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Re: Alice Grove MCDT - January 2015
« Reply #150 on: 14 Jan 2015, 17:45 »

In 10 months Mr. Fujitsu is going to fire Marty McFly...
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Re: Alice Grove MCDT - January 2015
« Reply #151 on: 14 Jan 2015, 18:10 »

I actually haven't seen the second or third BttF movies. I probably should.
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Re: Alice Grove MCDT - January 2015
« Reply #152 on: 14 Jan 2015, 18:25 »

Did you realize that that comic came out four years ago?
Do you think we've had all the best comics already, and it's all downhill from here?
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Re: Alice Grove MCDT - January 2015
« Reply #153 on: 14 Jan 2015, 18:37 »

I think the best music happened before I was born, so I dunno if that makes me old. But there are always a few good songs a year even now.
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Re: Alice Grove MCDT - January 2015
« Reply #154 on: 15 Jan 2015, 15:29 »

New comic up and... the mood whiplash is quite astonishing!

No, Alice, they're not idiots. They're worse: They're children in fully mature bodies. Imagine six-year olds with hormones and superpowers and you'll get close to what they are.
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Re: Alice Grove MCDT - January 2015
« Reply #155 on: 15 Jan 2015, 16:15 »

Scary!
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Re: Alice Grove MCDT - January 2015
« Reply #156 on: 15 Jan 2015, 16:46 »

Every time Gavia opens her mouth, I knock another year off her assumed age... She's sounding less like a teen and more like a little kid these days...

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Re: Alice Grove MCDT - January 2015
« Reply #157 on: 15 Jan 2015, 17:45 »

I'm telling you, execution would have been a lot simpler and less irritating.........

p.s. Alice was pretty innocent-looking when Gavia hit the boom.

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Re: Alice Grove MCDT - January 2015
« Reply #158 on: 16 Jan 2015, 01:27 »

I'm wondering if Jeph created the 'Scary!' meme in reaction to our response to Alice's demonic smile whilst she was pounding the stuffing out of Gavia?
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Re: Alice Grove MCDT - January 2015
« Reply #159 on: 16 Jan 2015, 03:41 »

p.s. Alice was pretty innocent-looking when Gavia hit the boom.

Alice, when Gavia met her.



I'm gonna have to give Gavia the point. It's a stupid point, but she's not lying. That's the face of a woman who means to beat something to within an inch of it's life, and knows she can do it.

First impressions. They color what comes after.

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Re: Alice Grove MCDT - January 2015
« Reply #160 on: 16 Jan 2015, 03:44 »

*hands out-stretched, palms forward and empty, face fairly neutral* "Can't we talk about thi-"

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Re: Alice Grove MCDT - January 2015
« Reply #161 on: 16 Jan 2015, 04:07 »

I didn't say Alice wasn't trying to negotiate. I said the first thing Gavia saw was Alice's scary face. Which is true.

People who should be trained observers constantly shoot and kill innocents because of first impressions. What Gavia did was stupid, but that up there was her first impression of Alice.

I'm also not saying Alice is wrong. They are idiots.

Neither has asked just how she came out of that explosion unharmed.

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Re: Alice Grove MCDT - January 2015
« Reply #162 on: 16 Jan 2015, 06:34 »


Alice, when Gavia met her.


Shaka, when the walls fell.
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Re: Alice Grove MCDT - January 2015
« Reply #163 on: 16 Jan 2015, 06:45 »

Neko_Ali, winning the thread.
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Re: Alice Grove MCDT - January 2015
« Reply #164 on: 16 Jan 2015, 12:00 »

Neko_Ali, winning the thread.

Agreed.  That was bloody brilliant.
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Re: Alice Grove MCDT - January 2015
« Reply #165 on: 16 Jan 2015, 12:03 »

Thank you thank you. I'll be here all week. Try the blue monkey dishwater.
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Re: Alice Grove MCDT - January 2015
« Reply #166 on: 16 Jan 2015, 12:51 »

Complimenting the Purple Monkey Dishwasher?



I wonder if Alice has Panadol on the shelves for the headache she's beginning to feel dealing with these two?
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Re: Alice Grove MCDT - January 2015
« Reply #167 on: 16 Jan 2015, 15:12 »

Purple Monkey Dishwater is the specialty next door. The Blue Monkey is the house special here.

