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Sam becomes Faye's assistant
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Faye gets a clue and realizes Bubbles likes her
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Marten and Claire fluff
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Unexpected character returns!
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Coffee of DOOM stuff happens!
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Author Topic: WCDT Strips 3601-3605 (30rd October - 3rd November 2017)  (Read 42502 times)

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Re: WCDT Strips 3601-3605 (30rd October - 3rd November 2017)
« Reply #150 on: 03 Nov 2017, 07:50 »

Just to take the opposite stance, for once: Faye never expressed any interest in women. Even when she noticed Bubbles' booty, she still didn't. So there is nothing sure about how things will end up. It could end in a nightmare: could their friendship survive a move by Bubbles met by rejection from Faye?

http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=3475
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Re: WCDT Strips 3601-3605 (30rd October - 3rd November 2017)
« Reply #151 on: 03 Nov 2017, 08:16 »

Friendships do survive.  Almost 20 years ago, I finally worked up the courage to ask a friend out when we were meeting for coffee.  She wanted to tell me how she found someone (also a friend, and now her husband).  It was awkward and painful at the time, but bonds endure.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3601-3605 (30rd October - 3rd November 2017)
« Reply #152 on: 03 Nov 2017, 08:20 »

I am a 30YO in a house full of 18-22 college guys. The level of disgusting that is established in this house is epic. I've given up any attempts to keep this place clean beyond the basic minimum. Shorthairs in the shower are just a fact of life now. It only gets strange when they're an unnatural color, like purple or green.

My condolences, and I hope it gets better. I'm not spotless, but the place isn't a biohazard. Mostly. :venonat:

Mommas, don't let your babies grow up, to be messy.
Because they're risking disease, and they'll never be clean
So make them at least nod at hygiene.

Sadly, my experience is that most moms fail epically in teaching their boys to be clean. Moms may fight the good fight during their sons' younger years, but once the boys reach the teens years, the household succumbs to a kind of entropy (and unspoken agreement) where moms don't go in their teen boys' room without a hazmat suit, if at all, and the boys generally confine the mess to their rooms. Then when or if those boys move out, they don't clean their own place much unless a woman they want to bang is coming over, if then.

Even if they appear to have succeeded in raising non-messy boys, those boys tend to slack off on the cleanliness once they move out. So again, their bachelor pads end up messy. Doesn't help that many boys learn to tune out their moms' nagging at a fairly early age, and so these moms often throw up their hands and just do the cleaning themselves. Few moms find a clever way around that problem.

As for the Faybles ship, I must echo traroth and fire more torpedoes at it by saying Faye has shown no sexual interest in women, and her showing some admiration for Bubble's physique is not the same thing. If anything, Bubbles' feelings are far stronger in that regard, and may not be, and most likely won't be, reciprocated.

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Re: WCDT Strips 3601-3605 (30rd October - 3rd November 2017)
« Reply #153 on: 03 Nov 2017, 08:24 »

Faye showing no interest in women before doesn't mean not having any.

And not showing any in the strip doesn't mean not expressing any.

Do we even consider Bubbles, as an AI, on as binary a basis as being female?

And as a comic with a big focus on sexual minorities, I think that Faye discovering a curiosity in genders outside of cis males fits in pretty well as character development - I know I personally didn't explore other genders until relatively late in life, and I'm currently with an agender person and a genderqueer person.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3601-3605 (30rd October - 3rd November 2017)
« Reply #154 on: 03 Nov 2017, 08:26 »

Just to take the opposite stance, for once: Faye never expressed any interest in women. Even when she noticed Bubbles' booty, she still didn't. So there is nothing sure about how things will end up. It could end in a nightmare: could their friendship survive a move by Bubbles met by rejection from Faye?

http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=3475

Yeah, I'm with you here. I understand all the shipping and wishful thinking, both on this forum and in-comic, but Faye so far has shown only heterosexual tendencies towards romantic relationships, while Bubbles appears to be/identify as female in every way that matters.
I find it therefore somewhat odd that Claire is all in a tizzy with the possibility of Faybles, because she knows all these things as well and knows that Faye's romantic preference is highly unlikely to change. Bubbles being an AI barely matters, she still is for all intents and purposes, female.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3601-3605 (30rd October - 3rd November 2017)
« Reply #155 on: 03 Nov 2017, 08:35 »

Faye showing no interest in women before doesn't mean not having any.

