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Re: WCDT 12-16 November 2018 (3871-3875)
« Reply #101 on: 15 Nov 2018, 19:01 »

COMIC

and Jeph has decided to reference the current Wondermark series oh god

Anyway, there's step #8, ordeal. It's all up from here.

p.s. banana latte sounds awful
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Re: WCDT 12-16 November 2018 (3871-3875)
« Reply #102 on: 15 Nov 2018, 21:38 »

I've never been drug tested at work. Maybe they assumed that anyone with really interesting security clearances, and who were used to safety critical work where if you screw up, people may die, perhaps thousands of people, would be so risk averse as a matter of culture they'd be careful about any psychogenic materials, legal or not.

I have been breathalysed a dozen times or more, because we have RBT - random breath testing. Police set up a checkpoint, and pull over vehicles at random.

Personally, because I have an unusual metabolism, with non standard neurotransmitters, it's wise to play it safe. I have a strong allergy to the plant cannabis sativa, meaning dope smoke acts like tear gas on me, and I get sneezing fits if I enter a room where grass has been smoked in the last few days.

I have a high tolerance for Pethidine (Demorol), Fentanyl appears to have no effect, Morphine hyper effect, BP and heart rate crashed with a 'test to see if safe' dose, Codeine phosphate normal.

The things you learn when being taken to resusc in an intensive care ambulance. Apparently I have ridiculously large numbers of Kappa receptors, but little in the way of Mu or Delta ones.

I guess the point I'm trying to make is that one should be prudent about the use of psychoactive chemicals. Humans vary in their responses. A dose that is safe for 99% of the population might be very unsafe for some of the other 1%. Best is to try microdoses first under medical supervision, or, if known to have anomalous responses like me , steer clear unless necessary.
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Re: WCDT 12-16 November 2018 (3871-3875)
« Reply #103 on: 15 Nov 2018, 22:27 »

I'm just going to put it out there that I've never had a single encounter with Mary Jane.

Judge away.
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Re: WCDT 12-16 November 2018 (3871-3875)
« Reply #104 on: 15 Nov 2018, 23:22 »

The entire first chunk of this strip tells its own, fascinating micro-plot which is this: Marten and Dora are very much over their break-up. Not exactly startling news, I suspect that it was at least a year ago in-comic time. However, it's good to see them so relaxed and able to communicate with each other without awkwardness. Heck, in panel 2, Dora even felt able to use a pet-name!

I'm still trying to work out when the other shoe will drop with Claire, Tai and Claire's mother. I suspect that Marten and Dora will need to come and collect their respective girlfriends on the grounds that they are not fit to walk anywhere unaccompanied. They may also need Faye and Bubbles to help them push the wheelbarrows they'll need to carry the unwary stoners!

I've got a feeling that Dora and Marten may find it a bit hard to handle a pair of 'snuggly' girls who doubtless want to them them what wonderful SOs they are! Doing stuff is harder when you have someone who absolutely will not release their hug attached to you! :wink:
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Re: WCDT 12-16 November 2018 (3871-3875)
« Reply #105 on: 15 Nov 2018, 23:27 »

I'm just going to put it out there that I've never had a single encounter with Mary Jane.

Judge away.

I'm still not sure why you're convinced that others are judging people for not partaking on this forum. I've seen no evidence of any such judging.
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Re: WCDT 12-16 November 2018 (3871-3875)
« Reply #106 on: 15 Nov 2018, 23:36 »

Who said I was convinced? As you say, there's no evidence for it.

I was just being a bit over-defensive. I suspected there might be someone out there.
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Re: WCDT 12-16 November 2018 (3871-3875)
« Reply #107 on: 15 Nov 2018, 23:53 »

I'm just going to put it out there that I've never had a single encounter with Mary Jane.

Judge away.
Likewise, and given my hippie-like attitude and appearance, people always assume that I DO partake.  I've had it passed to me and immediately kept it  moving.

I feel no judgement here though... merely idle curiosity.
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Re: WCDT 12-16 November 2018 (3871-3875)
« Reply #108 on: 16 Nov 2018, 00:43 »

I'm just going to put it out there that I've never had a single encounter with Mary Jane.

Judge away.

Expecting to be judged for an insignificant fact is pretty judgemental.  :-P
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Re: WCDT 12-16 November 2018 (3871-3875)
« Reply #109 on: 16 Nov 2018, 00:47 »

Do you think so? What makes you say that?

If I told you that I was more worried it would appear insecure, would you think *that* was judgement?
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Re: WCDT 12-16 November 2018 (3871-3875)
« Reply #110 on: 16 Nov 2018, 00:47 »

That last hit was a...

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(wait for it...)

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HEADSHOT!!!
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Re: WCDT 12-16 November 2018 (3871-3875)
« Reply #111 on: 16 Nov 2018, 00:53 »

Do you think so? What makes you say that?