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Re: Alice Grove MCDT - January 2015
« Reply #168 on: 16 Jan 2015, 21:56 »

*Holds up a bottle of Ol' Janx Spirit*
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Re: Alice Grove MCDT - January 2015
« Reply #169 on: 16 Jan 2015, 22:27 »

I honestly think we should have retired Purple Monkey Dishwasher out of respect when Marcia Wallace died.
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Re: Alice Grove MCDT - January 2015
« Reply #170 on: 19 Jan 2015, 15:21 »

So THAT'S what happened to Ardent's tail huh. Gavia didn't even bother too. You're a bad sister Gavia.
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Re: Alice Grove MCDT - January 2015
« Reply #171 on: 19 Jan 2015, 15:29 »

He didn't even notice? Sheesh Ardent...
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Re: Alice Grove MCDT - January 2015
« Reply #172 on: 19 Jan 2015, 15:49 »

So no nerve endings in the tail, then. Which is consistent with it being a post-natal addition to his physiology. Meaning he can get another one next time he's upstairs.
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Re: Alice Grove MCDT - January 2015
« Reply #173 on: 19 Jan 2015, 16:10 »

So that's what happened to Ardent's delightful tail, huh.
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Re: Alice Grove MCDT - January 2015
« Reply #174 on: 19 Jan 2015, 17:38 »

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Re: Alice Grove MCDT - January 2015
« Reply #175 on: 19 Jan 2015, 17:40 »

I saw this coming!
Well, actually I thought it was an art error and then Jeph started cropping the image so you couldn't see his tail.
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Re: Alice Grove MCDT - January 2015
« Reply #176 on: 19 Jan 2015, 17:47 »

Thinking about the sibs today the thought came to mind that they're the transhuman/posthuman/whatever the hell they are version of Sam.  Gavia probably brings Z'nerreibian Space Frogs home regularly, and Ardent has been known to pretend he's Skullmaster, Master of Skulls.  Which regularly pisses off the real Skullmaster.
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Re: Alice Grove MCDT - January 2015
« Reply #177 on: 19 Jan 2015, 19:58 »

Nannomeds must have dulled the pain.
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Re: Alice Grove MCDT - January 2015
« Reply #178 on: 19 Jan 2015, 23:43 »

It's certainly a designer tail. Ardent said as much to Jack. It's probably capable of full feeling, too. I'm gonna have to go with nanomeds on this one.

I saw this coming!
Well, actually I thought it was an art error and then Jeph started cropping the image so you couldn't see his tail.

Jeph already drew the stump in an earlier strip. He's been setting this up since the "She's my sister" strip.

I'm wondering if the exposition is going actually expose anything, beyond Ardent's nipples. I mean there really are a lot of questions about this world. If I were a non-QC reader or one of the Patreon people who nominally fund AG I'd be pretty disappointed in this comic. We're 32 strips in and we know nothing.

That's probably pretty fast for a five day a week comic, but it's insanely slow for 2 day.

I feel kinda armchair-ish, saying that, but I'm struggling with the same issue in writing, and I don't have a devoted fan base to cover for it. You start thinking, "I can't, as much as I'd like to, take seven strips on this."

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Re: Alice Grove MCDT - January 2015
« Reply #179 on: 20 Jan 2015, 00:00 »

I feel kinda armchair-ish, saying that, but I'm struggling with the same issue in writing, and I don't have a devoted fan base to cover for it. You start thinking, "I can't, as much as I'd like to, take seven strips on this."

I dunno, Grrl Power has been on the first super-villain battle since March 27th of last year, and will finally finish it this Thursday, according to the news post.  Almost a year on one fight.

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« Reply #180 on: 20 Jan 2015, 00:24 »

There were a lot of people though... He did mention that he actually had to take a bunch of stuff out to make it shorter. Fight scenes themselves are fine for comics like this, but there has to be some exposition, jokes or story advance throughout the fight and not just people punching each other. That goes with any scene I think.

