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If QC were adapted into a "kid friendly" animated series, how would you like to see the cast portrayed?

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Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
« Reply #100 on: 15 May 2018, 09:41 »

It's super nice that the Coffee of Doom staff set up a "Bubbles' Hair" sign for us to really draw attention to the significance of her letting it down.
Take a closer look, it says "Bubbles' Chair." The partial obstruction of the C could be Jeph drawing attention to it, but even if that isn't the case, the sign does still show how CoD sees Bubbles not just as a regular, but an important part of the community.

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Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
« Reply #101 on: 15 May 2018, 09:55 »

Why are there so many doubts regarding the voice coming from Faye or not? Bubbles should be able to recognize a voice easily and she wouldn't react that way if it wasn't Faye.
And no, a "I wasn't dead" companion from her unit does not compute at all. Sounds like awful soap opera. In that case it might as well be a soldier from her dead unit saying "And I have your son right here as well!".  :roll:
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Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
« Reply #102 on: 15 May 2018, 10:31 »

It's super nice that the Coffee of Doom staff set up a "Bubbles' Hair" sign for us to really draw attention to the significance of her letting it down.
Take a closer look, it says "Bubbles' Chair." The partial obstruction of the C could be Jeph drawing attention to it, but even if that isn't the case, the sign does still show how CoD sees Bubbles not just as a regular, but an important part of the community.

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Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
« Reply #103 on: 15 May 2018, 10:40 »

What if sexual orientation turns out to be a software setting even if gender identity is not?

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Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
« Reply #104 on: 15 May 2018, 10:51 »

New comic is uuuupppp!

And… huh. Dora gives good advice, Tai.

Also, Bubbles is looking utterly amazing today.
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Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
« Reply #105 on: 15 May 2018, 10:51 »

A doubleheader today! Thanks, Jeph!

Carefully avoiding eye contact in panels two and four :-)
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Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
« Reply #106 on: 15 May 2018, 11:02 »

Why are there so many doubts regarding the voice coming from Faye or not? Bubbles should be able to recognize a voice easily and she wouldn't react that way if it wasn't Faye.
And no, a "I wasn't dead" companion from her unit does not compute at all. Sounds like awful soap opera. In that case it might as well be a soldier from her dead unit saying "And I have your son right here as well!".  :roll:

Well...

I mean...

It *could* still be an ex soldier. Who has disguised themselves as Faye to get close to Bubbles...

And reveal her secret child...

And then the real Faye walks in and it's all "OMG" and "Which one is real??"...

... right?

(I'm with Tai. I'm not just counting sailors, I'm giving them all names and a backstory.)
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Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
« Reply #107 on: 15 May 2018, 11:18 »

Excellent use of background color, or the lack of it, to indicate how everything else in the world receded for a minute when Bubbles and Faye reunited. I'm glad it returned because I was starting to wonder if they were in the afterlife. :-)
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Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
« Reply #108 on: 15 May 2018, 11:54 »

There she is!! https://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/161181 also, step 2, 3, 4, and final: https://sambakza.newgrounds.com/movies/

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Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
« Reply #109 on: 15 May 2018, 12:21 »

This is the most realistic outcome.  They’re both insecure and don’t want to make a scene so playing it cool even though they know their feelings for each other isn’t a secret anymore is the most we can expect for now.
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Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
« Reply #110 on: 15 May 2018, 13:11 »

Long-time lurker here and I had to register today! What a development! I thought the unresolved Bubs-Faye thing was going to drag on for years to come! I guess it still can...
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Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
« Reply #111 on: 15 May 2018, 14:12 »

Poor Faye! She must have literally run all the way from Union Robotics to the apartment and then run all the way to Coffee of Doom (possibly with other stops in the middle including the Skate Park). If there is any proof needed that she wants and needs Bubbles in her life, it is that she was driven frantic by the thought of her being gone!

I do love panel 4. Poor Faye and Bubbles are so desperately trying to play it cool and play it casual but instead come across as two people catapulted out of a self-imposed closet by their own misjudgements (note the panic-stricken stares). Even then, they can't stop sending out 'we are a couple' vibes! No wonder Tai is coming over all nostalgic!
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Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
« Reply #112 on: 15 May 2018, 14:23 »

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Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
« Reply #113 on: 15 May 2018, 14:40 »

(I'm with Tai. I'm not just counting sailors, I'm giving them all names and a backstory.)
Meanwhile, I've been saying all along what Dora is saying now. The ship may be stocked with fuel and provisions, manned and ready, but it still hasn't sailed. At any point along the way, any number of things could have happened, and still can even now.

They both realize there's something there, but then when they're together, they avoid talking about it. And as long as they continue to avoid it, that ship is going to remain moored to the docks.

