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Re: WCDT Strips 3006-3010 (20 to 24 July 2015)
« Reply #50 on: 21 Jul 2015, 01:22 »

I'm wondering who the target audience is.

Publicising this might set back the cause of AI rights quite a bit - various propaganda groups would have a field day. Especially with the spikes.

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Re: WCDT Strips 3006-3010 (20 to 24 July 2015)
« Reply #51 on: 21 Jul 2015, 01:54 »

I've been looking at Corpse Witch's face and I agree with some guys on the Subreddit that it looks a little odd. I think the problem is that Jeph drew it as looking like a rigid metal or plastic plate but the features are too mobile. I wonder if she has a flexible and stretchy latex sheath over a more skeletal endoskeleton, the movements of which controls the appearance of her features, much like contemporary RL animatronics.

It's interesting that the battleAIs need to hire someone like Faye. Granted she has metalsmithing experience, but apparently they can't simply upload (or download, whichever) any skillset they need, the way the "unplugged" could do in The Matrix.

Or, maybe they just would rather not do the pounding and welding and spike-adding stuff themselves.

Or they enjoy the irony of the made (themselves) having makers (humans) as their servants (if well paid and extremely valued servants). I wonder if Faye will enjoy being ordered around by uppity fighting bots who want the 'Squishy' to grab them a can of 40-weight, set up the charger rack before she has a bathroom break or clean up that hydraulic fluid spill. Faye as a victim of racism in the workplace?
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Re: WCDT Strips 3006-3010 (20 to 24 July 2015)
« Reply #52 on: 21 Jul 2015, 02:09 »

I suppose "squishy" is more polite than "meatbag".
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« Reply #53 on: 21 Jul 2015, 02:29 »

"The Cars That Ate Paris"

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Re: WCDT Strips 3006-3010 (20 to 24 July 2015)
« Reply #54 on: 21 Jul 2015, 03:18 »

Or a Tesla Coil. That'd be neat.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3006-3010 (20 to 24 July 2015)
« Reply #55 on: 21 Jul 2015, 05:26 »

Today's comic made me wonder how AIs get their names. Do they pick them themselves? As they don't really have a helpless baby intellectual stage the way humans do it seems plausible.

Basically I'm wondering if Bubbles and Corpse Witch were named before or after becoming a robot death fighter and a robot death fighter manager. Bubbles seems the sort of name you'd pick when you are young and silly with your life before you and don't realise it will include being a fighter in an underground robot fighting ring, while Corpse Witch is utterly perfect for the manager of an underground robot fighting ring.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3006-3010 (20 to 24 July 2015)
« Reply #56 on: 21 Jul 2015, 05:33 »

'Bubbles' seems like the sort of name a silly person would choose for a pet, which makes me wonder what her first chassis was like. Quite possibly Bubbles was a companion-AnthroPC and had a Chibi-bot chassis like Momo's original.

I'm thinking that 'Corpse Witch' is what the other robots call her. Her real name and designation is... none of your business. I wouldn't be surprised if she powers down her IFF transponder and send all her WiFi signals through several proxies to make it harder to ascertain her real identity. Her nom de crime is probably a reference (partly admiring and partly horrified) to her ability to make a profit from violence and pain. I could see CW being a bit of a marginal figure amongst the fighting AIs and their associates, feared, admired and maybe even hated to a certain degree, for her business acumen and her iron grip on her 'business'.

In other words, the same sort of personality that a human who managed an illegal cage-fighting ring would need.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3006-3010 (20 to 24 July 2015)
« Reply #57 on: 21 Jul 2015, 05:44 »

I love the "ow" in that frame.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3006-3010 (20 to 24 July 2015)
« Reply #58 on: 21 Jul 2015, 06:07 »

I think the real question would be would she make them permanent or not. Removable would be better to keep things hidden, but would make them weaker in a fight. There's also the question of where would the spikes be and how much damage would they be expected to make.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3006-3010 (20 to 24 July 2015)
« Reply #59 on: 21 Jul 2015, 06:24 »

One [TECH] reason (not the reason, but just to demonstrate plausibility) would be that an AI neural net can't simply bolt on a different neural net and take off. Each network is self-organized and has a unique map of itself and its chassis. While it is relatively easy to remap the chassis map to something that is essentially the same shape (Momo's new body) becoming a fighter plane, or a dog, or a skilled welder, requires translating existing maps to the different hardware, and that requires training the neural net on how this works. That is, practice. In such a scheme, Momo would have had to practice being several times her previous size, and be comparatively clumsy, if not noticeably so.