And not showing any in the strip doesn't mean not expressing any.

Do we even consider Bubbles, as an AI, on as binary a basis as being female?

And as a comic with a big focus on sexual minorities, I think that Faye discovering a curiosity in genders outside of cis males fits in pretty well as character development - I know I personally didn't explore other genders until relatively late in life, and I'm currently with an agender person and a genderqueer person.

Is there a small possibility that Faye has romantic interests in females? Sure, but it's not very likely based on what we know of her.
Whether Bubbles as an AI is binary is of course an open question, but so far all AIs in-comic have shown a very clear binary tendency towards identifying with a gender.
Of course there is also the question of the level of romantic involvement one could choose. With an AI, perhaps a romantic involvement would not necessarily involve sex, but still include all other aspects.

Anyway, personally I don't think Faybles is likely to happen. I think it's more likely to develop into a storyline where Bubbles addresses her feelings, some conflict/drama might arise, and Bubbles may discover that the feelings for Faye may not necessarily be romantic, but may have developed due to Faye being more-or-less her 'savior' (for lack of a better word) as well as the first person she feels capable of emotionally opening up to.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3601-3605 (30rd October - 3rd November 2017)
« Reply #156 on: 03 Nov 2017, 08:36 »

I find it therefore somewhat odd that Claire is all in a tizzy with the possibility of Faybles, because she knows all these things as well and knows that Faye's romantic preference is highly unlikely to change. Bubbles being an AI barely matters, she still is for all intents and purposes, female.

Mostly this is because Claire's shipping filter works solely on 'they look cute together' and nothing else. Look at her reaction to Clinton and Elliott: There is no reason to believe that Clinton is even slightly queer and yet she SQUEED loud enough to send Bubbles into Red Alert at the thought of him and Elliott together.

That aside, I suspect that Claire's personal history has left her with a profound awareness of closets and the subconscious pressures to engage in externally 'normative' behaviour.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3601-3605 (30rd October - 3rd November 2017)
« Reply #157 on: 03 Nov 2017, 08:49 »

By no means am I saying Faybles (let's roll with that word) will fail. I'm only saying what we usually read on that forum, which is largely based on little hearts, little flowers and cute unicorns is not the only option. Bad things happen, even to good people. Sorry to be the killjoy, here.

But maybe they will fall in love and be happy ever after, who knows?
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Re: WCDT Strips 3601-3605 (30rd October - 3rd November 2017)
« Reply #158 on: 03 Nov 2017, 08:52 »

From the smile on Claire's face in the last panel, I think she's going to set Faye up with bubbles.

I was going to make a "Super Mario Bros" reference thanks to that last panel, but I guess this makes a lot more sense...
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Re: WCDT Strips 3601-3605 (30rd October - 3rd November 2017)
« Reply #159 on: 03 Nov 2017, 09:13 »

*If* Claire want to do something (and I'm not sure of that), she could open up to Bubbles about that little chat she had with Faye. But that could really be risky if things go south later...
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Re: WCDT Strips 3601-3605 (30rd October - 3rd November 2017)
« Reply #160 on: 03 Nov 2017, 09:35 »

Speaking of firefighters... In panel 2, Faye is picking up Claire's book. And in panel 3, she turns it sideways. What kind of book is that?

Must be an atlas...

All the best books come with maps.

And, um, contours.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3601-3605 (30rd October - 3rd November 2017)
« Reply #161 on: 03 Nov 2017, 10:34 »

Speaking of firefighters... In panel 2, Faye is picking up Claire's book. And in panel 3, she turns it sideways. What kind of book is that?

Must be an atlas...

All the best books come with maps.

And, um, contours.
That cover looks almost old enough for membership in the Grand Army of the Republic.  IIRC, the Smiff Library where Claire works has one of the world's premier collections of Victorian porn, does it not?
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Re: WCDT Strips 3601-3605 (30rd October - 3rd November 2017)
« Reply #162 on: 03 Nov 2017, 14:28 »

Faye showing no interest in women before doesn't mean not having any.

