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They'd better keep that beer away from Hannelore, given her subconscious connection with the Great Old Ones.

Not just Hanners.  Both Dora and Emily, and probably others have done it.  I'm starting to think that QC isn't set in Northampton, but Arkham.
So could Mieville (Dora's cat) secretly be a stoner demon? Aparently Mieville gives her good advice when he's not high on catnip.

EDIT: autocorrect needs to die in a dumpster fire. Especially since it still changes words when it's turned off.
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The second one, definitely. Neither of them strikes me as the type that would appreciate someone exactly like them. I'd cheer for Faye in that case as I still don't like Renee.
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Whelp, the superlative is a bit weird:
"Wormfather Skull-birthday Dark Brew" is something that should definitely exist (Yes, I've said above that "dark brew" is "dunkeles Bräu", but that sounds stupid, so it's called "Dunkelbräu", or "Dunkelbrau").

Aha, I should have realized "totenkopf" was 'skull'. I translated the component parts individually and came up with "deadhead".  8-)

Edit: That must complicate matters when translating articles about Grateful Dead fans (Deadheads) into German. How would you translate "Deadhead" without making the German readers think you're talking about skulls? (Or people who call themselves skulls, at least.)

German Deadheads call themselves Germanheads. German articles normally don't translate words whose literal translation would be ambiguous or confusing and use the original expression instead - you can check the German version of the Deadhead-wiki, e.g. The Jolly Roger would be the "Totenkopfflagge"

Ahh, interesting. Thank you for satisfying my idle curiosity!

And yes, oeoek (Bent jij Nederlander?) is correct, both about the translation and about our preference for concatenating words.

Oh, yes. I studied German in high school back in the late '70s, and I remember our German teacher telling us that the German term for the "Women's Liberation Movement" (a popular topic at the time) was "die Frauengleichberechtigungbewegung".  8-)

Basically, folks, where English uses multiword phrases, German uses multiword words. No matter how long, any phrase can be made into a compound word in German. Trust me. I'm sure Case can cite even longer examples than mine if there's any lingering doubt.  :-D
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Okay, so we actually have an interesting insight into Renee here - She's a compulsive liar; she said something about Brun that Elliott knew was false (and, one assumes she knew that he knew was false) but said it anyway as if it were true. She also moves on from that without an eyeblink, which suggests that this is something she does a lot and doesn't mind being called out over because it doesn't matter to her.

Then there is the advocacy of violence; one assumes she is just joking but, again, Elliott's behaviour just doesn't seem to back up that assumption. Either she likes playing with his head or there is something quite concerning about her essential nature here. I can't quite put my finger on it but Jeph really scripted her weirdly today.

Meanwhile, something tells me that, when Brun wakes up, she will be able to define 'headache' with a precision no-one has before.
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Not so much a compulsive liar as a teller of tall tales.
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Being a German beer, I'm also suspecting that this thing is Reinheitsgebot-compliant... meaning the evilness needs to be entirely done in barley, hops, and yeast.

AFAIK, this applies only if you call it a "Bier". A "Bräu" can be any demonic brew you can come up with.
(Probably not really, but, anyway, rules are relaxed for non-"Bier".)
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Okay, so we actually have an interesting insight into Renee here - She's a compulsive liar; she said something about Brun that Elliott knew was false (and, one assumes she knew that he knew was false) but said it anyway as if it were true. She also moves on from that without an eyeblink, which suggests that this is something she does a lot and doesn't mind being called out over because it doesn't matter to her.

Then there is the advocacy of violence; one assumes she is just joking but, again, Elliott's behaviour just doesn't seem to back up that assumption. Either she likes playing with his head or there is something quite concerning about her essential nature here. I can't quite put my finger on it but Jeph really scripted her weirdly today.

Meanwhile, something tells me that, when Brun wakes up, she will be able to define 'headache' with a precision no-one has before.

I'm more concerned about how much oxygen she's getting underneath that jacket. 
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Okay, so we actually have an interesting insight into Renee here - She's a compulsive liar; she said something about Brun that Elliott knew was false (and, one assumes she knew that he knew was false) but said it anyway as if it were true. She also moves on from that without an eyeblink, which suggests that this is something she does a lot and doesn't mind being called out over because it doesn't matter to her.

Then there is the advocacy of violence; one assumes she is just joking but, again, Elliott's behaviour just doesn't seem to back up that assumption. Either she likes playing with his head or there is something quite concerning about her essential nature here. I can't quite put my finger on it but Jeph really scripted her weirdly today.

Uh, those kinds of diagnoses mostly require observing a pattern of behaviour that we cannot claim to have seen - we see only snippets out of each characters weekly lives - as well as extensive specialized training & experience in clinical psychology. As far as I'm aware, none of us has either that training, or the opportunity.

