Topic: Jurassic Park (Read 16714 times)

Edguy · « **on:** 23 Nov 2014, 08:40 »

So, though I'd make a thread about my childhood's favorite movie franchise, since they just released a teaser for a trailer. Oh well, still DINOSAUR HYPE!!

Who else is looking forward to the Jurassic Park rejig? Why (not)?

Teaser trailer #1

BeoPuppy · « **Reply #1 on:** 23 Nov 2014, 08:58 »

If this is a reboot I'll invite whole Hollywood to go and fuck itself.

SubaruStephen · « **Reply #2 on:** 23 Nov 2014, 09:56 »

It's a sequel.

Apparently the plot is that another company buys the original island and manages to to get it working as an amusement park.

Edguy · « **Reply #3 on:** 23 Nov 2014, 10:46 »

It's a soft reboot I guess. Sort of like The Incredible Hulk was from the 2003 movie; it follows the previous movie, but it's essentially a reboot.

Also, I don't really get the big hate for reboots. Of all the evils of Hollywood, I think they are far from the biggest problem. Especially in a movie like Jurassic Park, where the biggest selling point is the concept or the setting, rather than characters or a particular plot arc.

BenRG · « **Reply #4 on:** 23 Nov 2014, 12:32 »

I'll tolerate a reboot if it's a good reboot. However, if it's just a reset button or a redo with renamed characters, I'll be very, very annoyed.

Either way, they are going to have to jump through some pretty major hoops because it was established in The Lost World that the two dino-seeded islands had been made off-limits by the UN. There would have to be an excellent reason given why that had been rescinded or waived and I'm not going to accept a hand-waving away of that.

BeoPuppy · « **Reply #5 on:** 23 Nov 2014, 22:48 »

Reboots are lazy. We'll take what works and ... Do it again! So, so boring. Especiially if the rebooted stuff is not thirty years old.

Edguy · « **Reply #6 on:** 24 Nov 2014, 03:24 »

Quote from: BeoPuppy on 23 Nov 2014, 22:48

Reboots are lazy. We'll take what works and ... Do it again! So, so boring. Especiially if the rebooted stuff is not thirty years old.

Except that's wrong. The idea of a reboot is that you that what doesn't work (or is outdated) and update it. Try a different course. Don't let bad examples like The Amazing Spider-Man taint your view on all reboots. Some franchises really need one.

BenRG · « **Reply #7 on:** 24 Nov 2014, 03:35 »

Quote from: Edguy on 24 Nov 2014, 03:24

Some franchises really need one.

I'm not convinced that the Jurassic Park franchise needed one.

I'm still holding out hope that this is JP4, not a reboot. There are lots of ways to do that and, if you advanced the time-line enough, there is no need to re-gather the original cast (unless you want to bring back the kids from JP/TLW as adults).

BeoPuppy · « **Reply #8 on:** 24 Nov 2014, 04:05 »

Well, I think the whole kit and kaboodle is going to hell in a handbasket ever since I saw people getting ready for that much needed reboot of 1984.

Edguy · « **Reply #9 on:** 24 Nov 2014, 10:43 »

Quote from: BenRG on 24 Nov 2014, 03:35

There are lots of ways to do that and, if you advanced the time-line enough, there is no need to re-gather the original cast.

That right there is essentially a soft reboot. The line between a distant sequel (Star Wars VII) and a soft reboot (The Incredible Hulk) is a blurred one.

As to whether JP needed a reboot (regardless of if JW is a reboot or not), I'm fairly indifferent. Like I said, the appeal, at least to me, of the franchise is not a particular plot arc or character(s), but rather the concept and the setting. What matters is the dinosaurs. If they do the dinosaurs well, then I couldn't care less about Dr Grant, Dr Malcom, Dr Sattler, InGen or the Hammonds.

Jimmy the Squid · « **Reply #10 on:** 25 Nov 2014, 04:58 »

From what I understand Jurassic World is set 22 years after Jurassic Park where, as mentioned upthread, Isla Nublar has been functioning as a dinosaur amusement park for a few years and then something obviously goes wrong. Wheeeeeeeee!

