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Re: WCDT Strips 3846-3850 (8-12 October, 2018)
« Reply #50 on: 09 Oct 2018, 05:35 »

Also consider that Momo and Bubbles are both of a personality to accede if you asked them to NOT watch you while you sleep. Therefore, Faye must be fine with Bubbles doing so. Faye isn't exactly shy.

From the other end... there is something comforting in waking up, and taking a quick peek at your loved ones, making sure they're still breathing.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3846-3850 (8-12 October, 2018)
« Reply #51 on: 09 Oct 2018, 07:34 »

A poem by Faye Whitaker:
"As I wake, my thoughts turn to you(r tits)."
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Re: WCDT Strips 3846-3850 (8-12 October, 2018)
« Reply #52 on: 09 Oct 2018, 07:39 »

Cuteness overload, I agree.

I don't think Bubbles was watching Faye sleep or anything -- in the first panel it looks like she was on her back when Faye started talking in her sleep (couldn't have been on her left side because of the charging cable). She then pulls her charging cable out to face Faye and starts cuddling her while responding to the "bear king" dream...

Dreaming and sleep talk is just one of the many bio-brain quirks that AIs (and humans, for that matter) find charming, fascinating, and inexplicable.



I love the flexibility AIs have regarding rest and sleep (and charging). Back when Momo got her new chassis, she told Marigold that she didn't need to sleep, so she could work at night and pay Marigold back for her chassis (and Marigold told her it was a gift, not a loan). And May seems to be quite flexible about the shifts she works.

So AIs may not need sleep, or at least they have the conscious choice to move, compress, or defer their periods of rest without the resulting confusion and grogginess that afflicts us meatsacks.

Bubbles has been woken up a few times and seems to instantly come to full awareness, which makes sense. If I were to redesign human brains, I'd certainly install the ability to consciously control rest and awareness.

But sleeping and resting are essential parts of the human or sentient experience (not to mention staying in one place for a while is necessary to recharge). Maybe they defrag or run repair routines while in sleep mode.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3846-3850 (8-12 October, 2018)
« Reply #53 on: 09 Oct 2018, 08:16 »

My wife has had some very amusing sleep-talking episodes, including running meetings and giving presentations while asleep.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3846-3850 (8-12 October, 2018)
« Reply #54 on: 09 Oct 2018, 10:12 »

Also I completely fail to see how using someone else's computer establishes deniability. In fact the opposite, it makes the likelihood you will be discovered VASTLY more probable than if you do it in your own private space.
There is a very strong presumption that the owner (or customary principle user) of a computer was at the keyboard such that, unless Rules of Evidence are seriously enforced (like in a courtroom), the burden of proof shifts to the owner.  "Prove that you weren't the one poop-surfing."  The most important element of any computer crime case is placing the suspect at the keyboard.  It's not unlike a Hit-&-Run traffic collision - the prosecution has to prove the suspect was behind the wheel.

As for being discovered, the only party apt to find it is the owner.  That could result in anything from, "What are those URLs?" through "DON'T YOU EVER TOUCH MY COMPUTER AGAIN!" to bringing it to the attention of the authorities.

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Re: WCDT Strips 3846-3850 (8-12 October, 2018)
« Reply #55 on: 09 Oct 2018, 11:56 »

Having someone watch you sleep - even a loved one - has always felt a bit creepy to me. 
Obviously you are not a Minbari.

Damn. Now I need to try and grab a copy.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3846-3850 (8-12 October, 2018)
« Reply #56 on: 09 Oct 2018, 19:54 »

Comics up --- and no mention of the right to bear arms.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3846-3850 (8-12 October, 2018)
« Reply #57 on: 09 Oct 2018, 20:21 »

I'm a couple weeks late saying it, and I don't remember her name, but Agentbot needs to show up more often.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3846-3850 (8-12 October, 2018)
« Reply #58 on: 09 Oct 2018, 21:36 »

I am amused that my "alternative dialogue" version of the previous comic wasn't so far off in terms of where this conversation eventually went. xD
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Re: WCDT Strips 3846-3850 (8-12 October, 2018)
« Reply #59 on: 09 Oct 2018, 22:25 »

I'm with Faye.  Three months off every winter for hibearnation sounds GREAT.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3846-3850 (8-12 October, 2018)
« Reply #60 on: 09 Oct 2018, 23:18 »

Ah, so a brief discussion on the subject of dreams vs. recreational hallucinations followed by an entirely surreal exposition on the themes of Faye's dream. As always, I find it difficult to tell when Jeph's characters are being serious and when they're amusing each other by pretending to be serious. Because of this, this strip is pretty much quintessential Questionable Content.

