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Re: miscellaneous musings
« Reply #1150 on: 02 Feb 2015, 14:08 »

PETA should throw paint on leather-wearing bikers as well as little old ladies wearing fur coats
Hostility to fur coats but not leather jackets, like hostility to fox-hunting but not angling, is more about class warfare, I think, than animal welfare.

That, and no one is dumb enough to throw paint on the Hell's Angels. 

My girlfriend is a pescetarian and only eats animals she thinks she could kill with her bare hands in an 'in the wild' type situation. I kinda like that attitude.

Does it have to be bare hands?  I know how to make a proper spear without access to tools.

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Re: miscellaneous musings
« Reply #1151 on: 02 Feb 2015, 14:17 »

PETA are a bunch of smug, self-serving assholes.

That is all.
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« Reply #1152 on: 02 Feb 2015, 14:26 »

Does it have to be bare hands?  I know how to make a proper spear without access to tools.

I can punch a dolphin in the mouth.



And PETA can eat a dick. I swear they harm the cause of animal rights more than they help.
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Re: miscellaneous musings
« Reply #1153 on: 02 Feb 2015, 14:38 »

, I just refuse to eat veal, certain seafoods, animals with a threatened or close to threatened status, apex predators or domestic animals.
Veal is god damn delicious, but I get not eating it. Why not apex predators*, though? I'd feel less bad about eating a predator than anything else, as long as it wasn't endangered.

*Besides Randy Orton, of course
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« Reply #1154 on: 02 Feb 2015, 14:48 »

I'd eat Randy Orton, hurr durr.

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« Reply #1155 on: 02 Feb 2015, 14:59 »

Usually because they keep populations of animals in check. Apex predators, regardless of endangerment are often protected because of their integral role in the ecosystem.

I'll paraphrase an Aldo Leopold story for this in his short story "Thinking Like a Mountain" from his collection of short stories from The Land Ethic. (I could be slightly wrong in my recalling of this story, if so I apologize, but the moral is still the same) EDIT - Just took the summary from someone else who wrote it pretty well.

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Leopold's conviction towards the wolf was changed forever on the day in his youth when he saw a wolf die. Aldo Leopold and a friend of his opened up on the wolves, never wanting to pass up a chance to kill a wolf in those days. When their rifles were empty, the old wolf was down. They reached the old wolf in time to watch "that fierce green fire dying in her eyes. I realized then," wrote Leopold, "and have known ever since -- that there was something new to me in those eyes -- something known only to her and the mountain." He saw the green fire in the wolf's eyes die, and since then he recognized his brutal error.

Leopold wrote that since that day, he has seen the wolves driven to the brink of extinction and the wolfless mountains defoliated by the exploding deer herds. And he suspected, just as the deer herd lived in mortal fear of its wolves, so does the mountain live in mortal fear of its deer. And perhaps with better cause, for while the buck pulled down by wolves can be replaced in two or three years, a deer's range pulled down by too many deer, may never be replaced. In essence: The wilderness we hunt is the salvation of the world, to paraphrase Thoreau. It must not be destroyed.

Perhaps this is the hidden meaning in the howl of the wolf, long known by the mountain, but seldom understood by men. Just as Leopold came to realize, so must we: that wildlife populations are a part of a bigger picture, and that no matter what new game laws are passed, wildlife populations will not improve until the carrying capacity of the land that supports them improves.

In his last paragraph, Leopold reels the reader in. To paraphrase: In our lives, we all think about that which will better ourselves and secure ourselves, but those who look for a little temporary safety instead of wildlife understanding deserve neither. We should look to help secure the blessings of wildlife before we secure the blessings of ourselves because "in wildness is the salvation of the world."

TL;DR, carrying capacity of populations that apex predators limit will be exceeded when Apex predators are removed, ultimately leading to the destruction of both the land and the animal populations.
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Re: miscellaneous musings
« Reply #1156 on: 02 Feb 2015, 16:21 »

Do alligators count as an apex predator?  Because they've made the evolutionary blunder of being delicious.

