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Author Topic: WCDT Strips 3426-3430 (27 February - 3 March 2017)  (Read 19306 times)

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Re: WCDT Strips 3426-3430 (27 February - 3 March 2017)
« Reply #100 on: 28 Feb 2017, 20:55 »

Highly disappointed in Hanners reaction here.

This moves on from the general "Don't talk to the police" advice.  This is very specific.  Roko was last heard from as a police officer harassing Bubbles, or investigating a case in which Bubbles feared arrest.  And Hanners is a friend to Bubbles. 

Now, in spite of that, Hannelore was nice and friendly to the officer - right up to the point where she asked a question, specifically, about Bubbles.  The look on Hanners' face is both flat affect (which bluntly tells Roko that she won't respond to further questions) and "Goddamn it I extended perfectly friendly hospitality to this person and they abused it by seeking to trick me and exploit my relationship with a friend."

Unlike some folks, I'm perfectly happy to talk to police - usually they're investigating something I want to see solved and not actively trying to trick me or faking friendly interest when it's not there.   

But if someone walks in who's specifically been after one of my friends who's been fucking COERCED into doing something that's technically against the law, whom I don't believe deserves to go to jail ...  walks in acting friendly, and then 'casually' brings up the conversational subject of that friend....  Just.  No. 

Fucking no sale.  You were only pretending to be friendly, now you are lying to me about no longer being after her, you're abusing my offer of friendship to you and you're abusing my friendship with her.  You are despicable.

It may not actually be true in this case, but I would reach the same conclusion, and the same reaction, that Hannelore did.  I'd be not giving that officer one single word more.


Can we maybe give Roko the benefit of the doubt here? Maybe she wants to apologize to Bubbles. *shrug*
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Re: WCDT Strips 3426-3430 (27 February - 3 March 2017)
« Reply #101 on: 28 Feb 2017, 20:56 »

I think the point is we can, but it might be understandable that Hanners might not want to, not knowing what we know.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3426-3430 (27 February - 3 March 2017)
« Reply #102 on: 28 Feb 2017, 20:59 »

Steve! Cereal! Tortura!


And Cosette.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3426-3430 (27 February - 3 March 2017)
« Reply #103 on: 28 Feb 2017, 21:00 »

Well... that was a thing.  :-o

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Re: WCDT Strips 3426-3430 (27 February - 3 March 2017)
« Reply #104 on: 28 Feb 2017, 21:03 »

Can we maybe give Roko the benefit of the doubt here? Maybe she wants to apologize to Bubbles. *shrug*
Could Hannelore give Roko the benefit of the dout? Yes. Should she? Without direct evidence to the contrary, no.

Do I think Roko is lying? No, I don't. That doesn't matter -- Roko's relationship with everyone at CoD is necessarily poisoned.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3426-3430 (27 February - 3 March 2017)
« Reply #105 on: 28 Feb 2017, 21:32 »

Awww yisss, sexy Steve.

Now I really want a scene with Steve and Hanner-Mom meeting and both going: "YOU!"
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Re: WCDT Strips 3426-3430 (27 February - 3 March 2017)
« Reply #106 on: 28 Feb 2017, 22:24 »

Damn, Steve got BEEFY

Look at those arms!
And Tortura has put on weight too. Compare the two of them in http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1406. She must be happy with her new man, despite her fears.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3426-3430 (27 February - 3 March 2017)
« Reply #107 on: 28 Feb 2017, 22:28 »

I think everyone's missing the really important question.

When will The Little Girl who Hid the Bodies be available on Amazon?
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Re: WCDT Strips 3426-3430 (27 February - 3 March 2017)
« Reply #108 on: 28 Feb 2017, 23:20 »

I think that Cossette needs to realise that Steve has some very odd ex co-workers and that sometimes they are very alarming ex co-workers (or, in Tortura's case, ex elite enemy agents)! For most relationships, Tortura 'dropping in' would be a kiss of death. With Cossette, I'm really not sure but I suspect that she'd take it as an occupational hazard.