Meanwhile, I suspect that Jeph is very proud of Bubbles' disappointed pout in panel 2!
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Re: WCDT Strips 3846-3850 (8-12 October, 2018)
« Reply #61 on: 10 Oct 2018, 00:11 »

Comics up --- and no mention of the right to bear arms arm bears.

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Re: WCDT Strips 3846-3850 (8-12 October, 2018)
« Reply #62 on: 10 Oct 2018, 01:35 »

Comics up --- and no mention of the right to bear arms.

That would only lead to an arms race. But that's Emily's responsibility, as is the Bear King niw that Hanners isn't at the shop.


On a different note - I wonder whether Bubbles can change her eye color? Two reasons - filter mechanisms to improve visibility, and psychological warfare.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3846-3850 (8-12 October, 2018)
« Reply #63 on: 10 Oct 2018, 02:18 »

Meanwhile, I suspect that Jeph is very proud of Bubbles' disappointed pout in panel 2!

Very Brun-esque pout, indeed...
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Re: WCDT Strips 3846-3850 (8-12 October, 2018)
« Reply #64 on: 10 Oct 2018, 02:47 »

I just remembered Faye has a past with bears
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Re: WCDT Strips 3846-3850 (8-12 October, 2018)
« Reply #65 on: 10 Oct 2018, 05:07 »


She: (Indistinct mumbling)... (covers suddenly pulled over head.)
Me: What's the matter"
She: (asleep) "The vampires are back... again..."
Me: What?
She: (asleep) "probably water."
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Re: WCDT Strips 3846-3850 (8-12 October, 2018)
« Reply #66 on: 10 Oct 2018, 05:10 »

So, basically, Mrs Covenant plays Ravenloft in her head whilst asleep?
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Re: WCDT Strips 3846-3850 (8-12 October, 2018)
« Reply #67 on: 10 Oct 2018, 07:35 »

So, basically, Mrs Covenant plays Ravenloft in her head whilst asleep?

(Sssssssssshhhh!!!! This was PRE- Mrs Covenant!)  :psyduck:
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Re: WCDT Strips 3846-3850 (8-12 October, 2018)
« Reply #68 on: 10 Oct 2018, 07:54 »

Comics up --- and no mention of the right to bear arms.

You mean the right for bears to bear arms in their bear arms?

I'll show myself out....
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Re: WCDT Strips 3846-3850 (8-12 October, 2018)
« Reply #69 on: 10 Oct 2018, 07:57 »

SUrprised nobody has mentioned the bear monster shirt Faye used to wear.

I guess Jeph somehow automatically links Faye with bears in his head?
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Re: WCDT Strips 3846-3850 (8-12 October, 2018)
« Reply #70 on: 10 Oct 2018, 18:32 »

Sorry for the diversion, but should the current WCDT thread be pinned?

It might save the occasional thread confusion.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3846-3850 (8-12 October, 2018)
« Reply #71 on: 10 Oct 2018, 18:52 »

Faye: Hey Bubbles, need a hand.  :clairedoge: :clairedoge: :clairedoge:
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Re: WCDT Strips 3846-3850 (8-12 October, 2018)
« Reply #72 on: 10 Oct 2018, 18:57 »

In before the relationship trouble speculation.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3846-3850 (8-12 October, 2018)
« Reply #73 on: 10 Oct 2018, 19:36 »

Just got to know your audience. Same deadpan snark would have gone a lot better with, say, May or Dora.

The problem is that Momo is too sweet and pure for this world.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3846-3850 (8-12 October, 2018)
« Reply #74 on: 10 Oct 2018, 19:40 »

Comics up --- and no mention of the right to bear arms arm bears.

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How do you know I was not talking about the right of everyone to possess the arm of a bear? Maybe more than one arm?
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Re: WCDT Strips 3846-3850 (8-12 October, 2018)
« Reply #75 on: 10 Oct 2018, 19:54 »

Don't forget about the advice Marten gave Angus about getting involved with Faye: "When a park ranger warns you about the bears, it's not because he wants to keep the bear hugs for himself!"
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Re: WCDT Strips 3846-3850 (8-12 October, 2018)
« Reply #76 on: 10 Oct 2018, 19:56 »

Comics up --- and no mention of the right to bear arms arm bears.