They may think it's safer to avoid it, rather than risk sinking the ship, but sooner or later, they're going to have to have that talk, or the ship will simply fall apart where it sits.
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Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
« Reply #114 on: 15 May 2018, 14:50 »

(I'm with Tai. I'm not just counting sailors, I'm giving them all names and a backstory.)
Meanwhile, I've been saying all along what Dora is saying now. The ship may be stocked with fuel and provisions, manned and ready, but it still hasn't sailed. At any point along the way, any number of things could have happened, and still can even now.

They both realize there's something there, but then when they're together, they avoid talking about it. And as long as they continue to avoid it, that ship is going to remain moored to the docks.

They may think it's safer to avoid it, rather than risk sinking the ship, but sooner or later, they're going to have to have that talk, or the ship will simply fall apart where it sits.

To be fair, one of them as only *just* realized it. But I agree a talk has to happen for anything nautical to occur.

Doesn't mean I can't sit on the dock wearing a little sailor hat and waving a flag.   :-D
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Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
« Reply #115 on: 15 May 2018, 16:01 »

"I saw your armor and it was still in the closet" ...
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Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
« Reply #116 on: 15 May 2018, 16:05 »

All the nautical metaphors are making me feel queasy.

(I stole this line from somewhere and now I can't remember where)
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« Reply #117 on: 15 May 2018, 16:12 »

All the nautical metaphors are making me feel queasy.

(I stole this line from somewhere and now I can't remember where)

If you like I can change tack, reef my sails and steer clear. I can see you racing off at a rate of knots. Perhaps it'd be better if you were three sheets to the wind?
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Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
« Reply #118 on: 15 May 2018, 16:37 »

 :-D

Awwww

I'm not assuming this ship is setting sail until they talk. ;)

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Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
« Reply #119 on: 15 May 2018, 16:40 »

All the nautical metaphors are making me feel queasy.

(I stole this line from somewhere and now I can't remember where)
That'd be Jimbo.
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« Reply #120 on: 15 May 2018, 16:49 »

I knew it wouldn't be long before someone came through with the answer. :)
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Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
« Reply #121 on: 15 May 2018, 17:19 »

There she is!! https://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/161181 also, step 2, 3, 4, and final: https://sambakza.newgrounds.com/movies/

=)

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Thanks for this. I had somehow never been exposed that charming series. I watched all five.
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Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
« Reply #122 on: 15 May 2018, 17:26 »

I knew it wouldn't be long before someone came through with the answer. :)
I sensed that someone needed help and swooped to the rescue!

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Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
« Reply #123 on: 15 May 2018, 17:32 »

I'm loving Bubbles' hair in this strip. Great interaction too, I'm really excited to see more in this arc.

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Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
« Reply #124 on: 15 May 2018, 18:28 »

I'm thinking talking is in the near future, but I'm glad it didn't happen in CoD. That's a very private and vulnerable talk to have.
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Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
« Reply #125 on: 15 May 2018, 18:37 »

All the nautical metaphors are making me feel queasy.

There ya go



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Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
« Reply #126 on: 15 May 2018, 19:00 »

One wrinkle is that 347 came from a time when Jeph was handling AnthroPCs completely differently from today and it may no longer be canon.

That's very true, and I did admit that other events suggest that Jeph was moving away from his initial stance on AI gender. But I think that the way he is developing AI characters and his approach to gender in general suggests to me that he would be moving towards a position more closely resembling gender essentialism rather than further from it. If Jeph treated gender as being something independent of the chassis even then, I cannot imagine he would do otherwise now, especially considering his marvelous handling of Claire and her relationship with her body.*

*I am thinking specifically of Claire and Marten's first night of sexual intimacy and Claire disrobing and saying "this is me". Jeph's decision to not reveal the status of her transition and subsequent refusal to do so is really powerful for me. It is a meaningful declaration that the particular shape of her body has nothing to do with her being a woman. I simply cannot believe he would do any different for Bubbles.

I think the real mark of change I think was when 'the singularity happened' in strip 1777. It seems to be after this there is a significant change in all AI's as a whole in the comic. Granted this is right before the Martin/Dora break-up so it's not till over a hundred strips later when we touch on it again, meet Clinton and AI civil rights is mentioned. In strip 1921 we do still have mention of PT410X and his obviously HORRIBLE 'owner' but by strip 1997 we have Momo getting her new chassis and BAM! the first humanoid AI's we've seen since Hanners's dad sent her the 'boyfriend.' After that it snowballs, strips 2068-2072 we see Clinton again and further the AI's story-line along further, strip 2085 brings Momo's reading the book 'AI Civil Rights: An Organic (can't make it out)', 2283-2285 Momo and Emily talk about companion AI relationship contracts, 2332 Momo and Pintsize talk compainionship.. Then the next strip Jeph gets revisionist and the AI workng the  'AnthroPC Companion Connections' place is a humanoid AI much like all the ones we see now..

