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Faye, Claire, Marten, Steve and Shelby travel the country in a beat up van solving mysteries.

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The return of indie references. Current audience perplexed and doesn't know what's going on.

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Total Members Voted: 76

Voting closed: 22 Mar 2015, 09:42

[valkygrrl]

Hanners is a good friend, not everyone would aim for the knees.

[Rghfrgl]

Platform shoes let Hanners stay that much further away from dirt!

[chaospersonified]

So we can expect Support group by Thursday, is what I took from this. I chuckled, but I'm too wrapped up in the drama side of this particular arc to be anything but irritated that the support group is put off yet another day. Hanners had better play a more intensive role than 'keep me froom buying liquor' in the next few comics, that's all I can think.

[tywren]

Platform shoes let Hanners stay that much further away from dirt!

Best explanation i can think of.

[Kugai]

I also think Faye may be slumping a bot in that last panel.

And a good friend will only trip you up.  Smacking the Knees is only permissible if you overdo the point.

[chaospersonified]

I should say that I'm really happy to see Faye admitting she can't control this all on her own

[SmilingHobo]

It seems like Faye has been reaching out to Hannelore a lot lately...I'm thinking this is an indication that their friendship is going to take on a new depth soon. Faye has stuck to a small and mostly static group of close friends for a very long time, it'd be cool to see her let down her defenses a bit and be more comfortable with someone else in the cast.

[Kugai]

"This could be the beginning of a beautiful friendship."

[chaospersonified]

"This could be the beginning of a beautiful friendship."

From where I'm sitting, the friendship between Faye and Hannelore is fucking gorgeous. It could be better, but that's the kind of comment that leads gorgeous women to destroy their faces with plastic surgery. The Fay-Hannelore friendship is, from my perspective, a pretty damn big chunk of the reason Faye's been able to stay sober for such a short time. It's a fucking PHENOMONAL friendship.

[jheartney]

At this point I think it's mostly Hanners doing the giving, being a very good friend to Faye. Faye is lucky to have such a good pair of friends as Marten and Hannelore. Right now they're what's keeping her alive and viable. If she makes it through, she'll owe both of them a lot.

[chaospersonified]

At this point I think it's mostly Hanners doing the giving, being a very good friend to Faye. Faye is lucky to have such a good pair of friends as Marten and Hannelore. Right now they're what's keeping her alive and viable. If she makes it through, she'll owe both of them a lot.

Damn straight. Ever been addicted to something? Getting clean, you owe everything to someone.

[Oenone]

Hopefully she'll grow into the kind of person who can give back. That's one of the parallels I see between her and Marigold; they're both so traumatized that they only know how to take, and need to learn how to be generous.

[BenRG]

Well, I think that I see Faye's point. I suppose that, to someone for whom metal is her chosen oeuvre, a crowbar is close to a shepherd's crook! This precaution, and her fear of just going to drink herself into oblivion instead, does establish just how afraid Faye is of confronting her demons in front of strangers; not an incomprehensible fear, really.

Now, why did Faye look like she was whispering in panel 2? It looked like she wants to keep this secret from Marten. I'm guessing that Marten is so happy with Claire that Faye feels guilty about interrupting this with her needs. It does remind us how essential kind Hannelore can be; naturally, she'd put herself out for a friend.

Now, am I the only one who thinks that everyone at the group is going to think that poor Hanners is the one who wants to enrol? She looks more the sort, compared to Faye!

[NilsO]

I guess Hanners will smash the liquor store instead of Faye with the crowbar. Or order orbital bombardment of all liquor stores in the vicinity.

Now, am I the only one who thinks that everyone at the group is going to think that poor Hanners is the one who wants to enrol? She looks more the sort, compared to Faye!

Interesting thought, with possibly hilarious consequences. I guess the attendees will be a bit concerned about the crowbar.

The support group introduces several interesting possibilities:

• Will Faye and Hanners find new friends?
• Will they know anyone? Jimbo is a possibility, although he seems not to have a drinking problem. He just drinks.
• Tai is another candidate, although I suspect she does not view her drug abuse as a problem.
• Will Faye flip the tables?

[Akima]

"I used to be an alcoholic like you, until I took a crowbar to the knee."

*skyrim-shot*

[anahata]

It seems like Faye has been reaching out to Hannelore a lot lately

It helps that Hanners is unattached. There's nothing for Faye to be envious about (remembering that the loss of Angus is among her current troubles), it means that Hannelore has more time available for Faye, and because Hanners is not ready for a sexual relationship with anyone (and may never be) she is generally willing to devote more energy than most to being a good friend to everybody. Plus she already has a good track record in being fairy godmother to most of the QC cast.

[Traptin]

Aww, Hanners is so sweet!

[pwhodges]

Jimbo is a possibility, although he seems not to have a drinking problem. He just drinks.

Remember Canada.

[BenRG]

Aww, Hanners is so sweet!

"Sweet" is pretty much the definition of Hannelore, isn't it? Even when she was being creepy or having one of her OCD-generated violent hallucinations your first instinct was to hug her until the panic attack faded away (counter-productive in her case but that isn't the point here).

