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Re: WCDT December 15-19, 2014 (2855-2859)
« Reply #300 on: 18 Dec 2014, 20:12 »

I kern see this leading to a font of puns, and justifiably so.
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Re: WCDT December 15-19, 2014 (2855-2859)
« Reply #301 on: 18 Dec 2014, 20:35 »

So, Emily doesn't know what her type is?
I don't know what my type is.

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Re: WCDT December 15-19, 2014 (2855-2859)
« Reply #302 on: 18 Dec 2014, 20:43 »

What, no love for Comic Sans?
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Re: WCDT December 15-19, 2014 (2855-2859)
« Reply #303 on: 18 Dec 2014, 20:44 »

Can't help feel like Claire is being mean about her brother.  Like seriously.
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Re: WCDT December 15-19, 2014 (2855-2859)
« Reply #304 on: 18 Dec 2014, 20:58 »

I considered The Frogs today:  "Brekekekčx-koŕx-koáx"  ( Aristophanes)
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Re: WCDT December 15-19, 2014 (2855-2859)
« Reply #305 on: 18 Dec 2014, 22:06 »

Can't help feel like Claire is being mean about her brother.  Like seriously.

Yeah, it's not a good look. She's not being supportive of her brother at all. I wonder what Marten thinks about this?

As a side note, Jeph has done a great job drawing Claire's face the past few days.
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Re: WCDT December 15-19, 2014 (2855-2859)
« Reply #306 on: 18 Dec 2014, 22:26 »

In her defense I have it on good authority that brothers are all big smelly jerks.
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Re: WCDT December 15-19, 2014 (2855-2859)
« Reply #307 on: 18 Dec 2014, 22:29 »

I am a brother and I can verify this.
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Re: WCDT December 15-19, 2014 (2855-2859)
« Reply #308 on: 18 Dec 2014, 23:24 »

Can't help feel like Claire is being mean about her brother.  Like seriously.

Claire has a big disadvantage: Clinton is her brother and, consequently, she will always see him through the prism of their siblinghood, both positively and negatively. Simply put, the fact that he's her little brother means, to a certain extent, she will always see him as that little boy with a smear of dirt on his nose who pestered her when she was younger.

I'm wondering if Emily and Marten will enable Claire to see Clinton from an outsider's perspective and thus see him without her sibling preconceptions.
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Re: WCDT December 15-19, 2014 (2855-2859)
« Reply #309 on: 18 Dec 2014, 23:33 »

So, Emily doesn't know what her type is?

Now that I think of it, Emily is probably Wing-dings.

Or Miskatonic
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Re: WCDT December 15-19, 2014 (2855-2859)
« Reply #310 on: 19 Dec 2014, 00:04 »

In her defense I have it on good authority that brothers are all big smelly jerks.
I am a brother and I can verify this.

As a little brother I would like to state:
All brothers = Sweaty jerks
Some brothers =/= big
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Re: WCDT December 15-19, 2014 (2855-2859)
« Reply #311 on: 19 Dec 2014, 00:12 »

In her defense I have it on good authority that brothers are all big smelly jerks.

They are?

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Re: WCDT December 15-19, 2014 (2855-2859)
« Reply #312 on: 19 Dec 2014, 00:15 »

*shrug*

I'm the second tallest and oldest of my siblings, three brothers and one sister.

Well, my oldest brother is a jerk, though definitely not smelly, rather the exact opposite.

All other siblings are super nice.

