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The hospital waiting room?

50 (33.3%)

Faye on a trip down Deriver Denial?

26 (17.3%)

Emergency Cast Meeting?

45 (30%)

The police station, charged with the assault (or even murder) of Pintsize?

9 (6%)

Weird archetype-filled dream sequence for Faye in which she sees her life as a strange Pyroland-like fantasy and is Elightened?

20 (13.3%)

Total Members Voted: 139

[TheEvilDog]

I don't see why this would cause tension between Claireten.  When Marten found Faye, who was the first person he called?

This particular event? No, it isn't going to cause problems between Claire and Marten.
The problem is going to be the times after this. When Faye goes out drinking again, when she's drunk and needs help, when (if) she begins recovery and needs support and a dozen other things on the litany of times when Faye is going to need Marten's help. Claire might be chill, but even chill people have a limit to how many times they get put second to someone (in their eyes) determined to drink themselves to oblivion.

[ybtlamw]

I'm worried this whole situation's going to result in Dora leaving the comic.

Once people started bringing it up, I started thinking about the fact that a lot of the blame for Faye ending up in the hospital's going to be placed on Dora's shoulders. She's the last one who interacted with Faye (presumably) and, while I agree with her firing Faye, she wasn't tactful about it at all. I think everyone's going to realize Faye has a problem, but they're going to blame it all on Dora for being the catalyst to Faye drinking herself into the hospital.

I've got a bad feeling that Dora's going to feel ostracized and end up deciding she needs to leave the area to get as far away from her now-ex-friends (and Sven, for that matter) as possible, and that'll lead to Jeph simply dropping her as a character.

I mean, that's pretty unlikely, but...

[sluthy]

Also PSA - according to his Twitter, Jeph's already forwarded a copy of today's QC and AG to a friend to upload in case he loses power/Internet (likely, considering his feed's been dark for five hours now). So it will go up, but we'll probably get no notice of when it does. So spamming F5 I guess it is then.

...and that'll lead to Jeph simply dropping her as a character.

I don't think so. She's distancing herself from Faye but she's still the boss of Hanners, Dale etc and dating Tai. It's highly unlikely that they will all cast her aside, in which case she'll still have too many ties to Northampton/CoD to leave.

[Omega Entity]

I've got a bad feeling that Dora's going to feel ostracized and end up deciding she needs to leave the area to get as far away from her now-ex-friends (and Sven, for that matter) as possible, and that'll lead to Jeph simply dropping her as a character.

I mean, that's pretty unlikely, but...

If Dora didn't have a well-established business, it might be possible, but still pretty unlikely. But with the business? Not gonna happen.

[Rghfrgl]

is anyone else obsessively hitting F5 or whatever "refresh" is on your browser of choice?

It's going to take time for Shelby to dig Jeph out of the freezing snow.

[ybtlamw]

That's why I said it's pretty unlikely. Then again, out of all the ideas I've seen come up with in these WCDT, Jeph always seems to go a route absolutely no one predicted.

[ASB84]

when she fired Faye she threw up some legalize such as bad attitude, rudeness etc when that will have been accepted coffee house behaviour for years and nothing she's ever complained about before.

I still don't think that's what she was saying there. To me, it sounded like she was saying "I can tolerate all that stuff, but not you breaking The One Big Rule."

[elfly]

when she fired Faye she threw up some legalize such as bad attitude, rudeness etc when that will have been accepted coffee house behaviour for years and nothing she's ever complained about before.

I still don't think that's what she was saying there. To me, it sounded like she was saying "I can tolerate all that stuff, but not you breaking The One Big Rule."

People drinking on the job is a big no no that will get you insta fired in many places.

That said.

Dora complained about how Faye treats her employees, how she disrespects her, etc etc, but she still made her manager? That's the crazy part.

Faye getting fired for drinking on the job, nah. That's realistic.

Then again, maybe Dora made her manager with the hope it would force Faye to treat people better.

[TeaOfDeath]

Haven't posted in a few days--I think this thread is hitting me a little hard as a 20-something female with alcohol issues.

