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Re: WCDT Strips 3481 to 3485 (15-19 May 2017)
« Reply #100 on: 17 May 2017, 01:55 »

Why did Marten have to move a heavy locker full of tools when it's recently been demonstrated that Bubbles is much better at that sort of thing?

Because Bubbles and Claire are busy debating 'When is a hammer not a hammer?' and Marten was raised by a dominant mother that has left him permanently unable to interrupt a woman when she's doing something. :laugh:
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Re: WCDT Strips 3481 to 3485 (15-19 May 2017)
« Reply #101 on: 17 May 2017, 05:34 »

I'm surprised they have all these tools.  It didn't look like Bubbles and Faye left with much.
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Or Jeremy might have donated tons of CW's old repair tools, not having a lot of use for them himself.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3481 to 3485 (15-19 May 2017)
« Reply #102 on: 17 May 2017, 06:20 »

Come now, Faye. Pizza is a perfectly valid substitute for moving payment.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3481 to 3485 (15-19 May 2017)
« Reply #103 on: 17 May 2017, 07:00 »

Seriously.  I don't want to go on recommending a font people hate so horribly.  Tell me something else - ANYTHING else - that meets universal-use conditions as well as comic sans does.
Arial.
I would say Helvetica.

And I would say that neither of those looks anything like hand-lettering. 

I do, however, regularly recommend Helvetica if resemblance to hand-lettering isn't specifically required. 

A really horribly bad version of Arial (which appears about 20% smaller) was, at least up to last year, installed by default on a lot of Linux machines and makes anything in Arial nearly unreadable to some fraction of browsers.

I wasn't replying in that regard. They are nearly identical fonts as one is basically a carbon copy of the other. I was just pointing out to Zebediah that Helvetica is the OG.

To be fair, you did say "universal-use," which Helvetica definitely hits. Legibility, a thousand weights, and timelessness.

If you're talking approachability... As far as handwriting fonts (or comic book lettering, as Comic Sans was created to mimic), I could name a few (Good Dog, mostly known for being used in the "Keep Austin Weird" slogan, and Chalkboard and Kristen are also classics from the PC), but of course they do not have the ubiquity of Comic Sans. Comic Sans has been a native font on PCs for over 20 years and has been the butt of tired graphic designer jokes for about that long. Hard to beat it.

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Re: WCDT Strips 3481 to 3485 (15-19 May 2017)
« Reply #104 on: 17 May 2017, 08:15 »

I can't utterly hate Comic Sans, seeing as how it was (without doubt) based on Charles M. Schulz's lettering style.

But seeing it anywhere other than in a Peanuts cartoon is... well... yeah...
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Re: WCDT Strips 3481 to 3485 (15-19 May 2017)
« Reply #105 on: 17 May 2017, 10:12 »

Faye's right, Marten was actually a character for the first time in like four arcs!
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Re: WCDT Strips 3481 to 3485 (15-19 May 2017)
« Reply #106 on: 17 May 2017, 10:15 »

To be fair, my only problem with Comic Sans is that it looks bloody awful.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3481 to 3485 (15-19 May 2017)
« Reply #107 on: 17 May 2017, 10:17 »

Come now, Faye. Pizza is a perfectly valid substitute for moving payment.
I came here just to post the very same thing. A slice at least!
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Re: WCDT Strips 3481 to 3485 (15-19 May 2017)
« Reply #108 on: 17 May 2017, 11:40 »

To be fair, my only problem with Comic Sans is that it looks bloody awful.

Seconded. It just plain looks bad.

If one absolutely NEEDS something that looks kinda like Comic Sans, a much better designed alternative is Comic Neue: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comic_Neue .
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Re: WCDT Strips 3481 to 3485 (15-19 May 2017)
« Reply #109 on: 17 May 2017, 13:10 »

To be fair, my only problem with Comic Sans is that it looks bloody awful.
If one absolutely NEEDS something that looks kinda like Comic Sans, a much better designed alternative is Comic Neue: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comic_Neue .
Partially disagree. Comic neue is much more primary school writing than Comic sans vague representation of comic lettering, so is even less use for the original purpose. OTOH a lot of the inappropriate use of comic sans is in situations where the author probably wanted primary school writing, so it does work better for that... I did work up a font of my own hand ball pen lettering, which was intended to have adequate small caps, but getting it really nice and even, at least with the software I have and time I want to devote, is a suprisingly large task...

