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What would bring Marten the best possible life?

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Author Topic: WCDT Strips 4151-4155 (9-13 December2019)  (Read 4129 times)

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Re: WCDT Strips 4151-4155 (9-13 December2019)
« Reply #100 on: 12 Dec 2019, 11:10 »

So this definitely wouldn’t apply.....




.....?  ;D
That’s not country music, that’s good country music, totally different genre. :angel:
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Re: WCDT Strips 4151-4155 (9-13 December2019)
« Reply #101 on: 12 Dec 2019, 11:11 »


Now if only RAP had a redeeming artist or two

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Re: WCDT Strips 4151-4155 (9-13 December2019)
« Reply #102 on: 12 Dec 2019, 11:18 »


Now if only RAP had a redeeming artist or two

Blondie
Weird Al


Oh, if we're going there...

MC Frontalot
Mega Ran
Schaffer the Darklord
Beefy
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Kabuto the Python

...just to name a few.
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Re: WCDT Strips 4151-4155 (9-13 December2019)
« Reply #103 on: 12 Dec 2019, 11:44 »

That was a difficult poll.  lessons/repair/counseling all seem so plausible.
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Re: WCDT Strips 4151-4155 (9-13 December2019)
« Reply #104 on: 12 Dec 2019, 12:29 »

Country still sucks though.
But you have to accept that there are exceptions to the suckiness of the genre
  • Stomping Tom
  • Johnny Cash

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Re: WCDT Strips 4151-4155 (9-13 December2019)
« Reply #105 on: 12 Dec 2019, 12:47 »

Country still sucks though.
But you have to accept that there are exceptions to the suckiness of the genre
  • Stomping Tom
  • Johnny Cash

I accept no such thing.
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Still not feeling it. Just not my personal tastes.
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Re: WCDT Strips 4151-4155 (9-13 December2019)
« Reply #106 on: 12 Dec 2019, 13:00 »

So this definitely wouldn’t apply.....
...
.....?  ;D
That’s not country music, that’s good country music, totally different genre. :angel:
<snicker> 

No, it wouldn't  apply.  Mr. Denver released about 3 pop albums which had a country flavor to them - and a few other artists did at about that same time because electric guitars were finally becoming accepted as a lead instrument in Nashville - which led to a cross-over period where it was extremely difficult to identify a tune as either/or.  They were rather genre-fluid, if I can bastardize that other term into this service...   :wink: :-D :-)
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Re: WCDT Strips 4151-4155 (9-13 December2019)
« Reply #107 on: 12 Dec 2019, 14:11 »

Actually, come to think of it and talking about Country, has Sven never attended a Country Music Awards or received an award? Do Country fans not know or care one of the most successful writers of Nashville Country is some hipster in a Northern college town? I know like all forms of popular music the majority fans focus on the singers and in county the myth of the singer songwriter is particularly pervasive, so you get your airhead Nashville singers changing a couple words to get a writing credit, but like any form of music you get the superfans and music nerds who follow the writers as well
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Re: WCDT Strips 4151-4155 (9-13 December2019)
« Reply #108 on: 12 Dec 2019, 16:30 »

As uncommon as it maybe among comic readers (myself unfortunately included); stable relationships do exist, and most people aren't perpetually 4 panels of dialogue away from damaging said relationship
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Re: WCDT Strips 4151-4155 (9-13 December2019)
« Reply #109 on: 12 Dec 2019, 17:16 »

Actually, come to think of it and talking about Country, has Sven never attended a Country Music Awards or received an award? Do Country fans not know or care one of the most successful writers of Nashville Country is some hipster in a Northern college town? I know like all forms of popular music the majority fans focus on the singers and in county the myth of the singer songwriter is particularly pervasive, so you get your airhead Nashville singers changing a couple words to get a writing credit, but like any form of music you get the super fans and music nerds who follow the writers as well.

Funny you should say that. Long ago I had a fan fic that featured one of my characters who actually recorded one of Sven's songs. She'd heard of him, enough to engage the Plot Device of "we need someone to be a sound board mixer" for a concert at Smif.

Truth be told - and beware, I'm a fan of the city of Nashville (and yes, I have done the touristy trio of the Opry, the CMHOF, and the Ryman) - most country music writers aren't all that rich, but if they get that One Big Hit, that usually is their meal ticket for the rest of their life.

