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Re: WCDT Strips 3151 to 3155 (8 - 12 February 2016)
« Reply #50 on: 09 Feb 2016, 07:38 »

I've never been through the Massachusetts Ritual (in fact, I've never been to Massachusetts), but I can confirm that the Wisconsin Ritual is not particularly suited for the lactose-intolerant.  :psyduck:

Nor the alcohol-intolerant, and especially not the bratwurst-intolerant.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3151 to 3155 (8 - 12 February 2016)
« Reply #51 on: 09 Feb 2016, 07:39 »

The difficult thing about the reanimated frog exam is convincing the professor your frog really does put on a top hat and sing "Ragtime Gal."

Specially when, even if it actually does, the professor for some reason loathes that song.

Am I missing something?
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Re: WCDT Strips 3151 to 3155 (8 - 12 February 2016)
« Reply #52 on: 09 Feb 2016, 07:41 »

Okay, Hammerspace hair is cool for Claire, but for heaven's sake, a grad asst. wouldn't be grading papers with a BLACK sharpie. 

Not even after THE RITUAL.

Red or dead.

It was a red Sharpie when she put it in there (thair?) for later. The Hair Will Not Be Upstaged.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3151 to 3155 (8 - 12 February 2016)
« Reply #53 on: 09 Feb 2016, 07:56 »

The difficult thing about the reanimated frog exam is convincing the professor your frog really does put on a top hat and sing "Ragtime Gal."

Specially when, even if it actually does, the professor for some reason loathes that song.

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Re: WCDT Strips 3151 to 3155 (8 - 12 February 2016)
« Reply #54 on: 09 Feb 2016, 07:57 »

The difficult thing about the reanimated frog exam is convincing the professor your frog really does put on a top hat and sing "Ragtime Gal."

Specially when, even if it actually does, the professor for some reason loathes that song.

Am I missing something?

It's an old, old Loony Toon, pre-dating most if not all of the famous characters from the Warner Brothers animation studios. I think it was a sort of redress of an old Kipling- or Poe-written short morality story. Basically a penniless man finds a shoebox on his doorstep. Inside is a frog who puts on a top hat, dances and sing the 1920s hit song 'Ragtime Girl'. Certain that this is his ticket to fame and fortune, he decides to put the frog on Broadway. He easily impresses an agent with his pet's 'talent' and a show is arranged.

Unfortunately... the frog will not perform in front of crowds or even small groups. The agent is ruined and turns his anger on the poor man who loses what few possessions he has to cover the agent's losses. All he has left is that damn frog. Too broken even to seek revenge on the cursed creature, he simply leaves it on someone's doorstep in the same shoebox with the same despairing note that he had originally found on it: "I have nothing left except what you will find in this box; may it bring you better luck than it did me." So the cycle repeats.

It was the genius of the director of this short that the cartoon comes across as incredibly funny and you laugh at the moment of the agent's humiliation and the man's ruin. Yet... when you think about it... it's a horror story very much in the tradition of Poe with the protagonist in the end having nothing left but his life and cursing the fact that he has that much. Indeed, on repeat viewings, you can't help but wonder if, as the man shuffles off of the screen, he is now going to end his life as had all of the frog's previous keepers. Of course, in the tradition of Poe and Kipling, in the end the disaster was self-inflicted. If he'd just kept the frog as a pet or even if he'd killed the thing for what little sustenance it could give him for one day, he would not have been destroyed. His own greed and desperation for wealth led him to disaster.

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Re: WCDT Strips 3151 to 3155 (8 - 12 February 2016)
« Reply #55 on: 09 Feb 2016, 08:26 »

The title of the cartoon is "One Froggy Evening", and there are online videos of it here and there, easily findable by googling. It is indeed one of the greats. (By the way, it's not that old; it came out in 1955.)

Okay, that's old - a bit older than, say, "What's Opera, Doc?".
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Re: WCDT Strips 3151 to 3155 (8 - 12 February 2016)
« Reply #56 on: 09 Feb 2016, 09:14 »

Jeph could be planning a huge surprise and revealing that Faye does NOT live there anymore.

