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Re: WCDT strips 4241-4245 (13th April to 17th April, 2020)
« Reply #50 on: 14 Apr 2020, 23:04 »

I can see the dog's point of view. Millie looks more or less human but she doesn't sound human or smell human, so, naturally, the dog decides to go to 'warning/alarm' mode. Then Brun suddenly steps forwards and knows the Words (or, more accurately, the tone of voice and body language). Then she makes with the skritches and all is right in a certain good boy's world!

As a PS, I don't know what a millifeulle would look like either but I like the sound of it! Curse my diabetes!
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Re: WCDT strips 4241-4245 (13th April to 17th April, 2020)
« Reply #51 on: 14 Apr 2020, 23:27 »

Is the latter sometimes offset by periods of intense hyperfocusing?


Yeah, sometimes...  and sometimes, I'm even able to channel that into doing something productive!  :)
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Re: WCDT strips 4241-4245 (13th April to 17th April, 2020)
« Reply #52 on: 15 Apr 2020, 01:24 »

As a PS, I don't know what a millifeulle would look like either but I like the sound of it! Curse my diabetes!

Some suggestions:
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In Belgium, you can get it as a Tompouce, which, however, does not have a middle layer of puff pastry.

In some places, you can get a millefeuille sandwich, which replaces the puff pastry with slices of bread, and the crème patissière with vegetables, cheese, and meats; with some dressings and/or honey, depending on what they put in between exactly.

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« Last Edit: 15 Apr 2020, 02:45 by Cornelius »
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Re: WCDT strips 4241-4245 (13th April to 17th April, 2020)
« Reply #53 on: 15 Apr 2020, 02:20 »

Even the dog is impressed by Millefeuille's new butt!
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Re: WCDT strips 4241-4245 (13th April to 17th April, 2020)
« Reply #54 on: 15 Apr 2020, 04:28 »

Dogs sniff butts. It’s a thing they do.

And again I see parallels between myself and Brun. I may not always understand humans but I totally get dogs and vice versa. I speak their language.

I have a dog sleeping on my foot right now.
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Re: WCDT strips 4241-4245 (13th April to 17th April, 2020)
« Reply #55 on: 15 Apr 2020, 04:29 »

So the desert milifuelle is basically a multi-decker sandwich (cake? bar?) made with turnover dough wafers and custard?


Hmmm..... I might have to try to make this.

EDIT: Adding possible substitution words that may fit better than 'sandwich'. I'm no professional patisserie.
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Re: WCDT strips 4241-4245 (13th April to 17th April, 2020)
« Reply #56 on: 15 Apr 2020, 04:35 »

Basically. It's not hard to make - if you buy the puff pastry. Even if you don't, not hard to make, just takes time.

Hardest thing is to eat it, without spilling out the custard. :laugh:
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Re: WCDT strips 4241-4245 (13th April to 17th April, 2020)
« Reply #57 on: 15 Apr 2020, 05:40 »

Is the latter sometimes offset by periods of intense hyper-focusing?
Yeah, sometimes...  and sometimes, I'm even able to channel that into doing something productive!  :)
Similar - this whole multitasking thing that manager types espouse I find totally alien and from my observations of others generate less efficiency and a higher incidence of errors.
It is something loved and embraced by those who have the attention span of caffeinated sugared up toddler on acid.
This may be why I had a love of the sciences early on and in my working life I fell into QC and latter on ended up a CQE on the engineering side of my industry.
Limited human interaction and predictable and controllable environment. Yeah I despise troubleshooting when going in blind.

As to feeling like an entity sitting in the drivers seat of a "ME" chassis while experiencing interpersonal interactions as "a stranger in a strange land" [I seem to have them fooled so far but seem to be getting suspicious], it is something that bubbles forth into my consciousness only when not having to put energy into said interactions or having external tasks to concentrate on.
This may be why I have a love of computer RPGs and RPGs in general [was the only way I was able to actually socialize] since they are similar to Real Life(tm) but without the negative repercussions and I can pretend at being someone else doing more interesting things that are not possible in  Real Life(tm).
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Re: WCDT strips 4241-4245 (13th April to 17th April, 2020)
« Reply #58 on: 15 Apr 2020, 05:52 »

So the desert milifuelle is basically a multi-decker sandwich (cake? bar?) made with turnover dough wafers and custard?


Hmmm..... I might have to try to make this.

EDIT: Adding possible substitution words that may fit better than 'sandwich'. I'm no professional patisserie.

It's layers of puff pastry containing thick custard (crème patissière). Often, you find some sugar frosting on the top, but I prefer just some icing sugar, personaly. I like this one, with hazelnuts, even if it is expensive: https://www.pierreherme.com/2000-feuilles.html
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Re: WCDT strips 4241-4245 (13th April to 17th April, 2020)
« Reply #59 on: 15 Apr 2020, 08:06 »

Dark Shebly  :laugh:
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Re: WCDT strips 4241-4245 (13th April to 17th April, 2020)
« Reply #60 on: 15 Apr 2020, 09:01 »

Everybody is different.