But I do believe in this story we're learning something new about the characters each strip, it's just all kinda subtle.
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Re: Alice Grove MCDT - January 2015
« Reply #181 on: 20 Jan 2015, 00:27 »

It's official: Today's comic has me stumped
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Re: Alice Grove MCDT - January 2015
« Reply #182 on: 20 Jan 2015, 01:02 »

I feel kinda armchair-ish, saying that, but I'm struggling with the same issue in writing, and I don't have a devoted fan base to cover for it. You start thinking, "I can't, as much as I'd like to, take seven strips on this."

I dunno, Grrl Power has been on the first super-villain battle since March 27th of last year, and will finally finish it this Thursday, according to the news post.  Almost a year on one fight.

Bad example, since I'm not talking about story pacing, but story set up. Grrl Power set up its story hook in like 6 strips, sweetened the hook ~15 strips after that, then got to the first action ~15 strips later. The next big exposition comes in ~20 strips (only 10 after the last action ends). So the Grrl Power pacing seems in line with what I'd expect for a comic book. Which might be an accident, but still.

I don't know the update rate of Grrl Power. I expect it was slower than Alice to start, based on the colors, but the author might be a fast artist/colorist. Setting a solid hook by strip six and then running with it by strip 20? Seems pretty good to me.

Then again, my sense of pacing is imposing rather arbitrary cut offs. For all we know this the tail end of the set up, and an actual hook is about to snap.

I'm not sure. If this were old school QC, I'd say different things about how the story ought to break. But the AG punchlines don't have the  same, well, punch as the first QC. I haven't laughed at a single AG. I actually chuckled at several of the Grrl Power. I might have to add that to my reading list. I'm sure there's room at the end.

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Re: Alice Grove MCDT - January 2015
« Reply #183 on: 20 Jan 2015, 01:55 »

I agree with the recent commentary about pacing. I feel like we still haven't gotten to what the real conflict is going to be, we're just now hopefully going to learn something about the universe, and I know practically nothing about any of the main characters beyond names and basic personality archetypes.
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Re: Alice Grove MCDT - January 2015
« Reply #184 on: 20 Jan 2015, 02:02 »

He didn't notice that his tail was missing? So, no nerve endings then. Or some kind of adaptation that stops him from feeling the searing pain of the traumatic amputation of one of his limbs. Some kind of unconscious injury-control adaptation is supported by the fact that Alice didn't notice him sitting in a pool of blood.

This implication of an artificially-augmented body feeds into my 'Body by Me' theory that both Gavia and Ardent might have remodelled their bodies using their nano-bots. I wonder how human they normally look?
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Re: Alice Grove MCDT - January 2015
« Reply #185 on: 20 Jan 2015, 03:45 »

Ardent should have turned tail when he saw explosions.
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Re: Alice Grove MCDT - January 2015
« Reply #186 on: 20 Jan 2015, 05:02 »

He did. He just didn't turn with it.

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Re: Alice Grove MCDT - January 2015
« Reply #187 on: 20 Jan 2015, 05:20 »

It suddenly occurred to me: Where's Jack? Alice specifically asked him to tag along to her house as she had something that she needed him to do but he's been missing in action since then. I suppose she might have him doing some busywork outside whilst she debriefs the Vicissitudes (which probably includes details that he cannot be allowed to know) but what job does she want him to do?
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Re: Alice Grove MCDT - January 2015
« Reply #188 on: 20 Jan 2015, 05:54 »

It's official: Today's comic has me stumped

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Re: Alice Grove MCDT - January 2015
« Reply #189 on: 20 Jan 2015, 07:08 »

It suddenly occurred to me: Where's Jack? Alice specifically asked him to tag along to her house as she had something that she needed him to do but he's been missing in action since then. I suppose she might have him doing some busywork outside whilst she debriefs the Vicissitudes (which probably includes details that he cannot be allowed to know) but what job does she want him to do?

He could be outside, tending a fire under a very large pot of oil. Once it comes to a boil, Alice will start seriously questioning Gavia.

Or Alice could have brought him along because she knows she's going to need to work off a lot of frustration after this is done, and Jack is going to be her boy-toy.

Or he's making cookies. Because Alice is from the Dark Side.