Expecting to find Faye living, rent-free, in Claire's poofy hair.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3151 to 3155 (8 - 12 February 2016)
« Reply #57 on: 09 Feb 2016, 09:47 »

My "missing something" was directed at Osaka's comment. Review your wall o'quotes again.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3151 to 3155 (8 - 12 February 2016)
« Reply #58 on: 09 Feb 2016, 10:36 »

Is it just me, or does Marten seem almost husband-like? He is even tossing out dad jokes. I've can't recall seeing him this comfortable around a girl.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3151 to 3155 (8 - 12 February 2016)
« Reply #59 on: 09 Feb 2016, 11:20 »

I would say that's a good thing. Humor is something that Marten and Claire enjoy together.... Even when they are telling real groaners. But none of the land mines we've seen with his previous girlfriends seem to be around. The difficulties they faced in the beginning have been dealt with. And they are comfortable and happy together. I'd call this good all around.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3151 to 3155 (8 - 12 February 2016)
« Reply #60 on: 09 Feb 2016, 11:29 »

Which means the shit's about to hit the fan.

(Or have I been reading too much of Willis' comics?  :roll: )
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Re: WCDT Strips 3151 to 3155 (8 - 12 February 2016)
« Reply #61 on: 09 Feb 2016, 12:03 »

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Re: WCDT Strips 3151 to 3155 (8 - 12 February 2016)
« Reply #62 on: 09 Feb 2016, 12:31 »

Which means the shit's about to hit the fan.

(Or have I been reading too much of Willis' comics?  :roll: )

I say it's about time a closed minded religious relative showed up.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3151 to 3155 (8 - 12 February 2016)
« Reply #63 on: 09 Feb 2016, 14:04 »

I have a more pressing worry about the QCverse.  Between Claire and Hanners, they have reached Peak Floof.  If consumption continues at its current pace, with no feasible increase in Floof production, shortages will give rise to unrest.  Emily seems to be the only one aware of this, but is unfortunately stuck in the role of a "weird" Cassandra Figure.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3151 to 3155 (8 - 12 February 2016)
« Reply #64 on: 09 Feb 2016, 14:07 »

Which means the shit's about to hit the fan.

(Or have I been reading too much of Willis' comics?  :roll: )

I say it's about time a closed minded religious relative showed up.

One such is known to exist, Faye's Aunt Betty.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3151 to 3155 (8 - 12 February 2016)
« Reply #65 on: 09 Feb 2016, 14:37 »

Which means the shit's about to hit the fan.

(Or have I been reading too much of Willis' comics?  ::) )

I say it's about time a closed minded religious relative showed up.

One such is known to exist, Faye's Aunt Betty.


Well, if she shows up, I hope she doesn't go the Ross Route.




This definitely indicates that Claire is now living with Marten to my mind.  The question is, is Faye still there or is she now living with Bubbles in the QC version of The Odd Couple?
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Re: WCDT Strips 3151 to 3155 (8 - 12 February 2016)
« Reply #66 on: 09 Feb 2016, 16:23 »

I kind of have a feeling that Bubbles doesn't have her own place - she just plugs in to recharge in a quiet corner of the "skate park".

As for Faye moving out: Faye and Marten sharing an apartment practically is QC. They've been living together since #22. Maybe Claire has moved in - or maybe she just spends a whole, whole lot of time there - but I'd be very surprised if Faye moved out without it being a major story line.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3151 to 3155 (8 - 12 February 2016)
« Reply #67 on: 09 Feb 2016, 16:53 »

Marten, the first rule of The Ritual is you do not talk about The Ritual.

Nothing good can come of this.  And nothing bad, either.  Just a cosmic 'meh'.

Does The Ritual have anything to do with the fact that you always see your next Dunkin Donuts before the last one disappears from your rear view mirror?  Did my brother make that up or did I read it somewhere?
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Re: WCDT Strips 3151 to 3155 (8 - 12 February 2016)
« Reply #68 on: 09 Feb 2016, 18:32 »

Okay, Hammerspace hair is cool for Claire, but for heaven's sake, a grad asst. wouldn't be grading papers with a BLACK sharpie. 

It looks like she's reaching clear inside her head, FLCL style.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3151 to 3155 (8 - 12 February 2016)
« Reply #69 on: 09 Feb 2016, 18:37 »

Does The Ritual have anything to do with the fact that you always see your next Dunkin Donuts before the last one disappears from your rear view mirror?  Did my brother make that up or did I read it somewhere?

I'll just say this: There are fifty-seven Dunkin Donuts locations within a 5-mile radius of my house. Or at least there were three years ago, last time I was bored enough to count them. Might be a couple more now.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3151 to 3155 (8 - 12 February 2016)
« Reply #70 on: 09 Feb 2016, 19:18 »

Still better coffee than starsucks.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3151 to 3155 (8 - 12 February 2016)
« Reply #71 on: 09 Feb 2016, 19:45 »

Ehhhh.