BTW: Garth Brooks and Shania Twain were about the point where country music took a fork in the road into "Country Pop". Those two pretty much led the way for a certain singer who initially wrote about Teardrops on (Her) Guitar.
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Re: WCDT Strips 4151-4155 (9-13 December2019)
« Reply #110 on: 12 Dec 2019, 20:32 »

"this comic was sponsored by Hickory Farms"

Admittedly, that's who I think of for food gift baskets too.

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Re: WCDT Strips 4151-4155 (9-13 December2019)
« Reply #111 on: 12 Dec 2019, 21:30 »

Coming from the banks of the Huangpu River, I've always had a bit of a yen for a little junk-rigged sampan. Boat disease is insidious.

I assume Hickory Farms sells gift-baskets? In my experience such baskets are full of things I don't eat.
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Re: WCDT Strips 4151-4155 (9-13 December2019)
« Reply #112 on: 12 Dec 2019, 23:20 »

Today's strip is as close as we're likely to ever get to 'the old gang being together again'! It's worth remembering sometimes that the characters have social connections outside those that are regularly shown on-screen. However, it's always good to think about the fact that a lot of Marten's commonly-seen connections are fairly recent. I wonder if we'll ever run into any more of his acquaintances from the West Coast the way we did at his father's wedding?

Meanwhile, I think that the main point of today's strip is that Dora and Steve also believe that Marten was in a rut but didn't feel able to discuss it with him, let alone urge him to change. Fortunately, as his girlfriend, Claire has several advantages to utilise in that area and she has used them. For that, they owe her their thanks!
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Re: WCDT Strips 4151-4155 (9-13 December2019)
« Reply #113 on: 13 Dec 2019, 00:18 »


Now if only RAP had a redeeming artist or two

Blondie
Weird Al


Oh, if we're going there...

MC Frontalot
Mega Ran
Schaffer the Darklord
Beefy
Shubzilla
Kabuto the Python

...just to name a few.
DiGi Valentine, José the Bronx Rican, a couple others on OverClocked ReMix I can't think of off the top of my head.
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Re: WCDT Strips 4151-4155 (9-13 December2019)
« Reply #114 on: 13 Dec 2019, 00:22 »

Country still sucks though.
But you have to accept that there are exceptions to the suckiness of the genre
  • Stomping Tom
  • Johnny Cash

I accept no such thing.
3 words:
Townes Van Zandt

This isn't entirely country music, but it's still pretty good.


EDIT: I'll also suggest Darren Korb's soundtrack for the game Bastion.
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Re: WCDT Strips 4151-4155 (9-13 December2019)
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Re: WCDT Strips 4151-4155 (9-13 December2019)
« Reply #116 on: 13 Dec 2019, 04:25 »


Now if only RAP had a redeeming artist or two

Blondie
Weird Al


Oh, if we're going there...

MC Frontalot
Mega Ran
Schaffer the Darklord
Beefy
Shubzilla
Kabuto the Python

...just to name a few.
DiGi Valentine, José the Bronx Rican, a couple others on OverClocked ReMix I can't think of off the top of my head.

OCR Songs with lyrics are generally questionable at best.
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Re: WCDT Strips 4151-4155 (9-13 December2019)
« Reply #117 on: 13 Dec 2019, 05:01 »

So this definitely wouldn’t apply.....
....?  ;D
That’s not country music, that’s good country music, totally different genre. :angel:
Actually, this song was written by the same duo that wrote Afternoon Delight https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wu1UXCdyNo0, making it even more of a cross-over, genre-bending tune.
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Re: WCDT Strips 4151-4155 (9-13 December2019)
« Reply #118 on: 13 Dec 2019, 09:50 »

So are we just ignoring Run DMC?
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Re: WCDT Strips 4151-4155 (9-13 December2019)
« Reply #119 on: 13 Dec 2019, 11:37 »

Whatever is in store for Marten & Claire (is "Claireten" the accepted local portmanteau?) I have confidence it won't be boring or expected, and it will play out over years of real-world time.

And yeah, Claire and Pintsize do have a weirdly wholesome friendship. Pintsize seems to enjoy taking on different roles with different people.

He doesn't seem to want a different or humanoid body at the moment, but I shudder to imagine what would happen if he did...
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Re: WCDT Strips 4151-4155 (9-13 December2019)
« Reply #120 on: 13 Dec 2019, 12:03 »

(Pintsize) doesn't seem to want a different or humanoid body at the moment, but I shudder to imagine what would happen if he did...

