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Just what is May's manager's back-room activities?

poker for dogs
drugs
they make the bad porn back there
they publish the bad porn back there
counterfeit operation out of the "copy room"
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fake I.D.s
pet shop
poker or other gambling
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WCDT Strips 4026-4030 (17th to 21st June 2019)
« on: 15 Jun 2019, 09:17 »

I imagine there's just a drape being put up to disguise the room if they're making the bad porn back there.
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Re: WCDT Strips 4026-4030 (17th to 21st June 2019)
« Reply #1 on: 15 Jun 2019, 10:47 »

The manager is printing King James bibles in English to smuggle into North Korea.   He's got tons of 'em because the missionary organizations only want ones printed in Korean.  He doesn't pay any attention when someone tells him the copyright is in the public domain because he secretly likes feeling persecuted.
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Re: WCDT Strips 4026-4030 (17th to 21st June 2019)
« Reply #2 on: 15 Jun 2019, 11:20 »

Bootlegged Porn, in really low quality.
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Re: WCDT Strips 4026-4030 (17th to 21st June 2019)
« Reply #3 on: 15 Jun 2019, 12:18 »

I suspect his back room activity is that he naps in the back room while his minimum wage employees do all the work. :P
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Re: WCDT Strips 4026-4030 (17th to 21st June 2019)
« Reply #4 on: 15 Jun 2019, 12:30 »

This comic had to happen somewhere...
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Re: WCDT Strips 4026-4030 (17th to 21st June 2019)
« Reply #5 on: 15 Jun 2019, 15:11 »

What is the 'back-room activity'?

They think they know The Truth about what is happening and who is behind it. They spend every waking hour abusing the shop owner's broadband and equipment to publish long, ranty blogs about Gary and this unnamed multi-node AI who are allegedly manipulating world events for some malign reason; these super-powerful god-AIs may have even taken over the Illuminati!

The wonderful thing is that they aren't actually doing anything actionable. However, because they think that they are and that They are out to silence 'the voice of Truth', they'll do anything to keep Roko from publishing their location on a public forum.
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Re: WCDT Strips 4026-4030 (17th to 21st June 2019)
« Reply #6 on: 16 Jun 2019, 19:46 »

Comics up.

I've worked with a lot of people like Beepatrice and they are some of the nicest people on the planet.

And the very sad thing is that I have worked with so many people like Beepatrice.

And I have wanted to strangle each and every single one of them.
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Re: WCDT Strips 4026-4030 (17th to 21st June 2019)
« Reply #7 on: 16 Jun 2019, 20:08 »

I feel like this is just the sort of thing you have to deal with when you're breaking new ground in the cause for social justice. You get lots of people who really believe in the cause, but not enough people who actually know what to do to further the cause.
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Re: WCDT Strips 4026-4030 (17th to 21st June 2019)
« Reply #8 on: 16 Jun 2019, 20:13 »

I have a feeling that Roko's going to be running the place before too long. If nothing else, she knows paperwork, and the importance of record-keeping.
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Re: WCDT Strips 4026-4030 (17th to 21st June 2019)
« Reply #9 on: 16 Jun 2019, 20:21 »

Wouldn't surprise me a bit.
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Re: WCDT Strips 4026-4030 (17th to 21st June 2019)
« Reply #10 on: 16 Jun 2019, 20:25 »

One gets the sense they don't have actual problems very often.

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Re: WCDT Strips 4026-4030 (17th to 21st June 2019)
« Reply #11 on: 16 Jun 2019, 20:29 »

I don't blame the printer one damn bit.  Don't send him mixed signals, Beeps.
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Re: WCDT Strips 4026-4030 (17th to 21st June 2019)
« Reply #12 on: 16 Jun 2019, 21:00 »

....... (¨_¨)
And now I'm hearing  Mona Marshall's voice for Beepatrice.
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Re: WCDT Strips 4026-4030 (17th to 21st June 2019)
« Reply #13 on: 16 Jun 2019, 21:32 »

Ok, I get that the comic always does it's best to 'humanize' the ai's, but are you seriously trying to tell me that an AI can't access google (or whatever takes it's place in this universe) and find a video on how to install a cartridge?
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Re: WCDT Strips 4026-4030 (17th to 21st June 2019)
« Reply #14 on: 16 Jun 2019, 21:35 »

The ability to figure things out doesn't stop people from failing to figure things out.
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Re: WCDT Strips 4026-4030 (17th to 21st June 2019)
« Reply #15 on: 16 Jun 2019, 21:48 »

It's kind of hard for me to swallow a piece of living tech having such a lack of tech-savviness.
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Re: WCDT Strips 4026-4030 (17th to 21st June 2019)
« Reply #16 on: 16 Jun 2019, 22:06 »

The manager is printing King James bibles in English to smuggle into North Korea.   He's got tons of 'em because the missionary organizations only want ones printed in Korean.  He doesn't pay any attention when someone tells him the copyright is in the public domain because he secretly likes feeling persecuted.