Could just as well be "snarky fibbing" - which is a condition we all in this good thread here seem to relish 'suffering' from. :laugh:

She seems to be channelling Mieville - either that, or he is (as has been suggested upthread), a stoner demon periodically possessing female characters?



I'm more worried about Elliot, though - the last panel seems to suggest he has a suppressed 'darker side' similar to Hanners. Given his size and aptitude at physical altercations, that could become ... interesting?  :-\
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(Double-posted & then decided to split. Sorry, folks!)

Basically, folks, where English uses multiword phrases, German uses multiword words. No matter how long, any phrase can be made into a compound word in German. Trust me. I'm sure Case can cite even longer examples than mine if there's any lingering doubt.  :-D

Since Germans regard that property of their language with the same mixture of horrified delight and morbid fascination as the rest of the world, that is not a difficult task to carry out: The officially longest word used in the German language (note: you can make endless compound words in German, the criterion is that it's actually used by people) was, until very recently *drumroll*

"Rindfleischetikettierungsüberwachungsaufgabenübertragungsgesetz" (RkReÜAÜG) (Beeflabellingmonitoringtaskstransfer(by)law),

The proud 63-letter monstrosity served as title of a law within the constitution of Mecklenburg-Western Pomerania that regulates how "tasks relating to the monitoring of the labelling of beef for commercial sale are transferred". And yes, that one was actually used.

Rumour has it that the unofficial motto of the "Association for the German Language" is: "To boldly go where no language has gone before".

(And if your morbid curiosity is not yet satisfied: This page should do nicely)
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> The proud 63-letter monstrosity served

Speaking of served, that's just a grunt compared to the supposed name of a dish served up in one of Classical Greek author Aristophanes' comedies - 171 letters.

While I tend to despise Wikipedia as a source, it will do for this:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lopadotemachoselachogaleokranioleipsanodrimhypotrimmatosilphioparaomelitokatakechymenokichlepikossyphophattoperisteralektryonoptekephalliokigklopeleiolagoiosiraiobaphetraganopterygon


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>the last panel seems to suggest he has a suppressed 'darker side'

Who doesn't?

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>the last panel seems to suggest he has a suppressed 'darker side'

Who doesn't?

"seems to suggest he has a suppressed 'darker side' similar to Hanners' ..."  :-\
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Yes, and who doesn't?   :evil:

I was actually thinking that line would have sounded natural from Marten as well.
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"Give in to your feelings Elliott and your journey to the Dark Side will be complete."

Darth Renee??


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I am, admittedly, just guessing, but "Wyrm Father" (father of dragons) sounds like the kind of poetic name one would give the devil, or a demon lord.  And "Worm Father" works too, in the sense that worms eat the flesh of corpses and are therefore creepy and often used in art depicting certain areas of Hell.
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Okay, so we actually have an interesting insight into Renee here - She's a compulsive liar; she said something about Brun that Elliott knew was false (and, one assumes she knew that he knew was false) but said it anyway as if it were true. She also moves on from that without an eyeblink, which suggests that this is something she does a lot and doesn't mind being called out over because it doesn't matter to her.

Then there is the advocacy of violence; one assumes she is just joking but, again, Elliott's behaviour just doesn't seem to back up that assumption. Either she likes playing with his head or there is something quite concerning about her essential nature here. I can't quite put my finger on it but Jeph really scripted her weirdly today.

Meanwhile, something tells me that, when Brun wakes up, she will be able to define 'headache' with a precision no-one has before.

I like Renee less and less with every strip she's in. Outright loathing is not far away.
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Not so much a compulsive liar as a teller of tall tales.

You say to-may-to, I say to-mah-to...

(does anyone actually say to-mah-to?)
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You know, I am pretty sure that Renee is just joking around in all but the second panel, and had no intention to deceive, kill, or maim anyone.

Just in case this is not obvious.

Not so much a compulsive liar as a teller of tall tales.

You say to-may-to, I say to-mah-to...

The key difference is the word compulsive. Can you really prove from one comic that someone is a compulsive liar? I am all ears.

A teller of tall tales is somewhat different. BenRG likes to spin stories from very few data points, but I'm not about to accuse him of compulsive lying.
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"Give in to your feelings Elliott and your journey to the Dark Side will be complete."

Darth Renee??


:-D

Wouldn't it be the 2nd and 3rd letters of her mother's maiden name in front of the second half of her father's family name (vowel shift to avoid excessive consonants/vowels)?

EDIT: Forgot to add examples.
Hanner's would be 'Hacott Xann' or 'Hacott Xanne'
Marten's would be 'Aned Car'

 Apply apostrophes and/or hyphens where needed. May work better for some than for others (mine's N'dus Tan). Mix and match with the 5-6 method or the Angelfire method if so desired (just don't send any emails with your personal info).

