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Favourite part of last week?

Clinton and Elliot getting to know each other
- 19 (37.3%)
Tall bread tales
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Sentient orbs of light
- 3 (5.9%)
Brun's happiness
- 11 (21.6%)
Brun's amusing obliviousness to Clinton's and Elliot's feelings
- 10 (19.6%)
I can't believe that you didn't mention ....
- 5 (9.8%)

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Re: WCDT strips 3706-3710 (26th to 30th March 2018)
« Reply #100 on: 28 Mar 2018, 10:50 »

And I felt obliged to point out that neither the comic nor Brun nor the forumgoers were "using mental diversity as an excuse." That's a nonsense accusation, and completely different from saying she is irritating (which you have every right to say).

The first response to snufflebottoms saying that Brun's actions were annoying them was "You don't know what it is like to be on the Spectrum do you?"
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Re: WCDT strips 3706-3710 (26th to 30th March 2018)
« Reply #101 on: 28 Mar 2018, 11:47 »

The more I see of Elliot, the more I wonder how someone so insecure manages to throw enough of his weight around to do his job. I mean, the guy's a big marshmallow.

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« Reply #102 on: 28 Mar 2018, 12:21 »

The more I see of Elliot, the more I wonder how someone so insecure manages to throw enough of his weight around to do his job. I mean, the guy's a big marshmallow.
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Re: WCDT strips 3706-3710 (26th to 30th March 2018)
« Reply #103 on: 28 Mar 2018, 12:32 »

If he's anything like me, he's got like 2 activities he can just exude confidence while doing (presumably acting as a bouncer is one for him) and then as soon as that stops he's back to his insecure marshmallow self.
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« Reply #104 on: 28 Mar 2018, 13:13 »

There's a world of difference between acting for yourself, in a social context, and acting in a professional capacity. For the latter, one important factor is that you're officially mandated to be where you are, and do what you do. That being cleared up, there's just the question of actual capability for the job in hand.
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Re: WCDT strips 3706-3710 (26th to 30th March 2018)
« Reply #105 on: 28 Mar 2018, 13:55 »

And I felt obliged to point out that neither the comic nor Brun nor the forumgoers were "using mental diversity as an excuse." That's a nonsense accusation, and completely different from saying she is irritating (which you have every right to say).

The first response to snufflebottoms saying that Brun's actions were annoying them was "You don't know what it is like to be on the Spectrum do you?"

Yes, I saw it.

I'm actually getting annoyed with Brun at this point.
You don't know what it's like to be on the spectrum, do you?

I may be "high functioning" but the social stuff can be a pain in the ass sometimes. Especially when nobody wants to be direct or open about things. So, it's pretty exciting when I'm pretty sure I interpreted a situation correctly in spite of that. Though like Brun, sometimes I'm dead wrong in my conclusion(s).

They were referring to a completely different behaviour to the one you're talking about.
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Re: WCDT strips 3706-3710 (26th to 30th March 2018)
« Reply #106 on: 28 Mar 2018, 14:11 »

Sorry for the double post.

The more I see of Elliot, the more I wonder how someone so insecure manages to throw enough of his weight around to do his job. I mean, the guy's a big marshmallow.

I just wanted to add to the previous replies... I also think that being a marshmallow oddly qualifies him for the job. He's professional enough to do what must be done when confronting undesirable behaviour, but's he's sensitive enough to use his words when he can and minimal force when he must.
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Re: WCDT strips 3706-3710 (26th to 30th March 2018)
« Reply #107 on: 28 Mar 2018, 14:48 »

There's a world of difference between acting for yourself, in a social context, and acting in a professional capacity. For the latter, one important factor is that you're officially mandated to be where you are, and do what you do. That being cleared up, there's just the question of actual capability for the job in hand.

I used to have severe social anxiety, but I found that the biggest thing was that I had problems when I DIDN'T know what I was supposed to be doing. I ran security for several large cons, and that kind of "this is what you are supposed to do" bit helps a lot.

Once I knew what I was supposed to be doing, it was easy to do it. Even confronting people doing things wrong and escorting people, telling people to clear hallways, or form orderly lines.

The big thing was that I always felt out of place and felt like everyone knew I shouldn't be there. Once I had a defined place, that feeling disappeared.

