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Author Topic: WCDT Strips 3321-3325 (03 - 07 October 2016)  (Read 40718 times)

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Re: WCDT Strips 3321-3325 (03 - 07 October 2016)
« Reply #50 on: 03 Oct 2016, 20:47 »

It's déjà vu all over again!
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Re: WCDT Strips 3321-3325 (03 - 07 October 2016)
« Reply #51 on: 03 Oct 2016, 20:50 »

It's arthropods all the way down!
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Re: WCDT Strips 3321-3325 (03 - 07 October 2016)
« Reply #52 on: 03 Oct 2016, 21:13 »

Baby steps, Hanners. Baby steps.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3321-3325 (03 - 07 October 2016)
« Reply #53 on: 03 Oct 2016, 22:12 »

In China there is 蛇酒 (shéjiǔ or "snake wine") which is a big bottle of baijiu with a dead snake in it.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3321-3325 (03 - 07 October 2016)
« Reply #54 on: 03 Oct 2016, 22:23 »

All this talk of spidercoffee reminds me of the fact that anything less than 60 fragments of insect per 100 grams of chocolate meets health and safety requirements.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3321-3325 (03 - 07 October 2016)
« Reply #55 on: 03 Oct 2016, 22:59 »

I think that I'd be battling a panic attack if I had to work in CoD's basement! You see, I'm generally not very good with creepy-crawlies of all types.

Poor Hanners, though! I think that this is the first full-on panic attack we've seen from her in a long while. What makes it more frustrating is the realisation that a hug would only make her worse! :-( Still, this strip does give us a bit of insight into how Hanners has taught herself to confront the world - forcing herself to look only at the upside and try to censor out of her mind the downsides.

Now, is it me or is Jeph increasingly using the art styles of Alice Grove in QC?
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Re: WCDT Strips 3321-3325 (03 - 07 October 2016)
« Reply #56 on: 04 Oct 2016, 01:02 »

"Big fleas have smaller fleas,
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 and so, ad infinitum."


I'm sorry Hanners, it's detritus and organic matter all the way down.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3321-3325 (03 - 07 October 2016)
« Reply #57 on: 04 Oct 2016, 01:27 »

Centipedes!
They eat all kinds of ugly bugs.

And I saw one in my apt just the other day...
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« Reply #58 on: 04 Oct 2016, 01:29 »

Did it have venomous pincers like so many do?
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Re: WCDT Strips 3321-3325 (03 - 07 October 2016)
« Reply #59 on: 04 Oct 2016, 04:17 »

I'm sorry Hanners, it's detritus and organic matter all the way down.

And here I thought that it was turtles all the way down.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3321-3325 (03 - 07 October 2016)
« Reply #60 on: 04 Oct 2016, 06:19 »

I'm sorry Hanners, it's detritus and organic matter all the way down.

And here I thought that it was turtles all the way down.
Turtles are organic matter, and they're bound to shed dead skin cells. So you're both right?
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Re: WCDT Strips 3321-3325 (03 - 07 October 2016)
« Reply #61 on: 04 Oct 2016, 06:56 »

The delicious chemicals, you mean.  :mrgreen:

I'm always amazed and impressed (sorry if I've posted this before) when I think about the first people who looked at mushrooms, or blue vein cheese, and thought to themselves "mannn, I bet that is delicious."

I remember someone saying that the person who ate the first oyster must have been SOME Hungry.

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Re: WCDT Strips 3321-3325 (03 - 07 October 2016)
« Reply #62 on: 04 Oct 2016, 07:49 »


I'm always amazed and impressed (sorry if I've posted this before) when I think about the first people who looked at mushrooms, or blue vein cheese, and thought to themselves "mannn, I bet that is delicious."

That is how I feel about all animal products. Mushrooms look mighty tasty to me, but eating a corpse? How does that ever seem like a good idea?
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Re: WCDT Strips 3321-3325 (03 - 07 October 2016)
« Reply #63 on: 04 Oct 2016, 08:47 »


I'm always amazed and impressed (sorry if I've posted this before) when I think about the first people who looked at mushrooms, or blue vein cheese, and thought to themselves "mannn, I bet that is delicious."

That is how I feel about all animal products. Mushrooms look mighty tasty to me, but eating a corpse? How does that ever seem like a good idea?

Survival? If you're an omnivore or in competition with predators, you need to be able to eat what you can, if that means having to eat tubers, fine? Meat? Also fine.

