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Author Topic: WCDT Strips 3136 to 3140 (18th to 22nd January 2015)  (Read 40620 times)

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Re: WCDT Strips 3136 to 3140 (18th to 22nd January 2015)
« Reply #200 on: 21 Jan 2016, 18:26 »

On a different note: Would it be weird if Faye walks into CoD - and no one recognizes her?
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Re: WCDT Strips 3136 to 3140 (18th to 22nd January 2015)
« Reply #201 on: 21 Jan 2016, 18:27 »

Comic's up.

I was right about the black trenchcoat.

Also, "You look like a big muscular person in a coat. 'Cause that's what you are." Bravo, Faye.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3136 to 3140 (18th to 22nd January 2015)
« Reply #202 on: 21 Jan 2016, 18:36 »

I think red would have suited her better

But she doesn't look half bad in that one either
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Re: WCDT Strips 3136 to 3140 (18th to 22nd January 2015)
« Reply #203 on: 21 Jan 2016, 19:00 »

"But I wanted to look like Carmen Miranda!"

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Re: WCDT Strips 3136 to 3140 (18th to 22nd January 2015)
« Reply #204 on: 21 Jan 2016, 19:09 »

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Re: WCDT Strips 3136 to 3140 (18th to 22nd January 2015)
« Reply #205 on: 21 Jan 2016, 19:17 »

Bubbles looks like she's about to execute a Mafia hit. If she's trying to be less intimidating, I think she missed the mark a little.

She could humanize it a bit with a long scarf. Or she could go the full badass and do a fedora and a black leather duster. She'd look magnificent.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3136 to 3140 (18th to 22nd January 2015)
« Reply #206 on: 21 Jan 2016, 19:21 »

She's Chiquita Banana and she's here to say bananas need to ripen in a certain way.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3136 to 3140 (18th to 22nd January 2015)
« Reply #207 on: 21 Jan 2016, 20:42 »

Y'know Bubbs, if the coats didn't fit over yer armour, there's a way round that...
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Re: WCDT Strips 3136 to 3140 (18th to 22nd January 2015)
« Reply #208 on: 21 Jan 2016, 21:09 »

Comic's up.

I was right about the black trenchcoat.

Also, "You look like a big muscular person in a coat. 'Cause that's what you are." Bravo, Faye.

That line is progress for Faye as well as a great example of acceptance in its own right.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3136 to 3140 (18th to 22nd January 2015)
« Reply #209 on: 21 Jan 2016, 21:22 »

Also, "You look like a big muscular person in a coat. 'Cause that's what you are." Bravo, Faye.
Just so. Maybe it's the colour of Bubbles' chassis (body?), but my first reaction was that she was rocking the "Kremlin guard" look. So an ushanka rather than a hat made of fruit would be the thing.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3136 to 3140 (18th to 22nd January 2015)
« Reply #210 on: 21 Jan 2016, 22:50 »

If Bubbles' coat isn't bright pink with fluffy bunnies on it, I'm going to be crushingly disappointed.  :cry:

So sorry for your disappointment. But wouldn't pink would have clashed horribly with her coloring, anyway?


Faye: Now if you were wearin' a hat made of fruit, that would look ridiculous.

Yeah, because everybody knows fruit hats look... um...

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Oh, dear... um... how do we tell him?  :oops:
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Re: WCDT Strips 3136 to 3140 (18th to 22nd January 2015)
« Reply #211 on: 21 Jan 2016, 23:25 »

This strip teaches us just one thing: That, somewhere, Jeph has a picture of Bubbles in said fruit hat. Don't ask why, I just know that he does!

Now, I wonder how long Fay e has been Bubbles' social courage?
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Re: WCDT Strips 3136 to 3140 (18th to 22nd January 2015)
« Reply #212 on: 21 Jan 2016, 23:26 »

While not ridiculous, neither is that coat particularly flattering. I think she needs something in a color that'll contrast better against her paintjob.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3136 to 3140 (18th to 22nd January 2015)
« Reply #213 on: 21 Jan 2016, 23:41 »

While not ridiculous, neither is that coat particularly flattering. I think she needs something in a color that'll contrast better against her paintjob.