Actually, this helped me get over my social anxiety in general as well for the most part.
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Re: WCDT strips 3706-3710 (26th to 30th March 2018)
« Reply #108 on: 28 Mar 2018, 15:27 »

The past few comics felt a bit familiar to me. I have autism spectrum, and I remember being called out on things including standing too close to people. In secondary/high school I was told that and I guess that made me second guess myself more, and notice the facts. Which are that they seem to hug all the time, and are standing close as well. So the conclusion is that they just say that because it's me and they don't like me. Also I had to stay close to be able to hear what they were saying because I can't hear so good (actually I hear everything with these wolf ears, including sounds in bathroom down the hall, hearing exactly who is walking though the hallway, who isn't washing their hands,... except I can't make out words said at a lower volume, or even hear different things).

I've seen people flirting in a similar fashion like Brun did (being that close), and the consent seemed implied, no one asks permission to flirt first. Also smell can be something wonderful, ever since reading 'The perfume' and a biology lesson about smell, I've found comfort in other people's smell, till a point you're smitten about them (or at least people tell me I am, or I tell myself(including once as a voice in my head)). But talking about that always seemed to creep the other person out, while all I need is to be close enough (though not that close) to be able to smell that, taking any action that could compromise that, including talking about feelings or love, would be something to be avoided. Which in turn resorted me to having to simulate love in my head instead.

I've found that talking about people's 'behavior' feels kind of strange, as if it's something very intimate and of yourself, and not something that's bad or wrong according some artificial norm. It breaks my heart sometimes hearing like person X is too direct(speaks before thinking) and that they have to correct them, effectively limiting their personality, curbing their enthusiasm,free will,being themselves... There is no one way people should be acting, and mistakes can be made but that's normal.

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Re: WCDT strips 3706-3710 (26th to 30th March 2018)
« Reply #109 on: 28 Mar 2018, 15:37 »

There's a world of difference between acting for yourself, in a social context, and acting in a professional capacity. For the latter, one important factor is that you're officially mandated to be where you are, and do what you do. That being cleared up, there's just the question of actual capability for the job in hand.

I tend to find big guys like Elliot have a molifying effect. Perhaps it's the realization (If you're sober enough to think) that this guy can pick you up by the back of the neck and calmly walk you right out of the building like a disobedient puppy. Being that physically advantaged, and having any empathy at all makes them in turn very hyper aware of what they can do, and they tend to work extra hard to be careful, gentle, and understanding of situations. More than once I've had the "teddy bear" type of guy talk me out of anxiety r  deescalate my bad behavior. A big squishy hug works wonders for anxious/angry types like me.

Prolly why I really want to see Elliot and Clinton together, as I identify with someone as nerdy, awkward, and unsure of his situation as he is.
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Re: WCDT strips 3706-3710 (26th to 30th March 2018)
« Reply #110 on: 28 Mar 2018, 18:09 »

Brun crashes through social boundaries.

Here's a potential non-medical explanation.

She's afflicted with being a character in a webcomic where much of the humor is about boundary violations.
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Re: WCDT strips 3706-3710 (26th to 30th March 2018)
« Reply #111 on: 28 Mar 2018, 18:16 »

Honestly, that also explains the behavior of Emily and Melon and Pintsize and Punchbot and Hannelore and...
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Re: WCDT strips 3706-3710 (26th to 30th March 2018)
« Reply #112 on: 28 Mar 2018, 19:29 »

That seems a bit Questionable.
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« Reply #113 on: 28 Mar 2018, 20:12 »

I feel like I should recognize that couple in the last panel, but for the life of me...
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« Reply #114 on: 28 Mar 2018, 20:15 »

Since Brün is not there, I assume they are in the Men's and Clinton has finally been able to pee.
And Elliot's "It's complicated" echoes Brün's "They really mean 'I don't want to explain it to you'".
Try, Elliot. I don't think Clinton will judge you.

Suddenly the comments stopped making sense.... Oh, there's a new comic up.
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Re: WCDT strips 3706-3710 (26th to 30th March 2018)
« Reply #115 on: 28 Mar 2018, 20:30 »

There really is no worse torture than having a crush on a friend that has no idea...The torture, I know it well. There there Elliot.
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Re: WCDT strips 3706-3710 (26th to 30th March 2018)
« Reply #116 on: 28 Mar 2018, 20:34 »

I really, REALLY don't think Elliot should confess his feelings to Clinton. It will make things awkward and ruin their friendship. He's already reasonably sure that Clinton doesn't like guys, it really would be best not to do this.