What I think Tortura needs to understand is that sometimes relationships mean compromise. She's already told Steve before that she kind of wants out of the game. As bizarre as settling down to write one's autobiography as a series of stories for ages 5-8 years might seem for an ex super-spy, something tells me that, in the end, it would make her happy. Sometimes, getting 'bored' is better than the alternative.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3426-3430 (27 February - 3 March 2017)
« Reply #109 on: 28 Feb 2017, 23:43 »

Myself, I would like for Roko to be adopted. I find her interesting.
I think that Clairemom and Steve recognizing each other would be amusing.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3426-3430 (27 February - 3 March 2017)
« Reply #110 on: 01 Mar 2017, 00:08 »

As bizarre as settling down to write one's autobiography as a series of stories for ages 5-8 years might seem for an ex super-spy, something tells me that, in the end, it would make her happy. Sometimes, getting 'bored' is better than the alternative.

That's actually on the saner side of "bizarre" for certain types of retirement for certain lines of work.  More common is a strange dichotomous desire to be left alone and yet tweak people at their stupid spot for amusement. 

Kudos to Jeph for this one.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3426-3430 (27 February - 3 March 2017)
« Reply #111 on: 01 Mar 2017, 00:27 »

"I find you; feed you to pigs" shall be my favourite way of seeing somebody off henceforth!
"Feed you to peegs!" is how my imagination pronounced it.

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Re: WCDT Strips 3426-3430 (27 February - 3 March 2017)
« Reply #112 on: 01 Mar 2017, 00:51 »

Welcome, new people!

If anyone wants to argue that Hannelore's reaction was excessive, it's a reasonable position to take, but excessive reactions are a Hannelore thing.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3426-3430 (27 February - 3 March 2017)
« Reply #113 on: 01 Mar 2017, 01:41 »

I think everyone's missing the really important question.

When will The Little Girl who Hid the Bodies be available on Amazon?
Is it just me, or does that title sound very Neil Gaiman?  Now I want a children's book from him with that title!

(I'm not entirely certain he hasn't already written a short story for adults that'd fit that theme.)
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Re: WCDT Strips 3426-3430 (27 February - 3 March 2017)
« Reply #114 on: 01 Mar 2017, 02:05 »

Myself, I would like for Roko to be adopted. I find her interesting.
I think that Clairemom and Steve recognizing each other would be amusing.
Clairemom, Tortura and Veronica recognising each other from college even more so.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3426-3430 (27 February - 3 March 2017)
« Reply #115 on: 01 Mar 2017, 02:29 »

Myself, I would like for Roko to be adopted. I find her interesting.
I think that Clairemom and Steve recognizing each other would be amusing.

Clairemom, Tortura and Veronica recognising each other from college even more so.

I've long thought that Claire's mother, Veronica and Beatrice would make a nice 'Moms Gone Wild' group to totally embarrass Marten, Claire and Hannelore with their drunken antics (six clubs they're banned from for life and more expected to come). We won't talk about the bar fights they've started (and won).

As for Tortura, she'd be great if she was the student counsellor at Sam's school. The more grabby boys in the school have got a bit more circumspect after the first chloroformed, stripped and bound wannabe Casanova was found in a dumpster.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3426-3430 (27 February - 3 March 2017)
« Reply #116 on: 01 Mar 2017, 03:06 »

It's also possible that Hanners might have deliberately chosen a tea varietal that leans more 'anthro-unicorn in banana hammock' than 'pastoral unicorn', to elicit embarrassment from Roko.  Or it might reflect more of a psychological difference between Roko and Bubbles.  I'm not rejecting the possibility you mentioned, because I'm also mulling over that hypothesis.

"Tea?"
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Re: WCDT Strips 3426-3430 (27 February - 3 March 2017)
« Reply #117 on: 01 Mar 2017, 04:22 »

This strip has confused the everloving shit out of me.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3426-3430 (27 February - 3 March 2017)
« Reply #118 on: 01 Mar 2017, 04:29 »

I never thought we'd see Tortura again. I like that her worst case scenario isn't that her boyfriend gets brainwashed by the CIA.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3426-3430 (27 February - 3 March 2017)
« Reply #120 on: 01 Mar 2017, 04:34 »

*THAT* is how you do a call-back.

Indeed and it's also a nice reminder to everyone complaining about how ludicrous the previous plot arc was that there were others. 
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Re: WCDT Strips 3426-3430 (27 February - 3 March 2017)
« Reply #121 on: 01 Mar 2017, 04:39 »

This strip has confused the everloving shit out of me.