I guess what I'm saying is, there was a point where things changed for AI's and they rapidly advanced in the QC verse and their sexuality is no different.
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Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
« Reply #127 on: 15 May 2018, 19:49 »

...strip 2085 brings Momo's reading the book 'AI Civil Rights: An Organic (can't make it out)'...
FWIW, I read that title as AI Civil Rights: An Ongoing Debate. I could be wrong, of course, since it is rather impossible to actually make out most of the letters, but it does make sense when you consider the opening paragraph of the full text on Jeph's tumblr post is
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« Reply #128 on: 15 May 2018, 21:09 »

On the subject of the poll, there's a small(ish) species of bear in South America called the spectacled bear.

Perhaps Marbear could be one of those.
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Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
« Reply #129 on: 15 May 2018, 21:11 »

Yeah, I think they want to talk in private, not in front of Dora and Tai and whoever else walks into CoD.

Notice how Fay has her hand on Bubbles's arm as they leave? They know something's changed. But I bet they get the rest of their work done for the day before they start talking about it.

Either that, or they start trying to talk about it as soon as they get back to the shop, only to keep getting interrupted by more customers than they've had all month. Jeph does enjoy torturing his characters so...  :evil:
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Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
« Reply #130 on: 15 May 2018, 21:19 »

Hello everyone! I'm Jordan. Sorry to rush past introductions but I've been waiting around for the last two weeks for the right moment to hop in here and gush about my feelings to all of you strangers.

When I started reading QC I was 12 years old and thought I was straight. I am now 20 years old and a lesbian. In a way it feels like the comic has grown up with me. As I became aware of more social issues, it seems that QC did as well.

Now there's a chance that Faye, the girl I grew up with, might also be realizing she's not straight. I couldn't be happier. I love Faye and Bubbles so much and the dynamic they share. I have felt what they are feeling- the dawning realization that the way you're acting around your friend isn't exactly platonic and what that might mean about you, and realizing you have feelings for your best friend but deciding you can never act on them for fear of ruining things. I know it very well.

So get me a captain's hat and call me a shipper, but I hope with all my heart that these two end up in a loving stable relationship together. I know that nothing is guaranteed at the moment but I'm staying optimistic here. So many femslash relationships have been teased and hinted at and have gotten my hopes up that eventually let me down, that at this point I'm numb to that sort of disappointment.
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Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
« Reply #131 on: 15 May 2018, 21:47 »

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« Reply #132 on: 15 May 2018, 22:08 »

I knew it wouldn't be long before someone came through with the answer. :)
I sensed that someone needed help and swooped to the rescue!

How fitting for a physicist to cite that strip. Just don't expect anyone to start calling you "Science Fairy"  ;D
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« Reply #133 on: 15 May 2018, 23:01 »

I knew it wouldn't be long before someone came through with the answer. :)
I sensed that someone needed help and swooped to the rescue!

How fitting for a physicist to cite that strip. Just don't expect anyone to start calling you "Science Fairy"  ;D

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Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
« Reply #134 on: 15 May 2018, 23:16 »

These last several days have been a difficult time to see the strip a day ahead and not talk about it.

Which is a lousy kvetch because it just means the strip has been suspenseful.
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Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
« Reply #135 on: 16 May 2018, 01:14 »

If Bubbles uploads into a hunky male firefighter-bot, would things go more smoothly?
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Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
« Reply #136 on: 16 May 2018, 01:21 »

These last several days have been a difficult time to see the strip a day ahead and not talk about it.

TBH, I use the WCDTs a lot less since I started contributing to Jeph's Patreon, because the threads are always talking about a strip that's now old news, until Friday.
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« Reply #137 on: 16 May 2018, 01:34 »

Can't wait for tomorrow.

I'm a bit hungry. Think I'll snack on some cereal.
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Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
« Reply #138 on: 16 May 2018, 01:38 »

These last several days have been a difficult time to see the strip a day ahead and not talk about it.

Which is a lousy kvetch because it just means the strip has been suspenseful.

It explains the snippy attitudes about people speculating for fun and trying to consider the possibles instead of instantly agreeing with what others knew was coming...It also takes the fun out of discussing the strip especially for those of us who refuse to give Jeph money.
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Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
« Reply #139 on: 16 May 2018, 04:34 »

As IICIH explained, people who know what's coming don't talk about it. The snippy attitudes are for different reasons entirely.  :wink:
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Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
« Reply #140 on: 16 May 2018, 05:08 »

Excellent use of background color, or the lack of it, to indicate how everything else in the world receded for a minute when Bubbles and Faye reunited. I'm glad it returned because I was starting to wonder if they were in the afterlife. :-)

And the subtle pink color/fuzziness that looks like we are literately looking through pink colored classes at this scene.
Would that hint to the way Bubbles and Faye are regarding each other, or the way Tai is looking at them as a ship..
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Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
« Reply #141 on: 16 May 2018, 07:08 »

Welcome, sort of new person!