And I say this as a non straight woman who made the mistake of liking straight women way way way way too many times. Ack.
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« Reply #117 on: 28 Mar 2018, 21:33 »

Elliot, you're like 6 foot 6, 300 lbs, with less than 10% body fat. I don't think you need to worry that people won't think you're tough and scary. A Bengal tiger can be both adorable and terrifying at the same time.
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« Reply #118 on: 28 Mar 2018, 22:20 »

Awww, Clinton's at the "I LOVE YOU MAN" stage of drunkenness - which must be really uncomfortable for Elliot!

What should Elliot do?

Try to maintain the illusion of being a tough and scary bouncer by shaking Clinton off and saying "I think you've had enough"?

...Or surrender to his impulses ?   :-D
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« Reply #119 on: 28 Mar 2018, 22:28 »

Elliot, you're like 6 foot 6, 300 lbs, with less than 10% body fat.

...what?  He looks kinda chunky to me.  I mean, I'm sure he's got plenty of muscle underneath, but it seems pretty clear it's not all muscle.
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« Reply #120 on: 28 Mar 2018, 23:04 »

I really, REALLY don't think Elliot should confess his feelings to Clinton. It will make things awkward and ruin their friendship. He's already reasonably sure that Clinton doesn't like guys, it really would be best not to do this.
If Elliot thinks Clinton is not interested in him, it's his own (overwhelming) insecurity talking. Clinton's never directly said he's not into guys, and he has been kinda flirting with Elliot, even if he didn't intend it that way. Elliot could find out if Clinton is at least open to the idea, without coming right out and declaring his feelings. If Clinton says "Ew, no, I'd never date a guy", then Elliot wouldn't have to mention who the guy in question is. That way they could remain friends.


There's also the likelihood that sooner or later Renee is going to slip and spill the beans, and it will get back to Clinton one way or another. Better that he hears it directly from Elliot.
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Re: WCDT strips 3706-3710 (26th to 30th March 2018)
« Reply #121 on: 28 Mar 2018, 23:08 »

That seems a bit Questionable.
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« Reply #122 on: 28 Mar 2018, 23:14 »

This is really a conversation that it's only possible to have whilst drunk. Most people have too many inhibitions to openly talk about crushes and personal insecurities whilst either (a) sober or (b) the other person being sober and therefore likely to react nervously to embarrassing personal revelations.

Awww, Clinton's at the "I LOVE YOU MAN" stage of drunkenness - which must be really uncomfortable for Elliot!

Yeah, I'm pretty sure that this is the only reason why Elliott feels able to discuss this. However, I also think Clinton being so demonstrative probably only made Elliott's emotional dilemma worse and more difficult to handle.
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« Reply #123 on: 28 Mar 2018, 23:21 »

Elliot, you're like 6 foot 6, 300 lbs, with less than 10% body fat.

...what?  He looks kinda chunky to me.  I mean, I'm sure he's got plenty of muscle underneath, but it seems pretty clear it's not all muscle.
If he's 300 lbs, 10% body fat is 30 lbs. That takes up a fair amount of space. If he didn't have as much muscle, that same 30 lbs of fat would be a higher percentage of his body weight.
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« Reply #124 on: 29 Mar 2018, 00:05 »

If the AS discussion is making people uncomfortable then absolutely we will have a look at how to adjust it.

That said, hi! I'm Thrillho, I have AS and in my friendship group we have our own acronym for when behaviour reflects my autism or that of the others in the group with it - ASAF, or 'autistic as fuck.'

Now obviously not everybody is going to be cool with that, which is why I mention it here not to introduce it but for some insight into how irreverent I am about it.

AS does not, as people have said, immediately equal rudeness, total ignorance towards social cues and facial expressions, etc. However, it certainly CAN mean that. I personally find that I can read emotions often better than neurotypical folks because I worked at understanding it once I was diagnosed at 17.

Brun is not AS in canon. She may be AS and diagnosed in Jeph's head, or AS and undiagnosed and has coincidentally never needed to moderate her behaviour (hello there, to my brother, who is definitely the latter). She could also be somebody who is both AS and totally lacks understanding of personal space and boundaries; I am sure we have all known neurotypical folks like that as well as folks on the spectrum.

If you are already someone who is not tremendously social, and are on the spectrum, especially undiagnosed, I think the situation is completely realistic.