BenRG · « **Reply #11 on:** 25 Nov 2014, 07:06 »

Quote from: Jimmy the Squid on 25 Nov 2014, 04:58

From what I understand Jurassic World is set 22 years after Jurassic Park where, as mentioned upthread, Isla Nublar has been functioning as a dinosaur amusement park for a few years and then something obviously goes wrong. Wheeeeeeeee!

I'd call that a Darwin Award moment.

Lives were lost during the original development program. Lives were lost due to people entering the livestock storage area. Lives were lost when people visited the park island again. Simply put, every time people came close to these things, lives were lost. Whoever thought that they'd get it right this time obviously is immune to education.

Pilchard123 · « **Reply #12 on:** 25 Nov 2014, 10:31 »

Jurassic Park
What could possibly go wrong?
There's monsters ev'rywhere
And tou-rists are dumb

J · « **Reply #13 on:** 25 Nov 2014, 10:47 »

so, yeah.

ok, three things:

1: cliche monster-movie premise is cliche. buuut, 'amusement park attractions run amok due to poor safety measures' wasn't exactly the most original thing either

B) i predict one of two things is going to happen at some point during the plot, either:
a) the Frankensaurus will kill a motherfucking T-rex to show how badass it is, or
b) the Frankensaurus will kill a spinosaurus as apology for that scene that gareth loves so much from JP3. in which case, the main characters will probably at some point be rescued by the intervention of a motherfucking T-rex (deus rex machina).

and thirdly; i kinda like the Jaws gag, but i really wish they'd given Ariana Richards a cameo as the kid's mom

kryptoknight · « **Reply #14 on:** 25 Nov 2014, 13:11 »

The park looks absolutely amazing. I kinda wish it were real. However I think that if the people running it are stupid enough to breed carnivores then they deserve what's coming (Especially after the events of the first three films.) Seriously. It's a creature the size of a city bus that thinks you look like a tasty little snack. WHY WOULD YOU MAKE THAT?!

Pilchard123 · « **Reply #15 on:** 25 Nov 2014, 13:31 »

2:13 sounds like a belch, played really slowly.

BenRG · « **Reply #16 on:** 25 Nov 2014, 14:41 »

Watched trailer.

Darwin Award nomination confirmed.

Kugai · « **Reply #17 on:** 25 Nov 2014, 14:46 »

Oh grud, what the hell has she cooked up.

Tyranosaurus Raptor??

BenRG · « **Reply #18 on:** 25 Nov 2014, 14:52 »

Quote from: Kugai on 25 Nov 2014, 14:46

Oh grud, what the hell has she cooked up.

Tyranosaurus Raptor??

The vocalisation was definitely the Utahraptor-esque 'JP Raptor'. It looks smaller than a Rex though, I'm wondering if it's been hybridised with human DNA to make it even smarter and able to use tools.

For science.

Because, hey! What could possibly go wrong?

Obviously these guys were recruited directly from The Umbrella Corporation's genetics division:

Genetically engineer a perfect killing machine with better-than-human intelligence;
(To be determined)
Profit!

Kugai · « **Reply #19 on:** 25 Nov 2014, 14:56 »

And off went the hero on his motorcycle with his Velocirapor Hunting Pack

Wait ...... WHAT??!!!

J · « **Reply #20 on:** 25 Nov 2014, 15:17 »

also, first genetically modified hybrid dinosaur? wut?

THEY WERE ALL GENETICALLY MODIFIED HYBRID DINOSAURS! THE ENTIRE STORY OF THE FIRST MOVIE HINGED ON THAT POINT!

ALSO I'M PRETTY SURE THAT NON-GENETICALLY MODIFIED DINOSAURS WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO BREATHE, DUE TO CHANGES IN THE OXYGEN CONTENT OF THE EARTH'S ATMOSPHERE OVER THE PAST 65MILLION YEARS!

Thrillho · « **Reply #21 on:** 25 Nov 2014, 15:26 »

That trailer already had too much dinosaurs in it. I would've been happy with just the plesiosaur or whatever that thing is launching out of the water.

Edguy · « **Reply #22 on:** 25 Nov 2014, 16:00 »

Quote from: Kugai on 25 Nov 2014, 14:56

And off went the hero on his motorcycle with his Velocirapor Hunting Pack

Wait ...... WHAT??!!!