Fruits might be tasty, but they aren't calorie dense. Tubers like yams or beets might pack more of nutritional wallop but have you tried eating one raw? Its not particularly tasty and its difficult to chew. But meat is rich in calories, which considering that early hominids were wanderers, meant that they could travel further, as well as increased nutritional values. Which given that this was around the time the brains of those hominids began to increase in size, indicates that meat was beneficial in more ways than one.

It takes a lot of time and force to chew plant matter, which is why you often see most herbivores take most of the day grazing or looking for food, while predators can, depending on the prey, make a kill last several days. There was a study done by two researchers, Zink and Liebermann, that looked into the technique of chewing throughout human history. In that study, they found that even if a third of the meal was meat, that actually freed up more time that could be spent just chewing.

We evolved from endurance hunters; binocular vision, standing straight with bipedal locomotion, most of our muscle mass lies in our lower back and thighs, relatively hairless because we sweat, all of that meant we could literally walk down prey and hit it with a rock. But we were also able to adapt to function in any food environment based on what was available - coastal people could eat more fish than people on the plains who themselves could forage for plants, while people living in forests could eat mushrooms and it goes on.

We're lucky to live in an age where many of us in the developed world can have the luxury of having meat on a daily basis or to decide to live on a vegan diet. Because we have that choice. But there are some who don't have that option, likewise our ancestors didn't have that luxury. It was a case of eat to survive or die.

But this is starting to severely veer off topic, so I'll leave it there.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3321-3325 (03 - 07 October 2016)
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« Reply #65 on: 04 Oct 2016, 11:43 »

It was a case of eat to survive or die.

Fair enough, but that exact same argument applies to nearly every thing humans eat, so I guess we have our answer to every iteration of "why did people first eat...?" It applies equally to corpses and mushrooms.
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« Reply #66 on: 04 Oct 2016, 12:37 »

It was a case of eat to survive or die.

Fair enough, but that exact same argument applies to nearly every thing humans eat, so I guess we have our answer to every iteration of "why did people first eat...?" It applies equally to corpses and mushrooms.

Plus it's not like we just started eating corpses and mushrooms as modern humans; our pre-human ancestors ate them too. There wasn't exactly a moment of "Hey, Caveman Bob found a dead thing, let's see if it's tasty!"

Although I do imagine there was some sort of natural selection in the process. Or the Jackass Effect came into play...

"Hey Urg, me dare you eat mushroom."

"Urg not know..."
"Look at Urg, big terrorbird afraid of mushroom! Buck, buck, bacaw!"
"Fine, Urg eat mushroom!"
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"How mushroom Urg?"
"Urg not feeling too good. Urg has vomiting, cramps, delirium, convulsions and diarrhea. Urg feeling this might be the effects of Amatoxin, which results in the complete and irreversible destruction of liver and kidneys."

And that, good people, is how people learned to stay away from the Destroying Angel mushroom.

Just one last little point, corpse usually refers to the remains of a human being, while the equivalent term for animals is carcass, especially one that has been killed for meat. While there is a certain degree of interchangeability between the two, its generally considered you use carcass for animals, usually because it sounds a little more gruesome than corpse. Probably because corpsing is when an actor has an unexpected bit of laughing on stage, like when an actor is supposed to be dead and they giggle.

Corpse doesn't really do much, while carcass invokes something of a more visceral imagining.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3321-3325 (03 - 07 October 2016)
« Reply #67 on: 04 Oct 2016, 13:28 »

I don't see a difference between a dead human body and a dead body of any other animal. Dead is dead, a corpse is a corpse, meat is meat.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3321-3325 (03 - 07 October 2016)
« Reply #69 on: 04 Oct 2016, 15:05 »

At least Dora didn't have to use Hanners Reset Button 
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Re: WCDT Strips 3321-3325 (03 - 07 October 2016)
« Reply #70 on: 04 Oct 2016, 18:06 »

And Faye wasn't there to calm her down with the hypnoboobs.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3321-3325 (03 - 07 October 2016)
« Reply #71 on: 04 Oct 2016, 19:14 »

Long-time residents of Pittsburgh complained that Iron City beer lost much of its flavor after the city cleaned up the rivers.

On the other hand the rivers are no longer health and fire hazards, so it may be a fair trade-off.

It says something when a RIVER full of WATER is a FIRE HAZARD.

No!  Not want-um THAT kind Firewater!  Ugh!