Brun can have behaved like an asshole while still being given some understanding for having behaved like an asshole, and I am not even saying this scene in the comic is necessarily an example of that.
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Re: WCDT strips 3706-3710 (26th to 30th March 2018)
« Reply #125 on: 29 Mar 2018, 00:09 »

Elliot, you're like 6 foot 6, 300 lbs, with less than 10% body fat. I don't think you need to worry that people won't think you're tough and scary. A Bengal tiger can be both adorable and terrifying at the same time.
Case in point,
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« Reply #126 on: 29 Mar 2018, 00:16 »

And I felt obliged to point out that neither the comic nor Brun nor the forumgoers were "using mental diversity as an excuse." That's a nonsense accusation, and completely different from saying she is irritating (which you have every right to say).

The first response to snufflebottoms saying that Brun's actions were annoying them was "You don't know what it is like to be on the Spectrum do you?"

Yes, I saw it.

I'm actually getting annoyed with Brun at this point.
You don't know what it's like to be on the spectrum, do you?

I may be "high functioning" but the social stuff can be a pain in the ass sometimes. Especially when nobody wants to be direct or open about things. So, it's pretty exciting when I'm pretty sure I interpreted a situation correctly in spite of that. Though like Brun, sometimes I'm dead wrong in my conclusion(s).

They were referring to a completely different behaviour to the one you're talking about.
Thank you.

BTW, it was meant as an actual question, not a criticism. Snufflebottoms declined to answer, so I wasn't going to pursue the topic ant further.
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« Reply #127 on: 29 Mar 2018, 01:14 »

I really, REALLY don't think Elliot should confess his feelings to Clinton. It will make things awkward and ruin their friendship. He's already reasonably sure that Clinton doesn't like guys, it really would be best not to do this.

He's been burned once already - not sure he's going to rush into confessions of that nature again in a hurry. Time will tell, I guess.
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Re: WCDT strips 3706-3710 (26th to 30th March 2018)
« Reply #128 on: 29 Mar 2018, 01:31 »

I really, REALLY don't think Elliot should confess his feelings to Clinton. It will make things awkward and ruin their friendship.

I feel that sells Clinton a bit short. He made an honest attempt to patch things up with Emily in 3308. He is at least trying to have a healthy attitude about an unrequited crush. I think that put on the other side of things he could do just as well. Similarly, Elliot's relationship with Renee hasn't seemed to have been impacted by her own feelings towards him.

They've both done well on the other side of things, I think if Elliot confessed and Clinton didn't feel the same way, they could work through it. They'd clearly both be able to empathize with the other having been in that position.
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« Reply #129 on: 29 Mar 2018, 01:44 »

Elliot, you're like 6 foot 6, 300 lbs, with less than 10% body fat.

...what?  He looks kinda chunky to me.  I mean, I'm sure he's got plenty of muscle underneath, but it seems pretty clear it's not all muscle.

I'm a stocky 5'5" (65cm) and 226 lbs (~102.5 kg), so the estimate feels like it lines up to me.

Any tall guys with broad shoulders want to weigh in this?
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« Reply #130 on: 29 Mar 2018, 02:03 »


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« Reply #131 on: 29 Mar 2018, 02:19 »

So I would like to project all over Clinton for a bit. I consider myself "mostly" straight but I'm fairly sure that any outside observer probably views me as straight without a "mostly" to modify it (including family/friends). I've only dated men and we don't tend to talk about crushes in my social circles much. So until I hear clearly from Clinton himself, I will not rule out the possibility that he might be open to dating Elliot, even if he is (in general) more likely to be attracted to women.

I don't think Elliot will ask Clinton out though as I think Elliot is too shy. Instead I feel like this arc is heading towards Clinton asking Elliot out - not immediately, but down the track. First he has to connect Elliot's crush to himself and then there might be some soul searching over whether he (Clinton) is interested in men as well as women. But finally Clinton decides he would like to ask Elliot out.

I can see various possibilities for Clinton getting a clue about Elliot's feelings:
1) Talking about this evening the next day with Claire and Marten and one of them lets slip the idea Marten had.
2) Brun comes into the scene and misinterprets Clinton hugging Elliot - and sorting out the misunderstanding leads to realisations
3) Clinton is pondering Elliot's sentence at a later time and has a light bulb moment along the lines of "Wait, Elliot said please don't hug me at work - does that mean he wouldn't mind outside of work? Am I the guy he thinks is really cute?

