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Re: WCDT Strips 3001-3005 (13 to 17 July 2015)
« Reply #100 on: 15 Jul 2015, 18:03 »

In before Pintsize VespavengerBot rematch  :-D
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Re: WCDT Strips 3001-3005 (13 to 17 July 2015)
« Reply #101 on: 15 Jul 2015, 18:41 »

More importantly, we need to meet Bubbles.



WHO

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Uh, she's kind of hard to miss, being eight feet tall and kind of maroon-colored.

Oh, Zebediah, your name makes you sound ancient and wise, can't you see, I'm talking about the person on Bubbles, not her physical body! You could literally put Bubbles on Momo's chassis, but that wouldn't make her Momo! I repeat the question from earlier!

Who is Bubbles!?

I'm thinking, because I'm hyping this up, she's not even going to be a recurring character.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3001-3005 (13 to 17 July 2015)
« Reply #102 on: 15 Jul 2015, 19:15 »

New comic.

Well, you wanted to know who Bubbles is.  :-P
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Re: WCDT Strips 3001-3005 (13 to 17 July 2015)
« Reply #103 on: 15 Jul 2015, 19:31 »

Are all fighting robots supposed to be humanoid?  Seems like the best design would be some kind of self-aware tank.  Are there different classes?
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Re: WCDT Strips 3001-3005 (13 to 17 July 2015)
« Reply #104 on: 15 Jul 2015, 19:35 »

Yep, Bubbles is definitely in the wrong comic.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3001-3005 (13 to 17 July 2015)
« Reply #105 on: 15 Jul 2015, 19:58 »

New comic.

Well, you wanted to know who Bubbles is.  :-P

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Re: WCDT Strips 3001-3005 (13 to 17 July 2015)
« Reply #106 on: 15 Jul 2015, 20:23 »

Neat strip.

And yeah, an undercut would look good on Bubbles.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3001-3005 (13 to 17 July 2015)
« Reply #107 on: 15 Jul 2015, 20:31 »



"Her name's Bubbles."
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Re: WCDT Strips 3001-3005 (13 to 17 July 2015)
« Reply #108 on: 15 Jul 2015, 21:00 »

I can never get enough of Jeph's AI's.
This will be AWESOME!
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Re: WCDT Strips 3001-3005 (13 to 17 July 2015)
« Reply #109 on: 15 Jul 2015, 21:19 »

Proof against 3cm Armour Piercing Fin Stabilised Discarding Sabot.

Oh spit.

For my sins, I worked with 25mm APFSDS rounds in the past.

Good rule of thumb - AP can penetrate its diameter in armour steel.  APDS - twice. APFSDS - thrice.

Bubbles has rather better protection than a WWII Tiger tank. That had 8cm side armour.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3001-3005 (13 to 17 July 2015)
« Reply #110 on: 15 Jul 2015, 22:06 »

I had no idea that it was possible to produce a discarding-sabot round in so small a calibre, but search-fu revealed that it is indeed so. A hyper-velocity needle ever ready to inject the depleted uranium of the people :-\ (with apologies to William Plomer).

So... Is Bubbles ex-military? One would assume so. An interesting filler comic.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3001-3005 (13 to 17 July 2015)
« Reply #111 on: 15 Jul 2015, 22:08 »

Anyway, this must be Pintsizes wet dream: carried around by Faye clutched to her bosoms.

His grin says it all.
Surely panel 2 is a subject for the caption competition.

I thought that he was just very happy to be doing something besides just being entertaining/annoying.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3001-3005 (13 to 17 July 2015)
« Reply #112 on: 15 Jul 2015, 22:19 »

She looks like the perfect girlfriend for Sechs from Battle Angel Allita Last Order (Gunnm in Japanese and French).
The only worries we might have is the destructive nature of their frollicking...
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Re: WCDT Strips 3001-3005 (13 to 17 July 2015)
« Reply #113 on: 15 Jul 2015, 22:46 »

Yay Bubbles  :-D

Though I still want Deathbot9000 to show up again. With or without his canadian girlfriend.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3001-3005 (13 to 17 July 2015)
« Reply #114 on: 15 Jul 2015, 23:12 »

It's odd but some of Jeph's text today really does suggest to me that Bubbles' day job may be in child care.

That aside, an I the only one expecting a personality a bit like Faye's? I'm predicting her to be tough, determined to be independent and strong but with a soft heart. In the end, she wants to be accepted for what she is!
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Re: WCDT Strips 3001-3005 (13 to 17 July 2015)
« Reply #115 on: 16 Jul 2015, 00:43 »

The tickle zone supports that.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3001-3005 (13 to 17 July 2015)
« Reply #116 on: 16 Jul 2015, 01:26 »

Considering one of the screens on a nintendo DS is a touchscreen, I wonder how would that work for Bubbles. I assume the stylus means it's usable by non-humans but there's the weak construction of the stylus itself.