Is it possible that there's even several levels of neural net, and May's is actually developed as a fighter jet neural net, with adaptations so she can function in a humanoid chassis, but it's not her "native" chassis (she has to run her fighter jet-native neural net in an emulator that she's constructed around herself, possibly)?

(There's precedence for this in humans, re: body maps not matching up with the body that some people are installed in - body integrity identity disorder comes to mind, among other disorders...)
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Re: WCDT Strips 3006-3010 (20 to 24 July 2015)
« Reply #60 on: 21 Jul 2015, 06:29 »

If I am remembering correctly, May didn't have a name when she first appeared in Dale's life. She had him pick one for her, and decided to keep it. But we know that May had been in existence for a while. Long enough to have access to large amounts of money and decide to steal it to become a jet plane. And we know from a previous conversation with Momo that AIs, at least Anthro ones, don't 'think faster' than humans do. So May had to have been around for a while, long enough that you would think she had a name.

One theory could be that AIs take names to better interact with humans. So those who don't regularly interact may not use names in a traditional human sense. They might just have some identification code. Possibly an explanation why Momo immediately knew May was a prisoner in AI jail? She saw the ID code and recognized the appended part that marked May as a prisoner. All that said, AIs may take names to fit in with their partners, or by their own wishes.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3006-3010 (20 to 24 July 2015)
« Reply #61 on: 21 Jul 2015, 09:10 »

My headcanon is that May had a name before she went to robojail... and then decided to leave it behind, because it was too associated with the  mistakes of her prior life and she wanted a new beginning.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3006-3010 (20 to 24 July 2015)
« Reply #62 on: 21 Jul 2015, 09:21 »

I like how this arc is giving Jeph the chance to stretch his character design muscles. The colour scheme of Corpse Witch makes me happy.

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« Reply #63 on: 21 Jul 2015, 09:24 »

I'm thinking that 'Corpse Witch' is what the other robots call her. Her real name and designation is... none of your business. I wouldn't be surprised if she powers down her IFF transponder and send all her WiFi signals through several proxies to make it harder to ascertain her real identity.

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Re: WCDT Strips 3006-3010 (20 to 24 July 2015)
« Reply #64 on: 21 Jul 2015, 10:34 »

Makes total sense, since Bubbles doesn't need an intimidating name - her large frame and strong plating are intimidating enough.

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« Reply #65 on: 21 Jul 2015, 10:47 »

Life ain't easy for a boy named Sue killbot named Bubbles.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3006-3010 (20 to 24 July 2015)
« Reply #66 on: 21 Jul 2015, 13:15 »

I'm wondering who the target audience is.

Publicising this might set back the cause of AI rights quite a bit - various propaganda groups would have a field day. Especially with the spikes.

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Re: WCDT Strips 3006-3010 (20 to 24 July 2015)
« Reply #67 on: 21 Jul 2015, 15:58 »

I think that this is one of those 'Illegal' sports that the Govt turns a blind eye to unless it becomes too much of a nuisance or irritation to the general public and more law abiding AI's
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Re: WCDT Strips 3006-3010 (20 to 24 July 2015)
« Reply #68 on: 21 Jul 2015, 18:18 »

Hmm, Faye concerned by the well-being of the bots was not something I expected.