Then again I have the easiest time to talk with my oldest brother. Simply because he talks a lot.
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Re: WCDT December 15-19, 2014 (2855-2859)
« Reply #313 on: 19 Dec 2014, 00:21 »

My brother is eight years younger than me, smells nice, and is a really good guy. Does that mean I am the big, smelly jerk?  :psyduck:
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Re: WCDT December 15-19, 2014 (2855-2859)
« Reply #314 on: 19 Dec 2014, 00:26 »

It's worth remembering how difficult Claire and Clinton's relationship is. Because of this, Claire has a hard time imagining anyone being interested in him 'that way'. It's purely a personal flaw. As I've said, Emily and Marten may help broaden her perspectives and step beyond her prejudices. As Emily said, it's something to consider!
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Re: WCDT December 15-19, 2014 (2855-2859)
« Reply #315 on: 19 Dec 2014, 00:30 »

Consider Phlebas!
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Re: WCDT December 15-19, 2014 (2855-2859)
« Reply #316 on: 19 Dec 2014, 00:42 »

Consider the ant, thou sluggard...
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Re: WCDT December 15-19, 2014 (2855-2859)
« Reply #317 on: 19 Dec 2014, 00:53 »

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Re: WCDT December 15-19, 2014 (2855-2859)
« Reply #318 on: 19 Dec 2014, 01:00 »

(When I) Consider everything that grows
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Re: WCDT December 15-19, 2014 (2855-2859)
« Reply #319 on: 19 Dec 2014, 02:41 »

I don't think it's a sibling-relationship or Clinton-being-redeemed-arc... it's just Claire and Clinton again, and they're not.. much... fun...
They're just not nice. I mean, Clinton is pretty much established as a jerk (sometimes well-meaning, but.. you know.. treating Hanners and Claire the way he did is creepy and/or patronising).

Claire herself is also not really a nice person. One thing is the way she treats her brother - she's the older one, she should be more mature and help Clinton be a better person instead of just making unhelpful jokes (Yes, jokes have their place in a sibling relationship, but so has helpful advice and support. And also calling out when they behave like patronising jerks.). She's also not really nice with the rest of the cast - she's got not much of a filter, but expects everybody else to be on best behaviour (as evidenced by her freaking out by.. Clinton not having a filter).
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Re: WCDT December 15-19, 2014 (2855-2859)
« Reply #320 on: 19 Dec 2014, 02:47 »

Besides - what IS Emily's type, anyway ?  :-o :?
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Re: WCDT December 15-19, 2014 (2855-2859)
« Reply #321 on: 19 Dec 2014, 03:51 »

What, no love for Comic Sans?
No one loves Comic Sans. Except legasthenics.

You can think about dogs, but there's really not much to consider. They're pretty cool.

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Re: WCDT December 15-19, 2014 (2855-2859)
« Reply #322 on: 19 Dec 2014, 04:02 »

What, no love for Comic Sans?

Faye wants a word with you.

(Don't tell her, but I quite like it actually.)
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Re: WCDT December 15-19, 2014 (2855-2859)
« Reply #323 on: 19 Dec 2014, 04:14 »

My type is O negative. The Red Cross loves me.
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Re: WCDT December 15-19, 2014 (2855-2859)
« Reply #324 on: 19 Dec 2014, 04:37 »

I still think Claire's behaviour is very interesting. Notice the first thing she said to Emily was: "Thank you for putting up with my brother." Her first assumption is that Clinton had made himself a pest and that Emily had been inconvenienced by him. Then, in panel 3, she immediately assumes that Emily's puzzlment means that doesn't want to 'hang out' with him and offers to tell him to back off.

What do we learn? Fundamentally, Claire doesn't like Clinton very much and can't see why anyone else would want to spend time with him. It's sad but, sometimes, siblings just end up this way. Claire doesn't really like Clinton. Clinton doesn't really trust Claire to be able to look after her own best interests (these two issues possibly being related and feeding off of each other). I could see a future situation where they basically drift out of contact and don't worry about it too much because they don't feel the need to be in contact.

Finally: Well, of course Emily doesn't really know 'her type'. Since when has she had the chance to find out what 'her type' is? I wonder how Clinton will react to being an experimental subject?
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Re: WCDT December 15-19, 2014 (2855-2859)
« Reply #325 on: 19 Dec 2014, 05:37 »

What, no love for Comic Sans?