Olive maybe. I have zero ability to visualise colours on people, though.

I imagine she went for grey because of a desire to fly under the radar (even though that's next to impossible for her).
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Re: WCDT Strips 3136 to 3140 (18th to 22nd January 2015)
« Reply #214 on: 21 Jan 2016, 23:45 »

That shade of red is screaming to have a navy blue colour scheme. Or a dark olive. Grey is so... bleugh here.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3136 to 3140 (18th to 22nd January 2015)
« Reply #215 on: 21 Jan 2016, 23:46 »

It just occurred to me that she probably didn't have much of a choice.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3136 to 3140 (18th to 22nd January 2015)
« Reply #216 on: 22 Jan 2016, 00:28 »

It just occurred to me that she probably didn't have much of a choice.

I think Big & Tall shops on the internet would have more of a choice - even if this is about 10-11 years ago.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3136 to 3140 (18th to 22nd January 2015)
« Reply #217 on: 22 Jan 2016, 00:50 »

This strip teaches us just one thing: That, somewhere, Jeph has a picture of Bubbles in said fruit hat. Don't ask why, I just know that he does!

Now, I wonder how long Fay e has been Bubbles' social courage?

As Jeph was doing doodles on the progress of the time skip in Faye's side of the story, he made a costume party on the URFL for the halloween extravaganza. Bubbles appeared with said fruit hat. Nobody else knows exactly how she looks, but Jeph knows.

Now back to topic, I like Faye's attitude here. First off, there's nothing negative (or at least outrageously negative, I know some of you don't like the color) about Bubbles' outfit, so why would she comment on it. There's also nothing outrageously positive. It's just a casual outfit that would've been approached without much fuzz by anyone. The fact that Bubbles sees this as an attack to her appearance implies that she's felt ridiculous on several occasions, which is a bit sad.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3136 to 3140 (18th to 22nd January 2015)
« Reply #218 on: 22 Jan 2016, 01:15 »

Here's a thought though: We know that Bubbles can remove her armour if she wants to, yet she doesn't. She even has to go to the trouble of buying an outsize coat to fit over it. Something tells me that Bubbles has many, many fears from which she needs the psychological protection that armour plate give her.

Poor Bubbles is still so defensive though; so easily feeling out-of-place, or being judged, even when she isn't. It's a sad thing that she assumes Faye's surprise means that she hates the coat and is embarrassed by Bubbles' presence next to her. I suppose it will be a long time before such an affliction can be cured, if it ever can.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3136 to 3140 (18th to 22nd January 2015)
« Reply #219 on: 22 Jan 2016, 01:33 »

Bubbles' only real social connections before this were with her military unit. All she really knows of socializing comes from that. I imagine anything outside that context is uncomfortable and confusing for her. The armor also serves as a reminder/connection to her dead family.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3136 to 3140 (18th to 22nd January 2015)
« Reply #220 on: 22 Jan 2016, 03:04 »

I'm curious, and not that I want to give Bubbles any more reason to be neurotic about how she's perceived by others, but has she always walked that way?  And by that I mean, right foot and right hand forward, then (presumably) left foot and left hand forward?

I mean she's not doing it in panel 3, but by then she's upset and focused on going home, and not actually overthinking about how she appears to others.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3136 to 3140 (18th to 22nd January 2015)
« Reply #221 on: 22 Jan 2016, 04:15 »

So I know the armor is removable, but once she puts the coat on you realize she's kind of naked underneath it.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3136 to 3140 (18th to 22nd January 2015)
« Reply #222 on: 22 Jan 2016, 04:16 »

Personally, I think that she might look good in a muscle shirt, jeans and combat boots.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3136 to 3140 (18th to 22nd January 2015)
« Reply #223 on: 22 Jan 2016, 04:17 »

Indeed.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3136 to 3140 (18th to 22nd January 2015)
« Reply #224 on: 22 Jan 2016, 04:17 »

Also, I suspect removing the armor requires a fair amount of time and the assistance of someone with a pneumatic wrench. It's not something one does lightly.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3136 to 3140 (18th to 22nd January 2015)
« Reply #225 on: 22 Jan 2016, 09:39 »