Starlord has a bloodhound pack of (huge featherless) Velocirapors. Think about that for a second.

Quote from: J on 25 Nov 2014, 15:17

ALSO I'M PRETTY SURE THAT NON-GENETICALLY MODIFIED DINOSAURS WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO BREATHE, DUE TO CHANGES IN THE OXYGEN CONTENT OF THE EARTH'S ATMOSPHERE OVER THE PAST 65MILLION YEARS!

Let alone exist.

Quote from: Gareth on 25 Nov 2014, 15:26

..the plesiosaur or whatever that thing is launching out of the water.

I'm pretty sure that was a pliosaur (which is a plesiosaur), or possibly a mosasaur (not a plesiosaur)

Edguy · « **Reply #23 on:** 25 Nov 2014, 16:38 »

uhm, double post, sorry :]

BenRG · « **Reply #24 on:** 25 Nov 2014, 23:28 »

Quote from: J on 25 Nov 2014, 15:17

also, first genetically modified hybrid dinosaur? wut?

THEY WERE ALL GENETICALLY MODIFIED HYBRID DINOSAURS! THE ENTIRE STORY OF THE FIRST MOVIE HINGED ON THAT POINT!

They were just using frog DNA to patch the holes in the dino genetic code. The import of frog characteristics (spontaneous gender-swap) was unintended. This is the first time they have deliberately and by design imported features from another species into a dinosaur.

Pilchard123 · « **Reply #25 on:** 26 Nov 2014, 00:42 »

ALT: Hey guys! What's eating you? Ha ha ha, it's me! Oh, what fun we have.

Jimmy the Squid · « **Reply #26 on:** 26 Nov 2014, 01:00 »

It was a Kronosaurus.

J · « **Reply #27 on:** 26 Nov 2014, 02:50 »

Quote

Jurassic World could have been worse. The original idea was to have human-dinosaur hybrids. Here are some concept images leaked a few years ago

Thrillho · « **Reply #28 on:** 26 Nov 2014, 02:52 »

Some of those are kinda cool, I think. But it's not the right franchise for it.

ChaoSera · « **Reply #29 on:** 26 Nov 2014, 06:22 »

Quote from: Gareth on 26 Nov 2014, 02:52

Some of those are kinda cool, I think. But it's not the right franchise for it.

I agree. If they make a movie that doesn't belong to the Jurassic Park franchise but with human-dinosaur hybrids, I would watch it. Hard.

Edguy · « **Reply #30 on:** 26 Nov 2014, 06:29 »

I just hope the plot device dinosaur doesn't turn out to be as stupid as I fear. If it's a T-Rex/Velociraptor hybrid, I'm going to facepalm so hard. But that is what it'll turn out to be, isn't it?

ChaoSera · « **Reply #31 on:** 26 Nov 2014, 12:51 »

Probably, yeah.

LeeC · « **Reply #32 on:** 26 Nov 2014, 12:56 »

That was my guess, yeah. Or some sort of T-rex human hybrid is my second guess.

Edguy · « **Reply #33 on:** 26 Nov 2014, 14:01 »

Quote from: LeeC on 26 Nov 2014, 12:56

Or some sort of T-rex human hybrid is my second guess.

I think (hope?) they learned their lesson from the leak of those concept drawings.

~~mustang6172~~ · « **Reply #34 on:** 26 Nov 2014, 18:57 »

Quote from: J on 25 Nov 2014, 10:47

b) the Frankensaurus will kill a spinosaurus as apology for that scene that gareth loves so much from JP3. in which case, the main characters will probably at some point be rescued by the intervention of a motherfucking T-rex (deus rex machina).

I've noticed the JP movies tend to retcon whenever new discoveries about dinosaurs are made. Recent discoveries have lead to the conclusion that spinosaurus was a marine reptile.

But since there are no feathers on those raptors I guess anything goes.