I'm always amazed and impressed (sorry if I've posted this before) when I think about the first people who looked at mushrooms, or blue vein cheese, and thought to themselves "mannn, I bet that is delicious."

That is how I feel about all animal products. Mushrooms look mighty tasty to me, but eating a corpse? How does that ever seem like a good idea?

But eatin' people alive?  Where's THAT get fun?
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Re: WCDT Strips 3321-3325 (03 - 07 October 2016)
« Reply #72 on: 04 Oct 2016, 21:22 »

My wife told me to take a spider out instead of killing it. 

We went and had drinks.  Pretty cool guy, wants to be a web designer.
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« Reply #73 on: 04 Oct 2016, 22:31 »

My wife told me to take a spider out instead of killing it. 

We went and had drinks.  Pretty cool guy, wants to be a web designer.

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« Reply #74 on: 04 Oct 2016, 22:56 »

Ok... who else thought at first that Elliot's "disturbing news" would be ...

... that the spiders were now gone from the coffee?
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« Reply #75 on: 04 Oct 2016, 23:24 »

I've got the feeling that Renee has never warned Elliot just how direct Brun is and the fact that she has this skill of looking at you as if nothing you've said entirely makes sense to her, no matter what you say. Right now, however, I suspect that she's deciding whether or not flustered!Elliot is cute and whether she wishes to make this continue to happen.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3321-3325 (03 - 07 October 2016)
« Reply #76 on: 05 Oct 2016, 01:44 »

It was a case of eat to survive or die.

Fair enough, but that exact same argument applies to nearly every thing humans eat, so I guess we have our answer to every iteration of "why did people first eat...?" It applies equally to corpses and mushrooms.

Plus it's not like we just started eating corpses and mushrooms as modern humans; our pre-human ancestors ate them too. There wasn't exactly a moment of "Hey, Caveman Bob found a dead thing, let's see if it's tasty!"

Although I do imagine there was some sort of natural selection in the process. Or the Jackass Effect came into play...

Not to mention that humans are fairly smart and can learn what generally is and isn't safe to eat by observing not only other humans, but other animals. 


Somehow no-one has mentioned this, but there's a few essential proteins that aren't produced by plants, but can be synthesized by our bodies provided we eat the right combination of legumes/beans and other vegetables in the correct balance, as those combinations hold proteins that can be broken down and reassembled. And being that humans tend to put forward as little effort as possible, plus some of us having a strong aversion to bitter flavors [waves hand], thus meat.


Also, imagine how the first humans discovered cooking the meat. Maybe some mastodon getting struck by lightning.
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« Reply #77 on: 05 Oct 2016, 02:04 »

...but eating a corpse? How does that ever seem like a good idea?
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« Reply #79 on: 05 Oct 2016, 04:05 »

I don't see a difference between a dead human body and a dead body of any other animal. Dead is dead, a corpse is a corpse, meat is meat.

I have this theory that most of us are descended from people who either did see the difference, or were smart enough to fake it  ...  :evil:
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Re: WCDT Strips 3321-3325 (03 - 07 October 2016)
« Reply #80 on: 05 Oct 2016, 04:10 »

I still can't get over Elliot's sudden sexiness...
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« Reply #81 on: 05 Oct 2016, 04:24 »

Once again, we see Jeph's tendency to 'sex up' characters who are suddenly romantic protagonists; this is not a criticism as I am sticking with my 'through the character's eyes' theory.

Am I the only one who thinks that it might be very, very interesting if Elliot asks Brun on a date? Would she necessarily understand how to handle that or how to act? Or would she be blunt and dryly suggest that they simply skip the lengthy and expensive social song-and-dance and get down to what they both actually want to do with each other?
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« Reply #82 on: 05 Oct 2016, 04:40 »

I think there is a tendency in the art to increase all the characters conventional attractiveness over time. Marigold magically acquiring larger boobs, Claire's face becoming much more feminine, the Elliot stuff at the moment.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3321-3325 (03 - 07 October 2016)
« Reply #83 on: 05 Oct 2016, 06:10 »

So being a bouncer isn't like it was in Roadhouse?  I won't be having a very Patrick Swayze Christmas knowing that now.
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« Reply #84 on: 05 Oct 2016, 08:14 »

Elliot is the walking tough guy, big softie trope. But that's totally okay.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3321-3325 (03 - 07 October 2016)
« Reply #85 on: 05 Oct 2016, 09:11 »

More to the point, plate glass windows are extremely expensive. Throw a customer through one and generate that big a bill and you're probably looking for a new job.
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« Reply #87 on: 05 Oct 2016, 13:06 »

More to the point, plate glass windows are extremely expensive. Throw a customer through one and generate that big a bill and you're probably looking for a new job.