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Re: WCDT Strips 3481 to 3485 (15-19 May 2017)
« Reply #110 on: 17 May 2017, 14:01 »

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Re: WCDT Strips 3481 to 3485 (15-19 May 2017)
« Reply #111 on: 17 May 2017, 15:15 »

The thing I like about the new business name is that it gives of a solid, dependable vibe. Just the kind of image that their venture needs. No AI will want to put their precious chassis in the hands of amateurs.

Any handwritten font, let alone the infamous comic sans, is going to completely counteract that image. I'm no graphic designer, but for that reason alone, comic sans is clearly not fit for purpose.

Not wanting to defend comic sans specifically, but I'd guess that any free and ubiquitous handwritten font is doomed to be overused and thus reviled.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3481 to 3485 (15-19 May 2017)
« Reply #112 on: 17 May 2017, 16:07 »

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Re: WCDT Strips 3481 to 3485 (15-19 May 2017)
« Reply #113 on: 17 May 2017, 16:45 »

Come now, Faye. Pizza is a perfectly valid substitute for moving payment.

I understand the wisdom in avoiding alcohol even if it's for others, but the least she could do is bring a pizza. 
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Re: WCDT Strips 3481 to 3485 (15-19 May 2017)
« Reply #114 on: 17 May 2017, 16:51 »

Come now, Faye. Pizza is a perfectly valid substitute for moving payment.

I understand the wisdom in avoiding alcohol even if it's for others, but the least she could do is bring a pizza.

Yeah, but you guys are forgetting that Faye and Marten live together. Even if they aren't having pizza at Union Robotics, Faye could still spring for pizza on the way back to the apartment.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3481 to 3485 (15-19 May 2017)
« Reply #115 on: 17 May 2017, 17:21 »

Why did Marten have to move a heavy locker full of tools when it's recently been demonstrated that Bubbles is much better at that sort of thing?

She's probably busy clothes shopping, after all, she's a business owner now, and a business owner needs a proper suit.


Or....she could be over in the corner, demonstrating to Claire how an English Wheel works.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3481 to 3485 (15-19 May 2017)
« Reply #116 on: 17 May 2017, 18:25 »

It's all about the jokes!

Seriously.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3481 to 3485 (15-19 May 2017)
« Reply #117 on: 17 May 2017, 18:54 »

Surely that large Toolcase had wheels??

On the other hand, maybe Marten really needs to work out more




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Re: WCDT Strips 3481 to 3485 (15-19 May 2017)
« Reply #118 on: 17 May 2017, 18:58 »

Why did Marten have to move a heavy locker full of tools when it's recently been demonstrated that Bubbles is much better at that sort of thing?

Because Faye said they reserved the most grueling tasks for Marten, right there in the previous strip!
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Re: WCDT Strips 3481 to 3485 (15-19 May 2017)
« Reply #119 on: 17 May 2017, 19:26 »

You know, the real question is why didn't Marten take the tools out of the cabinet, then move the cabinet and put the tools in afterwards?
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Re: WCDT Strips 3481 to 3485 (15-19 May 2017)
« Reply #120 on: 17 May 2017, 19:51 »

Because it's funnier when he does more work than he has to.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3481 to 3485 (15-19 May 2017)
« Reply #121 on: 17 May 2017, 20:56 »

Wrto fonts that mimic hand lettering...
I'm wondering why comics must be in ALL CAPS. Does that tradition date from a time when comics were for little kids who had not yet learned to read Mixed Case?
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Re: WCDT Strips 3481 to 3485 (15-19 May 2017)
« Reply #122 on: 17 May 2017, 20:58 »

I've wondered that myself. Makes it seem like the characters are YELLING.  :psyduck:
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Re: WCDT Strips 3481 to 3485 (15-19 May 2017)
« Reply #123 on: 17 May 2017, 21:07 »

Wrto fonts that mimic hand lettering...
I'm wondering why comics must be in ALL CAPS. Does that tradition date from a time when comics were for little kids who had not yet learned to read Mixed Case?
I've wondered that myself. Makes it seem like the characters are YELLING.  :psyduck:
Basically when comics with text first appeared, capital text was used simply because it was simpler than cursive script, and in some instances, faster, which was especially critical due to the severe deadline nature of comics.

By the 60s, the printing technology still meant that the quality of the inks and paper meant the inks were prone to running and so capitalised letters still kept their legibility. The technology improved significantly by the 80s, especially in Frank Miller's Batman: Year One, which was one of the first modern era comics to make use of cursive script for thoughts, and later in the Sandman.