But if I am wrong about this and this arc is leading to something involving all three of them (a triad or a V ), that would also be good.
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« Reply #132 on: 29 Mar 2018, 02:33 »

It's still Thursday, right? I can still hope for a Friday, right?
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« Reply #133 on: 29 Mar 2018, 02:54 »

It's still Thursday, right? I can still hope for a Friday, right?
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Re: WCDT strips 3706-3710 (26th to 30th March 2018)
« Reply #134 on: 29 Mar 2018, 02:58 »

Elliot, you're like 6 foot 6, 300 lbs, with less than 10% body fat.

...what?  He looks kinda chunky to me.  I mean, I'm sure he's got plenty of muscle underneath, but it seems pretty clear it's not all muscle.

I'm a stocky 5'5" (65cm) and 226 lbs (~102.5 kg), so the estimate feels like it lines up to me.

Any tall guys with broad shoulders want to weigh in this?
I actually am 6'2 with broad shoulders. My nieces have used me as a jungle gym kinda like Claire and Brun did with Elliot, though I'm not nearly as muscular as he is. I figure I'm about 20% body fat. That's why I figured my estimate for him was pretty close.
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Re: WCDT strips 3706-3710 (26th to 30th March 2018)
« Reply #135 on: 29 Mar 2018, 03:36 »

Damn... now I'm torn between Clinton/Brun, Clinton/Roko, and Clinton/Elliot D:
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Re: WCDT strips 3706-3710 (26th to 30th March 2018)
« Reply #136 on: 29 Mar 2018, 04:28 »

I know shipping is discouraged... But OMG. OMG. Cutest potential couple! Even better prospect? Adorable poly trio. Of course really anything that happens pleases me. I'm just here for the story. :)
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« Reply #137 on: 29 Mar 2018, 04:28 »

Damn... now I'm torn between Clinton/Brun, Clinton/Roko, and Clinton/Elliot D:

If Clinton’s dating life is anything like mine was at the same age, he’s going to get asked out by all three, and Emily will inform him that she has time for that second date now, and also a couple of other random women will express interest. Because for me it was always months or years of drought punctuated by sudden inexplicable floods.
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« Reply #138 on: 29 Mar 2018, 04:34 »

Damn... now I'm torn between Clinton/Brun, Clinton/Roko, and Clinton/Elliot D:

If Clinton’s dating life is anything like mine was at the same age, he’s going to get asked out by all three, and Emily will inform him that she has time for that second date now, and also a couple of other random women will express interest. Because for me it was always months or years of drought punctuated by sudden inexplicable floods.

Ha. If it was like mine, he'd get asked out by all of these people at the same time, but would be unable to go out with any of them, because he was engaged to a toxic (luckily soon-to-be ex) fiancé. Then when he broke off the engagement, everyone who asked him out would be in relationships or not good places to date.  :evil:
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Re: WCDT strips 3706-3710 (26th to 30th March 2018)
« Reply #139 on: 29 Mar 2018, 04:40 »

stuff

just wanted to say no hard feelings.


Also, Clinton = Faye & Elliot = Bubbles.
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« Reply #140 on: 29 Mar 2018, 05:03 »

Elliot, you're like 6 foot 6, 300 lbs, with less than 10% body fat.

...what?  He looks kinda chunky to me.  I mean, I'm sure he's got plenty of muscle underneath, but it seems pretty clear it's not all muscle.

I'm a stocky 5'5" (65cm) and 226 lbs (~102.5 kg), so the estimate feels like it lines up to me.

Any tall guys with broad shoulders want to weigh in this?

Let's put it this way.  I'm a big guy.  Never been tiny, 6 foot 2, little bit taller with my boots on.  I still wear t-shirts and jeans that I used to wear when I was in high school.  Center for the Football team back then.  Now, Security Director for an R&D plant, hanging out at biker bars and gatherings when I'm not at work.  Most people guess me around 210, or 220 pounds when the topic comes up and then don't believe me when I tell them 340.  It actually won me quite a bit of money at one party.  No one believing me, me drunk enough to ignore my self-esteem issues and start taking bets, then sending one of the guys to get the shipping scale out of the warehouse lol. 

