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Re: Alignments for Characters
« Reply #50 on: 22 Jun 2014, 07:38 »

That one was a pain lol.

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Re: Alignments for Characters
« Reply #51 on: 22 Jun 2014, 12:02 »

Hmm. I'm Lawful Neutral? Really?


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Re: Alignments for Characters
« Reply #52 on: 22 Jun 2014, 12:18 »

Where's the "Neither" option on number 51?

So not answering numbers 111 or 114. The NSA might be watching.  :psyduck:

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Re: Alignments for Characters
« Reply #53 on: 23 Jun 2014, 11:24 »

Maybe they were lagers.
Don't you mean Alementals?  :parrot:
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Re: Alignments for Characters
« Reply #54 on: 24 Jun 2014, 03:42 »

Chaotic Good this time. But I do appreciate the raw power of the sorcerer.

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The questions on religion were a bit dubious, though. What if you are atheistic?
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Re: Alignments for Characters
« Reply #55 on: 24 Jun 2014, 03:48 »

In the D&D universe, atheism is about as defensible as scientology is in our universe.
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Re: Alignments for Characters
« Reply #56 on: 24 Jun 2014, 03:53 »

Akin to being a crazy, unsociable outcast, I suppose.

How does that differ from my regular self, then?  :-P
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Re: Alignments for Characters
« Reply #57 on: 24 Jun 2014, 05:57 »

Major difference is that if you manage to get the attention of one They WILL Smite you and make a believer [Beleiber?] out of you... or an Ogres loincloth depending on the deity in question and just how you managed to get their attention.  :psyduck:
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Re: Alignments for Characters
« Reply #58 on: 24 Jun 2014, 12:05 »

In the D&D universe, atheism is about as defensible as scientology is in our universe.

Not really.  Note the Athar faction in the 2nd ed Planescape setting.  Though they recognised the Powers as insanely powerful beings who could grant abilities to their followers, they denied that they were actual *gods* for the simple reason that they actually could be slain (there are the corpses of dead powers all over the Astral plane to prove it), and weren't god-like enough to actually deserve worship.
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Re: Alignments for Characters
« Reply #59 on: 24 Jun 2014, 13:58 »

Maybe they were lagers.
Don't you mean Alementals?  :parrot:
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Um...  You might not want to do that with me.  As an GM, I can be absolutely evil.  I've had (in a Vampire game running the Sabbat sub-plot) a PC who used flesh and bone crafting to turn a fully-concious werewolf into an ashtray, but then made a deal with a demon…  Well, what happened to her is best described Vlad the impaler with shadow tentacles, at least until the sun came up, and the 7th-gen Lasombra she pissed-off stepped into the shadows and teleported to sleep nicely. 

As a PC, I have also, between power-gaming and pulling crazed ideas out of my arse, derailed campaigns on multiple occasions, between things like winning fights that the PCs were supposed to lose (in one case, the GM could have gotten *most* of what he wanted, but don't demand to take a flesh sample from a vain character), to seducing the Big Bad (he had a rather large magical library, and no, that's not a euphemism).

My only advice is to expect players to fuck with any adventure you have planned in any way possible.  You have to be aware of *all* of their abilities and skills, and know that they'll use them in the most unexpected ways.  There always needs to be not only a contingency plan to counter their actions, but alternatives if they decide to take the whole thing off the rails, which they invariably will do.  Plus, I tend to go for dark campaigns rather than the silly.  If confronted with an alemental, I'd just tell the dwarf to drink it.