Also, I wonder how Bubbles feels / will feel about Iwata's death. Probably super-sad.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3001-3005 (13 to 17 July 2015)
« Reply #117 on: 16 Jul 2015, 03:31 »

I feel Jeph's comedic and Slice of Life mastery is let down a little by his art skills for this one.

If we're getting a pinup for a comic, I wouldn't mind if it was prettier than usual, rather than a character sketch with annotations.

On the other hand, they really good annotations.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3001-3005 (13 to 17 July 2015)
« Reply #118 on: 16 Jul 2015, 03:38 »

I hope Bubbles is a Ref and not a Competitor.

Anything which requires that degree of armour protection is Bad News. Collateral Damage waiting to happen.
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« Reply #119 on: 16 Jul 2015, 03:57 »

I had no idea that it was possible to produce a discarding-sabot round in so small a calibre, but search-fu revealed that it is indeed so. A hyper-velocity needle ever ready to inject the depleted uranium of the people :-\ (with apologies to William Plomer).
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This is one scary piece of kit.


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Re: WCDT Strips 3001-3005 (13 to 17 July 2015)
« Reply #120 on: 16 Jul 2015, 04:02 »

I hope Bubbles is a Ref and not a Competitor.

Anything which requires that degree of armour protection is Bad News. Collateral Damage waiting to happen.

Bubbles is a trainer/manager. She retired from the ring after an unfortunate accident in her last match - it turned out her opponent wasn't a bot after all, but a member of Daft Punk. She still has bad flashbacks every time she hears "Get Lucky".
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Re: WCDT Strips 3001-3005 (13 to 17 July 2015)
« Reply #121 on: 16 Jul 2015, 04:50 »

I like Bubbles and her truthful hips.

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Re: WCDT Strips 3001-3005 (13 to 17 July 2015)
« Reply #122 on: 16 Jul 2015, 06:51 »

It's odd but some of Jeph's text today really does suggest to me that Bubbles' day job may be in child care.

She's labelled specifically as an autonomous combat droid in the top left. I suspect reference to kittens and kickball to be largely incidental, if only because who the goddamn hell would put military tech in charge of their child
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Re: WCDT Strips 3001-3005 (13 to 17 July 2015)
« Reply #123 on: 16 Jul 2015, 07:17 »

My idea is quite the contrary to BenRG's. Those annotations go for her free time, which she enjoys either keeping herself active (hence the kickball reference) or staying at whatever she calls home with an assortment of different loving cats.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3001-3005 (13 to 17 July 2015)
« Reply #124 on: 16 Jul 2015, 08:33 »

Or maybe humor.

I just want to know whether "slinky abs" means she's alluringly curvy -- or that she walks down stairs, alone or in pairs, and makes a slinkety sound.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3001-3005 (13 to 17 July 2015)
« Reply #125 on: 16 Jul 2015, 08:44 »

Why not both?
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« Reply #126 on: 16 Jul 2015, 08:46 »

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Bubbles! Bubbles!
My bubbles!!!

Remember the yellow fish from Finding Nemo?  :-D

Oh, I canīt wait for tomorrow.
Bubbles raises a lot of interesting questions. Her chassis appears to be military hardware (like Pintsize). But a lot more powerful and advanced. I wonder how military ground combat is conducted in a world where humanoid warbots are used. Maybe her chassis is designed for special ops.
But how can such a chassis get out of militarys hands? How does an AI get to run around in civilian enivironment and even have it painted red "because it looks cool"?
OK, this is the USA, so it may be common, but for someone from Europe this feels quite strange.
I wonder how the NRA thinks about this.

Bubbles seems to be involved in organising the fights. Maybe sheīs some kind of bouncer or referee, once the the fights get out of hand. But who is the manager then? Maybe May is involved here? I wouldnīt put it beside her.
Does Bubbles run around in this chassis in her free time? We know AIīs can change their chassis without too much trouble. Maybe she changes hers when she leaves the skate park. Maybe she even knows Momo, perhaps from the robot support group...

In a world with artificial intelligence, invisible aircrafts, space stations and Vespa- or deathbots some other new technology comes as no surprise. So the high-effective armour  and the artificial muscles are pretty logical in my oppinion.

Aaah, this is a lot of fun. I canīt wait for tomorrow. So many questions, so many possible answers. So much potential for hilarius fun here.  :-D

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Re: WCDT Strips 3001-3005 (13 to 17 July 2015)
« Reply #127 on: 16 Jul 2015, 09:01 »

or that she walks down stairs, alone or in pairs, and makes a slinkety sound.