For some reason, I read CW's lines at the end as if she was some calm mob capo or something like that.
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« Reply #69 on: 21 Jul 2015, 18:22 »

Don't know about Faye's first goal, but her second goal could be accomplished with some help from May...  :evil:
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Re: WCDT Strips 3006-3010 (20 to 24 July 2015)
« Reply #70 on: 21 Jul 2015, 18:25 »

I doubt May would really want to be a helicopter. They're pretty different to Fighter Jets. Maybe a VTOL?

Also, I just noticed that dedbot is called Higgs. I wonder if in the QCVerse he'll help find the Higgs Boson. Would be nice.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3006-3010 (20 to 24 July 2015)
« Reply #71 on: 21 Jul 2015, 18:33 »

Of course, the real money isn't made by the bots who do the actual fighting. It's made by gambling on the fights. That's probably the illegal part of the whole deal.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3006-3010 (20 to 24 July 2015)
« Reply #72 on: 21 Jul 2015, 18:36 »

I envision fan artists hard at work as we speak, for new material arises: Faye with three tits and a helicopter.  It will be glorious.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3006-3010 (20 to 24 July 2015)
« Reply #73 on: 21 Jul 2015, 18:41 »

...I wasn't expecting Corpse Witch to have an ethical objection to her business.  It's not a very strong one, but still, it's like hearing "in a perfect world, there'd be no boxing" from Mickey.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3006-3010 (20 to 24 July 2015)
« Reply #74 on: 21 Jul 2015, 18:48 »

Lots of people have "in a perfect world" ethical views of their business. They don't necessarily object to their business on that ground. They just acknowledge that their business would not exist if not for the vice.
 
For ex, I'm sure you could get Lockheed Martin execs to say that there'd be no need for their weapon systems in a perfect world. I bet very few lose any sleep over the people those weapons kill.

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Re: WCDT Strips 3006-3010 (20 to 24 July 2015)
« Reply #75 on: 21 Jul 2015, 18:50 »

WHYYYYYY would anyone want 3 tits? In this society, you'd be labelled a freak for it.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3006-3010 (20 to 24 July 2015)
« Reply #76 on: 21 Jul 2015, 18:56 »

So, if her pay is under the table, would it still be beneficial for Faye to claim it on her income tax? The government might get suspicious  if she has a long period of no work, no EI claims, and so forth. Maybe she could start her own "company" and claim it as "freelance metalwork for a private individual" or something.
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« Reply #77 on: 21 Jul 2015, 19:08 »

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Re: WCDT Strips 3006-3010 (20 to 24 July 2015)
« Reply #78 on: 21 Jul 2015, 19:12 »

I doubt May would really want to be a helicopter. They're pretty different to Fighter Jets. Maybe a VTOL?

Also, I just noticed that dedbot is called Higgs. I wonder if in the QCVerse he'll help find the Higgs Boson. Would be nice.

Or maybe Boson is his tag team partner  :-P


So, if her pay is under the table, would it still be beneficial for Faye to claim it on her income tax? The government might get suspicious  if she has a long period of no work, no EI claims, and so forth. Maybe she could start her own "company" and claim it as "freelance metalwork for a private individual" or something.


Unless they pay her by check and leave a papertrail of some sort, then she'd be perfectly fine. Cash isn't traceable, and as St.Clair pointed out, the gov probably only cares if you're blatantly working the system.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3006-3010 (20 to 24 July 2015)
« Reply #79 on: 21 Jul 2015, 19:15 »

I doubt May would really want to be a helicopter. They're pretty different to Fighter Jets. Maybe a VTOL?

Also, I just noticed that dedbot is called Higgs. I wonder if in the QCVerse he'll help find the Higgs Boson. Would be nice.

Or maybe Boson is his tag team partner  :-P


But who would Higgs-Boson fight?
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Re: WCDT Strips 3006-3010 (20 to 24 July 2015)
« Reply #80 on: 21 Jul 2015, 19:28 »

I doubt May would really want to be a helicopter. They're pretty different to Fighter Jets. Maybe a VTOL?

Also, I just noticed that dedbot is called Higgs. I wonder if in the QCVerse he'll help find the Higgs Boson. Would be nice.