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Re: WCDT strips 4241-4245 (13th April to 17th April, 2020)
« Reply #61 on: 15 Apr 2020, 09:30 »

I can see the dog's point of view. Millie looks more or less human but she doesn't sound human or smell human, so, naturally, the dog decides to go to 'warning/alarm' mode. Then Brun suddenly steps forwards and knows the Words (or, more accurately, the tone of voice and body language). Then she makes with the skritches and all is right in a certain good boy's world!

Leonbergers are just bouncy and happy a lot of the time and will also do the barking and play bow to get someone to come and play. They can throw a mean punch too (although it's just the dog asking for attention), and it comes in at crotch height so be ready to dodge.
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Re: WCDT strips 4241-4245 (13th April to 17th April, 2020)
« Reply #62 on: 15 Apr 2020, 09:50 »

Everybody is different.

...I'm not.

All people are equal. Some are equaler.



Comic's up.

So. who is the Dog Whisperer, Brun or Emily?

Brun is what Emily aspires to be.

I'm not surprised Brun is good with dogs. They are "simple", in a straightforward way, and easier to read than humans.
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Re: WCDT strips 4241-4245 (13th April to 17th April, 2020)
« Reply #63 on: 15 Apr 2020, 17:15 »

Brun's in the wrong job! They'd love her in puppy training school!
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Re: WCDT strips 4241-4245 (13th April to 17th April, 2020)
« Reply #64 on: 15 Apr 2020, 19:54 »

More dog owners need to get that lecture, annoyingly.

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Re: WCDT strips 4241-4245 (13th April to 17th April, 2020)
« Reply #65 on: 15 Apr 2020, 22:15 »

More dog owners need to get that lecture, annoyingly.

Agreed.

Also, I like that some cities have started implementing leash laws for cats.
I'm allergic and our neighbors cats won't stay off of our porch. Putting down cayenne seems a bit harsh and pointless with all the wind and rain on the weekends.
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Re: WCDT strips 4241-4245 (13th April to 17th April, 2020)
« Reply #66 on: 15 Apr 2020, 22:21 »

That is one of my pet peeves. I don't mind if you are taking your dog to an enclosed park that is size separated for small and big dogs, but if you are in a open park with many people and animals around, you should leash your dog.
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Re: WCDT strips 4241-4245 (13th April to 17th April, 2020)
« Reply #67 on: 15 Apr 2020, 23:25 »

FWIW, I have already fallen in love with Rupert the Bear-Dog.

Yeah, Brun strikes me as the sort of person who would obey posted rules because they are posted rules and find it odd that anyone wouldn't immediately do so. Meanwhile, this guy has one of the most irritating personality traits that I know of: Just don't bother thinking about the consequences to doing exactly what you want to do, no matter the risks. The number of fatal accidents triggered by this mindset boggles the mind.
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Re: WCDT strips 4241-4245 (13th April to 17th April, 2020)
« Reply #68 on: 16 Apr 2020, 03:21 »

Brun's lecture resonates with me a whole lot, too many people don't concern themselves with what consequences their actions might have.
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Re: WCDT strips 4241-4245 (13th April to 17th April, 2020)
« Reply #69 on: 16 Apr 2020, 07:36 »

FWIW, I have already fallen in love with Rupert the Bear-Dog.

Yeah, Brun strikes me as the sort of person who would obey posted rules because they are posted rules and find it odd that anyone wouldn't immediately do so. Meanwhile, this guy has one of the most irritating personality traits that I know of: Just don't bother thinking about the consequences to doing exactly what you want to do, no matter the risks. The number of fatal accidents triggered by this mindset boggles the mind.

"Rules are not binding, only guidelines. If enough other people keep to the rules, nothing will happen". Seen enough of those people who only keep to the rules if it's in their favor.
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Re: WCDT strips 4241-4245 (13th April to 17th April, 2020)
« Reply #70 on: 16 Apr 2020, 08:09 »

I don't care what the rules are. If a stranger lectured me in public like that (A person of Brun's age no less--how old is she 20? 21?) I would LOSE MY SHIT.
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Re: WCDT strips 4241-4245 (13th April to 17th April, 2020)
« Reply #71 on: 16 Apr 2020, 08:25 »

Would it matter whether or not you were in the right?

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Re: WCDT strips 4241-4245 (13th April to 17th April, 2020)
« Reply #72 on: 16 Apr 2020, 15:42 »

Brün is clearly in the right, and Rupert's person is man enough to admit it. Maybe another new friend?
Brün can take a stand on things that matter to her. And she's open to new experiences. (Millefueille is now on my own list of Things to Try.)
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Re: WCDT strips 4241-4245 (13th April to 17th April, 2020)
« Reply #73 on: 16 Apr 2020, 18:29 »

Comic’s up.

An explosion is imminent. Or probably not. Foreshadowing is never foreshadowing until it is.
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Re: WCDT strips 4241-4245 (13th April to 17th April, 2020)
« Reply #74 on: 16 Apr 2020, 18:30 »

If I remember, Brun was pretty deadpan when the old bar burnt down too.