Another interesting coffee-coloured spray-pattern on my flatscreen, thank you so much Oldgoat!
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« Reply #17 on: 16 Jun 2019, 22:12 »

I've worked with a lot of people like Beepatrice and they are some of the nicest people on the planet.

And the very sad thing is that I have worked with so many people like Beepatrice.

And I have wanted to strangle each and every single one of them.

It's quite astonishing: Even in a theoretical physics department - i.e. a working environment staffed (almost) exclusively from those nerds too nerdy not to pay them for it - there's an surprising amount of non-functional printers. Accompanied by an unsurprising amount of people adamant about how easily they'd be able to fix this 1980s tech (*), if only they could be bothered to get their planet-sized brains interested in the task (**)(***), of course ...  :wink:

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(*) It takes a very strong ego to admit to technical ineptitude if part of your identity is based on looking down on people with advanced degrees in experimental physics or engineering ...
(**) Senior denizens are familiar with the most elegant way of fixing a printer: Holler for the grad-student, of course!
(***) Actually, most of the offending printers aren't unfunctional so much as very badly configured - or rather: The networks meant to access the printers are. (****)
(****) An obvious consequence of several decades of senior planet-sized brains solving problems by means of 'Hollering for the grad-student' - most of whom will leave the department for a better paying job without leaving a legible documentation of the solutions they implemented ...
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Re: WCDT Strips 4026-4030 (17th to 21st June 2019)
« Reply #18 on: 16 Jun 2019, 22:25 »

Ok, I get that the comic always does it's best to 'humanize' the ai's, but are you seriously trying to tell me that an AI can't access google (or whatever takes it's place in this universe) and find a video on how to install a cartridge?

Watching a video doesn't magically confer the ability to do it right.
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Re: WCDT Strips 4026-4030 (17th to 21st June 2019)
« Reply #19 on: 16 Jun 2019, 22:26 »

Okay, conspiracy theorist's tin-foil hat firmly on here: I'm starting to think that this robot aid charity is a scam, based on the fact that Beepatrice has absolutely no clue how to actually help May. I'm starting to wonder if the organisation has helped a big fat zero AIs in any practical way and all they do is listen to their clients' 'sob stories' and then hand out leaflets for therapy and support groups that are all about how nothing can be changed. Indeed, it was for this purpose that this largely Federally-funded organisation was originally founded - to give needy AIs the impression someone was going to bat for them when nobody actually was. This would stop them from rocking the economic and political boat too much by working hard to change things and instead wait patiently for the assistance for which the organisation is unequipped and organisationally unable to offer.

Nelson has managed to be Employee of the Month so many times because he has held the record for  the number of AIs he manages to disabuse of any notion that anyone will give them practical assistance and, instead, that they must learn to accept their lot in life. Maybe he'll be the one to explain it to Roko (much like how O'Malley was the voice of the cynical policeman). Roko is going to get in a lot of trouble for actually offering May practical assistance by bothering people in the Department of Corrections over something that no-one (in power) is even remotely concerned about.

I've just got the impression that Roko and Beeps are going to end up having to go freelance after actually succeeding in helping May, this leading members of the Federal bureaucracy to demand that her supervisors 'do something about the loose cannon'.

After #4026, I want to put on a tin-foil hat, just like BenRG.
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« Reply #20 on: 16 Jun 2019, 22:29 »

Ok, I get that the comic always does it's best to 'humanize' the ai's, but are you seriously trying to tell me that an AI can't access google (or whatever takes it's place in this universe) and find a video on how to install a cartridge?

Watching a video doesn't magically confer the ability to do it right.

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Re: WCDT Strips 4026-4030 (17th to 21st June 2019)
« Reply #21 on: 16 Jun 2019, 23:23 »

Yeah, today's strip really reinforced for me the impression that this whole organisation is a kind of 'rain catcher', intended to convince AIs that they can help better others lives (staff) or that someone wants to help them better their lives (clients) without actually rocking the boat by achieving anything. The purpose isn't malign really; it's just the result of the bureaucracy's obsession with maintaining the status quo as much as possible and dealing with complaints as efficiently as possible without actually changing anything.

I'm pretty sure that Roko will shortly find that the printer hasn't even been installed on the network and she needs to locate and install the drivers too!
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Re: WCDT Strips 4026-4030 (17th to 21st June 2019)
« Reply #22 on: 17 Jun 2019, 03:15 »

there's an surprising amount of non-functional printers. Accompanied by an unsurprising amount of people adamant about how easily they'd be able to fix this 1980s tech (*), if only they could be bothered to get their planet-sized brains interested in the task, of course ...

