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What will be the running theme for this week? (Vote for two)

Clinton decides to 'help' Bubbles and Faye realise their feelings for each other
Clinton AND CLAIRE decide to 'help' Bubbles and Faye realise their feelings for each other
A whole week of Hannelore, Claire and Tai squeeing about how 'cute' Faye and Bubbles are (much to the subjects' annoyance)
Marten is Marten and warns off everyone from interfering with Faye and Bubbles personal life (All: "Aaawww!")
Faye lectures Clinton about how ridiculous the whole idea by listing Bubbles qualities in romantic terms and then saying: "She's too good for me" (or words to that effect)
Faye tells Clinton that she'll prove there is nothing between her and Bubbles by kissing Bubbles.
SpookyBot arrives to play cupid (muttering about the necessity for doing so)
The strip takes a left turn and we spend a week with a hungover Brun
Bubbles and Faye get talking about Clinton's 'delusions'; Faye decides that she needs to work out why Bubbles is so downcast about Faye telling her that Clinton is delusional
Other (please specify in a comment)

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Author Topic: WCDT Strips 3526 to 3530 (17th to 21st July 2017)  (Read 9767 times)

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Okay, I don't have any unique or original ideas this week. I hope that my options on the poll cover all the reasonably-predictable directions that this week's strips might take.

What do I think? Well, I suspect that Faye is probably mostly-ignorant of Bubbles feelings towards her. I strongly suspect that either Clinton will do something stupid like blurting it out to her in a way that convinces Faye that he's a crazy person or Bubbles will react strangely strongly to Faye's denial that there is anything romantic between them. Either way, I think that Faye will spend this week slowly coming to realise that Bubbles chose the right words last Wednesday.

FWIW, I think that, if things do go this way, we won't see Faye's response until the end of next week; this isn't the sort of thing that you can just rush into, after all.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3526 to 3530 (17th to 21st July 2017)
« Reply #1 on: 16 Jul 2017, 16:12 »

Hilarity and awkwardness will ensue.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3526 to 3530 (17th to 21st July 2017)
« Reply #2 on: 16 Jul 2017, 16:29 »

Faye lectures Clinton about how ridiculous the whole idea by listing Bubbles qualities in romantic terms and then saying: "She's too good for me" (or words to that effect)

That's a point, actually. As I mentioned in the last thread, they don't have issues, they have SUBSCRIPTIONS. And Faye probably has confidence issues too...

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Re: WCDT Strips 3526 to 3530 (17th to 21st July 2017)
« Reply #3 on: 16 Jul 2017, 17:30 »

Someone's former love interest (Angus?  Padma?) reappears and complicates the Hell out of at least a couple lives.  OR, focus shifts to Jim and Veronica announcing that Sam and Marten are going to become step-siblings.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3526 to 3530 (17th to 21st July 2017)
« Reply #4 on: 16 Jul 2017, 18:11 »

The strip takes a left turn at Albuquerque and we wind up in a buddy-cop arc with Officer Basilisk and Spookybot tracking down an escaped Corpse Witch.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3526 to 3530 (17th to 21st July 2017)
« Reply #5 on: 16 Jul 2017, 18:14 »

The strip takes a left turn at Albuquerque and we wind up in a buddy-cop arc with Officer Basilisk and Spookybot tracking down an escaped Corpse Witch.

That is the least weird idea for a Lethal Weapon remake that I have ever heard.
"Dammit Basilisk, I've only three days 'til retirement!"
"Relax Spooky, I've got this!"

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"Nevermind, Spooky."
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Re: WCDT Strips 3526 to 3530 (17th to 21st July 2017)
« Reply #6 on: 16 Jul 2017, 18:40 »

Hilarity and awkwardness will ensue.

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Re: WCDT Strips 3526 to 3530 (17th to 21st July 2017)
« Reply #7 on: 16 Jul 2017, 18:56 »

Bubbles as a romantic partner might not make sense but historically marriage has been a business and survival contract.

Bubbles would be the most loyal capable life partner I could imagine.

An asexual marriage would make sense as an outcome. It would be the ultimate way for Faye to get the emotional security she needs.

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Re: WCDT Strips 3526 to 3530 (17th to 21st July 2017)
« Reply #8 on: 16 Jul 2017, 19:40 »

I have been desperately trying to catch up with Game of Thrones, and the parallels between Bubbles and Brienne of Tarth are striking.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3526 to 3530 (17th to 21st July 2017)
« Reply #9 on: 16 Jul 2017, 19:42 »

New strip is up!