It really depends on your build and frame.  I know a LOT of big guys.  Some of them look good, carry it well, while someone else who's same weight and has it filling out different areas?  Not so much.
Elliot on the other hand, tall and looks like he's got a little bit of padding to him, but it might be the way he carries himself.  Most of the times in the comic, when I remember seeing him, he's got that forward lean to his neck and shoulders, not a full slouch but someone that's not comfortable with himself.  Then when it comes to "business mode" back get's straighter, shoulders wider and suddenly you feel much taller then before.  I might be projecting though.  There's far too many similarities that I see with Elliot the more he's in the comic.  :-\
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Re: WCDT strips 3706-3710 (26th to 30th March 2018)
« Reply #141 on: 29 Mar 2018, 05:18 »

Elliot has framed his problem as a lack of courage, which is to my mind the correct way of looking at it. The old division of labor is that men got physical and verbal courage, and women got emotional courage, leaving everyone crippled. Elliot lacks emotional courage.
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Re: WCDT strips 3706-3710 (26th to 30th March 2018)
« Reply #142 on: 29 Mar 2018, 05:33 »

Damn... now I'm torn between Clinton/Brun, Clinton/Roko, and Clinton/Elliot D:

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« Reply #143 on: 29 Mar 2018, 05:41 »

Damn... now I'm torn between Clinton/Brun, Clinton/Roko, and Clinton/Elliot D:

I just hope that this doesn't go the way of Naruto, with Elliott, Brun, Roko and Emily (and possibly even the tattooed waitress) fighting behind his back for 'Clinton-kun's' attention only to snap apart and try to appear happy and harmonious whenever he looks towards the noise.
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Re: WCDT strips 3706-3710 (26th to 30th March 2018)
« Reply #144 on: 29 Mar 2018, 06:35 »

I really like this strip. It is both funny and bitterly ironic, with Clinton giving Elliot just what he wants in a form in which it is of no use to him.

The chance of a polyamorous relationship has dropped sharply, since both Clinton and Elliot are treating Elliot's crushing on both Brun and the unnamed cute guy as a dilemma, a choice between incompatible alternatives. If that's the way they think of it, they think of it that way.

There hasn't been a sexual or romantic relationship between men in this strip yet, though we have a relationship between women and one between a cis guy and a trans woman. This is the usual order of events. Many people are far less comfortable at seeing physical affection between two men than between almost any other possible two people.

I have no idea whether Clinton can or will return Elliot's affections, but I don't think he would be shocked by them. Because Clinton is a dweebish, repressed, middle-class white guy, we tend to forget that he is also the fiercely protective younger brother of a trans woman. He is situated so as to be disposed to think well of sexual minorities.

Elliot's expressions and gestures are very fetching. His nose has been broken at some point. You almost never see a guy whose nose has been broken pressing both hands to his heart.
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Re: WCDT strips 3706-3710 (26th to 30th March 2018)
« Reply #145 on: 29 Mar 2018, 07:01 »

Whether it was "in" the comic is debatable but we were around when his father married a guy.
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« Reply #146 on: 29 Mar 2018, 07:03 »

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« Reply #147 on: 29 Mar 2018, 08:03 »

Elliot, you're like 6 foot 6, 300 lbs, with less than 10% body fat.

...what?  He looks kinda chunky to me.  I mean, I'm sure he's got plenty of muscle underneath, but it seems pretty clear it's not all muscle.

I'm a stocky 5'5" (65cm) and 226 lbs (~102.5 kg), so the estimate feels like it lines up to me.

Any tall guys with broad shoulders want to weigh in this?
I actually am 6'2 with broad shoulders. My nieces have used me as a jungle gym kinda like Claire and Brun did with Elliot, though I'm not nearly as muscular as he is. I figure I'm about 20% body fat. That's why I figured my estimate for him was pretty close.
Fair enough.
I know I'm uncommonly proportioned, so gauging somethings based on my own dimensions is just going to be wonky.

Hell, thanks to the Human Anatomy and Physiology lab I took back in college, I know I have the same total lung capacity as one of the linebackers who happened to be in the same class as me. And he was a full foot taller than I am.
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Re: WCDT strips 3706-3710 (26th to 30th March 2018)
« Reply #148 on: 29 Mar 2018, 08:28 »

Whether it was "in" the comic is debatable but we were around when his father married a guy.

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« Reply #149 on: 29 Mar 2018, 09:27 »

On the subject of cute people, the male background character in the last panel is very attractive ^_^


Elliot's expressions and gestures are very fetching. His nose has been broken at some point. You almost never see a guy whose nose has been broken pressing both hands to his heart.

I assumed that was just the shape of his nose (my nose is the exact same shape and it's never been broken before).
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