Or maybe Boson is his tag team partner  :-P


So, if her pay is under the table, would it still be beneficial for Faye to claim it on her income tax? The government might get suspicious  if she has a long period of no work, no EI claims, and so forth. Maybe she could start her own "company" and claim it as "freelance metalwork for a private individual" or something.


Unless they pay her by check and leave a papertrail of some sort, then she'd be perfectly fine. Cash isn't traceable, and as St.Clair pointed out, the gov probably only cares if you're blatantly working the system.


I suppose if you aren't costing them anything. And it would make tax filing easier if there is just a bunch of zeroes.
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« Reply #81 on: 21 Jul 2015, 19:34 »

So, if her pay is under the table, would it still be beneficial for Faye to claim it on her income tax? The government might get suspicious  if she has a long period of no work, no EI claims, and so forth. Maybe she could start her own "company" and claim it as "freelance metalwork for a private individual" or something.

As Scarface learned the hard way, don't fuck with the IRS, especially not where your primary income's concerned.  Just put it under "other income" and hope to stay under their radar.  As a matter of policy, they don't start digging unless they think they're not getting all of it, and even then they can't turn over what they find unless you're already being investigated.
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« Reply #82 on: 21 Jul 2015, 19:56 »

So, if her pay is under the table, would it still be beneficial for Faye to claim it on her income tax? The government might get suspicious  if she has a long period of no work, no EI claims, and so forth. Maybe she could start her own "company" and claim it as "freelance metalwork for a private individual" or something.
The private individual better file a 1099 if the amount of compensation is over 1K. Both contractor and the one that hires her can get in major IRS trouble otherwise.

Maybe Faye can buy a car wash to launder the profits.
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« Reply #83 on: 21 Jul 2015, 20:01 »

Unless they pay her by check and leave a papertrail of some sort, then she'd be perfectly fine. Cash isn't traceable, and as St.Clair pointed out, the gov probably only cares if you're blatantly working the system.

Lots of ways you can get in very bad trouble for large cash transactions. If you attempt to deposit large quantities of cash in a bank, they have to report it to the IRS, who will want to know where you got it. If you try to split your cash into smaller amounts to keep them from asking, this is called "structuring," and people go to jail for it. For real.
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« Reply #84 on: 21 Jul 2015, 20:03 »

Why does Faye's perfect world include a third tit?  Is this tit in an unexpected place?
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« Reply #85 on: 21 Jul 2015, 20:35 »

Well, it's certainly not wherever the extra dongs go...
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« Reply #86 on: 21 Jul 2015, 21:11 »

I was unaware Faye wanted to be the chick from Total Recall.
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« Reply #87 on: 21 Jul 2015, 22:43 »

So, if her pay is under the table, would it still be beneficial for Faye to claim it on her income tax? The government might get suspicious  if she has a long period of no work, no EI claims, and so forth. Maybe she could start her own "company" and claim it as "freelance metalwork for a private individual" or something.
The private individual better file a 1099 if the amount of compensation is over 1K. Both contractor and the one that hires her can get in major IRS trouble otherwise.

Maybe Faye can buy a car wash to launder the profits.

Huh. I just assumed it was much like selling stuff - Amazon doesn't even give me tax documents for, I think it's anything under $20k total earnings per year either/or 200 transactions in a year.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3006-3010 (20 to 24 July 2015)
« Reply #88 on: 21 Jul 2015, 22:45 »

Why does Faye's perfect world include a third tit?  Is this tit in an unexpected place?
I can think of a reason but it seems out of character for Faye, and for the comic. And having been reprimanded for a perfectly harmless joke about Marigold, I'm not going to put it here.
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« Reply #89 on: 21 Jul 2015, 23:03 »

Harmlessness is in the eye of the beholder. Or, in this case, the guy who pays for the site. As I once said with regard to another commenter on the subject, "Jeph can pee in his own sink, if he wants. He can draw dongs on the walls of his house, if he so chooses. You can't." You're a guest and the guest rules are "no peeing in the sinks or drawing dongs on the walls."