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I'm now wondering if Snarky Wendy's social media person exists in the QC universe.

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« Reply #10 on: 16 Jul 2017, 19:57 »

I have been desperately trying to catch up with Game of Thrones, and the parallels between Bubbles and Brienne of Tarth are striking.

Hmmmmh - As far as character-templates go, especially the unconditional loyalty and idealism, I can see that. That being said, if Bubbles reacted like Brienne, there'd be some very confused Cops looking at a pair of AI-chassis legs sticking out of a wall at the skating park.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3526 to 3530 (17th to 21st July 2017)
« Reply #11 on: 16 Jul 2017, 20:07 »

Prediction for next QC strips:
Hilarity and awkwardness will ensue.

Prediction for the next Fast and Furious movie:
Car chases and action will ensue.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3526 to 3530 (17th to 21st July 2017)
« Reply #12 on: 16 Jul 2017, 20:09 »

New strip is up!

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I'm now wondering if Snarky Wendy's social media person exists in the QC universe.

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Re: WCDT Strips 3526 to 3530 (17th to 21st July 2017)
« Reply #13 on: 16 Jul 2017, 21:45 »

The materials they have on hand, eh?   :claireface:
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Re: WCDT Strips 3526 to 3530 (17th to 21st July 2017)
« Reply #14 on: 16 Jul 2017, 22:30 »

I have been desperately trying to catch up with Game of Thrones, and the parallels between Bubbles and Brienne of Tarth are striking.
I wouldn't mind if Gwendoline Christie played Bubbles in any live action QC movie.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3526 to 3530 (17th to 21st July 2017)
« Reply #15 on: 16 Jul 2017, 22:57 »

New strip is up!

.....

I'm now wondering if Snarky Wendy's social media person exists in the QC universe.

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Re: WCDT Strips 3526 to 3530 (17th to 21st July 2017)
« Reply #16 on: 16 Jul 2017, 23:14 »

It took me a few minutes to realise that Bubbles' dialogue in panels 3 and 4 aren't a lack of a 'TM' character in Jeph's text insertion program; Bubbles is literally saying "Wendys, tradmark" with 'trademark' in a quieter voice. Now I find myself wondering if it is a legal requirement about how you have to talk about the promotional derma or if Wendys actually won a court case that obliges everyone to add 'trademark' whenever they mention the corporate name in writing or in speech.

You can see it, actually: The petition was poorly drafted and it wasn't until it was granted that everyone realised that it applied to speech as well as all forms of written communications. Now, everyone under the jurisdiction of the US Federal Court system have to write the company's name as "WendysTM" and pronounce it as "Wendy's, trademark". Thus the corporate perversion of the English language continues! Anyway, a few years later and very few people do it, except AIs whose vocal chips are programmed to automatically do so.

Moving on to the rest of the strip, I'm expecting Clinton to select purple just because it will stand out. If nothing else, I think that it will be an interesting talking point with Emily and Brun!
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« Reply #17 on: 16 Jul 2017, 23:18 »

I'm wondering about that whole trademark thing. I hope we receive some form of explanation.
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« Reply #18 on: 17 Jul 2017, 03:10 »

Might even be a built in thing with AIs saying 'company' trademark...

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« Reply #19 on: 17 Jul 2017, 04:09 »

What if it has to do with some type of sponsorship agreement?
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Re: WCDT Strips 3526 to 3530 (17th to 21st July 2017)
« Reply #20 on: 17 Jul 2017, 05:19 »


Clinton will chose purple.

Then hilarity will ensue when he is hauled over the coals by an angry mob of purple AIs accusing him of Cultural Appropriation...

(or... you know... not.)
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« Reply #21 on: 17 Jul 2017, 05:26 »

Or maybe he'll be surrounded by a mob of purple robots chanting "One of us! One of us!"
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« Reply #22 on: 17 Jul 2017, 06:30 »

Or maybe he'll be surrounded by a mob of purple robots chanting "One of us! One of us!"

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« Reply #23 on: 17 Jul 2017, 06:42 »

I have been desperately trying to catch up with Game of Thrones, and the parallels between Bubbles and Brienne of Tarth are striking.
I wouldn't mind if Gwendoline Christie played Bubbles in any live action QC movie.

I wouldn't mind seeing Frankie Adams as Bubbles - she made great Bobby Draper in The Expanse, Season 2 (Though, admittedly, Christie has a good 11cm on her)

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Re: WCDT Strips 3526 to 3530 (17th to 21st July 2017)
« Reply #24 on: 17 Jul 2017, 08:45 »

Do you think Clinton would choose to be caught red-handed?