This song comes to mind when I think of Faye. Sia (the artist) herself said it was explicitly a song about alcoholism, and it's sung by a woman. It's interesting, how in the last year or two, artists and the media in general are picking up on how alcoholism is a problem for women too--and not just in a "WHHHOOOOAA OUTTA CONTROL PARTY GIRL!" stereotype either. It's a real problem for us too, and it really hits home for people like me, who've only ever seen alcoholism portrayed as a real illness for men; for women it's always a "party phase" or something else negligible.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2vjPBrBU-TM

[stinson6016]

My thoughts too, but she'll be ok right? 

[sluthy]

New comic is 'up', but not working for me yet. It's called 'Prognosis'.

EDIT: The URL of the image itself shouldn't have the www. in front of it. Here it is: http://questionablecontent.net/comics/2883.png

[Method of Madness]

That's a very good question, Marten. I hope so.

[Zalder]

Comic's up and working now.

[jwhouk]

And thus, the question of everyone on these forums is asked by our main character.

"But she'll be OKAY, right?"

[Method of Madness]

Eventually.

[SomeCanadianWeirdo]

This will at least shut up the "Waaah, Faye's gonna die!!!!" talk for a  while. 

[Zalder]

Now that I know she'll recover, I just hope she wakes up with the mother of all hangovers as part of her penance for being such a self destructive jerk as of late.

I do hope she'll be okay.   

[Zalder]

This will at least shut up the "Waaah, Faye's gonna die!!!!" talk for a  while.

I hope it also shuts up the "Pfft, that wasn't even that much alcohol, y'all are just weak" talk.

[HeavyP]

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No, Marten, she will NOT be "okay."  She will not be "okay" for a long time.  She has a long road ahead, from dealing with old demons to battling brand new ones.  If you're planning on being her friend through all this, then buy a mouthguard and a cup, because you're in for a long, brutal slog, son.

[mustang6172]

Squeeee!

I'm sure Fayemom will get on the next plane to Boston.  Her being the third person Marten would call (after Claire and 911), but before Hannelore (what with the couch) and Dr. Corrine.

Much like the car accident, we may never know if this was a suicide attempt.

Intervention anyone?

[Tova]

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If you're planning on being her friend through all this, then buy a mouthguard and a cup, because you're in for a long, brutal slog, son.

If? Really?

[xaszatm]

"Anticipate a full recovery", huh? So she will be OK, but she currently is NOT OK. Interesting. Still, barring Faye drinking in the hospital, she should be fine.

[nosaJay19]

http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2845

To the best of my knowledge this is the first appearance of this relatively scary looking painting. Since then we've only seen it hanging above Faye's head, and of course, it features pretty prominently in 2881.

Maybe it's just for dramatic effect, but I get the sense that "home" in the recent comic titles isn't necessarily Georgia, or any other "home" in the geographic sense as some have suggested.

That may be a good read of the painting, but there are exceptions to this rule. The picture has featured in comedic scenes over the heads of other characters, like in 2458. I happen to remember this strip in particular because I joined the forum the day after it was published.

(click to show/hide)

Edit: In 2456, the same group talking about Faye being stressed with the painting in the background, but the painting itself showed up before the wedding arc.

[cabbagehut]

Marten wanting to be there when Faye wakes up is a very kind and thoughtful thing.  These last two strips have shown what a good friend he is to her.

I know that's not very deep or insightful, but it's touching.  If anyone hits a rough patch in the road, having a friend like that is a very lucky thing, I think.

[Half Empty Coffee Cup]

Oh, Marten. Poor fool that you yet remain (as all of us are, as well), she isn't going to be alright. Not right away. Time, patience, cleaning out the liquor cabinet and repurposing it, and care shall help with that, but it'll take time.

[HeavyP]

If? Really?

I have zero doubt that he'll be there for her through all of this, that's their relationship dynamic.  The "if" is just a way of phrasing my statement.

[Natswash]

in Which Our Hero asks a Question about our Other Hero, Repeatedly

[Kugai]

No, she's not going to be OKAY for quite a while I think.  I can see her relapsing a couple of times before this is all over.

As for Dora, I think she's gonna feel a little responsible for this, but I agree, friend or not, she couldn't put up with Fayes drinking on the job.  My guess is she was hoping that the shock of firing her and coming on strong to her like that would be the proverbial kick in the pants she needed to get herself sorted out. Remember, faye's one of those individuals that you occasionally have to hit over the head with a proverbial Baseball Bat in order to get some ideas through to her.  I don't think she intended it to end up like this.