Ugh... Oh God... Okay, I'll try this.

Okay, Steve is actually an ex-CIA spook. His last big mission (against an anonymous Dr Evil/Bloefeld-style villain) left him pretty much burned out. In continuity terms, the mission seems to have taken place between Marten and Faye moving in together and Faye's 'relationship' with Sven breaking down. However, the villain had a Femme Fatale/Black Hat Bond Girl sidekick called Tortura, who apparently threatened to torture Steve before he seduced her - I suspect that her heel-face turn was key to the villain's defeat. This is a link to the flashback summary strip.

Anyway, when we next see her, Tortura has evidently escaped the custody of The Company and has tracked Steve down. She knew it was over between them but wanted to say goodbye to Steve before continuing her escape plan.

Now we find out what her escape plan was. She's settled down somewhere and is attempting to get started as a children's author of all things. However, she's having second thoughts about her boyfriend and wanted to talk to Steve about it (he being the closest thing to a friend she has... who is still alive at least). As far as Marten and Cossette know, she's just a weird ex-girlfriend of Steve's. They couldn't be more wrong:-D
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Re: WCDT Strips 3426-3430 (27 February - 3 March 2017)
« Reply #122 on: 01 Mar 2017, 05:05 »

To be fair, Cosette now has an idea, most likely...
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Re: WCDT Strips 3426-3430 (27 February - 3 March 2017)
« Reply #123 on: 01 Mar 2017, 05:19 »

So Tortura just showed up unannounced in Steve's kitchen this morning. Didn't even bother to knock, because she didn't come in through the door anyway. Steve is completely unfazed by this because he knows how Tortura rolls.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3426-3430 (27 February - 3 March 2017)
« Reply #124 on: 01 Mar 2017, 05:30 »

I never thought we'd see Tortura again. I like that her worst case scenario isn't that her boyfriend gets brainwashed by the CIA.
Note that she said ".. and tries to kill me." I think she knows she  will be more than a match for him.  But it would damage their  relationship all the same.

Also -- Cosette's eyes! Having been brown, blue and grey, they now have no colour at all!
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Re: WCDT Strips 3426-3430 (27 February - 3 March 2017)
« Reply #125 on: 01 Mar 2017, 05:36 »

Can we maybe give Roko the benefit of the doubt here? Maybe she wants to apologize to Bubbles. *shrug*

Can we? Sure. Should we? Probably. Omniscient 3rd person perspective and all we can figure everything she has done is on the up and up and innocent. From Hanner's perspective though, she doesn't know anything about Officer Roko except she's a possible danger to her friend Bubbles.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3426-3430 (27 February - 3 March 2017)
« Reply #126 on: 01 Mar 2017, 08:25 »

I missed Tortura. She's one of my favorite one-off characters.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3426-3430 (27 February - 3 March 2017)
« Reply #127 on: 01 Mar 2017, 08:36 »

Man, it's been so long since we saw Steve, I actually wondered who that was.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3426-3430 (27 February - 3 March 2017)
« Reply #128 on: 01 Mar 2017, 09:55 »

Let me put it this way: I don't think I would have recognised Steve if not for Tortura.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3426-3430 (27 February - 3 March 2017)
« Reply #129 on: 01 Mar 2017, 11:14 »

I missed Tortura. She's one of my favorite one-off characters.

Well, now she's a three-off character.

We are agreed, though, about her being off.

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Re: WCDT Strips 3426-3430 (27 February - 3 March 2017)
« Reply #130 on: 01 Mar 2017, 11:52 »

At least she still cares about Steve  :-D
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Re: WCDT Strips 3426-3430 (27 February - 3 March 2017)
« Reply #131 on: 01 Mar 2017, 12:54 »

Let me put it this way: I don't think I would have recognised Steve if not for Tortura.

He had a bowl in hand and a pompadour hairstyle. The two hallmarks of Steve!
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Re: WCDT Strips 3426-3430 (27 February - 3 March 2017)
« Reply #132 on: 01 Mar 2017, 14:47 »

Also -- Cosette's eyes! Having been brown, blue and grey, they now have no colour at all!
She must have an array of colored contact lenses.
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« Reply #133 on: 01 Mar 2017, 15:11 »

"I find you; feed you to pigs" shall be my favourite way of seeing somebody off henceforth!
"Feed you to peegs!" is how my imagination pronounced it.