Edguy · « **Reply #35 on:** 27 Nov 2014, 04:50 »

I think Spinosaurus has been speculated to be somewhat marine, or at least fish eating, since it's discovery. Also, scientists knew that raptors, and probably a lot of other dions, most likely had some degree of feathers before the first JP were made

Masterpiece · « **Reply #36 on:** 27 Nov 2014, 05:05 »

Is it just me or does it feel like Gareth Edwards directed this trailer?

Jimmy the Squid · « **Reply #37 on:** 27 Nov 2014, 07:38 »

It's also worth noting that even when Crichton wrote the first book, he intentionally swapped the names of deinonychus and velociraptor because he thought velociraptor sounded more fearsome. The joke the kid makes at the beginning saying that the velociraptor fossil looks like a turkey is because actual velociraptors were probably about the size of turkeys.

hedgie · « **Reply #38 on:** 27 Nov 2014, 08:18 »

Dude, turkeys are scary. There are huge groups of 'em near where I live, and their big theropod feet freak me out every time. Well, that and they destroy everything in their path, but it's illegal to even shoot them with a crossbow where I am.

Edguy · « **Reply #39 on:** 27 Nov 2014, 08:56 »

Quote from: Masterpiece on 27 Nov 2014, 05:05

Is it just me or does it feel like Gareth Edwards directed this trailer?

Well, they're from the same school of small indie directors picked up for big budget hollywood genre movies.

J · « **Reply #40 on:** 27 Nov 2014, 10:23 »

Quote from: hedgie on 27 Nov 2014, 08:18

Dude, turkeys are scary. There are huge groups of 'em near where I live, and their big theropod feet freak me out every time. Well, that and they destroy everything in their path, but it's illegal to even shoot them with a crossbow where I am.

you talking domestic turkeys, or wild turkeys? because there's a pretty major difference

SubaruStephen · « **Reply #41 on:** 27 Nov 2014, 11:56 »

One comes in a bottle, the other is frozen.

jwhouk · « **Reply #42 on:** 27 Nov 2014, 13:10 »

J speaks the truth. If one of those things gets in front of your car as you're driving down the road, it's like hitting a bowling ball.

Edguy · « **Reply #43 on:** 28 Nov 2014, 10:51 »

Jurassic World Director and Official Site Reveal More Details

Interview with Trevorrow. For example, we get a confirmation that the aquatic dinosaur is indeed a mosasaur.

Also, the "official" site for Jurassic World: http://www.jurassicworld.com/

hedgie · « **Reply #44 on:** 28 Nov 2014, 18:03 »

Quote from: J on 27 Nov 2014, 10:23

Quote from: hedgie on 27 Nov 2014, 08:18
Dude, turkeys are scary. There are huge groups of 'em near where I live, and their big theropod feet freak me out every time. Well, that and they destroy everything in their path, but it's illegal to even shoot them with a crossbow where I am.
you talking domestic turkeys, or wild turkeys? because there's a pretty major difference

Wild ones here. Harassing people and pets, destroying plants and property. If I had my way, they would have been culled and cooked up for the homeless some time ago. A few, we could support, the numbers they have now are far too many for the local environment to support.

~~GarandMarine~~ · « **Reply #45 on:** 29 Nov 2014, 01:58 »

Too bad California hates hunters. Otherwise there'd be a very simple and tasty solution.

The only good kind of wild turkey is in a bottle at your local booze store.

hedgie · « **Reply #46 on:** 29 Nov 2014, 03:18 »

Meh, my uncle regularly hunts, as do many people I know here. None of them have ever had a problem with it. Hell, the wild pig problem in some areas means that land owners often *pay* hunters to take 'em out. I just happen to live in a rather hippie town, and even then, I'm generally opposed to discharging a weapon in urban areas without there being a threat to life || limb to justify it.

LeeC · « **Reply #47 on:** 05 Dec 2014, 14:51 »

Kugai · « **Reply #48 on:** 05 Dec 2014, 18:20 »

"Daddy!!"

Masterpiece · « **Reply #49 on:** 05 Dec 2014, 19:23 »

Man, Chris Pratt really was wrong when he thought he'd never get the star role in a blockbuster. Man's perfect. He just needed the right ramp to get into the spotlight.

I'm also totally fine with that ramp being Andy Dwyer, because shit is hilarious.

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