Undoubtedly getting fired accelerated the process, but I get the feeling that Faye was heading for this since the breakup with Angus, it was just that Dora missed the que.

[emmyelf]

Her recovery and the friendships she currently has are dependent on her choices. I was with a man who abused alcohol and did some really appalling things while drunk. He told me all the time "I don't need help." I started counting how many drinks he had and when to show him that if he wasn't an alcoholic (like i believe him to be) he was still binge drinking to self medicate and THAT was a problem. It ended up getting to the point where I had to leave him. He did some truly awful things to me, and refused to get help. Maybe you'll think I'm heartless. I can deal with that.

If Faye continues down this path, and refuses to get help, I can see her losing a lot of friends, simply because they can't handle it. It's very hard to be supportive of a person who refuses to a) admit they have a problem and b) do something about it.

[Kugai]

Indeed

It shall be interesting to see how this goes.

[hedgie]

Her recovery and the friendships she currently has are dependent on her choices. I was with a man who abused alcohol and did some really appalling things while drunk. He told me all the time "I don't need help." I started counting how many drinks he had and when to show him that if he wasn't an alcoholic (like i believe him to be) he was still binge drinking to self medicate and THAT was a problem. It ended up getting to the point where I had to leave him. He did some truly awful things to me, and refused to get help. Maybe you'll think I'm heartless. I can deal with that.

Self-preservation isn't heartless.  One can't help anyone who refuses to get it, as I have learnt the hard way, on both ends.

[cesariojpn]

Squeeee!

I'm sure Fayemom will get on the next plane to Boston.  Her being the third person Marten would call (after Claire and 911), but before Hannelore (what with the couch) and Dr. Corrine.

Much like the car accident, we may never know if this was a suicide attempt.

Intervention anyone?

Don't forget Faye's Lesbian Sister......wait, is she still around or was she written out like Natasha?

[cesium133]

"Sorry Faye, but your sister was eaten by the allosaurus at the Savannah Zoo. I would have told you, but you seemed busy."

[CasAttack]

I figured she would be (physically) fine. Hopefully people (Marten included) don't read too much into the "anticipate" bit. Doctors man, they know how to say things in a way that you think you're cool and understand, then once they leave you do a double-take

Wonder if Marten's next move is gonna be to let her friends know. I get a feeling he may forget that part unless he told Claire enough info for her to communicate with the others.

[Oilman]

I can't really see how FAYE can stay in Northampton. She has no income, for one thing, and Marten can't afford to carry her financially. The possible relationship with Marten is over, on several levels. She has broken faith with various oeople snd really, there is no good reason for people to trust her. She isn't one if the inner circle who have known each other since schooldays.

I can't really see how she can do anything other than return to Georgia and try to make her peace with her mother and (possibly) sister, although HER issues are in the way of that. I don't get the impression that FAYE regards that particular issue with favour. She needs to get away from Pintsize, who she clearly dislikes all along for reasins which aren't hard to understand. She obviously doesn't much care for Tai's louche behaviour, which verges on sexual assault at times (cf her reaction to Tai jumping on her lap, drunk and pants-less).

No, FAYE is a fish out if water. He reasons fir arriving have never been explained and it isn't working out.

[Omega Entity]

Actually, I believe the reason she left was that she needed a change of scenery - i.e., to get away from Georgia and everything that reminded her of her father.

[Is it cold in here?]

She said pretty much that after The Talk if memory serves.

[KOK]

That punch left no bruise.

[jheartney]

I imagine there are plenty of barista type jobs locally; Faye could get one once she's sober.  She'll have to tone down the violence, but  in principle there's no reason she has to leave town.

The real problem is Marten obviously doesn't get what alcoholism is, and so all his decent impulses are just going to turn him into an enabler. His demanding that the doctor tell him if Faye be OK shows his naiveté about what the issues are. Faye will make a full physical recovery, but that won't touch the causes that made her do this. Faye will use Marten to keep drinking, first by laying on the guilt trip about his being off with Claire while Faye was hurting due to the breakup. She'll also lean on him to support her, or find someone else to do it (hello Hannelore) while she goes back to the bottle. Faye badly needs tough love, but Marten probably isn't the one to give it to her.