But pretty much the reason they still use capital letters nowadays is because it's faster and usually takes up less space in a speech bubble, look at lower case letters like "q" and "p" and how they take up space beneath them to see what I mean.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3481 to 3485 (15-19 May 2017)
« Reply #124 on: 17 May 2017, 21:16 »

Why did Marten have to move a heavy locker full of tools when it's recently been demonstrated that Bubbles is much better at that sort of thing?

Or....she could be over in the corner, demonstrating to Claire how an English Wheel works.

Co2 laser, close enough. :roll:


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Re: WCDT Strips 3481 to 3485 (15-19 May 2017)
« Reply #125 on: 17 May 2017, 21:22 »

daaaaaaaang indeed.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3481 to 3485 (15-19 May 2017)
« Reply #126 on: 17 May 2017, 21:22 »

I suddenly heard Fayes line in the last Panel in Gilbert Godfrieds voice.  ;D

And Lasers are cool.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3481 to 3485 (15-19 May 2017)
« Reply #127 on: 17 May 2017, 21:23 »

And Lasers are cool.

What's in the path of the laser, however, is hot.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3481 to 3485 (15-19 May 2017)
« Reply #128 on: 17 May 2017, 21:34 »

I suddenly heard Fayes line in the last Panel in Gilbert Godfrieds voice.  ;D

And from now on, I shall only be ever to hear Gilbert Gottfried's voice as Faye's.

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Re: WCDT Strips 3481 to 3485 (15-19 May 2017)
« Reply #129 on: 17 May 2017, 21:38 »

To be fair, my only problem with Comic Sans is that it looks bloody awful.

Seconded. It just plain looks bad.

If one absolutely NEEDS something that looks kinda like Comic Sans, a much better designed alternative is Comic Neue: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comic_Neue .
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Re: WCDT Strips 3481 to 3485 (15-19 May 2017)
« Reply #130 on: 17 May 2017, 21:47 »

Surely that large Toolcase had wheels??

On the other hand, maybe Marten really needs to work out mmor
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Re: WCDT Strips 3481 to 3485 (15-19 May 2017)
« Reply #131 on: 17 May 2017, 22:11 »

daaaaaaaang indeed.

Yeah, if I saw someone using a laser to cut cheese, I'd go "Daaaaang!" too.  8-)
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Re: WCDT Strips 3481 to 3485 (15-19 May 2017)
« Reply #132 on: 17 May 2017, 22:32 »

daaaaaaaang indeed.

Yeah, if I saw someone using a laser to cut cheese, I'd go "Daaaaang!" too.  8-)

There's an old (like, late 70s) Fineous Fingers (D&D parody) strip showing someone using a lightsaber to do it.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3481 to 3485 (15-19 May 2017)
« Reply #133 on: 17 May 2017, 22:40 »

Hah, robo-sexism! Crucify him!  :-D

Butt jokes are always the best. But Bubbles´ impressive posterior leaves me with one question. The dark red garment she is wearing, was she wearing it under her armour? This would be absolutely rasonable to protect her skin from the supposedly rather hard armour plates. It is also reasonable that it´s cut rather tight.

Really, really tight....  :-o

So, basically, she is running around in her underwear. Which was clenched between her skin and armour for several years, it seems. Although there is no sweat involved here, I suppose it´s not really clean anymore.

Claire, when you´re done with that brie, maybe you could take Bubbles for some shopping? I hope there is a shop for people in XXL-size around in town.

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Re: WCDT Strips 3481 to 3485 (15-19 May 2017)
« Reply #134 on: 17 May 2017, 23:42 »

As I suggested in a caption competition a week or so back, Bubbles' chassis is a monument to the potential perfection of the human form and it looks like Tai, Dora and Faye are about to discuss that it some detail! I'm just wondering how Bubbles is going to react when she realises that her posterior has a function that she never knew about: Hypnotising some of her friends!

Meanwhile, Claire is learning something new about herself: She likes watching practical materials engineering happening!

I hope there is a shop for people in XXL-size around in town.

There should be! I mean, where else would Elliott get clothing?
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Re: WCDT Strips 3481 to 3485 (15-19 May 2017)
« Reply #135 on: 17 May 2017, 23:48 »

So this is the second instance of somebody being gangdanged in QC or have I missed something?