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Re: WCDT December 15-19, 2014 (2855-2859)
« Reply #326 on: 19 Dec 2014, 05:59 »

I would remind everyone to B+ about what people's types are and the fonts they are in

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Re: WCDT December 15-19, 2014 (2855-2859)
« Reply #327 on: 19 Dec 2014, 06:11 »

Claire - you're falling into a stereotype. Yes, I know sisters are supposed to behave like that to brothers, and brothers are supposed to expect that. I know that given your unusual history together it might even be seen by both of you as affirming reality, but it doesn't have to be like that. Those stereotypes are best left in SitComs and rancid old movies.

You can be nonconforming to the stereotype, and still not be outcast. So can your weird brother, who's had to live much of his life being different, what with the loss of his hand and all. His act of rebellion is not to kowtow to society, and wear a synthetic flesh covering, but to be out'n'proud. To make a virtue of necessity, throwing it in the face of all those who teased him about it.

Not every girl in your situation has a brother who sees her as just a pesky teasing sister. You should thank your lucky stars for him, pain in the petunias though he may be sometimes.

Sticking out your tongue like that is permissible. Being catty is not.

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Re: WCDT December 15-19, 2014 (2855-2859)
« Reply #328 on: 19 Dec 2014, 06:16 »

I would remind everyone to B+ about what people's types are and the fonts they are in

I always wondered why they put my blood group in my school reports for some subjects. A+

And since it's nearly Christmas....

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Re: WCDT December 15-19, 2014 (2855-2859)
« Reply #329 on: 19 Dec 2014, 06:54 »

Oh nos, down in history :(
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« Reply #330 on: 19 Dec 2014, 07:03 »

Oh nos, down in history :(

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Re: WCDT December 15-19, 2014 (2855-2859)
« Reply #331 on: 19 Dec 2014, 07:07 »

You know, "he'll go down in history" could also be read as innuendo...  :roll:
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Re: WCDT December 15-19, 2014 (2855-2859)
« Reply #332 on: 19 Dec 2014, 07:45 »

Sticking out your tongue like that is permissible. Being catty is not.

Amateur psych mode engaged:

I think Claire is taking the validation she's received as a result of being Marten's nominal girlfriend as an indicator that she's climbed a ladder that her brother is still standing at the bottom of.  Like everyone else in the QC verse, she's got some growing to do, and realizing that finding a romantic partner doesn't make her better than her brother is probably going to be part of that growth.
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Re: WCDT December 15-19, 2014 (2855-2859)
« Reply #333 on: 19 Dec 2014, 07:55 »

I really don't see that, Mooski. I mean the theory could be valid except we've seen that this is how she treats Clinton all the time. To her, he is her annoying brother to be tolerated, even if he is really weird. And he's 'really fun to pick on'. I don't see this as any different that she's ever been towards him. She just can't see him any other way than through her own personal lens, so the idea that someone might be interested in him romantically is just to weird for her.
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Re: WCDT December 15-19, 2014 (2855-2859)
« Reply #334 on: 19 Dec 2014, 08:07 »

I really don't see that, Mooski. I mean the theory could be valid except we've seen that this is how she treats Clinton all the time. To her, he is her annoying brother to be tolerated, even if he is really weird. And he's 'really fun to pick on'. I don't see this as any different that she's ever been towards him. She just can't see him any other way than through her own personal lens, so the idea that someone might be interested in him romantically is just to weird for her.

True, she's been generally nasty to him in all but a few of the interactions they've had, but I'm seeing a "nyah nyah nyah" aspect to it that didn't exist before - panel two of yesterday's comic probably has a lot to do with it.
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Re: WCDT December 15-19, 2014 (2855-2859)
« Reply #335 on: 19 Dec 2014, 08:29 »

I really don't see that, Mooski. I mean the theory could be valid except we've seen that this is how she treats Clinton all the time. To her, he is her annoying brother to be tolerated, even if he is really weird. And he's 'really fun to pick on'. I don't see this as any different that she's ever been towards him. She just can't see him any other way than through her own personal lens, so the idea that someone might be interested in him romantically is just to weird for her.

