Then she is doing a piss poor job of running a company if one employee leaving or starting shit with others, which she does on a near constant basis, will ruin her business. Sara left, Raven left, the business went out without them. Hell, it took Hannelore going over the books and showing Dora she was making money to get Dora to calm down about the business. At this point, if anyone but Hannelore is doing the books for CoD, then the business is fucked.
Neither Sara nor Raven were Dora's assistant manager. Dora was able to loosen the reins in part because of Hanners' discoveries, but she was also cognizant that she was running herself into the ground and opted to delegate. Even fearing that Faye might rub others the wrong way, she bumped her up to A.M. because she was aware that Faye would be the best person for that job. I don't think Penny would be as effective a manager, Hannelore definitely wouldn't, and Cosette, probably not, but who knows. Raven was flaky and Sara is someone people barely remember. Faye would be a loss and a detriment.
I think you are reading it wrong that Faye is just now falling for Angus, I think that happened a long time ago.
Did I write Angus? I meant Sven. I think Faye was close to falling for Sven during their arrangement which is why she said it would be finito if he slept with someone else and why she took things so hard when they ended.
If Faye liking Sven at one point, which she clearly does not now and she only treated him as a fuck buddy then, screws up her relationship with Angus then that is on them. Angus is a stronger guy then I think Marten ever was. He put up with Faye's shit for the longest time and still kept coming back. He has a chance now to do something he has dreamed of, and I think Faye needs to put on her big girl panties and be happy for him and do what she needs to to see this relationship further if that is what she wants.
I can't argue with that. I do think that it's a little unfair, though, because Faye for all intents and purposes has been civil to Sven. She didn't ask for him to dump his shit on her. I think it's understandable if she is a little shaken. I would consider the matter closed if not for the comic where she tunes out Angus and jumps down his throat when he senses she's not being completely forthcoming about her day. That seems like foreshadowing of big problems.
Yeah, they are adults and this is some jr high school bullshit. You don't go around announcing to the world why you are doing something, you just fucking do it. If you don't want to be treated like a 14 year old, you don't act like one. Adults do not need to justify their actions, they just do it and deal with the consequences.
Yeah, not sure why she felt the need to tell Marten. I can understand not telling Faye, but why Marten or anyone? If anything, I think Dora would have been better going to Marten's mom if she had to tell someone, or Tai.
I'm honestly half surprised either Marten or Faye are friends with Dora after all the shit she pulled on them.
... And you lost me again. Pardon? They're friends with her because Dora is a human being and she's made mistakes. Is being insecure now some sort of capital offense punishable by death of all your friendships and people thinking you're an asshole forever? She wrecked what was a decent thing with Marten. She put strain on her relationship with Faye. What do you want? A hair shirt.
At least with Faye she was/is/will-always-be fucked up but she admitted it and did something about it. Dora had to be pushed into it and I still don't think she admits she needs to be an adult and accept her ownership of her problems.
You're seriously telling me that a woman who is running a successful business in her 20s is not being an "adult"? And pardon, but was Dora frogmarched into a therapist's office? I was under the impression that she went under her own power, is working on things, did not blow a gasket during that rough patch with Tai, and is generally trying to live her life.
I just feel that Dora's never going to do anything "good enough" for a lot of people on this forum. She fucked up. Everyone in this comic has fucked up. But Dora seems to be the only one who gets hit upside the head with mistakes made years ago.
I naively went through most of my life believing that my parents divorced because my dad was the asshole and my mom was just a victim of it. Only recently did I start to figure out that ultimately they divorced because they both did some shit wrong and weren't really compatible with each other, and I felt that siding with one over the other or cutting either of them out of my life was pretty pointless. Bad behavior is never excusable, but for me it's really about realizing that sometimes, one person acts shitty to another person who doesn't really deserve it, but most of the time (from what I've seen), two people can act terrible to each other because the person they're with is not really who they're supposed to be with - I speak from experience. And I'm NOT trying to tell you to feel or not to feel a certain way about your father, I'm just letting you know where I come from personally.
I hear you, and I agree. I can tell you 100 percent that my father was a manipulative, abusive, dickwad and because of the religion my mother chose to follow, she was his lapdog. But I do agree with you that very rarely in a relationship are both person's hands clean. This is why I was never super upset about the Dora/Marten breakup. They both, at different times, did not very advisable things. Marten, by all accounts, placed Faye above Dora when he insisted Dora move in with him and Faye rather than him moving out with Dora. Dora's insecurities ran rampant. She seems very happy with Tai, so I think Dora has the capacity to be in a relationship with someone if she feels she was that person's "first choice," which has issues of its own.
Here's the thing though: you're talking about things that COULD happen, not things that have actually happened. Maybe if what you just said went down, I could see Dora being pissed off. But none of it happened, and Faye already disclosed to Marten that although she was annoyed by Sven's behavior, she's resolved to let him "stew in his own juices". I interpret that as meaning that Sven's behavior isn't going to affect Faye's performance at CoD in any significant way.
On the other hand, right now Dora's just being very strange and introducing even more drama. What she's currently doing isn't actually improving the situation for herself or anybody else. Even Marten seemed a little concerned and confused with how she's acting, which is to be expected because he has no idea what she's really talking about. Maybe if she elaborates on it at some point it'll make more sense to people in the comic as well as us readers.
OK, but I'm sure you can see how that applies to your argument, as well? In other words, Dora right now is doing nothing but talking, but you and others have already assumed that it's going to be a problem for Faye, et. al. Why? Tomorrow's comic could have Dora swearing Marten to secrecy with Faye because she wants to handle it. Or she could tell Faye "Hey I heard about Sven, and I know you'll deal with it as you see fit but I've had it with his shit and I'm not dealing with him anymore. Did you show Dale how we grind the coffee beans?"
This whole thing just reminds me of how, when Dora found out Jim told Sam not to tell her he was out on a date, everyone just
knew Dora was going to go nuclear on his ass, and what happened was that she gently, but firmly, told him that she didn't appreciate being kept in the dark and to just be upfront with her next time. The end.
It bothers me that Dora has made a lot of strides and gets cut no slack, ever. No other character gets this level of vitriol. It also reminds me of that strip where Penny talks about how when a guy dumps a girl, his default often is "She was crazy!" instead of "I was an asshole and she reacted to that so I'm going to slander her now instead of taking responsibility." Dora made mistakes and is not that person anymore, but it's like people are defaulting to the "She's crazy!" argument.