But yeah, Claire says "your landlord", meaning she does not yet live there.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3151 to 3155 (8 - 12 February 2016)
« Reply #72 on: 09 Feb 2016, 19:51 »

If Claire is going to take that much time in the shower, maybe she should switch to baths.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3151 to 3155 (8 - 12 February 2016)
« Reply #73 on: 09 Feb 2016, 19:55 »

A landlord plotline would be fun.  But the thought comes to mind that the landlord is likely going to turn out to be Hanners' mom.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3151 to 3155 (8 - 12 February 2016)
« Reply #74 on: 09 Feb 2016, 20:06 »

Ehhhh.

But yeah, Claire says "your landlord", meaning she does not yet live there.

Yet being the operative word here. They seem to be in that transitional phase between living apart and together.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3151 to 3155 (8 - 12 February 2016)
« Reply #75 on: 09 Feb 2016, 20:20 »

Well yeah, I don't think anyone doubts that, just that they didn't move in together offscreen.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3151 to 3155 (8 - 12 February 2016)
« Reply #76 on: 09 Feb 2016, 20:26 »

Claire should push to get a tankless water heater installed.

They could also move to Iceland, where hot water is a municipal service like cold water is. Geothermal heat is just that cheap there.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3151 to 3155 (8 - 12 February 2016)
« Reply #77 on: 09 Feb 2016, 20:30 »

The difficult thing about the reanimated frog exam is convincing the professor your frog really does put on a top hat and sing "Ragtime Gal."

Specially when, even if it actually does, the professor for some reason loathes that song.

Am I missing something?

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Re: WCDT Strips 3151 to 3155 (8 - 12 February 2016)
« Reply #78 on: 09 Feb 2016, 21:07 »

All these happy-domestic comics are making me feel lonely and depressed. Maybe I should get a cat.

Nah. Cat would hate me.  :grumpypuss:
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Re: WCDT Strips 3151 to 3155 (8 - 12 February 2016)
« Reply #79 on: 09 Feb 2016, 21:45 »

Hmmm... Well, something has been discovered today. Wet-hair Claire is even more adorable than poofy-hair Claire. It may take some time to adjust to this new information. I shall have to study these pages.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3151 to 3155 (8 - 12 February 2016)
« Reply #80 on: 09 Feb 2016, 23:19 »

while claire totally adorkable with wet hair my thoughts of cute shower claire were trounced by realizing that martin is wearing pink underwear. I dont know why but that jumped out at me.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3151 to 3155 (8 - 12 February 2016)
« Reply #81 on: 09 Feb 2016, 23:26 »

Marten is definitely enjoying his story spinning. 8-)

FWIW, it's odd but I don't think that we have ever seen the landlord! When Marten and Faye moved in, a nice lady from the realtors showed them around (strips 311-315) and warned them about the crazy vacuum cleaner lady, Hannelore. It's interesting that Marten isn't even sure about their gender. I wonder if Hannelore has more information about them? Could it be Juicy?

Yeah, from the way Claire says it, she hasn't moved in, although that might only be a formality about co-signing the lease. I also think that she's currently a bit too stressed out, given that she has a need to stand under a shower for an hour or two!
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Re: WCDT Strips 3151 to 3155 (8 - 12 February 2016)
« Reply #82 on: 10 Feb 2016, 00:36 »

Is it just me, or does Marten seem almost husband-like? He is even tossing out dad jokes.

Fun fact: "dad-jokes" have nothing to do with parental or marital status. That's just usually the point you stop caring about the social repercussions of telling them.

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Re: WCDT Strips 3151 to 3155 (8 - 12 February 2016)
« Reply #83 on: 10 Feb 2016, 01:59 »

Marten is wearing pink underwear. I dont know why but that jumped out at me.

He's been shown to favour pink or purple undies before.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3151 to 3155 (8 - 12 February 2016)
« Reply #84 on: 10 Feb 2016, 02:12 »

They seem to be more of a pale fuscia to me.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3151 to 3155 (8 - 12 February 2016)
« Reply #85 on: 10 Feb 2016, 03:15 »

Are you sure it isn't more of a puce?  :-D
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Re: WCDT Strips 3151 to 3155 (8 - 12 February 2016)
« Reply #86 on: 10 Feb 2016, 03:34 »

There is a lot to be said about the maturity and ease of Marten and Claire's relationship. They don't have the slightest problem being around each other naked or teasing each other about their jobs and the quality of their homes. This has come a long, long way from the very nervous young women and the man walking on eggshells around her and feeling that he has to keep continually reassuring her.