[Thrillho]

"I used to be an alcoholic like you, until I took a crowbar to the knee."

*skyrim-shot*

It is comforting to me to know that someone as fiercely intelligent as yourself enjoys the goofiest humour as much as I do.

[NilsO]

Both Hanners and Faye seem to have some previous experience with group therapy. Scenario:

• Faye: "Hi, I am Faye, and I am an alcoholic."
• Hanners: "Hi, I am Hanners. You're all going to sober up and quit whining because I am not putting up with any more of your shit!"
• Everybody: "Gah! Yes ma'am! Please don't hurt me ma'am!"

[ASB84]

I feel Jeph's really cooking with the humour and punchlines this week. Not that the strip's been devoid of humour in recent times or anything, but the three so far this week have been really sharp, in my view.

[Doc]

Isn't a crowbar more a tool for breaking into the liquor store?

[Zebediah]

It can be both! That's the beauty of it!

[tywren]

Isn't a crowbar more a tool for breaking into the liquor store?

It's a 7.5 lb. steal bar, with a hook on one end, and a chisel head on the other; it can be used for a lot of things. Some of those things can be very unpleasant to the human body .

[CaptainFish]

I know it's a gag, but it's also a pretty touching gesture for Faye to give Hannelore that crowbar. It shows that Faye realizes she has issues of confrontation and self-control, that she remembers that Hannelore felt uncomfortable about being a physical barrier to alcohol and that Hanners does get some comfort from self defense stuff (although it's obviously super exaggerated). Most importantly it shows that Faye really needs and appreciates the help she's receiving and realizes how hard she can make it for people to help her.

All those sentiments get undercut by it being a joke, but the deadpan delivery lends it a lot of sincerity. Telling a good joke about how much of a jerk a person is requires that person to realize there's some truth in the statement.

[DSL]

Jimbo is a possibility, although he seems not to have a drinking problem. He just drinks.

Remember Canada.

That's Canada's problem.

[cesium133]

I guess Hanners will smash the liquor store instead of Faye with the crowbar. Or order orbital bombardment of all liquor stores in the vicinity.

[jwhouk]

I guess Hanners will smash the liquor store instead of Faye with the crowbar. Or order orbital bombardment of all liquor stores in the vicinity.

I had a pun all set to go here, but I couldn't find a way to carry it into the conversation.

[Aziraphale]

It seems like Faye has been reaching out to Hannelore a lot lately

It helps that Hanners is unattached. There's nothing for Faye to be envious about (remembering that the loss of Angus is among her current troubles), it means that Hannelore has more time available for Faye, and because Hanners is not ready for a sexual relationship with anyone (and may never be) she is generally willing to devote more energy than most to being a good friend to everybody. Plus she already has a good track record in being fairy godmother to most of the QC cast.

Maybe I'm looking at this from the wrong angle, but I think it has more to do with the fact that Hanners is the anti-Faye. Faye's typically snarky, defensive and prickly, but when things get difficult she shuts down (or goes for the bottle). Hanners is patient, sometimes kind to a fault and borders on timid, but when things get difficult -- or when Faye gets difficult -- she doesn't put up with people's shit. I think Faye respects (and kinda needs) someone who can not only go toe-to-toe with her, but whose friendship and motives she trusts.

[chaospersonified]

It seems like Faye has been reaching out to Hannelore a lot lately

It helps that Hanners is unattached. There's nothing for Faye to be envious about (remembering that the loss of Angus is among her current troubles), it means that Hannelore has more time available for Faye, and because Hanners is not ready for a sexual relationship with anyone (and may never be) she is generally willing to devote more energy than most to being a good friend to everybody. Plus she already has a good track record in being fairy godmother to most of the QC cast.

Maybe I'm looking at this from the wrong angle, but I think it has more to do with the fact that Hanners is the anti-Faye. Faye's typically snarky, defensive and prickly, but when things get difficult she shuts down (or goes for the bottle). Hanners is patient, sometimes kind to a fault and borders on timid, but when things get difficult -- or when Faye gets difficult -- she doesn't put up with people's shit. I think Faye respects (and kinda needs) someone who can not only go toe-to-toe with her, but whose friendship and motives she trusts.

I think that's a fantastic character analysis.
Anahata made a good point, too, about Hanners' lack of attachments making her a fantastic supporter, in regards to having time and the right attitude.

I'm just glad Faye's reaching out to someone. Hanners is the best choice, for sure. 

Like Anahata said, Faye is still hurting from her break-up with Angus. With Dora gone, and CoD gone, she doesn't actually have many other close friends to help her. Marten, of course, is the obvious option, but have you ever been around an adorable, happy couple after you end a relationship? I'm just saying, Faye might well agree with the forum members who whine and complain every time Claire and Marten spend time together in-strip.

[Aziraphale]

She's probably happy for both of them, but you're right. Post-breakup, the last thing you want to see is a bunch of happy, lovey people.

[Omega Entity]

Pssh, I hate Valentines and sweetest day with the burning passion of a thousand firey suns for how much they remind me I'm alone, and I've been single for over a decade.

