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Re: Alice Grove MCDLT - April 2016
« Reply #50 on: 06 Apr 2016, 16:16 »

Alice Grieve.
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Re: Alice Grove MCDLT - April 2016
« Reply #51 on: 06 Apr 2016, 20:30 »

Alice said she could inflict intolerable losses on the Praeses if they invaded.

Alice as much as told Sedna that the Night Walker might be able to kill her.

Was her remark to Sedna a flip one? If not, how is she puissant enough to fight a war? Are there hidden resources at her command?
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Re: Alice Grove MCDLT - April 2016
« Reply #52 on: 06 Apr 2016, 22:55 »

Fighting a disassociated cloud of molecule-sized robots is very different from fighting an army, even ones with nanotech powers. It requires a completely different approach. For example, you can't punch it, no matter how hard you hit things. The ability to defeat an invading army and the ability to stop a nanobot cloud require totally different skills and tools.
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Re: Alice Grove MCDLT - April 2016
« Reply #53 on: 06 Apr 2016, 23:07 »

If the invading army deploys a squad of nanotech clouds there might be an issue.
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Re: Alice Grove MCDLT - April 2016
« Reply #54 on: 06 Apr 2016, 23:16 »

From what Alice and Gavia said when the Night Walker was introduced, nanotech of that sort is no longer known about and certainly not produced as the means to do so may have been lost.
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Re: Alice Grove MCDLT - April 2016
« Reply #55 on: 07 Apr 2016, 00:42 »

"You can fly?!"

"No.  Jump good."

Also, to re-emphasise, I'm thinking that this volume will end with Alice tearing Gavia from the Night Walker's grasp before being hit by a huge electrostatic blast and blacking out. We'll then have a few weeks of tension trying to predict how badly she and Gavia have been hurt.

Other than the jumping bit, I'm favoring this analysis.
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Re: Alice Grove MCDLT - April 2016
« Reply #56 on: 07 Apr 2016, 06:56 »

There is also the scale of response that Alice can generate in each situation. Imagine if she has access to pre-Blink weaponry of mass destruction, either hidden away or as a last ditch 'spoil sport' final attack. If an army was invading from space she might well be willing to take out a huge chunk of the area to stop them. When trying to save a friend in the grips of an enemy, detonating a nuke-equivalent would not be the best course of action, generally.

Even setting that possibility aside,  it's quite likely that the Night Walker, made of billions or trillions of nanomachines could pose a threat in a different way than conventional weaponry could. Sure she can take an explosive anti-material rifle shell to the face and break the weapon with her bare hands after... That doesn't help if you're swarmed with a million tiny machines disassembling you molecule by molecule.
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Re: Alice Grove MCDLT - April 2016
« Reply #57 on: 07 Apr 2016, 10:01 »

When Alice said she could inflict significant losses, I assume she meant on the humans attacking, not necessarily on their nano-weapons. She never even implied she was well-equipped to fight nano's
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Re: Alice Grove MCDLT - April 2016
« Reply #58 on: 07 Apr 2016, 11:17 »

New strip up!

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Re: Alice Grove MCDLT - April 2016
« Reply #59 on: 07 Apr 2016, 11:25 »

Am I the only one who thought at first that she did pull the whole leg off, and that Gavia was disintegrating?
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Re: Alice Grove MCDLT - April 2016
« Reply #60 on: 07 Apr 2016, 11:35 »

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Re: Alice Grove MCDLT - April 2016
« Reply #61 on: 07 Apr 2016, 12:02 »

New strip up!

I know the comic link isn't perpetual, but it's better not to link directly to the image as that deprives Jeph of clicks on the site which contribute to his income.  Just say it's up (there's a link at the top of the page, after all), please.
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Re: Alice Grove MCDLT - April 2016
« Reply #62 on: 07 Apr 2016, 13:43 »


This raises the question about which faction made her. The use of genetic enhancements and biological material would lend itself towards the bio-tech faction. However, the clear possibility of synthetic components of some sort to increase her durability is an inconsistency. Is she the result of some attempt to find a 'third way'? Or (and this is much more likely) were the bio-tech faction more than willing to ignore their ideology's rejection of synthetic means when it came to building weapons?

Everyone, spacers and praesides and humans and Alices agree, that AI is not possible (any more), as the Blink eliminated it all.  (Possible exception: the Eschaton that caused the Blink.) Hence Alice and Sedna are not AI.  From that I'd assume that they have meat brains, and were developed by the bio-tech faction. 