Ten or more years ago I had a thing going for a time when I would repair a couple of models of HP printer by taking out a particular control card and baking it in my oven at home at 180įC for 14 minutes.  Easy when you know how...
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Re: WCDT Strips 4026-4030 (17th to 21st June 2019)
« Reply #23 on: 17 Jun 2019, 05:44 »

I've worked with a lot of people like Beepatrice and they are some of the nicest people on the planet.

And the very sad thing is that I have worked with so many people like Beepatrice.

And I have wanted to strangle each and every single one of them.

It's quite astonishing: Even in a theoretical physics department - i.e. a working environment staffed (almost) exclusively from those nerds too nerdy not to pay them for it - there's an surprising amount of non-functional printers. Accompanied by an unsurprising amount of people adamant about how easily they'd be able to fix this 1980s tech (*), if only they could be bothered to get their planet-sized brains interested in the task (**)(***), of course ...  :wink:

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(***) Actually, most of the offending printers aren't unfunctional so much as very badly configured - or rather: The networks meant to access the printers are. (****)
(****) An obvious consequence of several decades of senior planet-sized brains solving problems by means of 'Hollering for the grad-student' - most of whom will leave the department for a better paying job without leaving a legible documentation of the solutions they implemented ...

Honestly, the printers in experimental physics don't work much better. When I was at Wisconsin, we had a printer that would detect a paper jam after every page printed. The workaround was to pull out the paper tray, reinsert it, and press the button to tell the printer to continue. This got very inconvenient on long documents.
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Re: WCDT Strips 4026-4030 (17th to 21st June 2019)
« Reply #24 on: 17 Jun 2019, 05:51 »

BEEPATRICE: "'PC Load Letter'? What the glitch does that mean?!?"
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Re: WCDT Strips 4026-4030 (17th to 21st June 2019)
« Reply #25 on: 17 Jun 2019, 06:16 »

Seems as though unloading on May's sourness back at the inconvenience store (Kiss my new-cah-smellin-ass!) might have made Roko a little more at ease with herself.
And though I risk being accused of being judgy about apparel, a crop top and shorts worn in public has got to be a sign of someone comfortable in their own skin. Or polymer, as the case may be.
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Re: WCDT Strips 4026-4030 (17th to 21st June 2019)
« Reply #26 on: 17 Jun 2019, 08:44 »

Beepatrice is not really of much help...
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Re: WCDT Strips 4026-4030 (17th to 21st June 2019)
« Reply #27 on: 17 Jun 2019, 08:48 »

Maybe they help out by hiring the AI they need to help. And Nelson is the original founder, who made his money by Pintsize-esque acts, but still hoping one day to hire someone to come up with a better solution.
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Re: WCDT Strips 4026-4030 (17th to 21st June 2019)
« Reply #28 on: 17 Jun 2019, 09:01 »

@Cornelius,

At Roko's job interview, Beepatrice stated that the position is unpaid volunteer work. That's why Roko was looking for work at The Secret Bakery.
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« Reply #29 on: 17 Jun 2019, 09:17 »

I know. Never mind.
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« Reply #30 on: 17 Jun 2019, 12:23 »

Beepatrice is not really of much help...
That's an understatement on the level of "it's quite hot inside a star's core."
She appears to be what I call "fucking useless."
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Re: WCDT Strips 4026-4030 (17th to 21st June 2019)
« Reply #31 on: 17 Jun 2019, 12:49 »

It's kind of hard for me to swallow a piece of living tech having such a lack of tech-savviness.

Arcee: Maybe it needs one of these doohickeys... [Holds up a part]
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« Reply #32 on: 17 Jun 2019, 13:32 »

Ten or more years ago I had a thing going for a time when I would repair a couple of models of HP printer by taking out a particular control card and baking it in my oven at home at 180įC for 14 minutes.  Easy when you know how...
They had some soldering issues in those days.  I've got a HP laptop out in the garage that needs that same treatment - video circuit quit working.  I should bake it and load Linux.
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« Reply #33 on: 17 Jun 2019, 13:38 »

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Re: WCDT Strips 4026-4030 (17th to 21st June 2019)
« Reply #35 on: 17 Jun 2019, 14:31 »

... the printer hasn't even been installed on the network and she needs to locate and install the drivers too!
Isn't it established that AIs have USB ports, so they would only need to plug the printer into their own port.
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« Reply #36 on: 17 Jun 2019, 14:45 »

Perhaps the printer is old enough to use a parallel port.
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« Reply #37 on: 17 Jun 2019, 15:06 »

Would Beeps even be aware she has USB ports? And if so, would she know how to install the proper driver?
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Re: WCDT Strips 4026-4030 (17th to 21st June 2019)
« Reply #38 on: 17 Jun 2019, 17:22 »

Perhaps the printer is old enough to use a parallel port.
My thought exactly.  (I think we may be old, Hedgie.)
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Re: WCDT Strips 4026-4030 (17th to 21st June 2019)
« Reply #39 on: 17 Jun 2019, 17:34 »

It's kind of hard for me to swallow a piece of living tech having such a lack of tech-savviness.