I'm sorry, I should redact that. Wendy's (trademark) handed?
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Re: WCDT Strips 3526 to 3530 (17th to 21st July 2017)
« Reply #25 on: 17 Jul 2017, 08:47 »

Oh I don't know, maybe if Clinton dyed his hair black, put some sequins on the hand covering, he could make a decent living as a Michael Jackson impersonator.
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« Reply #26 on: 17 Jul 2017, 09:10 »


"Hello, Brun! You probably don't recognize me because of the purple hand."
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Re: WCDT Strips 3526 to 3530 (17th to 21st July 2017)
« Reply #27 on: 17 Jul 2017, 09:11 »

"I recognise you but not the hand. Are you going to introduce us?"
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Re: WCDT Strips 3526 to 3530 (17th to 21st July 2017)
« Reply #28 on: 17 Jul 2017, 10:31 »

But how will she handshake a hand?

I have a suspicion that Emily's mom(or father) works at Wendys marketing.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3526 to 3530 (17th to 21st July 2017)
« Reply #29 on: 17 Jul 2017, 16:02 »

Well, that would be a handy thing
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Re: WCDT Strips 3526 to 3530 (17th to 21st July 2017)
« Reply #30 on: 17 Jul 2017, 17:14 »

Bubbles is more grounded and centered than Marigold but might be subject to the same confusion about what it means when someone is finally kind. Faye would presumably turn her down but a rejection at Faye-like levels of tact and sensitivity would hurt Bubbles more than I like to think about.
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« Reply #31 on: 17 Jul 2017, 17:58 »

From a long-ago conversation with Claire about Clinton, I thought that he already had a cosmetic covering for the hand but preferred not to use it because he thought having an obvious robot hand was cool.  Here it looks like they have to make one from scratch.

Also, since there seem to be an awful lot of life-like anthro-PCs around (such as Momo's new chassis) I would have expected "caucasian skin tone" to be a commonly available color for dermal coverings.
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« Reply #32 on: 17 Jul 2017, 18:25 »

From a long-ago conversation with Claire about Clinton, I thought that he already had a cosmetic covering for the hand but preferred not to use it because he thought having an obvious robot hand was cool.  Here it looks like they have to make one from scratch.

If the hand is being rebuilt, that might necessitate a new cover, especially if the parts are after market.


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« Reply #33 on: 17 Jul 2017, 18:30 »

Bubbles is more grounded and centered than Marigold but might be subject to the same confusion about what it means when someone is finally kind. Faye would presumably turn her down but a rejection at Faye-like levels of tact and sensitivity would hurt Bubbles more than I like to think about.

Bubbles even has a better grasp of what is and is not socially advisable.  "Please instruct Seven to use her best judgement and to specifically ignore anything Faye suggests."
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« Reply #34 on: 17 Jul 2017, 20:33 »

Oh I don't know, maybe if Clinton dyed his hair black, put some sequins on the hand covering, he could make a decent living as a Michael Jackson impersonator.

Still waiting for Clinton to tell us that Billie Jean is not his lover.
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« Reply #35 on: 17 Jul 2017, 20:51 »

The strip takes a left turn at Albuquerque and we wind up in a buddy-cop arc with Officer Basilisk and Spookybot tracking down an escaped Corpse Witch.

...and they discover Corpse-witch lying stunned after being hit by the buttrocket...
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« Reply #36 on: 17 Jul 2017, 20:56 »

Also, since there seem to be an awful lot of life-like anthro-PCs around (such as Momo's new chassis) I would have expected "caucasian skin tone" to be a commonly available color for dermal coverings.

I can't actually think of any A-PCs other than Momo and Bubbles we've seen recently with a reasonably human skin color.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3526 to 3530 (17th to 21st July 2017)
« Reply #37 on: 17 Jul 2017, 21:32 »

Comic's up!

Dick move, Clinton.  You manage to slide back twelve inches for every 13 you go forward. 
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« Reply #38 on: 17 Jul 2017, 21:34 »

Faye Death-GlareTM - so much better than the standard death-glare.
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« Reply #39 on: 17 Jul 2017, 21:50 »

Why do you not consider it a normal business negotiation?
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« Reply #40 on: 17 Jul 2017, 22:01 »

It's a rude move to negotiate about payment for parts and labor after the labor's already been done.
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« Reply #41 on: 17 Jul 2017, 22:17 »

Except hes offering to advertise for them, which is a service.
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« Reply #42 on: 17 Jul 2017, 22:26 »

Comic's up!