Mostly a sense of humorous symmetry. Though I would argue that expecting people to judge you for something insignificant is at least adjacent to assuming that they are the kind of people who would judge you for something insignificant. Can't expect someone to do something jerkish without assuming they're at least a little jerkish.

Honestly, I didn't mean anything too terribly deep by it. I'm probably just feeling introspective. Also, you did ask us to judge away.  :-D
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Re: WCDT 12-16 November 2018 (3871-3875)
« Reply #112 on: 16 Nov 2018, 00:56 »

LOL fair enough.  :mrgreen:

Anyway, let's get back to the comic. Random observation: that is rather long hair, and a quite dapper hat, in panel one.

I'm still kind of hoping she'll be fine for the exam.
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Re: WCDT 12-16 November 2018 (3871-3875)
« Reply #113 on: 16 Nov 2018, 01:15 »

Anyway, let's get back to the comic. Random observation: that is rather long hair, and a quite dapper hat, in panel one.

The style of those two background characters is subtly different; I'm hoping that Jeph is going to confirm that they are either a friend's OCs, based on friends or based on women he saw at a convention at some point.
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Re: WCDT 12-16 November 2018 (3871-3875)
« Reply #114 on: 16 Nov 2018, 01:35 »


Anyway, let's get back to the comic. Random observation: that is rather long hair, and a quite dapper hat, in panel one.


Yes, the one with the long hair might be an elf, imo...

(also: I just learned the word "dapper". At last, I know what George Clooney's hair grease brand "Dapper Dan" in "O Brother, Where Art Thou?" means)
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Re: WCDT 12-16 November 2018 (3871-3875)
« Reply #115 on: 16 Nov 2018, 01:41 »

Actually I can answer this one. The characters in the background are JJ and Emily from "The Missing: J.J. Macfield and the island of memories" a game by Swery. The guy behind Deadly Premonition and D4.

https://assets1.ignimgs.com/2018/10/18/themissing-thumb-1539835241345_1280w.jpg for a picture of JJ and Emily.
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Re: WCDT 12-16 November 2018 (3871-3875)
« Reply #116 on: 16 Nov 2018, 05:38 »

COMIC

and Jeph has decided to reference the current Wondermark series oh god


O God indeed! I can understand it, though. If you produce a comic strip and you've seen that sick elephant line as many times as Wondermark readers have, maybe the impulse to regurgitate it is irresistible.
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Re: WCDT 12-16 November 2018 (3871-3875)
« Reply #117 on: 16 Nov 2018, 06:18 »

I'm just going to put it out there that I've never had a single encounter with Mary Jane.

Judge away.

I'm still not sure why you're convinced that others are judging people for not partaking on this forum. I've seen no evidence of any such judging.

Me neither, no judging whatsoever. I do however, sometimes feel like MJ use here is somewhat....exalted? glorified? (not sure which word is better)
Probably not the case and just my own odd interpretation though  :-\
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Re: WCDT 12-16 November 2018 (3871-3875)
« Reply #118 on: 16 Nov 2018, 07:06 »

Here specifically as in this forum? Because that's surprising to me (and yes, me, from earlier in the thread) and possibly something the mods would need to chat about.
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Re: WCDT 12-16 November 2018 (3871-3875)
« Reply #119 on: 16 Nov 2018, 08:17 »

I wouldn't say it was exalted or glorified, but rather its more socially acceptable to talk about, even compared to a few years ago.
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Re: WCDT 12-16 November 2018 (3871-3875)
« Reply #120 on: 16 Nov 2018, 08:41 »

Bear in mind that the comic author lives in a place where cannabis use is legal, and it is legal in various states of the US, also in at least one European country represented here.  Any international forum is going to meet issues over which different members will have differing views and be subject to different laws.  This forum prefers to allow the union of the possibilities to be discussed, rather than restricting discussion to the intersection of the possibilities (or worse, tying it to one jurisdiction) which would amount to censorship.  Of course, this also requires the users of the forum to be aware of this, and to be prepared to learn about and tolerate local differences without inappropriate judgement.  The option to step away from a particular discussion is always there, and doing that is not a reason for anyone to be judged in turn.
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Re: WCDT 12-16 November 2018 (3871-3875)
« Reply #121 on: 16 Nov 2018, 08:58 »

I can't say much. I live across the street from a Dispensary. (Medical use only, of course.)
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Re: WCDT 12-16 November 2018 (3871-3875)
« Reply #122 on: 16 Nov 2018, 09:03 »

Thank you, PWHodges.  Ever the voice of reason. 

I'd also like to point out that everything I've mentioned in here is based on a combination of knowledge gained through curiosity over many years, and rather heavy use in my now-distant youth.  It's been about 30 years since I've had a toke, and for good reasons. 