Me too!

Yeah, that was a great callback. Totally unexpected, and funny!
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Re: WCDT Strips 3426-3430 (27 February - 3 March 2017)
« Reply #134 on: 01 Mar 2017, 19:44 »

So Tortura just showed up unannounced in Steve's kitchen this morning. Didn't even bother to knock, because she didn't come in through the door anyway. Steve is completely unfazed by this because he knows how Tortura rolls.

I can see this setting up a Tortura vs. Creepybot scene.

"How did you get in here?"

"How did YOU get in here!?"
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Re: WCDT Strips 3426-3430 (27 February - 3 March 2017)
« Reply #135 on: 01 Mar 2017, 22:07 »

I think everyone's missing the really important question.

When will The Little Girl who Hid the Bodies be available on Amazon?

I suspect one option to get a similar feel would be buying "The Adventures of the Princess and Mr. Whiffle: The Thing Beneath the Bed"

Or "The Little Girl Who Hid the Bodies" is a similar inversion. I must say they'd look great next to each others in the bookshelf though. Sadly, so far only TAotPaMW:TTBtB seems to be the only one publicly available. :(
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Re: WCDT Strips 3426-3430 (27 February - 3 March 2017)
« Reply #136 on: 01 Mar 2017, 23:53 »

No new comic yet -- did Jeph forget to queue it up before he left for the con?

So Tortura just showed up unannounced in Steve's kitchen this morning. Didn't even bother to knock, because she didn't come in through the door anyway. Steve is completely unfazed by this because he knows how Tortura rolls.

I can see this setting up a Tortura vs. Creepybot scene.

"How did you get in here?"

"How did YOU get in here!?"

The really weird part would be if Steve recognized Creepybot.  :psyduck:

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Re: WCDT Strips 3426-3430 (27 February - 3 March 2017)
« Reply #137 on: 02 Mar 2017, 00:05 »


It's also possible that Hanners might have deliberately chosen a tea varietal that leans more 'anthro-unicorn in banana hammock' than 'pastoral unicorn', to elicit embarrassment from Roko.

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Re: WCDT Strips 3426-3430 (27 February - 3 March 2017)
« Reply #138 on: 02 Mar 2017, 01:35 »

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I think that the problem here is that Hannelore didn't communicate clearly enough to Dora what she found and why Dora might care whether Hannelore gave it as a gift to her friend. In this case, a valuable industrial-era antique that a collector almost certainly would want to bid for on eBay.

Key Learning: Dora should be more careful about getting details before agreeing with Hannelore in the future.

Y'know, I can't help but wonder what else might be down there? The hardware upon which the first AI compiled? Claire's dad living in a cardboard box? The corpse of Spookybot's creator (still in the refrigerator)?
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« Reply #139 on: 02 Mar 2017, 01:46 »

There's probably a mammalogist who could use it for some longtidinal study on the effects of a changing urban environment on small animals living there who just needs the dietary portion for their study.

Either that or a future 'Golden Fleece Award' recipient (they really need to bring those back).

Edit: forgot to specify exactly why they'd need the mouse droppings.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3426-3430 (27 February - 3 March 2017)
« Reply #140 on: 02 Mar 2017, 01:52 »

I think that the problem here is that Hannelore didn't communicate clearly enough to Dora what she found and why Dora might care whether Hannelore gave it as a gift to her friend.

"Hey Dora, I found this ugly old clock in the cellar, I wondered if my friend Brun might like it."
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Re: WCDT Strips 3426-3430 (27 February - 3 March 2017)
« Reply #141 on: 02 Mar 2017, 03:25 »

As great as the miscommunication about the clock is, I think the part that amuses me most about this strip is the waiver to visit the basement.  Or specifically that there's enough of a demand to visit the basement that they even need to have a waiver pre-drafted.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3426-3430 (27 February - 3 March 2017)
« Reply #142 on: 02 Mar 2017, 04:01 »

I think that the problem here is that Hannelore didn't communicate clearly enough to Dora what she found and why Dora might care whether Hannelore gave it as a gift to her friend. In this case, a valuable industrial-era antique that a collector almost certainly would want to bid for on eBay.
You're assuming that Hannelore knew there was something more special about the clock than "this is an old clock and I have a friend who is interested in clocks". You can't communicate what you don't know.