True, she's been generally nasty to him in all but a few of the interactions they've had, but I'm seeing a "nyah nyah nyah" aspect to it that didn't exist before - panel two of yesterday's comic probably has a lot to do with it.

Jeph could still be working out their relationship to his satisfaction
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Re: WCDT December 15-19, 2014 (2855-2859)
« Reply #336 on: 19 Dec 2014, 09:27 »

Eh. Nobody hates each other quite like siblings. I don't think I'll ever be able to look at my brother without having, in the back of my mind, every moment he wrestled me to the ground. Every moment he got away scot free. Every moment he forced a choice on me through being stubborn. Every moment he made into a competition when it wasn't. Every moment he confounded me with pareidolia (he's falling into a the-world-will-end-soon mindset).

Frankly, if I ever have a family, he won't be allowed to see them. The past haunts the present.
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Re: WCDT December 15-19, 2014 (2855-2859)
« Reply #337 on: 19 Dec 2014, 09:40 »

Also, regarding the comments that Claire is being hypocritical by height-cracking on someone the same height as her... There are differing societal implications to their respective heights due to their different genders. Claire is short, but not abnormally so for a woman (and her dating a taller partner is also societally normal for her gender), whereas Clinton is abnormally short, and Emily seems to be abnormally tall combined with it being societally abnormal for a man to date a taller woman.

That doesn't make it right for Claire to do that (it's still punching down), but it's not exactly hypocritical.
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Re: WCDT December 15-19, 2014 (2855-2859)
« Reply #338 on: 19 Dec 2014, 10:04 »

I honestly don't see either of them as being problematically nasty towards the other. Just seems like normal siblings, especially ones that haven't lived apart for a significant period of time. I don't know if Clinton lives at home still, but even if he doesn't, he would have only been out of the house at most like 3 years, and we know that Claire still lives at home (I'd bet that Clinton still lives at home as well). They've never moved to the point where they have enough personal space to experience not seeing each other every day. That is usually where you start seeing your sibling as less "annoying little bother".
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Re: WCDT December 15-19, 2014 (2855-2859)
« Reply #339 on: 19 Dec 2014, 10:27 »

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Re: WCDT December 15-19, 2014 (2855-2859)
« Reply #340 on: 19 Dec 2014, 10:43 »

In seriousness I thought yesterday Claire was fine while today not as much. She's pretty quick to try and throw a wrench in the date she set up. Which means the whole point was to have a laugh rather than set him up(As opposed to have a laugh AND set him up).

I'm not going to start hating Claire because of it. Clinton's slut shamed Claire and has been controlling(If unsuccessfully so). But I wouldn't mind some development from it. I'd love if Marten or Emily called her on it(Maybe it could be Marten and Claire's first fight) and it lead to Claire and Clinton talking things out.
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Re: WCDT December 15-19, 2014 (2855-2859)
« Reply #341 on: 19 Dec 2014, 11:45 »

oh hey remember how Cute and Quirky it was when Raven spent the morning considering dogs? they even rhyme!! wow!!! quirky!!!!!
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Re: WCDT December 15-19, 2014 (2855-2859)
« Reply #342 on: 19 Dec 2014, 13:18 »

Just my 2 Shekels worth.....




My guess is that Claire and Clintons relationship has gone through a lot of ups and downs

Remember, Claire started out as Clintons older brother, and depending on how things went down after Claire 'Came out' and how it went down when she began her transition from male to female, it probably had some effect on their relationship - good or bad.

It may be that this is normal for them, a sort of 'Default' setting that has grown up over the years as a way for Clinton to cope with the change and for Claire to deal with whatever shit she may have gone through with both him and others.