And not showing any in the strip doesn't mean not expressing any.

Do we even consider Bubbles, as an AI, on as binary a basis as being female?

And as a comic with a big focus on sexual minorities, I think that Faye discovering a curiosity in genders outside of cis males fits in pretty well as character development - I know I personally didn't explore other genders until relatively late in life, and I'm currently with an agender person and a genderqueer person.

I assume this goes back to the comic a while back where Pintsize wasn't disturbed by the fact that he essentially ended up docking with another male set AI but was disturbed that he didn't recognize the gender settings of the AI until after the fact...
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Re: WCDT Strips 3601-3605 (30rd October - 3rd November 2017)
« Reply #163 on: 03 Nov 2017, 14:35 »

Oh yeah, this comic. It would be interesting if Jeph got into AI genders again. I wonder if it's more intricate now than how it was initially described.

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Re: WCDT Strips 3601-3605 (30rd October - 3rd November 2017)
« Reply #164 on: 03 Nov 2017, 14:39 »

Much as I adore the good ship Faybles, I have to ask- how much is Claire aware of Bubbles' feelings (or proto-feelings) at all? I can't remember any specific interaction where it was raised, but I may be wrong.

However, I can think of one well-built, caring non-bro single guy that Claire has encountered recently.

Guys, what if she's thinking of Elliot?
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Re: WCDT Strips 3601-3605 (30rd October - 3rd November 2017)
« Reply #165 on: 03 Nov 2017, 14:44 »

I think Claire's shipping of Bubbles and Faye has far more to do with Claire than either of the two people in question.

And bros might be muscular (I think "swole" is their term of trade), but they never strike me as particularly heroic.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3601-3605 (30rd October - 3rd November 2017)
« Reply #166 on: 03 Nov 2017, 15:25 »

You'd be surprised how flexible people's sexuality can be.

For ease of a cis-hetero world that likes things simplified, I label myself gay if the situation comes up. But what isn't said but is truth is that I'm also open to relationships with transgender males regardless of their transition status, and even simply women with very traditionally 'masculine' features, least as how I read them. It took me till the age of about 28 before I could even come to terms with that idea, after being out of the closet as a homosexual male pretty much the moment I have puberty driven thoughts.

So yeah, the cliche "Everyone knows but me" cliche can happen, even late and life, and even to people who seem to have solidly established themselves somewhere on the Kinsey scale, only to find they're rather further in one direction than they've ever let on, or even knew themselves.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3601-3605 (30rd October - 3rd November 2017)
« Reply #167 on: 03 Nov 2017, 16:06 »

The gentlest way for Claire to break that is to just casually mention: "You do know you just described Bubbles, right?"

That said, the good (well, it's at least "not problematic") ship Faybles hasn't launched yet, Claire... don't sink it while trying to get it out of port.

Welcome, new person!

The gentlest but dropped onto Faye's obliviousness also the most dramatic. I have a clear mental picture of Faye's facial expression after hearing that.

The information we have about AI gender identity goes back to a time when Jeph was thinking of the AIs quite differently from the current world-build. If it's still valid, though, Bubbles can switch her gender identity at will in her configuration settings. Then her presentation is something she can change with a trip to the store or some work in the shop.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3601-3605 (30rd October - 3rd November 2017)
« Reply #168 on: 03 Nov 2017, 18:06 »

Muscly and heroic, and no longer in dangerous work. Bubbles.

Or... Elliot?

That would be a hell of a swerve by Jeph if so!

On the side - Claire has been particularly annoying this week; the attitude with Marten, hair-ball in the shower and back to her shipping prying poking nonsense. She caused problems before but she just can't help herself. It's even more dangerous considering Bubbles has over time found Faye to be the one person she can completely trust and open up to, and Claire egging Bubbles on to make a move could end in rejection and the complete personality destruction of Bubbles. Or it could go well.

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Re: WCDT Strips 3601-3605 (30rd October - 3rd November 2017)
« Reply #169 on: 03 Nov 2017, 18:13 »

The gentlest way for Claire to break that is to just casually mention: "You do know you just described Bubbles, right?"