Thanks! It's great to be here INTERACTING with you beautiful people!

Hello everyone! I'm Jordan. Sorry to rush past introductions but I've been waiting around for the last two weeks for the right moment to hop in here and gush about my feelings to all of you strangers.

Welcome! I guess this has been an eventful enough week to stir up new activity and memberships on this forum! Thanks for sharing your story :)
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Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
« Reply #142 on: 16 May 2018, 07:18 »

Welcome, AlliedToasters!
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Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
« Reply #143 on: 16 May 2018, 07:24 »

As much as I like seeing the two of them together, long term it's going to suck for Bubs.  Much like the lore about vampires the relationships between AI's and humans will have sad endings.  While the AIs are basically immortal just having to change hardware when it wears out they will have to watch all the humans they care about die of old age.
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Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
« Reply #144 on: 16 May 2018, 07:36 »

Welcome, new person!

You're insightful.

There's a Greek myth where a couple was hospitable to some travelers, so much so that the travelers revealed that they were gods, and thankful to the couple, and would grant them a couple of wishes of the it-will-turn-out-well type. They asked to build a temple to those gods, and for neither to outlive the other. They led a long and loving life, and at the end of it two trees emerged from their graves and intertwined their branches over the temple.
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Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
« Reply #145 on: 16 May 2018, 08:13 »

As much as I like seeing the two of them together, long term it's going to suck for Bubs.  Much like the lore about vampires the relationships between AI's and humans will have sad endings.  While the AIs are basically immortal just having to change hardware when it wears out they will have to watch all the humans they care about die of old age.

Welcome, new person!

You're insightful.

There's a Greek myth where a couple was hospitable to some travelers, so much so that the travelers revealed that they were gods, and thankful to the couple, and would grant them a couple of wishes of the it-will-turn-out-well type. They asked to build a temple to those gods, and for neither to outlive the other. They led a long and loving life, and at the end of it two trees emerged from their graves and intertwined their branches over the temple.

This just got super existential. I would just point out that, mortal or immortal, we don't generally let the possible endings for a relationship influence its beginnings. We mortals go into relationships knowing full well that they will end, and somebody almost always outlives another in the optimistic case that the relationship lasts that long. So, it's really not important. Carpe diem. If they can be happy today, let no unrealized possibilities stop them.

With that I would like to share this charming Faye/Bubbles moment from their early relationship:

http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=3119

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Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
« Reply #146 on: 16 May 2018, 09:08 »


This just got super existential. I would just point out that, mortal or immortal, we don't generally let the possible endings for a relationship influence its beginnings. We mortals go into relationships knowing full well that they will end, and somebody almost always outlives another in the optimistic case that the relationship lasts that long. So, it's really not important. Carpe diem. If they can be happy today, let no unrealized possibilities stop them.

With that I would like to share this charming Faye/Bubbles moment from their early relationship:

http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=3119

Pretty much my thoughts on the subject. There are many reasons why a relationship may not be eternal, and comfort is hard to come by. Stupid to reject it while it's on offer.
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Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
« Reply #147 on: 16 May 2018, 10:06 »

These last several days have been a difficult time to see the strip a day ahead and not talk about it.

Which is a lousy kvetch because it just means the strip has been suspenseful.

It explains the snippy attitudes about people speculating for fun and trying to consider the possibles instead of instantly agreeing with what others knew was coming...It also takes the fun out of discussing the strip especially for those of us who refuse to give Jeph money.
Discussing the strip is still fun, because we don't talk about Patreon strips ahead of time. I know - I got rightfully berated for doing it once, and it wasn't even a high-suspense story like this one. But I went and looked at lots of cat gifs, and I felt better. If I had talked about this story a day ahead, I'd probably be hunted down and lynched. So I just discuss it as if I had not seen the next day's strip yet (and in many cases, I haven't).


TBH, I use the WCDTs a lot less since I started contributing to Jeph's Patreon, because the threads are always talking about a strip that's now old news, until Friday.
I still use the WCDTs more, because here it's more of an ongoing discussion (yeah, I know that's redundant, since that's what the 'D' is for), whereas the Patreon comments are more just reactions to that single strip. Here, there are a lot of people who don't see the Patreon strips, so for them, it's not old news.
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Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
« Reply #148 on: 16 May 2018, 10:19 »

We've been trolled off and on this whole week in the strips .....I mean on Monday or Tuesday he made it look like bubbles had no clue othan she thought she hurt Faye how with the last strip meant for us letting us know it still may or may not happen........and since jephs on vacation we'll get yelling bird for a while......
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