainly, but there were good reasons for that, and it is nice to have a bit of a change sometimes. You can get bored of running and yelling and emoting.
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« Reply #87 on: 14 Dec 2013, 04:35 »

One of the main characters ends up as a pavement tile.
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« Reply #88 on: 14 Dec 2013, 04:57 »

The monster was designed by an 11 year old, what were you expecting?
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« Reply #89 on: 14 Dec 2013, 05:39 »

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« Reply #90 on: 14 Dec 2013, 07:08 »

And then they make a sex joke about it


Finally watched the Day of the Doctor, and yeah it was kind of dissappointing
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« Reply #91 on: 14 Dec 2013, 08:04 »

I hated that episode about as much as I hate the episode with the little girl and the crayons.
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« Reply #92 on: 14 Dec 2013, 13:29 »

You guys care to elaborate on why that is?
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« Reply #93 on: 14 Dec 2013, 15:36 »

The episode may have stunk but it did lead to the next year's episode that featured The Weeping Angels.
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« Reply #94 on: 14 Dec 2013, 20:23 »

You guys care to elaborate on why that is?

Honestly? It sounds like something that Mike Meyers would put his name on. The episode with the kid and crayons, I don't like child antagonists of any kind. They bore me to no end.
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« Reply #95 on: 14 Dec 2013, 23:52 »

And that still was better than love and monsters. I object to the whole 'girl as pavement stone' thing, mainly because I think it's an un-doctorly thing to do. The doctor makes the hard decisions. He would have realized that her life would be terrible and would have let her go. But here he did not think at all and took the cowardly way out and it ends up terrible. Also; there's very little doctor in the episode (once in a while they do a doctor-light show to give him a break in the taping schedule (Blink was another)) and the characters that are in there are terrible. And the monster is terrible.
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« Reply #96 on: 15 Dec 2013, 08:26 »

It's not so much to give him a break, it was that they were filming two episodes at the same time. Which I think is a daft thing to do, but still. I feel it's unfair to criticise a show which unashamedly targets children as part of its audience for having children as the main characters.
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« Reply #97 on: 15 Dec 2013, 09:09 »

I thought that episode was okay. Nothing spectacular but nothing wrong either.
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« Reply #98 on: 15 Dec 2013, 10:10 »

Actually I wanted to know what the issue was with Day of the Doctor...
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« Reply #99 on: 15 Dec 2013, 10:19 »

Nothing. There's nothing wrong with it.

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