(mostly having to do with the memory effects and the fact that I have a bad one to begin with.  Losing whole chunks of one's life was not an enjoyable side effect)
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Re: WCDT 12-16 November 2018 (3871-3875)
« Reply #123 on: 16 Nov 2018, 11:12 »

I guess the point I'm trying to make is that one should be prudent about the use of psychoactive chemicals. Humans vary in their responses. A dose that is safe for 99% of the population might be very unsafe for some of the other 1%. Best is to try microdoses first under medical supervision, or, if known to have anomalous responses like me , steer clear unless necessary.

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Re: WCDT 12-16 November 2018 (3871-3875)
« Reply #124 on: 16 Nov 2018, 14:34 »

"The number you have reached is an imaginary number. Please hang up, rotate your phone 90 degrees clockwise, and try again."

"Why clockwise?"
"If you go the other way you'll get negative results."
"And why exactly 90 degrees?"
"Well... otherwise things get complex."
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Re: WCDT 12-16 November 2018 (3871-3875)
« Reply #125 on: 16 Nov 2018, 16:43 »

"The number you have reached is an imaginary number. Please hang up, rotate your phone 90 degrees clockwise, and try again."

"Why clockwise?"
"If you go the other way you'll get negative results."
"And why exactly 90 degrees?"
"Well... otherwise things get complex."

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Re: WCDT 12-16 November 2018 (3871-3875)
« Reply #126 on: 16 Nov 2018, 17:49 »

I'm just going to put it out there that I've never had a single encounter with Mary Jane.

Judge away.

I spent much of my twenties in a sincere, committed relationship with Ms Jane.

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Re: WCDT 12-16 November 2018 (3871-3875)
« Reply #127 on: 16 Nov 2018, 22:54 »


ED IS THE TRUE PATH TO NIRVANA!  ED HAS BEEN THE CHOICE OF EDUCATED AND IGNORANT ALIKE FOR CENTURIES!  ED WILL NOT CORRUPT YOUR PRECIOUS BODILY FLUIDS!!  ED IS THE STANDARD TEXT EDITOR!  ED MAKES THE SUN SHINE AND THE BIRDS SING AND THE GRASS GREEN!!
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Re: WCDT 12-16 November 2018 (3871-3875)
« Reply #128 on: 17 Nov 2018, 07:18 »

One last comment on the drug testing debate: CDL drivers are actually mandated to have drug tests done annually.
I've had my CDL since July/August 2017 and only been tested twice: onc as part of the DoT physical exam preparatory to getting my license, and once within a couple of hours after I ran the bus off the road into a ditch (not why I don't drive the bus now BTW.) Drivers for the company I worked for are subject to random testing, but my number never came up.
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Re: WCDT 12-16 November 2018 (3871-3875)
« Reply #129 on: 17 Nov 2018, 08:04 »

Yeah, have an accident with a CDL and expect to pee in a cup very shortly thereafter.


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Re: WCDT 12-16 November 2018 (3871-3875)
« Reply #130 on: 17 Nov 2018, 09:46 »

COMIC

and Jeph has decided to reference the current Wondermark series oh god


O God indeed! I can understand it, though. If you produce a comic strip and you've seen that sick elephant line as many times as Wondermark readers have, maybe the impulse to regurgitate it is irresistible.
I'm certainly approaching the point where my impulse to regurgitate when I read that line is irresistible. I kept expecting that it would eventually circle around to being funny again after enough repetition, but (at least as far as I'm concerned) it still feels like it's been going approximately 14 billion years too long. I liked Wondermark, dammit!
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Re: WCDT 12-16 November 2018 (3871-3875)
« Reply #131 on: 17 Nov 2018, 12:35 »

Cannabis storylines in various media are always a mixed bag for me, as I was relatively close to one who was that 1%. Full-blown psychosis, in and out of institutions -- the whole nine yards. It isn't ever going away. What makes it insidious to me is that his brother was totally fine after spending a few years as a full-time stoner, part-time bowling alley receptionist until his band took off. It's so difficult to judge ahead of time -- your brother's been smoking for years, surely you won't react badly?

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Re: WCDT 12-16 November 2018 (3871-3875)
« Reply #132 on: 17 Nov 2018, 17:50 »

Welcome, new person!

The real question is whether he's a chocolate moose.
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Re: WCDT 12-16 November 2018 (3871-3875)
« Reply #133 on: 17 Nov 2018, 18:41 »


ED IS THE TRUE PATH TO NIRVANA!  ED HAS BEEN THE CHOICE OF EDUCATED AND IGNORANT ALIKE FOR CENTURIES!  ED WILL NOT CORRUPT YOUR PRECIOUS BODILY FLUIDS!!  ED IS THE STANDARD TEXT EDITOR!  ED MAKES THE SUN SHINE AND THE BIRDS SING AND THE GRASS GREEN!!
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Re: WCDT 12-16 November 2018 (3871-3875)
« Reply #134 on: 18 Nov 2018, 14:29 »

"The number you have reached is an imaginary number. Please hang up, rotate your phone 90 degrees clockwise, and try again."