That said, the good (well, it's at least "not problematic") ship Faybles hasn't launched yet, Claire... don't sink it while trying to get it out of port.

Welcome, new person!

The gentlest but dropped onto Faye's obliviousness also the most dramatic. I have a clear mental picture of Faye's facial expression after hearing that.

The information we have about AI gender identity goes back to a time when Jeph was thinking of the AIs quite differently from the current world-build. If it's still valid, though, Bubbles can switch her gender identity at will in her configuration settings. Then her presentation is something she can change with a trip to the store or some work in the shop.

That is a gender ethics can of worms that I don't think Jeph is willing to open, and the fact that the one partner that Pintsize has been known to have was deeply attached to their Male gender enough to be offended that Pintsize didn't realize it means that a shift isn't so easy. Pintsize might be a dumb ass, but it seems like AI's very much have adapted gender identity as a natural set up as much as any human who has an innate sense of their own gender.

Then again, there's gender-queer, and gender fluid people so maybe I'm just putting my foot in my mouth. But somehow I feel like it'd be too easy an out, and a big snub to Claire and other people all around if Bubbles had such an easy way to side step a gender issue.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3601-3605 (30th October - 3rd November 2017)
« Reply #170 on: 03 Nov 2017, 19:03 »

Meanwhile, I'm still getting frustrated that no one changed the "30rd" in the thread title.

Don't bite your tongue too much, there, Claire. You might lose your sense of taste...
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Re: WCDT Strips 3601-3605 (30rd October - 3rd November 2017)
« Reply #171 on: 03 Nov 2017, 21:44 »

Speaking of sexual preferences it would be nice to see Faye's sister and mom show up again.  Faye's mom interacting with Pintsize and/or Veronica could be very interesting.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3601-3605 (30rd October - 3rd November 2017)
« Reply #172 on: 03 Nov 2017, 22:41 »

I move that Claire's new name be branded "The Shipyard".
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Re: WCDT Strips 3601-3605 (30rd October - 3rd November 2017)
« Reply #173 on: 04 Nov 2017, 02:31 »

Well, it's better than "The Dry Dock".
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Re: WCDT Strips 3601-3605 (30rd October - 3rd November 2017)
« Reply #174 on: 04 Nov 2017, 09:14 »

What's the worst that could happen?
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Re: WCDT Strips 3601-3605 (30rd October - 3rd November 2017)
« Reply #175 on: 04 Nov 2017, 10:29 »

My condolences, and I hope it gets better. I'm not spotless, but the place isn't a biohazard. Mostly. :venonat:

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Re: WCDT Strips 3601-3605 (30rd October - 3rd November 2017)
« Reply #176 on: 04 Nov 2017, 12:04 »

The gentlest way for Claire to break that is to just casually mention: "You do know you just described Bubbles, right?"

Technically, Claire was the one who did the describing, not Faye. A slightly different wording is all you need to fix it, though. Something like "You do know that description fits Bubbles, right?"
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Re: WCDT Strips 3601-3605 (30rd October - 3rd November 2017)
« Reply #177 on: 04 Nov 2017, 12:33 »

You'd be surprised how flexible people's sexuality can be.

For ease of a cis-hetero world that likes things simplified, I label myself gay if the situation comes up. But what isn't said but is truth is that I'm also open to relationships with transgender males regardless of their transition status, and even simply women with very traditionally 'masculine' features, least as how I read them. It took me till the age of about 28 before I could even come to terms with that idea, after being out of the closet as a homosexual male pretty much the moment I have puberty driven thoughts.

So yeah, the cliche "Everyone knows but me" cliche can happen, even late and life, and even to people who seem to have solidly established themselves somewhere on the Kinsey scale, only to find they're rather further in one direction than they've ever let on, or even knew themselves.

I posted about this before, but I feel it bears repeating. I too, considered myself pretty much straight for most of my life, never really gave it much thought, then after breaking up with my boyfriend of 10 years at 28 I started to come to terms with the fact that I had more than just an aesthetic interest in women. Now I'm 31 and quite comfortable with calling myself bisexual, so yes, it can and does happen.