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How do you know I was not talking about the right of everyone to possess the arm of a bear? Maybe more than one arm?

Hmmmmh... You're right, I don't. Just watch out with Pandas - you don't want to be caught with black arms ...  :clairedoge:
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Re: WCDT Strips 3846-3850 (8-12 October, 2018)
« Reply #77 on: 10 Oct 2018, 20:29 »

SUrprised nobody has mentioned the bear monster shirt Faye used to wear.

I guess Jeph somehow automatically links Faye with bears in his head?

ownership of that shirt is
a little bit fuzzy now. Or it may be a case of "His hoodie? no, that's her's now."
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Re: WCDT Strips 3846-3850 (8-12 October, 2018)
« Reply #78 on: 10 Oct 2018, 20:37 »

I'm with Faye.  Three months off every winter for hibearnation sounds GREAT.

The best part would be that everyone is at home, thus the spread of cold, flu, bronchitis, etc would be drastically cut down.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3846-3850 (8-12 October, 2018)
« Reply #79 on: 10 Oct 2018, 22:11 »

To be fair to Faye and Momo, deadpan humor is sometimes a bit tricky for humans too.

Also, I'm becoming more and more convinced that as time goes by Jeph is using this comic to explore how AI would work in society.  Which is awesome.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3846-3850 (8-12 October, 2018)
« Reply #80 on: 10 Oct 2018, 23:32 »

The first thing that jumped into my head when I read panel 1 was that Momo is pretty tired of people saying that her hairstyle is 'pretty punk'. In her mind, that's not a positive and she really wishes that people would stop saying it to her!

Now, onto the point of this comic: I think that Faye needs to sit down and have some serious self-reflection. When one gets so good at burns and making sarcastic comments sound serious that people out of your immediate circle can't automatically tell when you're kidding, maybe one has to wonder if you've got a bit too good or have developed a bit too much of a nasty reputation!

That aside, someone give Faye a hand with that box before she drops it!
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Re: WCDT Strips 3846-3850 (8-12 October, 2018)
« Reply #81 on: 11 Oct 2018, 00:09 »

Omg Momo's lil' face!! *cuddles Momo* It's okay, don't cry, don't cry...
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Re: WCDT Strips 3846-3850 (8-12 October, 2018)
« Reply #82 on: 11 Oct 2018, 01:15 »

Now, onto the point of this comic: I think that Faye needs to sit down and have some serious self-reflection. When one gets so good at burns and making sarcastic comments sound serious that people out of your immediate circle can't automatically tell when you're kidding, maybe one has to wonder if you've got a bit too good or have developed a bit too much of a nasty reputation!

I may not have thought this idea through enough. I've suddenly had a horrible flash of Faye trying to imitate the Claireface every time she is kidding. That way madness lies! :claireface:
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Re: WCDT Strips 3846-3850 (8-12 October, 2018)
« Reply #83 on: 11 Oct 2018, 03:20 »

Momo is a bit too innocent for Faye. Sometimes borderline gullible. She may have caught Faye's joke, but she too upset to realise when she's joking, and she has no idea how much stuff costs. Material costs probably aren't that bad, it probably just takes a while for the polymers to form properly.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3846-3850 (8-12 October, 2018)
« Reply #84 on: 11 Oct 2018, 05:49 »

Momo is a bit too innocent for Faye. Sometimes borderline gullible. She may have caught Faye's joke, but she too upset to realise when she's joking, and she has no idea how much stuff costs. Material costs probably aren't that bad, it probably just takes a while for the polymers to form properly.

It can’t be that expensive if Bubbles does it.  She’s careful about spending money.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3846-3850 (8-12 October, 2018)
« Reply #85 on: 11 Oct 2018, 06:59 »

FAYE! Don't be mean.

That was cute tho.

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Re: WCDT Strips 3846-3850 (8-12 October, 2018)
« Reply #86 on: 11 Oct 2018, 08:09 »

What I'm afraid of here is that the Rule of Funny may require something to go wrong with the hair restoration.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3846-3850 (8-12 October, 2018)
« Reply #87 on: 11 Oct 2018, 08:12 »

Sécurité Sociale forever!