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« Reply #1157 on: 02 Feb 2015, 16:48 »

That depends.  If one lives in Florida, the pythons might have something to say, or rather hiss about that.
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« Reply #1158 on: 02 Feb 2015, 20:57 »

Python is yummy with sufficient Cajun seasoning.  :D
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« Reply #1159 on: 02 Feb 2015, 21:04 »

Actually, python needs "C" salt.
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« Reply #1160 on: 02 Feb 2015, 22:20 »

I actually wouldn't really worry too much about those two. Wolves, bears, large sharks, large cats (any feline really, but I think most of that has to do with many of them being endangered); stuff like that. Though I don't much about species specific things when it comes to gators and snakes. I am fairly positive killing and eating those things is fine (environmentally anyway), but I could be wrong.
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« Reply #1161 on: 03 Feb 2015, 07:17 »

I actually wouldn't really worry too much about those two. Wolves, bears, large sharks, large cats (any feline really, but I think most of that has to do with many of them being endangered); stuff like that.
Except for house cats, they are contributing a fair amount to the extinction of species themselves.  :laugh:
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« Reply #1162 on: 03 Feb 2015, 19:19 »

Apparently Harper Lee isn't only alive, but To Kill a Mockingbird itself was a prequel to a book that's getting released 60 years after it was written.
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« Reply #1163 on: 03 Feb 2015, 23:33 »

I actually wouldn't really worry too much about those two. Wolves, bears, large sharks, large cats (any feline really, but I think most of that has to do with many of them being endangered); stuff like that.
Except for house cats, they are contributing a fair amount to the extinction of species themselves.  :laugh:
But they're so cute when they kill things.
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« Reply #1164 on: 03 Feb 2015, 23:59 »

Actually, python needs "C" salt.

No, a salt should be random and unique, not a fixed single character.
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« Reply #1165 on: 04 Feb 2015, 03:57 »

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« Reply #1166 on: 04 Feb 2015, 12:47 »

I didn't quite understand what they were doing, but I didn't like it.
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« Reply #1167 on: 05 Feb 2015, 07:44 »

Had an idea this morning for a car movie set on the streets of Boston during a snowstorm. It's called Slow and Furious.
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« Reply #1168 on: 05 Feb 2015, 08:33 »

Brilliant. You can franchise the shit out of that. I nominate the second movie as Hudson Valley Weather: 2 Feet 2 Many.
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« Reply #1169 on: 05 Feb 2015, 08:38 »

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« Reply #1170 on: 05 Feb 2015, 18:16 »

Had an idea this morning for a car movie set on the streets of Boston during a snowstorm. It's called Slow and Furious.

Boston? Slow and Furious applies to a nice sunny day there too.
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« Reply #1171 on: 05 Feb 2015, 18:20 »

I just know that whenever I go to Massachusetts I get cut off more in that day than in the previous months leading up to it.
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« Reply #1172 on: 05 Feb 2015, 19:02 »

Oh Boston. Any city in Europe looks that way.

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« Reply #1173 on: 06 Feb 2015, 20:50 »



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« Reply #1174 on: 06 Feb 2015, 21:01 »

Actually, that Boston pic looks a lot like some of the Road/Street layouts here where I am.
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« Reply #1175 on: 07 Feb 2015, 08:17 »

As I've posted elsewhere: Boston's streets actually make sense if you take into account the geographical history of the Shawmut Peninsula. Basically the streets were laid out to avoid geographic obstacles that are no longer there.
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« Reply #1176 on: 07 Feb 2015, 14:02 »

The interesting thing about the Hutt Valley where I reside is that for decades it was actually Farmland, mostly Market Gardens and a lot run by Chinese families.  It was the Postwar Population Boom that saw the slow Urbanisation of the Hutt Valley to what it is today.
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« Reply #1177 on: 08 Feb 2015, 00:36 »

Pizza the Hutt country.
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« Reply #1178 on: 08 Feb 2015, 11:15 »

Careful, or we'll send out for you.  :D ;)
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« Reply #1179 on: 08 Feb 2015, 20:27 »

I was thinking Jabba, myself. 
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« Reply #1180 on: 09 Feb 2015, 05:40 »

Or Ziro. Somebody at LucasFilm must have been smoking some really good shit when they dreamed up Ziro the Hutt.

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« Reply #1181 on: 10 Feb 2015, 09:23 »

I just realised depending on the length of my post, my avatar points at the Doge in my signature.

... Think it's time for a change.

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« Reply #1182 on: 10 Feb 2015, 09:48 »

Boston? Slow and Furious applies to a nice sunny day there too.
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I know my way around Manhattan after visiting there for a combined total of around two months. I lived in Boston for two years growing up and fuck if I could give you directions on how to get across the street.
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« Reply #1183 on: 10 Feb 2015, 10:03 »

Given that the subway is shut down today and the buses are running on a reduced schedule, we are now in the sequel: A Slow Day to Die Furious.
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« Reply #1184 on: 10 Feb 2015, 14:51 »

I just realised depending on the length of my post, my avatar points at the Doge in my signature.

... Think it's time for a change.

If you plan on still being the pointer outer of dicks, it's quite possible that it'll keep happening. Unless you get a dick pointer that points upwards or left.
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« Reply #1185 on: 10 Feb 2015, 15:57 »

I just realised depending on the length of my post, my avatar points at the Doge in my signature.