A part of me hopes that Pintsize will fall madly in love some day, and end up being the sappiest, syrupiest member of the cast by far.  At least for a little while, until he comes off that new-relationship high...
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Re: WCDT Strips 4151-4155 (9-13 December2019)
« Reply #121 on: 13 Dec 2019, 12:22 »

somewhat to the "is it county" threadlets:  A while back Shooter Jennings had 'Put the "O" Back in Country' :}  A bit of overreaction to the wave of estrogen pop that seemed to be taking over.
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Re: WCDT Strips 4151-4155 (9-13 December2019)
« Reply #122 on: 13 Dec 2019, 13:44 »

Country music, like all musical genres, is very ill-defined - there's stuff that is unmistakably country and nothing else, but at the edges it overlaps with many other genres. Many songs by the Eagles stand firmly in the gray zone where rock meets country, for example. There's country-folk, country-gospel, country-blues, country-pop (which is much of what is played on most "country" radio stations these days), bluegrass (which is either a subgenre of country or a separate but related genre, depending on who you ask), and as Lil Nas X proved, there's even country rap. And, God help us, country metal. Plus too many others to mention.

So don't go painting country music with too broad a brush, because there is a lot of variety in there. It's not all the type of absurd trash that Sven writes.
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Re: WCDT Strips 4151-4155 (9-13 December2019)
« Reply #123 on: 13 Dec 2019, 15:44 »

Country music, like all musical genres, is very ill-defined - there's stuff that is unmistakably country and nothing else, but at the edges it overlaps with many other genres. Many songs by the Eagles stand firmly in the gray zone where rock meets country, for example. There's country-folk, country-gospel, country-blues, country-pop (which is much of what is played on most "country" radio stations these days), bluegrass (which is either a subgenre of country or a separate but related genre, depending on who you ask), and as Lil Nas X proved, there's even country rap. And, God help us, country metal. Plus too many others to mention.

So don't go painting country music with too broad a brush, because there is a lot of variety in there. It's not all the type of absurd trash that Sven writes.
There's even cinematic prog-rockabilly (no, seriously).

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Re: WCDT Strips 4151-4155 (9-13 December2019)
« Reply #124 on: 13 Dec 2019, 18:46 »

Country Metal = Hayseed Dixie.
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Re: WCDT Strips 4151-4155 (9-13 December2019)
« Reply #125 on: 14 Dec 2019, 00:26 »

IIRC Dora is canonically the oldest of the gang, and should by now be near her 30th birthday (She was 28 when she dated Jim).

Do you have a reference for that?  Because she was definitely 26 early on, and as you said, she's canonically older than the others.
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Re: WCDT Strips 4151-4155 (9-13 December2019)
« Reply #126 on: 14 Dec 2019, 00:39 »

IIRC Dora is canonically the oldest of the gang, and should by now be near her 30th birthday (She was 28 when she dated Jim).

Do you have a reference for that?  Because she was definitely 26 early on, and as you said, she's canonically older than the others.
In 1954 Jim mentions that he's 41, and in 1958 he says that Sam is 13, upon which Dora replies that he must have had Sam when he was Dora's current age. 41-13=28
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Re: WCDT Strips 4151-4155 (9-13 December2019)
« Reply #127 on: 14 Dec 2019, 08:41 »

I think it's canonically acceptable to say Dora is 30. +/-. Several winters have passed since the beginning.
Since Marten had been working an office job for some time, I guess it's safe to assume that he was something like 22 to 24 8n the beginning.

I wouldn't be surprised if Dora went "I want to get married before 30". There's surprisingly many people who have an issue getting pregnant or married being 30 or older.
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Re: WCDT Strips 4151-4155 (9-13 December2019)
« Reply #128 on: 16 Dec 2019, 05:01 »

I wouldn't be surprised if Dora went "I want to get married before 30". There's surprisingly many people who have an issue getting pregnant or married being 30 or older.
That's all about cultural expectations, and still seems to be changing in many respects and groupings.
Getting pregnant: it's turning out there's good reasons to before 30, and certainly before 50.  Egg quality something, somesuch, blah blah blah, etc.  Look it up; the research is out there and tagged appropriately.
Getting married: for women, especially pregnant ones: keeping a helper around to raise the children is probably an evolutionary advantage.  For men, not so much: they benefit from marriage much later in life than women, or so the evidence seems to suggest at the moment.
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Re: WCDT Strips 4151-4155 (9-13 December2019)
« Reply #129 on: 16 Dec 2019, 15:47 »

I've been told both within hours years back. "how old are you?" - "21." - "ah, time to start breeding", and "you've got another decade".
Given those exchanges happened more than ten years ago, and I've neither tied the knot nor bred, do I feel like I've lost something? As a guy, I'd say no, but still.
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