That being said, I noticed Jeph has taken a lot of care to keep things ambiguous - not regarding Bubbles' feelings, I think those are pretty clear, but Faye's: her apparent obliviousness to Bubbles' interest on one hand, little details like her blushing and smiling at the memory of Bubbles calling her beautiful on the other. Just a reaction to getting a compliment from one of her closest friends, or more? Time will tell, but it's clear Jeph wants us to wonder.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3601-3605 (30rd October - 3rd November 2017)
« Reply #179 on: 04 Nov 2017, 22:43 »

Guys, what if she's thinking of Elliot?

Elliot isn't retired from being a bouncer. He's still a bouncer.

So no.

Edit, regarding Faye's previously demonstrated inclinations toward sexual relationships with other women, or lack thereof: you do know romantic relationships don't need to be sexual, right? Just sayin'.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3601-3605 (30rd October - 3rd November 2017)
« Reply #180 on: 04 Nov 2017, 23:37 »

Re: AI gender:

https://twitter.com/jephjacques/status/926585884606128129

And, while this is totally trolling...

https://twitter.com/jephjacques/status/926506741495459841

Actually, except for rare extremes, most sexual scientists think EVERYONE is bi. So, yeah.  :-D

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Re: WCDT Strips 3601-3605 (30rd October - 3rd November 2017)
« Reply #181 on: 04 Nov 2017, 23:53 »

Edit, regarding Faye's previously demonstrated inclinations toward sexual relationships with other women, or lack thereof: you do know romantic relationships don't need to be sexual, right? Just sayin'.

Who is this replying to, out of curiosity? Because I think everyone in this thread knows that.
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« Reply #182 on: 05 Nov 2017, 06:44 »

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Actually, except for rare extremes, most sexual scientists think EVERYONE is bi. So, yeah.  :-D

Uhmmmmh - They do?  :-o
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Re: WCDT Strips 3601-3605 (30rd October - 3rd November 2017)
« Reply #183 on: 05 Nov 2017, 08:15 »

It's a continuous spectrum; very few people are exactly at one end or the other (even of those who think they are).
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« Reply #184 on: 05 Nov 2017, 09:48 »

It's a continuous spectrum; very few people are exactly at one end or the other (even of those who think they are).

Yeah, I knew that, but I always assumed "being bi" to be a wee bit different from ... y'know ...

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Re: WCDT Strips 3601-3605 (30rd October - 3rd November 2017)
« Reply #185 on: 05 Nov 2017, 12:22 »

A lot of bi people have a preference for one gender or another, actually. :) It's not always a 50/50 deal. (If that's what you were referring to.)
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Re: WCDT Strips 3601-3605 (30rd October - 3rd November 2017)
« Reply #186 on: 05 Nov 2017, 12:47 »

A lot of bi people have a preference for one gender or another, actually. :) It's not always a 50/50 deal. (If that's what you were referring to.)

No, I meant that if everybody except for the Kinsey 0s and 6s were bi, shouldn't there be a lot more people who openly identify & live as 'bi'? Your number on the K-scale is one thing, how you live and what you identify as is another is what I meant? (obviously the terms overlap, but are they identical?)

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Re: WCDT Strips 3601-3605 (30rd October - 3rd November 2017)
« Reply #187 on: 05 Nov 2017, 12:59 »

I imagine that at K1 the attraction to same-sex is fairly rare and easy to rationalise away unless the person is particularly receptive to the idea or the attraction to that person is so overwhelming that it cannot be ignored or misunderstood.
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« Reply #188 on: 05 Nov 2017, 13:17 »

A lot of bi people have a preference for one gender or another, actually. :) It's not always a 50/50 deal. (If that's what you were referring to.)

No, I meant that if everybody except for the Kinsey 0s and 6s were bi, shouldn't there be a lot more people who openly identify & live as 'bi'? Your number on the K-scale is one thing, how you live and what you identify as is another is what I meant? (obviously the terms overlap, but are they identical?)