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« Reply #90 on: 21 Jul 2015, 23:20 »

It's kind of depressing seeing AIs ape the worst of human behavior, including self-deceit. Corpse Witch is likely telling the truth about their being no overt coercion. However, she also admits that her fighters may not be able to get work elsewhere; so there is a subtle coercion there -'Fight or be destitute'. Exploitation of the desperate is an old, old tactic for the unethical business-being. It is the basis for sweatshops and exploitation worldwide.

Yeah, I don't like CW in the slightest.

It's too early to wonder where this may go in the long run. However, if Bubbles is an ex-companion AnthroPC, I can see her and Faye ending up as room-mates, although the path to that point would be complex.

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as if the government gives a **** about the long-term unemployed.

They care if you suddenly stop paying tax; that's practically the only thing that they care about. If Faye is officially unemployed and yet isn't receiving state support, some bureaucrat may get suspicious enough to investigate!

Why does Faye's perfect world include a third tit?  Is this tit in an unexpected place?

Yeah, I think that you'll find that Faye was using humorous exaggeration for emphasis.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3006-3010 (20 to 24 July 2015)
« Reply #91 on: 21 Jul 2015, 23:30 »

I can't help but think that Corpse Witch kind of evaded a question: does anyone get hurt (i.e. suffer pain)?
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Re: WCDT Strips 3006-3010 (20 to 24 July 2015)
« Reply #92 on: 21 Jul 2015, 23:36 »

Hmm.

I dont get what the point of a third boob would be.  :?

And Faye cant really complain about the boobs god/nature/the flying spaghetti monster/the force/whatever else you wanna believe in has given her.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3006-3010 (20 to 24 July 2015)
« Reply #93 on: 21 Jul 2015, 23:40 »

The point of a third boob is that there's three of them now. More boobs = yay yay happy fun times.

Duh.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3006-3010 (20 to 24 July 2015)
« Reply #94 on: 21 Jul 2015, 23:53 »

May isn't involved in this operation already?

Secondly, Faye wants to be Eccentrica Gallumbits?
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Re: WCDT Strips 3006-3010 (20 to 24 July 2015)
« Reply #95 on: 22 Jul 2015, 00:11 »

May isn't involved in this operation already?

Well, she really shouldn't be involved in anything illegal right now...
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Re: WCDT Strips 3006-3010 (20 to 24 July 2015)
« Reply #96 on: 22 Jul 2015, 00:13 »

CW's explanation paints a pretty bleak picture: obsolete fighter/security/military robots don't have the money to change chassis into something more useful, like a companion, and no legal way of making that money.

Perhaps there are charities meant to help them with that? Perhaps Clinton could get involved. Would be a good way for character development for him.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3006-3010 (20 to 24 July 2015)
« Reply #97 on: 22 Jul 2015, 01:13 »

Most screwball storyline we've had in a while. I can dig it.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3006-3010 (20 to 24 July 2015)
« Reply #98 on: 22 Jul 2015, 01:21 »

CW's explanation paints a pretty bleak picture: obsolete fighter/security/military robots don't have the money to change chassis into something more useful, like a companion, and no legal way of making that money.

She tries to soft-soap it as a lifestyle choice but I'm not sure that I buy that.

Perhaps there are charities meant to help them with that? Perhaps Clinton could get involved. Would be a good way for character development for him.

Unlikely. Although the QC-verse seems to be fairly enlightened in terms of civil rights, remember how long it's been and still similar laws regarding race and gender in the real world are not really reflected in society as a whole. I'm pretty sure that there is a significant subsection of the population that still regard AIs as vacuum cleaners with ideas above their station. Any charity to help them would be facing an enormous uphill struggle just not to be a target of reactionary politicians and grass-roots hate campaigns.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3006-3010 (20 to 24 July 2015)
« Reply #99 on: 22 Jul 2015, 02:00 »

Hmm.

I dont get what the point of a third boob would be.  :?

The nipple.
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