Don't forget too, Clinton has shown a protective streak towards Claire, so whatever went on before she came onto the scene in the Comic, they have, I think, settled things between each other.
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Re: WCDT December 15-19, 2014 (2855-2859)
« Reply #343 on: 19 Dec 2014, 13:33 »

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It seems likely to me that Claire is just honestly surprised that Emily isn't rejecting Clinton.

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Re: WCDT December 15-19, 2014 (2855-2859)
« Reply #344 on: 19 Dec 2014, 13:50 »

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Re: WCDT December 15-19, 2014 (2855-2859)
« Reply #345 on: 19 Dec 2014, 13:54 »

I think one thing that's being glossed over is that this is Claire talking to Emily, who from what we've seen is by far her closest female friend.  If Claire were talking to anyone else, I'd agree, she's being a bitch to Clinton, but in this case, I don't see it.  It reads more like she's trying to defuse a potentially disastrous situation between two people she cares about alot (with a little bit of "my bff is too good for my dorky little brother" thrown in), not just being a jerk to be a jerk.
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Re: WCDT December 15-19, 2014 (2855-2859)
« Reply #346 on: 19 Dec 2014, 14:00 »

In seriousness I thought yesterday Claire was fine while today not as much. She's pretty quick to try and throw a wrench in the date she set up. Which means the whole point was to have a laugh rather than set him up(As opposed to have a laugh AND set him up).

I'm not going to start hating Claire because of it. Clinton's slut shamed Claire and has been controlling(If unsuccessfully so). But I wouldn't mind some development from it. I'd love if Marten or Emily called her on it(Maybe it could be Marten and Claire's first fight) and it lead to Claire and Clinton talking things out.

Did I miss a comic, I don't remember this at all? (bolded part, I added the bolding).
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Re: WCDT December 15-19, 2014 (2855-2859)
« Reply #347 on: 19 Dec 2014, 14:43 »

Woot! Finals are done and I can once again catch up on QC and what do I find? shenanigans!

I mean, it was established before that Clinton had somewhat accepted our boy protagonist as being a nice enough guy, but even so, I think he seemed to take it a lot better than was expected. He obviously learned second hand about Claire and Marten so I'm assuming maybe Clairemom, along with a warning speech about him making a big deal out of it. Otherwise I'd AT LEAST expect the very normal and understandable amicable face in front of sister, while pulling the boyfriend aside and telling him "take care of her/don't hurt her or else". Because let's be honest, its what happens most of the time irl so one can't even argue it'd be cliche'd.

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In seriousness I thought yesterday Claire was fine while today not as much. She's pretty quick to try and throw a wrench in the date she set up. Which means the whole point was to have a laugh rather than set him up(As opposed to have a laugh AND set him up).

^ this

tho I doubt Marten would argue with Claire about anything in this respect since well, it was kinda his idea after all.
Also, I don't remember the name of the guy that originally came to confiscate Pintsize's laser, but I wonder if it was also him who contacted Emily with her satellite software.
 
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Re: WCDT December 15-19, 2014 (2855-2859)
« Reply #348 on: 19 Dec 2014, 14:48 »

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Did I miss a comic, I don't remember this at all? (bolded part, I added the bolding).

Guilting her for getting drunk at the wedding.

If I'm using the term right? My understanding being it's not really being about actually being or not being a slut, but holding women to a unreasonable standard that you can't really meet unless you like never leave the house.
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Re: WCDT December 15-19, 2014 (2855-2859)
« Reply #349 on: 19 Dec 2014, 15:37 »

Not really using the term correctly. He wasn't angry at Claire because she might have done something with Marten. He was angry and concerned that she got drunk with a bunch of people she didn't know besides Marten. His concern that she let down her guard to much, and as a trans person that could have ended very badly. Though honestly, it wouldn't have been likely to with that group. And you don't have to be trans to get into trouble while drunk. But that was the implication behind their conversation. Especially given that Claire commented right after that she understands the danger she lives with every day, thank you very much over protective little brother.
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