The first time.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3481 to 3485 (15-19 May 2017)
« Reply #136 on: 17 May 2017, 23:51 »

Didn't Faye give May shit for exactly this objectification?
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Re: WCDT Strips 3481 to 3485 (15-19 May 2017)
« Reply #137 on: 18 May 2017, 00:53 »

Hypnotising some of her friends!
That's just sill- "ALL GLORY TO THE HYPNOTUSH!"

By the 60s, the printing technology still meant that the quality of the inks and paper meant the inks were prone to running and so capitalised letters still kept their legibility.
Curiously, I have read that research into the legibility of text demonstrated that all lower-case text was easier to read in poor print quality, since it is less dense and has more distinctive letterforms.

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Re: WCDT Strips 3481 to 3485 (15-19 May 2017)
« Reply #138 on: 18 May 2017, 01:04 »

The UK's road signs use mixed case for exactly that reason.  The Worboys Committee which redesigned them in the 1960s cited research showing that the overall shapes of words were part of the way we recognise them in fast reading, and the use of lower case obviously gives variation in those shapes which the rectangular blocks of words all in capitals lack.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3481 to 3485 (15-19 May 2017)
« Reply #139 on: 18 May 2017, 01:13 »

Didn't Face give May shit for exactly this Objectification?

And in any case isn't ogling a robot's posterior akin to getting all worked up about a shop window dummy?
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Re: WCDT Strips 3481 to 3485 (15-19 May 2017)
« Reply #140 on: 18 May 2017, 01:32 »

On a complete tangent, I've never understood how people can carry bottles like that. It makes me nervous.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3481 to 3485 (15-19 May 2017)
« Reply #141 on: 18 May 2017, 01:36 »

Didn't Face give May shit for exactly this Objectification?

And in any case isn't ogling a robot's posterior akin to getting all worked up about a shop window dummy?

A shop window dummy isn't a moving, talking, feeling person. That's the difference.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3481 to 3485 (15-19 May 2017)
« Reply #142 on: 18 May 2017, 03:31 »

Claire, when you´re done with that brie, maybe you could take Bubbles for some shopping? I hope there is a shop for people in XXL-size around in town.

There's one down in Holyoke, so close enough.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3481 to 3485 (15-19 May 2017)
« Reply #143 on: 18 May 2017, 04:06 »

for little kids who had not yet learned to read Mixed Case?
I don't get this. Do kids not learn mixed case from the very beginning? Why would kids learn with all caps?
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Re: WCDT Strips 3481 to 3485 (15-19 May 2017)
« Reply #144 on: 18 May 2017, 04:47 »

I definitely learned (with) mixed case.
Then back in high school, I got annoyed at how uneven and sloppy my lowercase letters seemed (to me) and went to small caps.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3481 to 3485 (15-19 May 2017)
« Reply #145 on: 18 May 2017, 06:38 »

Didn't Face give May shit for exactly this Objectification?

And in any case isn't ogling a robot's posterior akin to getting all worked up about a shop window dummy?

A shop window dummy isn't a moving, talking, feeling person. That's the difference.

Technically I think feminists would still normally consider it sexual objectification anyways since, android or not, (and shop window dummy or not), Bubbles looks like a woman.  And I'm pretty sure they consider the real life robot sex dolls to be sexually objectifying, at least when the robots look like women.  However, since it's women doing the objectifying, feminists would be silent.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3481 to 3485 (15-19 May 2017)
« Reply #146 on: 18 May 2017, 07:09 »

Didn't Faye give May shit for exactly this objectification?

Yes, but in May's case she walked up to Bubbles and remarked about her posterior so it was more about her being rude than objectification which honestly everybody does and is only a problem if people act on those impulses. 

It's actually a credit to Dora that she didn't notice earlier when she was there for the lease signing.  She saw Bubbles out of her armor and even though the sweater covered the top half she could still get a good look if she was that curious. 
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Re: WCDT Strips 3481 to 3485 (15-19 May 2017)
« Reply #147 on: 18 May 2017, 07:16 »

Heh.

Getting 'Daaaang'ed by a lesbian, bi-lesbian and a bi-curious. Or possible robo-sexual.  :-D

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Re: WCDT Strips 3481 to 3485 (15-19 May 2017)
« Reply #148 on: 18 May 2017, 07:30 »

Dora is bisexual. There's no such thing as a bi lesbian.  :-D
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Re: WCDT Strips 3481 to 3485 (15-19 May 2017)
« Reply #149 on: 18 May 2017, 08:12 »

So while Bubbles gets danged for her butt; Claire and Bubbles are "cutting the cheese"? Two butt jokes in one comic!
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