... Think it's time for a change.

If you plan on still being the pointer outer of dicks, it's quite possible that it'll keep happening. Unless you get a dick pointer that points upwards or left.

Aw, don't bring politics into this...


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« Reply #1186 on: 10 Feb 2015, 16:54 »

Random Thought: Michael Mando plays my favorite character in Orphan Black. And Far Cry 3

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« Reply #1187 on: 10 Feb 2015, 17:45 »

...and just noticed that he is also in Better Call Saul! Now I'm excited!

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« Reply #1188 on: 10 Feb 2015, 18:16 »

I just realised depending on the length of my post, my avatar points at the Doge in my signature.

... Think it's time for a change.

You could replace the doge with Richard Nixon.

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« Reply #1189 on: 10 Feb 2015, 18:39 »

...and just noticed that he is also in Better Call Saul! Now I'm excited!

My daughter and I have a mutual hobby of spotting bit actors in various movies and TV shows.  We're alweays going, "Wasn't that the person who played..."

But it goes way back...

When my wife and I were honeymooning in NYC, we saw an off-Broadway show called The Foreigner, by Larry Shue.  It happened to be the last performance of the original run, and the title character was played by a gentleman whose name completely eluded me.  But I never forget a face! 

A few years later, I saw that face again in a Matthew Broderick movie (no idea which one).  He actually had no speaking lines, just provided several reaction faces in a couple of scenes. 

Then, about 12 years later, we saw our first (and only) Broadway show, with the kids, Beauty and the Beast. 

I wasn't sure I believed my eyes when Cogsworth made his appearance... it was him.  Again. 

Ah, found him.  It took a while to track him down.  The internet's a wonderful tool, isn't it? 


Well, that's my miscellaneous musing for the day! 
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« Reply #1190 on: 10 Feb 2015, 19:10 »

A friend of mine is really good at spotting voices of dubbing actors. She'll go "Oh, that's the guy who voiced 'obscure character' in 'that one episode of House'" Myself, I never quite got the hang of it.

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« Reply #1191 on: 10 Feb 2015, 19:18 »

I remember when I saw The Imitation Game, I knew I recognized the guy who played one of the non-Turing codebreakers, but wasn't sure how. Twenty minutes or so later, I realized he was Adrian Veidt in Watchmen and that it was his voice that is how I recognized him.
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« Reply #1192 on: 10 Feb 2015, 19:24 »

When I saw Megamind with a few friends we struggled to place the voice actor for one of the characters. It wasn't till the credits came up we all exclaimed at the same time, "Jonah Hill!!" So now any time we struggle to recognise an actor or voice we say they're Jonah Hill till proven otherwise.

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« Reply #1193 on: 10 Feb 2015, 19:41 »

In trivial pursuit, the random answer "Peter Lorre" worked once for a friend from college. 

It became his default when he had no idea of what the answer was. 

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The actor who plays "DuLaque" in The Librarians used to be Max Headroom.  He was also the father (Frank?) in a Dawn of the Dead, gets bitten and killed when he changes. 

Do we need a separate thread for this game? 
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« Reply #1194 on: 11 Feb 2015, 01:31 »

When I saw Megamind with a few friends we struggled to place the voice actor for one of the characters. It wasn't till the credits came up we all exclaimed at the same time, "Jonah Hill!!" So now any time we struggle to recognise an actor or voice we say they're Jonah Hill till proven otherwise.

Love this because it's the kind of joke I make.
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« Reply #1195 on: 11 Feb 2015, 02:22 »

My sis and I have a hobby of commentating the characters on films based on what the actors made on other films. Like when Clive Owen starts fighting Statham and we're like "the point is that Statham isn't a giant stuffed bunny" (referencing Shoot 'em Up), or regarding The Sixth Sense as impossible because if there's something to learn from Die Hard is that you can't kill Bruce Willis.
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« Reply #1196 on: 11 Feb 2015, 06:26 »

We often assign extra characteristics to people in movies, even ones that we like, based on minor traits they have. We watched The Dark Knight trilogy recently (well, the second two) and we had slimy, sexist Harvey Dent, an Alfred who constantly gives irrelevant speeches, and then a Bruce Wayne who treats him like an asshole the entire time because of his irrelevant speeches ('for God's sake Alfred I've faked my own death and you're still boring me').
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Re: miscellaneous musings
« Reply #1198 on: 11 Feb 2015, 13:05 »

Started watching. Really seemed like just the exact same ending. Is there a joke in there?
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Re: miscellaneous musings
« Reply #1199 on: 11 Feb 2015, 13:56 »

Are we going to get into a discussion about how dumb that cafe scene is!?
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