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Re: Alice Grove MCDLT - April 2016
« Reply #63 on: 07 Apr 2016, 13:52 »

When Alice said she could inflict significant losses, I assume she meant on the humans attacking, not necessarily on their nano-weapons. She never even implied she was well-equipped to fight nano's

Except of course here, where she implies exactly that: http://www.alicegrove.com/post/105313777144/glowy-nanotech
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Re: Alice Grove MCDLT - April 2016
« Reply #64 on: 07 Apr 2016, 14:10 »

There is also the scale of response that Alice can generate in each situation. Imagine if she has access to pre-Blink weaponry of mass destruction....

No.  Read this one again: http://www.alicegrove.com/post/121321270784/thats-it-for-chapter-2-taking-next-week-off

She was there, but unless she's editing the story a bit, she wasn't part of whatever caused the Blink. Whatever deleted all AIs and advanced tech did it regardless of where they were 'hidden'.

Either she's telling the truth, and she has no way of making or hiding advanced tech beyond herself, or she's allied with whatever caused the Blink, and is way more powerful than she lets on.
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Re: Alice Grove MCDLT - April 2016
« Reply #65 on: 07 Apr 2016, 15:33 »

Shoulda gone for the full Fireman Style grab there Alice
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Re: Alice Grove MCDLT - April 2016
« Reply #66 on: 07 Apr 2016, 18:13 »

We should be due for the end of a chapter here soon, too...
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Re: Alice Grove MCDLT - April 2016
« Reply #67 on: 07 Apr 2016, 18:51 »

There was some discussion in the last thread that the night walker exists to nullify technology that isn't "allowed" post-Blink.

I wonder if it's going to strip away Gavia's nanotech. If so (assuming she survives), she is going to be a profoundly unhappy girl.
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Re: Alice Grove MCDLT - April 2016
« Reply #68 on: 07 Apr 2016, 18:56 »

She'd certainly have a rather hard time of things, considering that she probably hasn't walked or done much if any physical exertion on her own.
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Re: Alice Grove MCDLT - April 2016
« Reply #69 on: 07 Apr 2016, 21:23 »

Has anyone seen the new strip that Jeph tweeted about just now? I'm still getting the "I'm just pulling your leg" strip.
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Re: Alice Grove MCDLT - April 2016
« Reply #70 on: 07 Apr 2016, 21:26 »

I think that is the new strip.
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Re: Alice Grove MCDLT - April 2016
« Reply #71 on: 07 Apr 2016, 22:38 »

That makes more sense than getting two in one day.
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Re: Alice Grove MCDLT - April 2016
« Reply #72 on: 08 Apr 2016, 02:04 »

Jeph usually posts Alice strips earlier in the day, but re-announces them on Twitter when he posts the day's QC.
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Re: Alice Grove MCDLT - April 2016
« Reply #73 on: 08 Apr 2016, 12:44 »

Looks like gravity is about to reassert itself.

I suppose this was a single shot, and Alice cannot make another similar leap. Either she needs to re-energize and/or Gavia will be too deeply immersed in the nano-cloud for Alice to grab the other sock.

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Re: Alice Grove MCDLT - April 2016
« Reply #74 on: 08 Apr 2016, 17:37 »

Looks like gravity is about to reassert itself.

I suppose this was a single shot, and Alice cannot make another similar leap. Either she needs to re-energize and/or Gavia will be too deeply immersed in the nano-cloud for Alice to grab the other sock.

Hmmm.

Actually it looks like she double jumped/space jumped. Either that or Jeph forgot which leg she had extended between panel 2 and 3.
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Re: Alice Grove MCDLT - April 2016
« Reply #75 on: 09 Apr 2016, 22:16 »

...maybe she pedaled up? 
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Re: Alice Grove MCDLT - April 2016
« Reply #76 on: 09 Apr 2016, 22:25 »

It is in some sense natural to keep on striding mid-air. Some long jumpers do it vigorously. Not really in an attempt to fly, but as a continuation of the sprinting before take off and/or in preparation for the leg extension needed for a good landing. The latter point does not apply to Alice, but toon physics is also an alternative.
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Re: Alice Grove MCDLT - April 2016
« Reply #77 on: 10 Apr 2016, 23:39 »

Well....that socks.
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Re: Alice Grove MCDLT - April 2016
« Reply #78 on: 10 Apr 2016, 23:45 »

Yeah.  I wonder if The Night Walker will leg it now.
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Re: Alice Grove MCDLT - April 2016
« Reply #79 on: 11 Apr 2016, 01:38 »

I just hope this whole situation hasn't slipped out of Alice's grasp.
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Re: Alice Grove MCDLT - April 2016
« Reply #80 on: 11 Apr 2016, 01:42 »

Bringing down the Night Walker will be no mean feet.
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Re: Alice Grove MCDLT - April 2016
« Reply #81 on: 11 Apr 2016, 14:39 »

It will be a trip to see though
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Re: Alice Grove MCDLT - April 2016
« Reply #82 on: 11 Apr 2016, 14:54 »

But I'm sure Alice will manage to sock it to 'im.
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Re: Alice Grove MCDLT - April 2016
« Reply #83 on: 12 Apr 2016, 12:50 »

Eagerly anticipating what I hope will be a non-cliffhanger if Jeph updates today ...   :mrgreen:
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Re: Alice Grove MCDLT - April 2016
« Reply #85 on: 12 Apr 2016, 16:06 »

Putting the boot in are we cesium?