I'm a bit sceptic as to whether it is even possible to throw somebody through a modern glass window - the 2nd answer in this quora-thread gives some professional background on modern glass windows. And apparently there's precedent for people hurling themselves into a glass window. Garry Hoy of Toronto eventually succeeded in his (involuntary) attempts at autodefenestration, but only because he knocked the complete pane out of the frame.

Throwing a male human body (avg. canadian adult male weighs 80.3 kg), at a speed at least as fast as they could run (upwards of 20-25 kph), is another thing entirely.



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Re: WCDT Strips 3321-3325 (03 - 07 October 2016)
« Reply #88 on: 05 Oct 2016, 13:17 »


I've punched through a window before, albeit a pretty thin pane.
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« Reply #89 on: 05 Oct 2016, 14:57 »

There is a story about the "all glass" siding in a new skyscraper, when the women (in particular) were afraid of tripping on the carpeting, and falling out of the windows.  The management brought in the designer of the windows to talk to the people in the offices about this. 

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Re: WCDT Strips 3321-3325 (03 - 07 October 2016)
« Reply #90 on: 05 Oct 2016, 15:19 »

Nothing like a practical demonstration to show things off.

I would have thought that this was something Brun would have been well aware of working in the kind of Bar she was working in before it burnt down.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3321-3325 (03 - 07 October 2016)
« Reply #91 on: 05 Oct 2016, 15:21 »

That is an impressive example of dogfooding.

I would have thought that this was something Brun would have been well aware of working in the kind of Bar she was working in before it burnt down.

You're talking about a bartender whose first resort was the harpoon.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3321-3325 (03 - 07 October 2016)
« Reply #92 on: 05 Oct 2016, 15:54 »


And no one can talk to a corpse, of corpse ...


Unless that corpse is of corpse the famous Mr. Dead.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3321-3325 (03 - 07 October 2016)
« Reply #93 on: 05 Oct 2016, 16:29 »

I don't see a difference between a dead human body and a dead body of any other animal. Dead is dead, a corpse is a corpse, meat is meat.

I'm fairly certain that a quite a few bio-chemists and cooks will disagree with you on that. Especially when it comes to arthropods.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3321-3325 (03 - 07 October 2016)
« Reply #94 on: 05 Oct 2016, 18:32 »

But lobsters!
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Re: WCDT Strips 3321-3325 (03 - 07 October 2016)
« Reply #95 on: 05 Oct 2016, 19:54 »

So. If I'm shipping (I always am) Brun and Elliot now, who do I pair Clin-ton off with?

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Re: WCDT Strips 3321-3325 (03 - 07 October 2016)
« Reply #96 on: 05 Oct 2016, 20:14 »

Clearly he would be paired with an AI.

No, not May.
Or Momo.
Or Bubbles.
Pintsize would be interested, but Clinton wouldn't be into it...

I'm talking, of course, about Robot Hand.  :roll:
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Re: WCDT Strips 3321-3325 (03 - 07 October 2016)
« Reply #97 on: 05 Oct 2016, 20:44 »

I don't see a difference between a dead human body and a dead body of any other animal. Dead is dead, a corpse is a corpse, meat is meat.

I'm fairly certain that a quite a few bio-chemists and cooks will disagree with you on that. Especially when it comes to arthropods.
I meant philosophically, not physically.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3321-3325 (03 - 07 October 2016)
« Reply #98 on: 05 Oct 2016, 21:03 »

So being a bouncer isn't like it was in Roadhouse?  I won't be having a very Patrick Swayze Christmas knowing that now.

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Re: WCDT Strips 3321-3325 (03 - 07 October 2016)
« Reply #99 on: 05 Oct 2016, 21:05 »

I don't see a difference between a dead human body and a dead body of any other animal. Dead is dead, a corpse is a corpse, meat is meat.

I'm fairly certain that a quite a few bio-chemists and cooks will disagree with you on that. Especially when it comes to arthropods.
I meant philosophically, not physically.

I think you got that the wrong way around. You are correct physically, sitnspin was (I daresay) speaking philosophically.
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