But ... military. It would be designed for quick field repairs if possible. Not to mention that all she needs is a data cable to get out of her armor and into a less intimidating body.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3136 to 3140 (18th to 22nd January 2015)
« Reply #226 on: 22 Jan 2016, 09:45 »

But maybe she likes her body, just not how others react to it. Or she had to jump through hoops to keep it after retiring from military service, and perhaps she would have to sign a bundle of paperwork if she stopped using it. Armies like knowing where their high grade equipment is and how it's being used.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3136 to 3140 (18th to 22nd January 2015)
« Reply #227 on: 22 Jan 2016, 10:08 »

But maybe she likes her body, just not how others react to it.

I like this notion. Even for mechanical people capable of switching chassis, the body you are currently occupying makes up part of your self identity. She likes her body, she should not have to change it to gain acceptance.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3136 to 3140 (18th to 22nd January 2015)
« Reply #228 on: 22 Jan 2016, 11:24 »

all she needs is a data cable to get out of her armor and into a less intimidating body.

I can't help thinking that if it was that easy, the AnthroPCs would all be swapping chassis on a daily basis like a change of clothing, and collecting several chassis of their own  if they could afford it.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3136 to 3140 (18th to 22nd January 2015)
« Reply #229 on: 22 Jan 2016, 11:42 »

It isn't that easy. Remember when Momo changed her chassis, there were lots of software conflicts that a technician at the shop had to rectify. I suppose it's like when you do significant component swaps on your PC - The drivers have to be changed and updated; some software has to be reinstalled because the settings required for the new hardware are different.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3136 to 3140 (18th to 22nd January 2015)
« Reply #230 on: 22 Jan 2016, 11:46 »

Who is to say that some of them don't? I don't think that is the way it works though. Momo was able to test out her new body by having it connected to her old body via cable, but that's different than copying her mind over. Chassis are not cheap either, and job opportunities for AIs may not be that great yet, so those able to afford multiple bodies seem like a limited group. And finally there is the point that having multiple bodies is problematic from a personal and a legal aspect. People can get mixed up and not recognize others if they've changed their hairstyle. Imagine if you could change everything about yourself. Different color, shape, size, gender everything... all on a whim? And imagine an AI criminal. A robot robs a bank, steals a bunch of money. Leaves no DNA or fingerprints obviously, so people get a physical description. To bad that body's already been discarded three blocks away and Pintsize is toddling back to the apartment to give a vague and sexually explicit comment about how he spends his time when he's out...
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Re: WCDT Strips 3136 to 3140 (18th to 22nd January 2015)
« Reply #231 on: 22 Jan 2016, 15:06 »

Indeed

I can't remember if it was mentioned how much it cost for Marigold to pay for Momo's Body Upgrade when she got it for Momo, but I'm guessing it wasn't cheap. 
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Re: WCDT Strips 3136 to 3140 (18th to 22nd January 2015)
« Reply #232 on: 22 Jan 2016, 15:10 »

I think it was mentioned that it was comparable to a car.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3136 to 3140 (18th to 22nd January 2015)
« Reply #233 on: 22 Jan 2016, 15:17 »

The price of Momo's upgrade wasn't mentioned, but the PX-3500 is $30,000.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3136 to 3140 (18th to 22nd January 2015)
« Reply #234 on: 22 Jan 2016, 15:26 »

Oh, that's why I thought "price of a car", because it's made by fucking Mitsubishi.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3136 to 3140 (18th to 22nd January 2015)
« Reply #235 on: 22 Jan 2016, 15:34 »

Bubbles is a pair of sunglasses away from being an excellent Matrix or Bond villain.
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« Reply #236 on: 22 Jan 2016, 15:39 »

The price of Momo's upgrade wasn't mentioned, but the PX-3500 is $30,000.

I'm thinking that that's a 'Top Of The Range' model body, kinda like the Ferrari or Lamborghini of AnthroPC body models.  The one Momo has is probably mid range, which, though probably still expensive, would probably fall into a lower range of pricing more in line with a mid range cheaper model car price.
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« Reply #237 on: 22 Jan 2016, 17:34 »

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Re: WCDT Strips 3136 to 3140 (18th to 22nd January 2015)
« Reply #238 on: 22 Jan 2016, 18:54 »

Bubbles' only real social connections before this were with her military unit. All she really knows of socializing comes from that. I imagine anything outside that context is uncomfortable and confusing for her. The armor also serves as a reminder/connection to her dead family.