[DSL]

I guess Hanners will smash the liquor store instead of Faye with the crowbar. Or order orbital bombardment of all liquor stores in the vicinity.

I had a pun all set to go here, but I couldn't find a way to carry it into the conversation.

We'll just carry it for a while and ax you again later. I'm sure you'll hatchet with no problem.

[Aziraphale]

Pssh, I hate Valentines and sweetest day with the burning passion of a thousand firey suns for how much they remind me I'm alone, and I've been single for over a decade.

TBH, I never minded being single as much as I minded the platitudes and unsolicited "advice" that came with it.

[cesium133]

I guess Hanners will smash the liquor store instead of Faye with the crowbar. Or order orbital bombardment of all liquor stores in the vicinity.

I had a pun all set to go here, but I couldn't find a way to carry it into the conversation.

We'll just carry it for a while and ax you again later. I'm sure you'll hatchet with no problem.

I'm sure the nation will not mind.

[valkygrrl]

Pssh, I hate Valentines and sweetest day with the burning passion of a thousand firey suns for how much they remind me I'm alone, and I've been single for over a decade.

Just remind yourself about all the discounted chocolate you can get the day after.

TBH, I never minded being single as much as I minded the platitudes and unsolicited "advice" that came with it.

Guilty, but in my defense, chocolate.

[chaospersonified]

Pssh, I hate Valentines and sweetest day with the burning passion of a thousand firey suns for how much they remind me I'm alone, and I've been single for over a decade.

Double that, subtract the idea of having  ever been in a relationship, and you get my sentiment. I don't count the girl I 'dated' in seventh grade but was too afraid to kiss, because that was really just having a friend who would occasionally tell me she dreamed about marrying me, while her dad sat on the front porch with a shotgun, staring at us. He thought it was hilarious, and in retrospect, I agree, but at the time...

Valkygrrl, you have the right idea.

Anyway, though, the point was that as much as Faye might say she's cool with it, I highly doubt if she really is, on a fundamental level, okay with it.

[Aziraphale]

I guess Hanners will smash the liquor store instead of Faye with the crowbar. Or order orbital bombardment of all liquor stores in the vicinity.

I had a pun all set to go here, but I couldn't find a way to carry it into the conversation.

We'll just carry it for a while and ax you again later. I'm sure you'll hatchet with no problem.

I'm sure the nation will not mind.

Thanks for clearing that up. Recognized the face, but thought it was someone else and was going to suggest taking a whack (or forty) at it anyway...

[chaospersonified]

I guess Hanners will smash the liquor store instead of Faye with the crowbar. Or order orbital bombardment of all liquor stores in the vicinity.

I had a pun all set to go here, but I couldn't find a way to carry it into the conversation.

We'll just carry it for a while and ax you again later. I'm sure you'll hatchet with no problem.

I'm sure the nation will not mind.

Thanks for clearing that up. Recognized the face, but thought it was someone else and was going to suggest taking a whack (or forty) at it anyway...

I see what you did there. I never get borden this message board

[Omega Entity]

Pssh, I hate Valentines and sweetest day with the burning passion of a thousand firey suns for how much they remind me I'm alone, and I've been single for over a decade.

Just remind yourself about all the discounted chocolate you can get the day after.

Well, I did get a $20 Valentines box of Godiva chocolate for $6...

[hedgie]

Very nice.  As per usual, I just got a hangover.

[Tova]

Isn't a crowbar more a tool for breaking into the liquor store?

It's more of a weapon for defense against headcrabs.

[Rghfrgl]

Isn't a crowbar more a tool for breaking into the liquor store?

Best part is it doubles as a bottle opener.

[Kugai]

And if you accidentally lock yourself out of your apartment, it serves as a handy spare door key..

[Nepiophage]

Isn't a crowbar more a tool for breaking into the liquor store?

It's more of a weapon for defense against headcrabs.

Do you mean Gordon?

[Nepiophage]

A thought has just occurred to me. What will Sam's reaction be when she arrives at CoD and finds out that Faye has been fired?

[chaospersonified]

A thought has just occurred to me. What will Sam's reaction be when she arrives at CoD and finds out that Faye has been fired?

It's been mentioned on here before, but always in order to make a joke of some kind. It's a good question, though. She'll be upset, for sure, but what would she do about it? I think it was suggested immediately after the hospital thing that Sam might force her way into helping somehow with Faye's recovery, but maybe she could do something to help with Faye's sobriety?

[Gladstone]

I just want Sam to meet Claire so she can have another big sister to hang out with.

Although Faye lets Sam make swords, so Claire is already at a disadvantage in the "cool older sister" competition.

[chaospersonified]

I just want Sam to meet Claire so she can have another big sister to hang out with.

Although Faye lets Sam make swords, so Claire is already at a disadvantage in the "cool older sister" competition.

Sam worships frogs and is outdoorsy. Claire likes libraries. Also adding to the evidence that Claire doesn't work as a 'cool, older sister,' She's ALREADY an older sister, and not a cool one, especially, at least not to Clinton.