What I really think, though, is that Alice sent him back to fetch Ardent's tail. She's going to hold it hostage to ensure Ardent's good behavior.
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Re: Alice Grove MCDT - January 2015
« Reply #190 on: 20 Jan 2015, 07:38 »

It's official: Today's comic has me stumped
I don't think it's going to restore itself, either.  So don't be disappointed if there's a lack of groan.
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Re: Alice Grove MCDT - January 2015
« Reply #191 on: 20 Jan 2015, 10:28 »

He could be outside, tending a fire under a very large pot of oil. Once it comes to a boil, Alice will start seriously questioning Gavia.

Or Alice could have brought him along because she knows she's going to need to work off a lot of frustration after this is done, and Jack is going to be her boy-toy.

Or he's making cookies. Because Alice is from the Dark Side.

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Re: Alice Grove MCDT - January 2015
« Reply #192 on: 20 Jan 2015, 17:49 »

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Re: Alice Grove MCDT - January 2015
« Reply #193 on: 20 Jan 2015, 19:46 »

Now we know Gavia's job. She works at a car wash.

She's the detailer.
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Re: Alice Grove MCDT - January 2015
« Reply #194 on: 20 Jan 2015, 20:26 »

This is a new form of Butts Disease.
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Re: Alice Grove MCDT - January 2015
« Reply #195 on: 20 Jan 2015, 21:37 »

Since Ardent has no understanding of money he can't take advantage of retail services.
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Re: Alice Grove MCDT - January 2015
« Reply #196 on: 20 Jan 2015, 22:43 »

Now we know Gavia's job. She works at a car wash.

She's the detailer.

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Re: Alice Grove MCDT - January 2015
« Reply #197 on: 21 Jan 2015, 08:46 »

Now we know Gavia's job. She works at a car wash.

She's the detailer.

*groan*

I suppose that if Alice can fix it, she'd be working in retail?
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Re: Alice Grove MCDT - January 2015 - on Transporters and such
« Reply #198 on: 21 Jan 2015, 11:58 »

.....Anyway, this all relates to AG in the sense that a generic "transporter"--the Star Trek default--adds the same problems. No writer is obliged to actually solve those problems, but I'd said originally that I'd hoped Jeph was handwaving in an idea that didn't create those issues--like a wormhole. (The energy involved is still titanic, but wormholes don't copy people---unless they are turned into time machines, but that's actually a pretty tricky thing to do, so...). If it's going to be a basic matter/energy transporter, it would be nice to see that some of the implications of that technology actually influence the world the characters live in. (Like the occasionally used trope of, "we live this primitive way because we can. We can because we aren't primitive at all.") Matter/energy manipulation means you can have anything you need, which makes you question what the word "need" means.
......, I'd rather just handwave in something equally improbable without the explosions and replication effect--like a wormhole or something.
The writer of schlockmercenary had addressed both topics of macro and micro wormholes and their application as well as the application of nanites for military use.
Add in politics, intrigue, spy stuff, marketing, lots of explosions and stuff. Did I mention alien aliens? You might recognize a few that were inspired by classic storied races.

A different premise on which to base transporter technology is extrapolating the use of the Diode Tunneling Effect. Mind you that effect still required something on either side of the space being traversed. Well that and compensation for things like relative motion and altitude. Some good short stories and books were based on that idea.

Fantasy has it easy. All you need is a 5th level teleport spell.

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Star Trek was always science lite in TOS but I felt they kept their hand-waving limited and wrote everything down so things at least were consistent.
Each series became less and less science and more, throw the latest buzzards at them since nobody will know what they mean anyways, we sure don't.
Add to that using a different explanation for the technology whenever they needed a technical mishap to write a story around.
The science that more and more of the stories were based on was tabloid at best.
Also a lot of the stories were "inspired" from a lot of older science fiction short stories and adapted by the screen writers [aka butchered]
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Re: Alice Grove MCDT - January 2015
« Reply #199 on: 21 Jan 2015, 16:12 »

The Teraport. I'm familiar. ;p

Pillage. Then burn.

Howard actually went "there" as far as transporters go. The gatekeepers made copies of everyone who used their galactic skate transporter network and interrogated the copies to death. Ghey used the information for political and economic advantage.

Thus, the Gav. And Breya's husband.
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