Or simply goes down like a Slinky:

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Re: WCDT Strips 3001-3005 (13 to 17 July 2015)
« Reply #128 on: 16 Jul 2015, 09:13 »

With pressure against the inhumanity of self destruct buttons even among the robot fighting community the tickle zone was created as a alternative built in weakness should the robots go rogue and try to destroy their masters.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3001-3005 (13 to 17 July 2015)
« Reply #129 on: 16 Jul 2015, 10:30 »

I don't think Bubbles's chest plate is supposed to be conforming boob. It looks more like sectional articulation, like the Nolan Batsuit.

Still not a good idea, because of impact guidance, but Bubbles probably doesn't have a heart and lungs under there. In fact, I'm thinking a missile emplacement ala Striker Eureka. Changes the meaning of "Nice rack."

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« Reply #130 on: 16 Jul 2015, 11:36 »

or that she walks down stairs, alone or in pairs, and makes a slinkety sound.

Or simply goes down like a Slinky:



I believe we're saying the same thing, there.
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« Reply #131 on: 16 Jul 2015, 12:45 »

I don't think Bubbles's chest plate is supposed to be conforming boob. It looks more like sectional articulation, like the Nolan Batsuit.

Still not a good idea, because of impact guidance, but Bubbles probably doesn't have a heart and lungs under there. In fact, I'm thinking a missile emplacement ala Striker Eureka. Changes the meaning of "Nice rack."

This section of her chassis is probably the most heavily armoured. Because I suppose this is where the most important and vulnerable part is hidden: her CPU.
It doesnīt make sense to put the CPU of a warbot in his head. It is exposed, relatve small, has to be equipped with a lot of sensors and a speaker, plus the device that mimics facial expressions. Not so much place for a heavily armored "brain" left here. The chest provides a lot of space for the CPU and can be protected even better by additional external armour. Together with the energy source of the bot.

Hah, fictional robot technology. I love it.  8-)

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Re: WCDT Strips 3001-3005 (13 to 17 July 2015)
« Reply #132 on: 16 Jul 2015, 13:03 »

I still want to know where Blossom and Buttercup are
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Re: WCDT Strips 3001-3005 (13 to 17 July 2015)
« Reply #133 on: 16 Jul 2015, 13:37 »

This section of her chassis is probably the most heavily armoured. Because I suppose this is where the most important and vulnerable part is hidden: her CPU.
It doesnīt make sense to put the CPU of a warbot in his head. It is exposed, relatve small, has to be equipped with a lot of sensors and a speaker, plus the device that mimics facial expressions. Not so much place for a heavily armored "brain" left here. The chest provides a lot of space for the CPU and can be protected even better by additional external armour. Together with the energy source of the bot.

Hah, fictional robot technology. I love it.  8-)

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As previously pointed out, the seam and contouring on Bubbles's chest actually makes that section of her body MORE vulnerable. While arguments can be made for placing the most critical systems there, there's no actual reason they have to be.

Assuming that seam is just a point of articulation, given the stated resistance of her armor plate, anything that penetrates that seam is going to stay inside. It won't be able to get out. To borrow a phrase, it will "rattle around in there like Pac-Man until [she's] dead."

Whether the head is a better or worse location depends on how it is built. There's nothing that said human level AI requires a human sized brain. There may be no need for a kilo of matter in 1.3 liters of space. It might be much much smaller. That means much more of the skull could be devoted to armor. Since the skull is largely not articulated, it can be a much sturdier set of thicker armor.

There might be advantages, as well, in keeping the signal distance between the "brain" and primary sensor groups short. This might be off set by the added distance between the brain and primary motor groups, but that could be addressed the same way as humans do it- have a lot of basic motor function directed by the spine.

While there are arguments to doing it either way, there's nt absolute best way to build a QC warbot, until Jeph says there is.

Until that point, I'm going to continue to imagine that Bubbles's chest is full of missiles and she's all Itano Circus up on any challenger.

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Re: WCDT Strips 3001-3005 (13 to 17 July 2015)
« Reply #134 on: 16 Jul 2015, 16:11 »

I still want to know where Blossom and Buttercup are

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Re: WCDT Strips 3001-3005 (13 to 17 July 2015)
« Reply #135 on: 16 Jul 2015, 16:15 »

For that matter, there's no reason that Bubbles needs to have her intelligence localized in a single processor. Spread the processing units throughout the body and you have a much more robust system.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3001-3005 (13 to 17 July 2015)
« Reply #136 on: 16 Jul 2015, 16:28 »

Is it too soon to start thinking of Bubbles as a potential romantic partner for Pintsize?