In her way, it's like the traditional military toast: "To absent friends"
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Re: WCDT Strips 3136 to 3140 (18th to 22nd January 2015)
« Reply #239 on: 23 Jan 2016, 11:35 »

I wonder if Faye's told Bubbles why she and Dora aren't friends.

Also I'm wondering if Faye's on the "make amends" step of her 12 step program.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3136 to 3140 (18th to 22nd January 2015)
« Reply #240 on: 23 Jan 2016, 12:21 »

... it's made by fucking Mitsubishi.

... so biological and mechanical processes are involved, then?
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Re: WCDT Strips 3136 to 3140 (18th to 22nd January 2015)
« Reply #241 on: 23 Jan 2016, 12:40 »

Much like Hanners' Roomba, and the mating habits thereof.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3136 to 3140 (18th to 22nd January 2015)
« Reply #242 on: 23 Jan 2016, 12:43 »

I wonder if Faye's told Bubbles why she and Dora aren't friends.

Also I'm wondering if Faye's on the "make amends" step of her 12 step program.

I don't think it's a case of them no longer being friends, it's more a case of both of them avoiding each other since things went down and Faye left CoD.  Faye wasn't ready to have 'The Talk' with Dora, and Dora felt, and sitll probably does feel, bad about having to fire Faye, especially after Faye wound up in Hospital after hitting rock bottom.

It will be interesting to see what happens now that Faye has decided to return to CoD after all these months.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3136 to 3140 (18th to 22nd January 2015)
« Reply #243 on: 23 Jan 2016, 16:45 »

I'd been marking out that Bubbles never removes her armor too; in fact I was surprised when it came out in-story that she could.

Since then I've been wondering if she's hiding some unrepaired combat damage under it. And whether she has been, for years.

Survivor's guilt is a hell of a thing.  I know some guys who didn't seek medical treatment because they felt that they'd betrayed the dead and needed to suffer for it.  Not that they understood that until they'd been going to therapy at the VA for a while.

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Re: WCDT Strips 3136 to 3140 (18th to 22nd January 2015)
« Reply #244 on: 23 Jan 2016, 19:37 »

I wonder if Faye's told Bubbles why she and Dora aren't friends.

Also I'm wondering if Faye's on the "make amends" step of her 12 step program.

As I recall, Faye purposely avoided AA, which is what is usually known for its 12-step program. Therefore, her therapy group likely doesn't have that program.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3136 to 3140 (18th to 22nd January 2015)
« Reply #245 on: 26 Jan 2016, 22:19 »

I'd been marking out that Bubbles never removes her armor too; in fact I was surprised when it came out in-story that she could.

Since then I've been wondering if she's hiding some unrepaired combat damage under it. And whether she has been, for years.

Survivor's guilt is a hell of a thing.  I know some guys who didn't seek medical treatment because they felt that they'd betrayed the dead and needed to suffer for it.  Not that they understood that until they'd been going to therapy at the VA for a while.

The damage doesn't need to be physical.  I think Bubbles may be dealing with an AI's version of PTSD.  Her coping mechanisms are strikingly similar to many vets; wearing bits of the uniform, avoiding social interactions with "civilians", working in the underground economy... if she could self-medicate, she probably would. 
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Re: WCDT Strips 3136 to 3140 (18th to 22nd January 2015)
« Reply #246 on: 26 Jan 2016, 23:47 »

It was back in the early days of the strip and may no longer be canon, but Pintsize and friends used mind-altering software. More recently, May's underclocking seemed to have a similar effect.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3136 to 3140 (18th to 22nd January 2015)
« Reply #247 on: 27 Jan 2016, 00:37 »

It was back in the early days of the strip and may no longer be canon, but Pintsize and friends used mind-altering software. More recently, May's underclocking seemed to have a similar effect.

Actually those were just new video drivers, if it's the same strip I'm thinking of.
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