I'm trying to remember which of the ladies in Marten's life teased him about his wearing 'lightish red' boxers. It was Dora or Faye, IIRC.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3151 to 3155 (8 - 12 February 2016)
« Reply #87 on: 10 Feb 2016, 04:17 »

Need more conflict. Feel-good stuff is nice and all, but gets very samey very quickly.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3151 to 3155 (8 - 12 February 2016)
« Reply #88 on: 10 Feb 2016, 04:18 »

Needs more conflict.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3151 to 3155 (8 - 12 February 2016)
« Reply #89 on: 10 Feb 2016, 04:51 »

A landlord plotline would be fun.  But the thought comes to mind that the landlord is likely going to turn out to be Hanners' mom.

Darn,  my brain went straight to that thought as well.

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Re: WCDT Strips 3151 to 3155 (8 - 12 February 2016)
« Reply #90 on: 10 Feb 2016, 05:30 »

Can we please not do the Aunt Betty thing? One thing I love about Jeph's presentation of Claire is that she's treated just as a character, not as a trans character. A storyline built around her being trans would run counter to that, and would be hard for a lot of QC's trans fans to read, myself included.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3151 to 3155 (8 - 12 February 2016)
« Reply #91 on: 10 Feb 2016, 05:56 »

I sometimes yearn for the days when my 'landlord' was a faceless corporation I sent rent checks to and never otherwise interacted with, instead of what I currently have, which is one guy who's constantly up my ass about one thing or another. Then I realize that at least when something gets broken (say something really important like THE FRONT DOOR) he doesn't take three days to send someone to fix it like they did.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3151 to 3155 (8 - 12 February 2016)
« Reply #92 on: 10 Feb 2016, 05:57 »

Can we please not do the Aunt Betty thing? One thing I love about Jeph's presentation of Claire is that she's treated just as a character, not as a trans character. A storyline built around her being trans would run counter to that, and would be hard for a lot of QC's trans fans to read, myself included.

I must admit, looking at today's strip I just thought; "Man, these two would just have the cutest kid, wouldn't they?" and then that thought just drove right off a goddamn cliff. Because I do just see Claire as what she is; a woman who just so happens to be trans.

Also, there's always adoption, because I absolutely see Marten at one point wanting to be a Dad.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3151 to 3155 (8 - 12 February 2016)
« Reply #93 on: 10 Feb 2016, 06:13 »

Can we please not do the Aunt Betty thing? One thing I love about Jeph's presentation of Claire is that she's treated just as a character, not as a trans character. A storyline built around her being trans would run counter to that, and would be hard for a lot of QC's trans fans to read, myself included.

I really don't see this arc going there. What this is so far is an arc about Claire being Marten's girlfriend, period. He's just showing us where they are now, after the time-skip. And where they are now is in a good place. I have a feeling that they are going to stay in a good place - there will be some changes, to be sure, especially after Claire graduates and starts  job-hunting. But I don't see the relationship itself being a driver for drama any time soon.

Need more conflict. Feel-good stuff is nice and all, but gets very samey very quickly.

If it's drama you're looking for, look to Faye. She's in a better place than she was, but she still has a heap of unresolved issues to work through.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3151 to 3155 (8 - 12 February 2016)
« Reply #94 on: 10 Feb 2016, 06:49 »

What's Aunt Betty a reference to?
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Re: WCDT Strips 3151 to 3155 (8 - 12 February 2016)
« Reply #95 on: 10 Feb 2016, 06:55 »

I'm wondering what anybody else is seeing that I'm not that references anything about Claire being anything other than naked and in the shower and adorable.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3151 to 3155 (8 - 12 February 2016)
« Reply #96 on: 10 Feb 2016, 07:46 »

Can we please not do the Aunt Betty thing? One thing I love about Jeph's presentation of Claire is that she's treated just as a character, not as a trans character.

I entirely agree with that sentiment, but it seems very unlikely to happen.
Outside of Claire's family, we've never been shown that anyone except Marten and Emily even know Claire is trans.
(For all we know of course, they have been told, but are so cool about it that it doesn't ever need to be a topic of conversation)
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Re: WCDT Strips 3151 to 3155 (8 - 12 February 2016)
« Reply #98 on: 10 Feb 2016, 07:56 »

Ahh, right. Totally forgot Faye has a sister.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3151 to 3155 (8 - 12 February 2016)
« Reply #99 on: 10 Feb 2016, 08:13 »

There's a middle ground I think between going full Willis and never having it be a issue Claire has to deal with.

And Jeph certainly wouldn't go Aunt Betty, since he's super cautious writing about her being trans.
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