Considering she could launch him into space with her bare hands, I'd like to see what happens when she decides she's had enough of his crap and dumps him. (My money's on Robot Jox level destruction.)
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Re: WCDT Strips 3001-3005 (13 to 17 July 2015)
« Reply #137 on: 16 Jul 2015, 16:30 »

I wonder how the NRA thinks about this.

I can see this being their solution to any problems....
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Re: WCDT Strips 3001-3005 (13 to 17 July 2015)
« Reply #138 on: 16 Jul 2015, 16:31 »

Considering one of the screens on a nintendo DS is a touchscreen, I wonder how would that work for Bubbles. I assume the stylus means it's usable by non-humans but there's the weak construction of the stylus itself.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3001-3005 (13 to 17 July 2015)
« Reply #139 on: 16 Jul 2015, 16:39 »

One person I know had a cheap iPhone clone that had a resistive touchscreen. He used his keys to touch the screen because they were sharp enough to put enough pressure on it.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3001-3005 (13 to 17 July 2015)
« Reply #140 on: 16 Jul 2015, 18:19 »

I had no idea that it was possible to produce a discarding-sabot round in so small a calibre, but search-fu revealed that it is indeed so. A hyper-velocity needle ever ready to inject the depleted uranium of the people :-\ (with apologies to William Plomer).
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This is one scary piece of kit.

The 'Hog nerds did a kinetic calculation on "upgrading" the Avenger with APFSDS and came to the conclusion that it wouldn't hit any harder. Apparently, 11inch 30mm (why they gotta mix metrics) shells are really all you need with the right gun.

I think the Russians built an even more powerful 30mm gun system, but it kept damaging the aircraft when fired, so they gave up. If Bubbles can stand up to that, she's a super hero.

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Re: WCDT Strips 3001-3005 (13 to 17 July 2015)
« Reply #141 on: 16 Jul 2015, 19:14 »

I did not expect that response from Bubbles after the Pintsize comment.

Now being serious on her metalworking skill, an espressosaurus seems more than enough statement of metal shaping skills, but they didn't have joints.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3001-3005 (13 to 17 July 2015)
« Reply #142 on: 16 Jul 2015, 19:39 »

And just what the hell is Pintsize doing up there anyway?
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Re: WCDT Strips 3001-3005 (13 to 17 July 2015)
« Reply #143 on: 16 Jul 2015, 19:40 »

I don't think Bubbles's chest plate is supposed to be conforming boob. It looks more like sectional articulation, like the Nolan Batsuit.

Still not a good idea, because of impact guidance, but Bubbles probably doesn't have a heart and lungs under there. In fact, I'm thinking a missile emplacement ala Striker Eureka. Changes the meaning of "Nice rack."

Um, Aphrodite A from Mazinger Z.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08VMDWRtn_I And Go Nagai has a lot to answer for.

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Re: WCDT Strips 3001-3005 (13 to 17 July 2015)
« Reply #144 on: 16 Jul 2015, 20:23 »

I'm familiar with Aphrodite A. While boob missiles make a fine joke, in some sense, I was actually referring to the fact that Striker Eureka has an actual rack of missile launchers in its chest.

Not embedded, cuz it doesn't need to be. https://youtu.be/QLHGLn2PdyY?t=35s

Since Bubbles has a sectional chest, launching whole plate would be odd. Unless it is reactive armor.

I know I'm pooping on the joke, but I was never really fond of that particular bit of anime stupidity and must, therefore, distance my joke from it as much as humanly possible.

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Re: WCDT Strips 3001-3005 (13 to 17 July 2015)
« Reply #145 on: 16 Jul 2015, 21:44 »

Can this possibly mean what I desperately hope it means? I dare think that our lovers' tournaments are becoming mission-critical to the plotline.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3001-3005 (13 to 17 July 2015)
« Reply #146 on: 16 Jul 2015, 21:54 »

In fact, I'm thinking a missile emplacement ala Striker Eureka. Changes the meaning of "Nice rack."

I'll just put this here....

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Re: WCDT Strips 3001-3005 (13 to 17 July 2015)
« Reply #147 on: 16 Jul 2015, 22:23 »

Speed, forearm blades, chest weapons... I suspect the Guyver may have had some influence on the Striker Eureka design.

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Re: WCDT Strips 3001-3005 (13 to 17 July 2015)
« Reply #148 on: 16 Jul 2015, 22:25 »

i wonder if Bubbles will wind up a regular character

It'll prove interesting if she does.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3001-3005 (13 to 17 July 2015)
« Reply #149 on: 16 Jul 2015, 22:26 »

Man, the art is really off tonight. Especially those last two panels.
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