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Re: Alice Grove MCDLT - April 2016
« Reply #86 on: 12 Apr 2016, 23:59 »

Gavia: Are you really going to rescue me, after all those harsh words?
Alice: No, I'm just pulling your leg.
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Re: Alice Grove MCDLT - April 2016
« Reply #87 on: 13 Apr 2016, 00:11 »

I daresay that Gavia will really have to toe the line and reduce her nano use if she does come out of this okay..
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Re: Alice Grove MCDLT - April 2016
« Reply #88 on: 13 Apr 2016, 20:11 »

Has there been any word about when the next update will be?
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Re: Alice Grove MCDLT - April 2016
« Reply #89 on: 13 Apr 2016, 22:58 »

None whatsoever; Jeph hasn't even mentioned Alice Grove this week on Twitter.
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Re: Alice Grove MCDLT - April 2016
« Reply #90 on: 14 Apr 2016, 22:48 »

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Re: Alice Grove MCDLT - April 2016
« Reply #91 on: 15 Apr 2016, 10:47 »

Well, that was unexpected.

Now I'm wondering if Gavia's nanobots got contaminated by Ardent's. Or if this isn't the real walker, and instead is the same birb that escaped through Alice's window. Or maybe the birb has come to take Gavia home to orbit. (Cue "Solsbury Hill")
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Re: Alice Grove MCDLT - April 2016
« Reply #92 on: 15 Apr 2016, 11:43 »

Okay... Now, is this something the Night Walker could always do or is it something that it could only do with a 'pilot'? Maybe that's what it wanted Gavia for - To use the sophistication of her mind to 'evolve' and be able to do more than the limited programs of its components could do on its own?

Here's a thought though: Is it malign in its intent or is it just attempting to achieve the purpose for what it was created? Was it originally a tool to be used by humans, an extension of the mind and body, much like Gavia's normal abilities but on a vastly greater scale?

Even if it does not intend harm, could Gavia's mind handle being the crux of such power? Worse, if it is malign in nature, does it only require her brain's processing power, not its independent functions?
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Re: Alice Grove MCDLT - April 2016
« Reply #93 on: 15 Apr 2016, 11:53 »

Okay... Now, is this something the Night Walker could always do or is it something that it could only do with a 'pilot'?
Aww, the nightwalker is like a puppy, all it ever wanted was a mom to tell it what to do

Gavia could literally be the only human on the planet since the Blink who actively uses nanobots and knows how to use them, and would therefore be the only viable person for whatever it's up to
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Re: Alice Grove MCDLT - April 2016
« Reply #94 on: 15 Apr 2016, 12:30 »

I wonder if Night Walker bit off more than it could chew. Gavia manifested as a loon to Ardent, and now the Night Walker has turned into a vaguely loon-like bird. (Sort of a cross between a loon and an Apache thunderbird.)

So are we seeing something that is the merger of both of them?
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Re: Alice Grove MCDLT - April 2016
« Reply #95 on: 15 Apr 2016, 13:29 »

I've got a feeling that the Night Walker is, in the normal scheme of things, close to mindless. It just repeats the same basic tasks over and over again. However, Gavia has the ability to use its capabilities to the full. I just don't know if her mind can take the stress of suddenly being the control cortex of such a vast creature or, more worrying, if her higher brain functions are just not needed by the resulting completed unit.
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Re: Alice Grove MCDLT - April 2016
« Reply #96 on: 15 Apr 2016, 14:01 »

New strip up!

I know the comic link isn't perpetual, but it's better not to link directly to the image as that deprives Jeph of clicks on the site which contribute to his income.  Just say it's up (there's a link at the top of the page, after all), please.

There are permalinks for each strip, though, even the most recent one. The permalink for today's page is http://www.alicegrove.com/post/142852600914/birb.
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Re: Alice Grove MCDLT - April 2016
« Reply #97 on: 15 Apr 2016, 14:01 »

It's a good point Ben

Could this be Gavia manifesting her and Ardents desire to go home?
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Re: Alice Grove MCDLT - April 2016
« Reply #98 on: 15 Apr 2016, 14:18 »

Alice flew!  Again!
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Re: Alice Grove MCDLT - April 2016
« Reply #99 on: 15 Apr 2016, 14:31 »

The nightwalker's gone loony!
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