Edit:  I'd also min-max all of my bad guys.  That way, they may be über-powerful, but there's always that weak spot for the players to discover.  It'll frustrate them to hell until they find it out.
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Re: Alignments for Characters
« Reply #60 on: 24 Jun 2014, 16:22 »

Wouldn't you check Pintsize's alignment by putting him on the rack and adjusting a couple nuts?
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Re: Alignments for Characters
« Reply #61 on: 24 Jun 2014, 17:04 »

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Alignment:Lawful Good A lawful good character acts as a good person is expected or required to act. He combines a commitment to oppose evil with the discipline to fight relentlessly. He tells the truth, keeps his word, helps those in need, and speaks out against injustice. A lawful good character hates to see the guilty go unpunished. Lawful good is the best alignment you can be because it combines honor and compassion. However, lawful good can be a dangerous alignment when it restricts freedom and criminalizes self-interest.

Race:Humans are the most adaptable of the common races. Short generations and a penchant for migration and conquest have made them physically diverse as well. Humans are often unorthodox in their dress, sporting unusual hairstyles, fanciful clothes, tattoos, and the like.

Class:Clerics act as intermediaries between the earthly and the divine (or infernal) worlds. A good cleric helps those in need, while an evil cleric seeks to spread his patron's vision of evil across the world. All clerics can heal wounds and bring people back from the brink of death, and powerful clerics can even raise the dead. Likewise, all clerics have authority over undead creatures, and they can turn away or even destroy these creatures. Clerics are trained in the use of simple weapons, and can use all forms of armor and shields without penalty, since armor does not interfere with the casting of divine spells. In addition to his normal complement of spells, every cleric chooses to focus on two of his deity's domains. These domains grants the cleric special powers, and give him access to spells that he might otherwise never learn. A cleric's Wisdom score should be high, since this determines the maximum spell level that he can cast.
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Re: Alignments for Characters
« Reply #62 on: 25 Jun 2014, 01:33 »

I DM'd a game once. Whenever someone made a search roll and failed it, I'd say "You don't see it."
Even if nothing was there.

I also played a game where one of the PCs was a cave bear who had such high Charisma, Speechcraft and Bluff, he'd fooled everyone he met into thinking he was a human.
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Re: Alignments for Characters
« Reply #63 on: 25 Jun 2014, 01:51 »

I know that story…

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Re: Alignments for Characters
« Reply #64 on: 25 Jun 2014, 06:45 »

I DM'd a game once. Whenever someone made a search roll and failed it, I'd say "You don't see it."
Even if nothing was there.
Not to mention rolling dice for no reason.  Another fun one is to pass a note to a player that says "write something down and pass this back".

Edit: Fixing quotation and also just pointing out that *anything* to increase player paranoia, like asking for random saving throws even when nothing is happening helps heighten tension and drama. 
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Re: Alignments for Characters
« Reply #65 on: 25 Jun 2014, 08:25 »

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Huh - and there I was thinking my friend was a genius. He does go on 4chan a lot; he probably stole the idea from there.
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Re: Alignments for Characters
« Reply #66 on: 25 Jun 2014, 09:09 »

The bear thing might be like the whole gazebo thing.  Once it's been done once, it'll be repeated.  One of the things that I *don't* like about 3.x (although they did fix a lot of things) is that there are actually difficulty checks for things like bluff to convince the entire royal court, including the guards that the king is an imposter.  In any game *I* ran, a bear wouldn't have a chance unless it had shapeshifting abilities or was an illusionist.  There needs to be a common-sense rule for stuff like that.

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Re: Alignments for Characters
« Reply #67 on: 04 Aug 2014, 07:32 »

I hope it's not in bad form to bump a thread last responded to over a month ago.

I was really excited to find a thread about alingments (indeed, discoursing alingment can be thrown into just about anything and often yields lengthy conversations) but similarly to Thrudd's point of it being kind of a terrible system (I politely disagree) I do feel like it's a bit inappropriate for something like QC, where everyone is essentially good or neutral. I think, given the nature of most of the comic (discussing feelings/relationships) something a bit more appropriate would be poles of something like:
 1) overall openness and sincerity about feelings (which would also consider propensity to lying, etc)
 2) sexual promiscuity (you'd have to, of course, consider concepts like exclusivity, etc.) but I could see this latter one getting a bit vicious or at the very least disputed so it's probably a terrible idea. "On a scale of Hanners to Sven..."