Dick move, Clinton.  You manage to slide back twelve inches for every 13 you go forward.

He got shaken down by a waitress who provided simple advice.  He needs to assert himself more. 

And while I was curious about the Wendy's TM hand I think the Tom Servo model is a good choice. 
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« Reply #43 on: 17 Jul 2017, 22:58 »

Why do you not consider it a normal business negotiation?

Offering positive reviews for money? Really?

Except hes offering to advertise for them, which is a service.

It's bribery actually, Mister Madness.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3526 to 3530 (17th to 21st July 2017)
« Reply #44 on: 17 Jul 2017, 23:01 »

Except hes offering to advertise for them, which is a service.

But it's for work that's already been done!


We need a Miss Manners for haggling.  :psyduck:
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« Reply #45 on: 17 Jul 2017, 23:22 »

Well.

Rule number one for haggling is that you must be prepared to walk away from the deal if it's not right. Or at least to be able to bluff the person you're haggling with that you are.

The corollary to this rule is that it is too late to try and haggle after the service has already been performed. If he wanted to haggle, he should have done it back at Faye's place.

Obviously Faye's price was quite reasonable, or he simply would have turned her down.

I will just reiterate: representing paid advertising as an honest review is plain wrong. If you read review sites such as (to pick the first example that comes to my head) DC Rainmaker, who posts comprehensive reviews of GPS devices, he goes to great pains to assure readers that the device used for the review is returned and that he does not gain materially for reviewing the product. There's a reason for doing that. No-one would be happy if there was the slightest impression that perhaps a positive review was written, not because the product was good, but because the reviewer received compensation.

As an aside, I remember being with a friend who decided to haggle in a second hand bookstore. The price was already ridiculously cheap. He got a bit of a dirty look from both proprietor and from me.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3526 to 3530 (17th to 21st July 2017)
« Reply #46 on: 17 Jul 2017, 23:23 »

I'm in sort of two minds about Clinton and Faye's behaviour in this strip. Whilst I am a bit disappointed at Faye being so silly as to threaten a customer into giving a positive review, on the other hand, Clinton really had it coming for trying to sell her a positive review. IRL, the world of on-line business reviews has quite a significant dark side to it and this strip sums up this problem in many ways.

FWIW, though, it tells you a lot that Faye considers a 'good review' to be: "They do great work, but don't sass them as they get scary!" Come to think of it, that was her philosophy at Coffee of Doom too, so she's still very much the same person in any way that matters!

It's a rude move to negotiate about payment for parts and labor after the labor's already been done.

Precisely.  Now, if Clinton said something like "I'll do 100 positive posts if you agree to let me have 5% of the take from every customer who tells you: 'Clinton sent me'," then Faye agreed then this would be a negotiation for advertising (if an ethically dubious one).
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Re: WCDT Strips 3526 to 3530 (17th to 21st July 2017)
« Reply #47 on: 18 Jul 2017, 00:17 »

Authorial Intent Review here: Because the fourth wall is a lie and if I can't have immersion you shouldn't either.

Clinton is acting dodgy here partly because it's in character, yeah, but I feel like mostly to justify other people being a jerk to him and solidifying his role as 'butt monkey'. Scenes like this keep coming up so you don't feel as bad or taken out of the comic when a barista shakes him down for a hundred. It implies we're still not going to see him advance much as a character because Jeff finds him too useful filling his role, a superficial role which I'm increasingly growing frustrated with.

Also noting; I've been thinking Dora's increasing irrelevance to the comic salvaged by making her an investor, which gives more plausible reasons to bring her back from time to time with narrative significance. I was only thinking of it at the time as a way of creating tension between Faye and Bubbles, but it effectively brought Dora back in an unobtrusive way. This is a pretty slick trick that I'm super happy with.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3526 to 3530 (17th to 21st July 2017)
« Reply #48 on: 18 Jul 2017, 01:11 »

He got shaken down by a waitress who provided simple advice.  He needs to assert himself more. 

I think that was what inspired him to try to "assert himself more" with Faye.  :-/
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Re: WCDT Strips 3526 to 3530 (17th to 21st July 2017)
« Reply #49 on: 18 Jul 2017, 01:34 »

If we're going to break the fourth wall to explain Clinton's behaviour here, then see my sig.
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