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Alice Grove MCDT - November 2014
« on: 02 Nov 2014, 05:37 »

And, as it is a new month, here's your poll and Discussion Thread.
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Re: Alice Grove MCDT - November 2014
« Reply #1 on: 02 Nov 2014, 12:50 »

A second discussion thread...*sniff* our little baby's growing up so fast.
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Re: Alice Grove MCDT - November 2014
« Reply #2 on: 02 Nov 2014, 16:11 »

I voted for Alice's real identity and I'm betting that we're all going to be startled just how mundane it is.
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Re: Alice Grove MCDT - November 2014
« Reply #3 on: 02 Nov 2014, 20:13 »

General Purpose Maintenance Engineer Class II?
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Re: Alice Grove MCDT - November 2014
« Reply #4 on: 02 Nov 2014, 20:35 »

Does "identity" include whatever superpower she has?
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Re: Alice Grove MCDT - November 2014
« Reply #5 on: 02 Nov 2014, 21:31 »

Waiting for QC cameos.... Any bets in when Harriet will put in an appearance?
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Re: Alice Grove MCDT - November 2014
« Reply #6 on: 02 Nov 2014, 22:36 »

I'm better Alice's real identity is GSV.

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Re: Alice Grove MCDT - November 2014
« Reply #7 on: 03 Nov 2014, 08:47 »

Alice's secret identity is Pizza Girl.
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Re: Alice Grove MCDT - November 2014
« Reply #8 on: 03 Nov 2014, 11:15 »

Well, that would explain why we haven't seen her in QC for a while


She's crossed dimensions
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Re: Alice Grove MCDT - November 2014
« Reply #9 on: 03 Nov 2014, 12:04 »

Or perhaps this is where people eaten by the Allosaur go? Does this mean Angus will be joining the cast? People need to know these things!
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Re: Alice Grove MCDT - November 2014
« Reply #10 on: 03 Nov 2014, 13:45 »

What, like the Nethersphere?
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Re: Alice Grove MCDT - November 2014
« Reply #11 on: 03 Nov 2014, 18:10 »

I am more and more getting the impression that Alice is no more a native of this world than Ardent is. Perhaps even less.
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Re: Alice Grove MCDT - November 2014
« Reply #12 on: 03 Nov 2014, 18:16 »

Oh, I get it, we've got an M. Night Shyamalon's The Village situation going on.



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Re: Alice Grove MCDT - November 2014
« Reply #13 on: 03 Nov 2014, 19:47 »

I'm telling you, Alice is the avatar of the General Systems Vehicle Alice Grove. The world is a spaceship and the spaceship is Alice.

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Re: Alice Grove MCDT - November 2014
« Reply #14 on: 03 Nov 2014, 21:37 »

So Alice is still being a shitty xenophobe?
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Re: Alice Grove MCDT - November 2014
« Reply #15 on: 03 Nov 2014, 22:32 »

Maybe. But, whatever's going on, Alice has something to protect here.

One could jump to conclusions about her, but one then skips the questions: Why is the harmony so balanced? What is doing the balancing. Who is managing the what? Is it Alice? And, most interesting, is "Not supposed to possible" a throwaway line, or does Alice know of something that would prevent extra terrestrial sight seers

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Re: Alice Grove MCDT - November 2014
« Reply #16 on: 03 Nov 2014, 23:27 »

Called it: Ardy is a tourist (and, thus, a parody of every thoughtless thing that we do on holiday).

What is interesting is that "it isn't supposed to be possible". My guess is that someone is trying to build a perfect world and has psychotic robot defences in place to stop outsiders from getting in and 'infecting' the place. As for Alice? She's a caretaker. She keeps things working and in balance. Sometimes that involves removing things that disrupt the balance, so Ardent should watch his back!

Alternately, this is a simulation and Alice is an avatar of the system's maintenance algorithms.
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Re: Alice Grove MCDT - November 2014
« Reply #17 on: 03 Nov 2014, 23:45 »

Alternately, this is a GSV and Alice is an avatar of the ship's AI.
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Re: Alice Grove MCDT - November 2014
« Reply #18 on: 03 Nov 2014, 23:59 »

Alternately, this is a GSV and Alice is an avatar of the ship's AI.

Improved that for you.

Is that a The Culture reference? I've never liked those stories. The Culture was always too OP and too self-righteous for my tastes.
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Re: Alice Grove MCDT - November 2014
« Reply #19 on: 04 Nov 2014, 00:06 »

To me, the Culture is a modern take on the United Federation of Planets. Their attitude makes perfect sense for that perspective, and the way it clashes with things around it is fun to watch.

Alice's self-righteousness is certainly in keeping.

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Re: Alice Grove MCDT - November 2014
« Reply #20 on: 04 Nov 2014, 00:26 »

The biggest argument against Alice being an all-powerful AI is that she can't do anything about Ardent. A Culture AI would disintegrate him on the spot and walk on before he even finished dissolving. No, she has some special abilities but she is mostly at the same level as the townsfolk and farmers. That's what makes me think 'Caretaker'.

She may be a very advanced AnthroPC but that's the top limit.

FWIW, I believe that she is capable of/authorised to use deadly force to protect The Experiment, so Ardent should watch his step. However, I suspect that he is a symptom of some far greater problem and may end up an unlikely ally in the tradition of Twoflower.
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Re: Alice Grove MCDT - November 2014
« Reply #21 on: 04 Nov 2014, 00:56 »

Oh, I know she's not a GSV. At the rate this story is moving it will be a good long time before we really know anything, so I came up with the most insane theory still vaguely consistent with the established story.