There's an exchange in Transformers Prime  that I think addresses this nicely:

    Arcee: Maybe it needs one of these doohickeys... [Holds up a part]
    Jack: You're a motorcycle, Arcee. Shouldn't you know how to build a motorcycle engine?
    Arcee: You're a human, Jack. Can you build me a small intestine?


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EDIT 2: 'h' not 'j' in 'exchange'. Tired brain is tired.
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Re: WCDT Strips 4026-4030 (17th to 21st June 2019)
« Reply #40 on: 17 Jun 2019, 17:39 »

....Gyrre....Literally 8 posts above yours.
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« Reply #41 on: 17 Jun 2019, 20:32 »

....Gyrre....Literally 8 posts above yours.
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Re: WCDT Strips 4026-4030 (17th to 21st June 2019)
« Reply #42 on: 17 Jun 2019, 20:34 »

It occurs to me the ONLY thing we've seen them actually DO is the support group.

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Re: WCDT Strips 4026-4030 (17th to 21st June 2019)
« Reply #43 on: 17 Jun 2019, 20:38 »

I wonder if Beepatrice has thought of taking a modern computing class ("Computing Today" or whathaveyou).

It'll at least have them caught up for a little while.
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Re: WCDT Strips 4026-4030 (17th to 21st June 2019)
« Reply #44 on: 17 Jun 2019, 20:45 »

@Cornelius,

At Roko's job interview, Beepatrice stated that the position is unpaid volunteer work. That's why Roko was looking for work at The Secret Bakery.
They're underpaid, not unpaid: https://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=3883
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Re: WCDT Strips 4026-4030 (17th to 21st June 2019)
« Reply #45 on: 17 Jun 2019, 21:22 »

Does this confirm Beepatrice as using she/her, or is there any direct WoG otherwise (like maybe these characters don't know Beep's pronouns)? I remember being unsure about some references in the past, while personally hoping for they/them.
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Re: WCDT Strips 4026-4030 (17th to 21st June 2019)
« Reply #46 on: 17 Jun 2019, 23:25 »

Wow, Roko is taking charge, isn't she? Given Beepatrice's reaction, this may be the first time someone actually came into that office and decided to do something! For what it's worth, "She means well" is an example of damning with faint praise. Roko likes Beeps, but she can't say that they are really any good at this caper!

Meanwhile, I have to laugh with May basically saying that she pre-emptively denies consent to Beepatrice in any way having management or any influence over her case.

As for the password thing. I'm pretty sure that the admin password for the office network is going to turn out to be "1234567890"!

Does this confirm Beepatrice as using she/her, or is there any direct WoG otherwise (like maybe these characters don't know Beep's pronouns)? I remember being unsure about some references in the past, while personally hoping for they/them.

When  this was first mentioned to me (last week, I think), I was quite surprised because I don't remember this being mentioned in any of their previous appearances. Has Beepatrice mentioned this to Roko? Is there any reason why Roko should know? Is it the sort of thing someone will come out with when meeting someone for the first time? I'm wondering if Jeph is setting up Roko and Beepatrice discussing this at some point in the immediate future.
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Re: WCDT Strips 4026-4030 (17th to 21st June 2019)
« Reply #47 on: 17 Jun 2019, 23:29 »

It's kind of hard for me to swallow a piece of living tech having such a lack of tech-savviness.

There's an excjange in Transformers Prime  that I think addresses this nicely:

    Arcee: Maybe it needs one of these doohickeys... [Holds up a part]
    Jack: You're a motorcycle, Arcee. Shouldn't you know how to build a motorcycle engine?
    Arcee: You're a human, Jack. Can you build me a small intestine?


EDIT: note to self; refresh page and search for responses before responding.

Hey at least you have good taste in cartoons :P.
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Re: WCDT Strips 4026-4030 (17th to 21st June 2019)
« Reply #48 on: 18 Jun 2019, 00:47 »

Right now, Beepatrice feels like trying to quench a fire with a squirt gun... and is unable to find the trigger.
Meanwhile, Roko is looking for a fire extinguisher. Let's hope she does get a working one.
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Re: WCDT Strips 4026-4030 (17th to 21st June 2019)
« Reply #49 on: 18 Jun 2019, 01:12 »

It occurs to me the ONLY thing we've seen them actually DO is the support group.

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Poor May.

Support groups are important. I forgot about that. So they are actually good at something.
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