[sluthy]

Doctors man, they know how to say things in a way that you think you're cool and understand, then once they leave you do a double-take

Arrested Development 

The possible relationship with Marten is over, on several levels.

He's there, isn't he? "I want to be here when she wakes up."

She isn't one if the inner circle who have known each other since schooldays.

The only two people in the entire comic that knew each other in high school/college were Dora and Raven (assuming Marten and Steve didn't - pretty certain Marten flew over alone). Everyone else met everyone else over the course of this comic, largely through Coffee Of Doom.

I can't really see how she can do anything other than return to Georgia and try to make her peace with her mother and (possibly) sister, although HER issues are in the way of that. I don't get the impression that FAYE regards that particular issue with favour.

What makes you think Faye has an issue with Amanda being gay? Her mother doesn't approve but Faye's shown no signs of homophobia, just surprise.

She obviously doesn't much care for Tai's louche behaviour, which verges on sexual assault at times (cf her reaction to Tai jumping on her lap, drunk and pants-less).

That was Marigold that got the pantsless treatment, although she has been given the lap treatment in the past. But Tai's settled down now anyway.

[mustang6172]

Barista?  Faye's an accomplished welder.  Even if she doesn't want to make a career of it, it pays a lot better.

[TRVA123]

I can't really see how FAYE can stay in Northampton. She has no income, for one thing, and Marten can't afford to carry her financially.

She has no INCOME, that doesn't mean she has no savings. If she's been smart, she should have 2-3 months rent socked away. She should be able to find a job in that time. If she's smart she will go to that gallery and see if she can get any commissions.

[Natswash]

Barista?  Faye's an accomplished welder.  Even if she doesn't want to make a career of it, it pays a lot better.

How much better? I'm curious

[Omega Entity]

Entry level, on average in Michigan is $17 an hour, though it really depends on the employer. As an artist, however, Faye'd be capable of doing far better, since she's proven that she can do some pretty impressive stuff.

[Oilman]

"Faye goes to Bakken" would be a good story, lively anyway.

Dora sold one of her pieces, straight off for what, $2k? Faye clearly posesses a welding spread, and has a driving licence. I would have thought she would make a decent income as a jobbing welder, round the local exhaust shops, body shops, light engineering, plus pieces for sale when she has time....it would get her out of herself and give her some discipline.

+1 that Marten is no use to her at all.


.... picking up an earlier point, "Faye and May go welding" might work. Question - can AIs drive? Faye needs a minder but I couldn't see it being May, there needs to be some dynamic to drive the whole issue. I don't see why an AI wouldn't be a competent welder, there's bound to be an app for it. NDT is worth money, too.

[jheartney]

Barista?  Faye's an accomplished welder.  Even if she doesn't want to make a career of it, it pays a lot better.

She'd need to be certified. Maybe join a union too. If she needs money NOW, it'll be a better bet to do what she's already been doing. She could probably even guilt Dora into giving a recommendation.

Also, welding while drunk is a lot more dangerous than barista-ing while drunk.

Anyway, the point is she has options for income. She's not disabled.

[Is it cold in here?]

"Faye goes to Bakken" would be a good story, lively anyway.

Lively at a minimum! Faye in a man camp? A Southerner working at 25 below? Jeph could have a lot of fun with that one.

[BrusselSprouts]

Seeing someone mistake Marten as Faye's BF is so surreal to me right now. That ship sailed so long ago it's far beyond the horizon.

[Tova]

Marten offers to stay by her bedside and asks a question that makes it clear that he understands her recovery is contingent on more than the mere physical recovery from this one incident.

Commenters decide that he isn't her friend and has no idea what alcoholism is.

I don't understand this place sometimes.

[Oilman]

"Faye goes to Bakken" would be a good story, lively anyway.

Lively at a minimum! Faye in a man camp? A Southerner working at 25 below? Jeph could have a lot of fun with that one.

Faye joins Ice Road Truckers!

You've obviously never been in the Oilpatch. Southerners are EVERYWHERE. I saw a video on YouTube recently about a young woman working as a rig hand at Bakken.