"Why clockwise?"
"If you go the other way you'll get negative results."
"And why exactly 90 degrees?"
"Well... otherwise things get complex."

Let's keep it Real, OK?

Please be rational.
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Re: WCDT 12-16 November 2018 (3871-3875)
« Reply #135 on: 18 Nov 2018, 14:50 »

"The number you have reached is an imaginary number. Please hang up, rotate your phone 90 degrees clockwise, and try again."

"Why clockwise?"
"If you go the other way you'll get negative results."
"And why exactly 90 degrees?"
"Well... otherwise things get complex."

Let's keep it Real, OK?

Please be rational.

It's Thanksgiving.  Why don't we discuss all this over some nice pi?
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Re: WCDT 12-16 November 2018 (3871-3875)
« Reply #136 on: 18 Nov 2018, 15:21 »

I'll have the raspberry.
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Re: WCDT 12-16 November 2018 (3871-3875)
« Reply #137 on: 18 Nov 2018, 15:50 »

A la mod? 
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« Reply #138 on: 18 Nov 2018, 16:01 »

No, ala mode. You know, the highest frequency, Kenneth.
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Re: WCDT 12-16 November 2018 (3871-3875)
« Reply #139 on: 18 Nov 2018, 16:08 »


p.s. banana latte sounds awful

 :-P  True

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Re: WCDT 12-16 November 2018 (3871-3875)
« Reply #140 on: 19 Nov 2018, 01:11 »



Does the doodle of a cat with a halo mean anything?



I'm taking that as Jeph's little homage to our household's recent little tragedy.

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Re: WCDT 12-16 November 2018 (3871-3875)
« Reply #141 on: 19 Nov 2018, 02:30 »

Welcome, new person!

The real question is whether he's a chocolate moose.

Thank you!
I have been lurking around here for years, but realised that I had postponed making a user several times for fear of the "this guy made an account for this"-effect. I finally stopped caring.

He could be any flavour of moose, really. Especially given the situation. Perhaps his flavoral properties are more closely explored this week?
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« Reply #142 on: 19 Nov 2018, 09:00 »

Thank you!
I have been lurking around here for years, but realised that I had postponed making a user several times for fear of the "this guy made an account for this"-effect. I finally stopped caring.
Cookiemoose? You made an account to post about COOKIEMOOSE?


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Re: WCDT 12-16 November 2018 (3871-3875)
« Reply #143 on: 25 Nov 2018, 16:39 »

Hello everyone!

I am really enjoying this arc! From the beginning I knew that the mix of characters would make a fun story. Tai is a super experienced stoner and mostly functional recreational drug user. I like that she has consistently been the voice of reason and experience, and now is the one calling in "an adult" when the situation needs it.

Whatever your opinions on cannabis use, this comic has been a pretty good example of responsible drug use and safe trip practices. I appreciate that a lot!
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Re: WCDT 12-16 November 2018 (3871-3875)
« Reply #144 on: 26 Nov 2018, 04:26 »

Never mind drugs, what about that blonde in 3875? Will we see more of her in future? :D

Would have tweeted this but Twitter reckons Jeph's blocked me, which is strange as I'm fairly certain I've never had any interaction with him before and certainly can't imagine why I'd be blocked! Ah well. :(
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Re: WCDT 12-16 November 2018 (3871-3875)
« Reply #145 on: 26 Nov 2018, 04:29 »

Never mind drugs, what about that blonde in 3875? Will we see more of her in future? :D

I doubt it; she and her friend with the hat are another artist's OCs, so he'd need their permission to use them.
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Re: WCDT 12-16 November 2018 (3871-3875)
« Reply #146 on: 26 Nov 2018, 05:05 »

Never mind drugs, what about that blonde in 3875? Will we see more of her in future? :D

Would have tweeted this but Twitter reckons Jeph's blocked me, which is strange as I'm fairly certain I've never had any interaction with him before and certainly can't imagine why I'd be blocked! Ah well. :(

There's some Twitter blocklists going around, and some of them have inaccurate blocks. (I know of a popular anti-GamerGate list that a TERF got control of and started blocking lots of trans people, for instance.) Could be that Jeph is using such a list.
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Re: WCDT 12-16 November 2018 (3871-3875)
« Reply #147 on: 26 Nov 2018, 10:08 »

Never mind drugs, what about that blonde in 3875? Will we see more of her in future? :D

Would have tweeted this but Twitter reckons Jeph's blocked me, which is strange as I'm fairly certain I've never had any interaction with him before and certainly can't imagine why I'd be blocked! Ah well. :(

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