It’s called “bi erasure” — bisexual people don’t exist and if they do they’re weird freaks who can’t achieve fidelity because they would still be attracted to the other gender (the one their partner doesn’t have) and so be inspired to cheat relentlessly.
Or, that’s how they are commonly portrayed in media (when they are at all), so most bisexual people either ignore half of their preference or deliberately don’t express themselves as such when they are looking for a partner.
The worst part is that publicly bisexual people regularly get harassment and abuse from both “straight” and “gay” individuals and groups, because they “won’t pick a side” are “secretly gay|straight and pretending” and worse which I will not repeat here.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3601-3605 (30rd October - 3rd November 2017)
« Reply #189 on: 05 Nov 2017, 14:14 »

Sometimes people don't know they experience attraction for a particular gender. I've read a bunch of anecdotal stuff about how a lot of bi and pan women didn't realise their finding other women aesthetically pleasing was attraction for a long time, due to the different socialisation of girls and boys. It's much more acceptable for women to compliment each other than it is for men, without people thinking there's something sexual or romantic to it. I've heard a lot of stories about women saying they confused liking a woman's body shape or outfit for wanting to be like them when they really wanted to be with them.

Women also are given more leeway socially for experimentation which can lead to, "I'm a straight woman who sometimes gets romantic or sexual with other women." Not that anyone is obligated to identify a certain way due to their experiences.

Plus regardless of gender, a lot of people think being bi or pan is just a step on the way to realising you're gay. Especially for men who get a lot of judgement for experimenting and exploring their sexuality. There's a lot of pressure to know who you are and have that identity be rigid. Experimenting and exploration, if done at all, is supposed to be something done when you're young and if you don't get that chance, you might never discover that part of yourself or feel safe or comfortable enough to do so. Even though getting to know yourself is a lifelong process.

Identifying as bi or pan isn't as simple as, "Oh, I've been interested in more than one gender at some point. Guess I'm [identity]."

The Kinsey scale is widely referenced but it's very based in the gender binary, which can complicate and confuse things even more.

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Re: WCDT Strips 3601-3605 (30rd October - 3rd November 2017)
« Reply #190 on: 05 Nov 2017, 15:29 »

Speaking of sexual preferences it would be nice to see Faye's sister and mom show up again.  Faye's mom interacting with Pintsize and/or Veronica could be very interesting.

If memory serves (my archive-fu fails me), didn't Faye say her mom was Baptist fundamentalist?

If so, hopefully she's become a recovering fundamentalist by the time she shows up.

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Re: WCDT Strips 3601-3605 (30rd October - 3rd November 2017)
« Reply #191 on: 05 Nov 2017, 15:37 »

It's a continuous spectrum; very few people are exactly at one end or the other (even of those who think they are).

Yeah, I knew that, but I always assumed "being bi" to be a wee bit different from ... y'know ...

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You know how some folks that are bi have a gender preference? It's sort of like that, except the gender preference is quite dominantly pronounced.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3601-3605 (30rd October - 3rd November 2017)
« Reply #192 on: 05 Nov 2017, 15:52 »

Speaking of sexual preferences it would be nice to see Faye's sister and mom show up again.  Faye's mom interacting with Pintsize and/or Veronica could be very interesting.

If memory serves (my archive-fu fails me), didn't Faye say her mom was Baptist fundamentalist?

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Re: WCDT Strips 3601-3605 (30rd October - 3rd November 2017)
« Reply #193 on: 05 Nov 2017, 16:21 »

On the other hand Faye's mom took the Baptist rules against alcohol seriously and holds the church as an important anchor in life.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3601-3605 (30rd October - 3rd November 2017)
« Reply #194 on: 05 Nov 2017, 16:49 »

As someone who grew up getting a Catholic schooling and then married someone who had an actually secular schooling, each person's definition of very religious or not can be very subjective. School life was praying three times a day, but at home, religion wasn't talked about and neither encouraged nor discouraged so I felt like my family wasn't very religious. Then long after realising I was atheist, I learned there's schools where you don't start the day by praying? Huh?  :psyduck:

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« Reply #195 on: 06 Nov 2017, 01:45 »

Speaking of sexual preferences it would be nice to see Faye's sister and mom show up again.  Faye's mom interacting with Pintsize and/or Veronica could be very interesting.