Do we know the maiden name of any of the other character's mothers? Possibly ones that get better names with the Kylo Ren method? [Skywalker Solo, Ben -> Ren]
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Is anyone else getting the feeling that Elliot is secretly into role play?
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BenRG likes to spin stories from very few data points

BenRG is to creativity what Akima is to debate.
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Looking at today's comic, Brun in panel 2 is much taller than usual. Elliot not only has weird ideas about housework, he's also fantasizing Brun into an Amazon. He might be one of those guys who's attracted to dominant women.
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Why does Elliot have weird ideas about housework? His Brun fantasy seems pretty standard to me. Except maybe the bow, but that's probably a callback to the Kiki tthing.
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BenRG likes to spin stories from very few data points

BenRG is to creativity what Akima is to debate.

I often see things differently to him, but there's no doubt he's way more creative than I am.  :-D

Edit, today's comic. Hannels materialised from half-way across town upon hearing her favourite word. ;)
... that was a joke, promise I'm not a compulsive liar.  :-o
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Why does Elliot have weird ideas about housework? His Brun fantasty seems pretty standard to me. Except maybe the bow, but that's probably a callback to the Kiki tthing.

Kiki's Delivery Service After Dark it would appear. 
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This could revive the speculation about Hannelore making another giant stride toward social integration by taking on a roommate. It would have to be a fastidious one of course.
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(does anyone actually say to-mah-to?)

Let's start with the whole of the UK...
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"Gah! Where the heck did you come from?!"

"Blame my parent's Eddy."

Eddies in the time-stream?
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I like Renee less and less with every strip she's in. Outright loathing is not far away.

Her parallels with Faye never cease to amaze.

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The second one, definitely. Neither of them strikes me as the type that would appreciate someone exactly like them. I'd cheer for Faye in that case as I still don't like Renee.

It's relatively rare I have an actual win-win moment.

That would be one of them.

Eddies in the time-stream?

And this is his sofa, is it??
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Elliott, I really only have on thing to say right now: Ask the woman on a date. Now. Before you either strain something or walk under a bus whilst fantasising about her in costume. One way or another, you've got to get this out of your system!

Meanwhile, we now know for certain that Hannelore hs been taking lessons from her cousin, Bruce Wayne, in the fine art of sneaking up on people unnoticed.

This could revive the speculation about Hannelore making another giant stride toward social integration by taking on a roommate. It would have to be a fastidious one of course.

I think that several people wondered if Brun would end up as Hannelore's roommate back during the fire arc (I know that I did). I'm not saying that this is the way things are going but it's odd that Jeph should have her turn up out-of-context like this otherwise.
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Maybe Elliot doesn't clean his apartment all that often.

Or maybe that's how he dresses when he does.
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(does anyone actually say to-mah-to?)
Let's start with the whole of the UK...
Australia too!
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Let's start with the whole of the UK...
Australia too!

A lot of people who learnt English as a second/foreign language in Europe, too. Due to the proximity to the UK.

I know we're not that relevant, not being native speakers and all, but hey. It's still millions of people using English =D
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Elliott, I really only have on thing to say right now: Ask the woman on a date. Now. Before you either strain something or walk under a bus whilst fantasising about her in costume. One way or another, you've got to get this out of your system!

That seems familiar... ;)
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I know we're not that relevant, not being native speakers and all, but hey. It's still millions of people using English =D

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Let's start with the whole of the UK...
Australia too!

How about po-tah-to?
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Cue "Everybody Ought to Have a Maid" (from "A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the Forum").

Puttering all around....the house!
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Why does Elliot have weird ideas about housework? His Brun fantasy seems pretty standard to me. Except maybe the bow, but that's probably a callback to the Kiki tthing.

See Jeph's comment at the bottom.
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The 'weird idea' is that someone doing something as strenuous as housework can look anything except tired and pissed off.

That said, I suspect that Elliot would be hard-pressed to imagine Brun not looking like an alluring perfect woman to him. The boy is completely smitten at this point! :-D
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Looking at today's comic, Brun in panel 2 is much taller than usual.
Taller, or less, err,  substantial?
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How about po-tah-to?

Now you're on firmer ground - I don't think anybody says that.
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This could revive the speculation about Hannelore making another giant stride toward social integration by taking on a roommate. It would have to be a fastidious one of course.

I think that several people wondered if Brun would end up as Hannelore's roommate back during the fire arc (I know that I did). I'm not saying that this is the way things are going but it's odd that Jeph should have her turn up out-of-context like this otherwise.

Or it could be as simple as what Jeph says right under the comic: "Hannelore has a newsletter for fastidious people."

But maybe that's just his attempt to throw us off the scent.  8-)
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I know we're not that relevant, not being native speakers and all, but hey. It's still millions of people using English =D

Millyuns and millyuns!

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OK, now I'm beginning to wonder if Hannelore is a Talent - maybe a T4 or, *Gasp*, a T1 Prime!


(Fans of Anne McCaffrey will get the reference)  :D


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I doubt that she's a Prime. If she was, the last person to hug her unexpectedly would have ended up on Proxima B!
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