Clairemom, Tortura and Veronica recognising each other from college even more so.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3426-3430 (27 February - 3 March 2017)
« Reply #143 on: 02 Mar 2017, 04:05 »

So Tortura just showed up unannounced in Steve's kitchen this morning. Didn't even bother to knock, because she didn't come in through the door anyway. Steve is completely unfazed by this because he knows how Tortura rolls.

I can see this setting up a Tortura vs. Creepybot scene.

"How did you get in here?"

"How did YOU get in here!?"

NEXT UP: Tortura signs up for companion AI because she doesn't want kids, ends up with Mercedes. Hilarity ensues.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3426-3430 (27 February - 3 March 2017)
« Reply #144 on: 02 Mar 2017, 04:12 »

I think that the problem here is that Hannelore didn't communicate clearly enough to Dora what she found and why Dora might care whether Hannelore gave it as a gift to her friend. In this case, a valuable industrial-era antique that a collector almost certainly would want to bid for on eBay.

You're assuming that Hannelore knew there was something more special about the clock than "this is an old clock and I have a friend who is interested in clocks". You can't communicate what you don't know.

That's true but it's an assumption that I feel safe in making. To me, in panel 5, Hannelore isn't saying: "Well, I didn't know", she's saying: "Maybe you should be more aware of what's down there!"
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Re: WCDT Strips 3426-3430 (27 February - 3 March 2017)
« Reply #145 on: 02 Mar 2017, 05:01 »

I think that the problem here is that Hannelore didn't communicate clearly enough to Dora what she found and why Dora might care whether Hannelore gave it as a gift to her friend. In this case, a valuable industrial-era antique that a collector almost certainly would want to bid for on eBay.
You're assuming that Hannelore knew there was something more special about the clock than "this is an old clock and I have a friend who is interested in clocks". You can't communicate what you don't know.

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Precisely.  I doubt Hannelore knew that it was a valuable antique, but could tell it was old and something Brun might be interested in.  It could just as easily have been discarded like Charles Foster Kane's sled if there wasn't an expert on clocks there. 
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Re: WCDT Strips 3426-3430 (27 February - 3 March 2017)
« Reply #146 on: 02 Mar 2017, 05:42 »

It's a bit of a leap though, isn't it?

H: "Can Brun have this old clock I found?"
D: "Meh..."

The above takes place - and Hannelore finds it's actual dollar worth.

Between the penultimate and last panels surely Hannelore must have thought... "Oops!"
And then had a discussion with Brun that, actually, that's a LOT of money and CoD struggles as it is....

I dunno if I'd be happy to accept losing $3000 on a whim of an employee, without ALL required knowledge.

H: "But you said she could have it!"
D: "That's when it was only described as an old clock! An Old VALUABLE clock is an entirely different matter!"

But then, I suppose that wouldn't be as funny... nor get Brun's face in the last panel!

(I didn't twig that Hannelore and Brun were so CLOSE, though!?)
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Re: WCDT Strips 3426-3430 (27 February - 3 March 2017)
« Reply #147 on: 02 Mar 2017, 05:58 »

WRT $3k walking out the door, I doubt Hanners has much concept of what that means; she has never wanted for money. Now, if Dora decided that maybe she shouldn't be held to an agreement made without proper information, she could probably make it stick; it depends on how much she cares if Hanners gets mad at her. We're also taking Brun's word for the valuation, which may not be justified.

If Brun really does have that encyclopedic knowledge of antique clocks, she might have a career path other than bartending. Or perhaps on top of bartending (she could moonlight at the new Whale while building a daytime gig as an antique clock expert).
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Re: WCDT Strips 3426-3430 (27 February - 3 March 2017)
« Reply #148 on: 02 Mar 2017, 10:13 »

Am I the only one getting a PBS "Antiques Roadshow" flashback?
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Re: WCDT Strips 3426-3430 (27 February - 3 March 2017)
« Reply #149 on: 02 Mar 2017, 10:50 »

Am I the only one getting a PBS "Antiques Roadshow" flashback?
Nope.  If Brun is willing to travel, she can staff the horology desk on AR.
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