I mean, the D&D concept is heavily reliant on quests, thefts, kills, etc. and you simply don't see that in QC. It's a pretty peaceful (albeit somewhat emotionally tumultuous) comic.

Addenendum: Really liked the idea of VespaVenger thinking she's CG while actually LE, but I think it's a bit warped: she likely thinks she's a crusader of good, but likely assumes herself to be sane. I feel like someone who is CG doesn't explicitly know they're a bit off kilter. For it to function properly, there's an element of self-deception, I think.
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Re: Alignments for Characters
« Reply #68 on: 04 Aug 2014, 09:39 »

Yeah theres an online test for that http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/dnd/20001222b

I'm neutral good. Hu ! I was lawful good in the past.

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Re: Alignments for Characters
« Reply #69 on: 05 Aug 2014, 06:09 »

Ah, obviously you're a wild mage then.

Do they still have wild magic in D&D? It's been over a decade for me, so I'm not up on what's current.
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Re: Alignments for Characters
« Reply #70 on: 05 Aug 2014, 08:07 »

Apparently I'm true neutral. I took this test (http://www.pa.msu.edu/~aaronson/alitest/aintro.html) because the link for the other one didn't work for me.
When I ran my campaign a few years ago (moved away. Still sad about losing the group) I always created very detailed backgrounds/life stories for my villains. Not a single one was chaotic evil, because the alignment seemed pointless to me. I'd rather my characters had a reason for what they did, so I preferred villains who were lawful evil or neutral evil.
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« Reply #71 on: 06 Aug 2014, 11:41 »

Do they still have wild magic in D&D? It's been over a decade for me, so I'm not up on what's current.

No, they took all the fun stuff out, gagged Ed Greenwood and pretty much blew up the Forgotten Realms.

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Re: Alignments for Characters
« Reply #72 on: 06 Aug 2014, 16:33 »

Haven't played D&D since it was AD&D, but even then it was often "roll play".
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« Reply #73 on: 06 Aug 2014, 21:35 »

Haven't played D&D since it was AD&D, but even then it was often "roll play".
Aye, it can be like that.  In one of my old groups, one player actually had a binder full of rulings, by date (although, knowing him, it was probably cross-indexed), which he'd try to use as Common-Law-style precedents every time he tried something insane.  Sometimes, his rules-lawyering lasted for over an hour.  I mean, fuck, I was a power-gamer, but the worst I'd usually do is buy the DM coffee, or pizza or something, and gently mention some ruling on a matter I liked when I could tell he was in an amicable mood.  Jeez, why spend so much time arguing the law when you can just bribe the judge?
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Re: Alignments for Characters
« Reply #74 on: 07 Aug 2014, 03:25 »

Marten - neutral good
Pintsize - chaotic evil
Faye - chaotic evil
Dora - true neutral
Hanners - lawful evil
Winslow - lawful evil
Sven - chaotic evil
Marigold - neutral evil
Angus - neutral good
Tai - lawful good
Steve - neutral evil
Veronica - true neutral
Henry - neutral evil
Raven - lawful good
Amir - true neutral
Penelope - lawful good
Wil - chaotic good
Jim - true neutral
Samantha - chaotic neutral
Clinton - true neutral
Dale - neutral good
John [Hannerdad] - lawful good
Beatrice [Hannermom] - chaotic evil
Cosette - neutral good
Padma - lawful good
Claire - true neutral
Emily - true neutral
Sara - true dead
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Re: Alignments for Characters
« Reply #75 on: 07 Aug 2014, 06:37 »

Most of those I agree with, but Hanners LE? Marigold NE? Care to explain?
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« Reply #76 on: 07 Aug 2014, 10:42 »

Obviously, it was Evil Hanners (tm) that he was talking about.
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