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Re: Alice Grove MCDT - November 2014
« Reply #22 on: 04 Nov 2014, 01:14 »

I was thinking about this on my way to work this morning and realised that 'Caretaker' has some misleading implications. If Alice has a title, I've got a feeling that it is 'Guardian'.
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Re: Alice Grove MCDT - November 2014
« Reply #23 on: 04 Nov 2014, 04:53 »

Maintenance technician. Custodian. Janitor. Petty Officer Second Class.
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Re: Alice Grove MCDT - November 2014
« Reply #24 on: 04 Nov 2014, 10:34 »

Alice is Mindy and Ardent is Mork.
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Re: Alice Grove MCDT - November 2014
« Reply #25 on: 04 Nov 2014, 14:46 »

For the world is hollow, and I have touched the sky!!
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Re: Alice Grove MCDT - November 2014
« Reply #26 on: 04 Nov 2014, 14:51 »

For the world is hollow, and I have touched the sky!!

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Re: Alice Grove MCDT - November 2014
« Reply #27 on: 05 Nov 2014, 20:07 »

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Re: Alice Grove MCDT - November 2014
« Reply #28 on: 05 Nov 2014, 20:28 »

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Re: Alice Grove MCDT - November 2014
« Reply #29 on: 06 Nov 2014, 22:35 »

Clothes are overrated.
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Re: Alice Grove MCDT - November 2014
« Reply #30 on: 06 Nov 2014, 22:53 »

They seem to be expected in that society.
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Re: Alice Grove MCDT - November 2014
« Reply #31 on: 06 Nov 2014, 23:18 »

ALICE: "Yes! It's a half-naked blue boy with a tail! SO?!? Get out of here, people! Nothing to see! Move on already!"

Seriously, the destabilisation Alice feared has already begun. She'll have to move fast to keep on top of it. Something tells me that this won't be pleasant for poor Ardent!
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Re: Alice Grove MCDT - November 2014
« Reply #32 on: 07 Nov 2014, 11:52 »

I just realized that Alice Grove has no shading. I thought the art looked weird since it started, but I just now figured out why. Huh. Weird.
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Re: Alice Grove MCDT - November 2014
« Reply #33 on: 07 Nov 2014, 11:58 »

Well, at least they don't have Pitchforks and Torches



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Re: Alice Grove MCDT - November 2014
« Reply #34 on: 07 Nov 2014, 12:04 »

I just realized that Alice Grove has no shading. I thought the art looked weird since it started, but I just now figured out why. Huh. Weird.

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Re: Alice Grove MCDT - November 2014
« Reply #35 on: 07 Nov 2014, 14:55 »

I dunno, are you kind of dumb?

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Re: Alice Grove MCDT - November 2014
« Reply #36 on: 07 Nov 2014, 19:26 »

Great, now Reindeer's gonna make you balance a can on your head.
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Re: Alice Grove MCDT - November 2014
« Reply #37 on: 07 Nov 2014, 20:10 »

Nope.

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Re: Alice Grove MCDT - November 2014
« Reply #38 on: 07 Nov 2014, 20:17 »

That'll just get him puffin'
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Re: Alice Grove MCDT - November 2014
« Reply #39 on: 07 Nov 2014, 20:21 »

It's just a lark.

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Re: Alice Grove MCDT - November 2014
« Reply #40 on: 08 Nov 2014, 01:36 »

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Re: Alice Grove MCDT - November 2014
« Reply #41 on: 09 Nov 2014, 09:03 »

I just realized that Alice Grove has no shading. I thought the art looked weird since it started, but I just now figured out why. Huh. Weird.

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What do you mean by shading? She doesn't look odd to me, am I missing something?
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Re: Alice Grove MCDT - November 2014
« Reply #42 on: 09 Nov 2014, 09:31 »

It's like the difference between QC 2762 and QC 2763 - characters are colored, but there's no shading on the 2762 characters.  The shading you see again in 2763 isn't present at all in the Alice Grove comics.
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Re: Alice Grove MCDT - November 2014
« Reply #43 on: 09 Nov 2014, 09:36 »

Oh! I thought you were referring to Alice Grove the character, and I was trying to find how she was different than anyone else.
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Re: Alice Grove MCDT - November 2014
« Reply #44 on: 09 Nov 2014, 11:43 »

No, she is NOt a Vampire
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Re: Alice Grove MCDT - November 2014
« Reply #45 on: 09 Nov 2014, 16:29 »

THAT was what was wrong with the new art style: no texturing.

Compare May's hair in 2761 with the very next strip. That's what's missing in Alice Grove.

Alice's ponytail should have some texture to it, similar to what our red-headed avenger has in QC.
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Re: Alice Grove MCDT - November 2014
« Reply #46 on: 10 Nov 2014, 10:25 »

I would assume it's a conscious choice.  The question is why?  I guess it does make for a kind of pastoral look.
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Re: Alice Grove MCDT - November 2014
« Reply #47 on: 10 Nov 2014, 13:23 »

I think it makes for a brighter look overall to the comic and it has a nice side benefit of saving a fair amount of drawing time (which I think he uses to make the panels bigger)
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Re: Alice Grove MCDT - November 2014
« Reply #48 on: 11 Nov 2014, 12:15 »

I just noticed his tail is up; does that mean he's happy?  He doesn't look happy.
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Re: Alice Grove MCDT - November 2014
« Reply #49 on: 11 Nov 2014, 19:28 »

He could be startled. Or stretching.
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