(only french people or at least people familiar with the french social system will understand)

Also: Momo is truly heartbreaking in the last panel...
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Re: WCDT Strips 3846-3850 (8-12 October, 2018)
« Reply #88 on: 11 Oct 2018, 08:16 »

On the subject itself: why not find a middle way? Pay the material plus some profit for Union Robotics(TM), but less than the usual rate? That way, Momo gets a friend rate, but still supports Faye and Bubbles' business. Everybody's happy!
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Re: WCDT Strips 3846-3850 (8-12 October, 2018)
« Reply #89 on: 11 Oct 2018, 08:41 »

What I'm afraid of here is that the Rule of Funny may require something to go wrong with the hair restoration.

My guess is Momo will end up with far, far too much hair and hijinks will ensue.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3846-3850 (8-12 October, 2018)
« Reply #90 on: 11 Oct 2018, 09:03 »

Or: Momo ends up with far too much hair, but when she looks in the mirror she squeals “I LOVE IT!”
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Re: WCDT Strips 3846-3850 (8-12 October, 2018)
« Reply #91 on: 11 Oct 2018, 10:20 »

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Re: WCDT Strips 3846-3850 (8-12 October, 2018)
« Reply #92 on: 11 Oct 2018, 15:22 »

In strip 3849, Bubbles' observation has given me a thought.
With respect to Momo's short hair, she said:
With the proper additives, we should be able to precipitate new strands out of solution.
The implication (to me) is that (some) robots do not self-contain a hair-growing facility, and that hair lengthening is performed externally.

So, my thought...
Do hairdressers/barbers have the appropriate equipment to "precipitate new strands" of robot hair? If not, then there may be another marketing opportunity for Union Robotics: lengthening hair on robot-folk. Followed, of course, by space rental to barbers/hairdressers to coiffe the resulting lengthened hair.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3846-3850 (8-12 October, 2018)
« Reply #93 on: 11 Oct 2018, 15:25 »

The box is marked "Hands", and Faye is holding it (with one hand, no less).
Who's "hands" is Faye holding?  :-D :-D :-D
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Re: WCDT Strips 3846-3850 (8-12 October, 2018)
« Reply #94 on: 11 Oct 2018, 17:59 »

What gets me more than anything in this comic is that Momo turned down a discount. Not because its paying less money for something, but for not realising that a discount would potentially lead to more business for Union Robotics. At least for her.

Hair job now. Okay, cheap discount, just pay for time and covering materials.
Maybe later Momo decides to go in and get her servos served.
Maybe later still, some optical optics need replacing.
Maybe she tells some other AI about UR and helps gather some business.

It's counterintuitive, but discounts from starter businesses pay off in the end.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3846-3850 (8-12 October, 2018)
« Reply #95 on: 11 Oct 2018, 18:26 »

Yes, but Union Robotics, a struggling business, doesn’t turn as much of a profit so getting a discount just because she’s a friend affects them financially. 
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Re: WCDT Strips 3846-3850 (8-12 October, 2018)
« Reply #96 on: 11 Oct 2018, 18:47 »

What I'm afraid of here is that the Rule of Funny may require something to go wrong with the hair restoration.

So far it looks like Rule of Funny is just about it going exactly right. Crisis averted. Bless that thumbs up.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3846-3850 (8-12 October, 2018)
« Reply #97 on: 11 Oct 2018, 19:03 »

And after all the doodah about Jeph and short hair...
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Re: WCDT Strips 3846-3850 (8-12 October, 2018)
« Reply #98 on: 11 Oct 2018, 19:57 »

What gets me more than anything in this comic is that Momo turned down a discount. Not because its paying less money for something, but for not realising that a discount would potentially lead to more business for Union Robotics. At least for her.

Hair job now. Okay, cheap discount, just pay for time and covering materials.
Maybe later Momo decides to go in and get her servos served.
Maybe later still, some optical optics need replacing.
Maybe she tells some other AI about UR and helps gather some business.

It's counterintuitive, but discounts from starter businesses pay off in the end.

Thing is, Momo's a friend, not some random person.  She's going to frequent their business when she needs repairs or wants upgrades, and she'll tell people about it regardless of whether they give her this discount.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3846-3850 (8-12 October, 2018)
« Reply #99 on: 11 Oct 2018, 20:27 »

 :lol:  :laugh:  :-D  :laugh:  :lol:

Oh lordy. And I LOVE Faye's expression in the last panel. And the thumbs up.
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