If memory serves (my archive-fu fails me), didn't Faye say her mom was Baptist fundamentalist?

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« Reply #196 on: 06 Nov 2017, 01:50 »

At the risk of sounding horribly naive & sheltered:

A lot of bi people have a preference for one gender or another, actually. :) It's not always a 50/50 deal. (If that's what you were referring to.)

No, I meant that if everybody except for the Kinsey 0s and 6s were bi, shouldn't there be a lot more people who openly identify & live as 'bi'? Your number on the K-scale is one thing, how you live and what you identify as is another is what I meant? (obviously the terms overlap, but are they identical?)

It’s called “bi erasure” — bisexual people don’t exist and if they do they’re weird freaks who can’t achieve fidelity because they would still be attracted to the other gender (the one their partner doesn’t have) and so be inspired to cheat relentlessly.
Or, that’s how they are commonly portrayed in media (when they are at all), so most bisexual people either ignore half of their preference or deliberately don’t express themselves as such when they are looking for a partner.
The worst part is that publicly bisexual people regularly get harassment and abuse from both “straight” and “gay” individuals and groups, because they “won’t pick a side” are “secretly gay|straight and pretending” and worse which I will not repeat here.

That's ... all manners of daft & cruel!  :cry: :x

Sometimes people don't know they experience attraction for a particular gender. I've read a bunch of anecdotal stuff about how a lot of bi and pan women didn't realise their finding other women aesthetically pleasing was attraction for a long time, due to the different socialisation of girls and boys. It's much more acceptable for women to compliment each other than it is for men, without people thinking there's something sexual or romantic to it. I've heard a lot of stories about women saying they confused liking a woman's body shape or outfit for wanting to be like them when they really wanted to be with them.

Women also are given more leeway socially for experimentation which can lead to, "I'm a straight woman who sometimes gets romantic or sexual with other women." Not that anyone is obligated to identify a certain way due to their experiences.
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You know, that's sort of how it feels for me, albeit very rare & attenuated - I 'get' that type of same-sex attraction, as in: Having heard my 'inner commenter' going: "Gee, I'm wondering if your looking at that guy-butt is really due your finding it 'aesthetically pleasing', Mr. JustanArtCritic, or if ..." (Yes, sometimes I'm having discussions with people in my head - all sorts of interesting folk in there, don't judge me!), but if you'd put a guy and a gal with cute butts in front of me, there'd be no competition or confusion at all.

Which is why I figure that I might be a Kinsey 1.05, or even a 1.18, but don't really see myself as 'bi'. Not even 'bi-curious', truth be told. And I wouldn't apply the label to myself, not even in private - not out of fear of public reprisals (though yes, I'm not curious about that part - Maybe I'm a bit naive, but I'm not daft. Most of the time, at least ...) - but because I always figured that 'bi' belongs to the people who make that choice for themselves. Like: "Kinsey is the type of food you might find interesting at any point in your life - straight, gay and bi are where you invite your sweetheart for dinner"

Not 'Euwwwh', more like ... respect for other kids toys belonging to them? (I grew up with a baby sister. Toy-ownership was a very important part of our upbringing ...).

I wasn't aware of bi-erasure and ... yeah, that's nasty shite.  :-\ And all manners of stupid.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3601-3605 (30rd October - 3rd November 2017)
« Reply #197 on: 06 Nov 2017, 02:07 »

they’re weird freaks who can’t achieve fidelity because they would still be attracted to the other gender (the one their partner doesn’t have) and so be inspired to cheat relentlessly.

Well, by the same token, clearly straight and gay people can't be faithful either, because they'd be instantly attracted to all of the half of the human race who are of the category they fancy... 

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« Reply #198 on: 06 Nov 2017, 03:50 »

Sad to say, there are straight people who use something akin to that reasoning as an excuse for their infidelity - they just can't help themselves. Men (in my experience) do this a lot, though I've encountered women who use this kind of reasoning too.

People also use that excuse for even worse behavior.


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« Reply #199 on: 06 Nov 2017, 04:38 »

People also use that excuse for even worse behavior.

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