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Re: WCDT strips 4241-4245 (13th April to 17th April, 2020)
« Reply #75 on: 16 Apr 2020, 19:04 »

I don't care what the rules are. If a stranger lectured me in public like that (A person of Brun's age no less--how old is she 20? 21?) I would LOSE MY SHIT.

What does Brun's age matter? He was in the wrong. So would you have been in that situation.

If I watched this scenario, and you lost your shit verbally, you'd be getting a second lecture from me about being an a-hole and listening to the rules.
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Re: WCDT strips 4241-4245 (13th April to 17th April, 2020)
« Reply #76 on: 16 Apr 2020, 19:18 »

An explosion is imminent. Or probably not. Foreshadowing is never foreshadowing until it is.

Brun has already recently been in the area of an explosion; the aftermath was the start of this current storyline.

Did anyone else notice that Rupert's owner looks an awful lot like a smaller Elliot?
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Re: WCDT strips 4241-4245 (13th April to 17th April, 2020)
« Reply #77 on: 16 Apr 2020, 21:30 »

I don't care what the rules are. If a stranger lectured me in public like that (A person of Brun's age no less--how old is she 20? 21?) I would LOSE MY SHIT.

I wouldn't lose my shit about it as what she said in the second and third panel was fair enough but the lecturing tone and condescending pose by the last panel would have tested my patience.
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Re: WCDT strips 4241-4245 (13th April to 17th April, 2020)
« Reply #78 on: 16 Apr 2020, 21:36 »

Do people still ask for phone numbers these days? Seems archaic.
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Re: WCDT strips 4241-4245 (13th April to 17th April, 2020)
« Reply #79 on: 16 Apr 2020, 21:39 »

Awww.

Too many things in Brün's life have blown up or burned down.
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Re: WCDT strips 4241-4245 (13th April to 17th April, 2020)
« Reply #80 on: 16 Apr 2020, 21:41 »

Do people still ask for phone numbers these days? Seems archaic.
No one is going to call, obviously, but you still need a number to text someone.
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Re: WCDT strips 4241-4245 (13th April to 17th April, 2020)
« Reply #81 on: 16 Apr 2020, 22:11 »



Meanwhile, this guy has one of the most irritating personality traits that I know of: Just don't bother thinking about the consequences to doing exactly what you want to do, no matter the risks. The number of fatal accidents triggered by this mindset boggles the mind.

People who refuse to follow shelter in place or social distancing rules during this pandemic because “they aren’t among the most vulnerable” kind of have this attitude.
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Re: WCDT strips 4241-4245 (13th April to 17th April, 2020)
« Reply #82 on: 16 Apr 2020, 23:26 »

This is Brun though, isn't it? She doesn't waste time on sugar-coating things, especially with those with whom she has no real personal connection. She isn't interested in a person who ignores rules and puts good boys in danger, so she isn't interested in further association with that person. Why should that fluster her? Sometimes she's quite certain that her copy of the manual "How to Human" was missing a few pages... or maybe even chapters... but she manages.

Meanwhile, if there is any foreshadowing here, I suspect that it will be that Milliefeulle is destined to be there when Brun gets flustered at something that isn't an explosion.
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« Reply #83 on: 16 Apr 2020, 23:46 »

Do people still ask for phone numbers these days? Seems archaic.
No one is going to call, obviously, but you still need a number to text someone.

I still thought people had moved on from boring SMS. Like whatsapp, tiktok, instagram, signal, whatever.
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Re: WCDT strips 4241-4245 (13th April to 17th April, 2020)
« Reply #84 on: 17 Apr 2020, 00:34 »

I dunno. I still keep my real life shit and my online shit as separate as possible. Online is my refuge from real life. I don't want the people I am physically involved with tracking me down online, too, if I can help it.
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« Reply #85 on: 17 Apr 2020, 02:00 »

I'm the same way, but I always figured that was just because I'm old.
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Re: WCDT strips 4241-4245 (13th April to 17th April, 2020)
« Reply #86 on: 17 Apr 2020, 02:22 »

Really, Jeph? Really?

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Re: WCDT strips 4241-4245 (13th April to 17th April, 2020)
« Reply #87 on: 17 Apr 2020, 02:36 »

I mean  telling people they cant leave because you want to pet their dog after lecturing them probably also makes people uncomfortable.
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Re: WCDT strips 4241-4245 (13th April to 17th April, 2020)
« Reply #88 on: 17 Apr 2020, 02:40 »

Do people still ask for phone numbers these days? Seems archaic.

Plenty of social media apps use a phone number as a possible way to identify people.
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Re: WCDT strips 4241-4245 (13th April to 17th April, 2020)
« Reply #89 on: 17 Apr 2020, 04:16 »

Man wouldn't it be great if it were possible to have the dating experience without anyone having to be uncomfortable at any point?

I think asking is always okay as long as you're prepared for the answer to be no, and you know 'no' means 'no'. Dating is super hard. Meeting people is super hard. You have to make yourself super vulnerable to rejection, which sucks too.
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« Reply #90 on: 17 Apr 2020, 06:02 »

I don't care what the rules are. If a stranger lectured me in public like that (A person of Brun's age no less--how old is she 20? 21?) I would LOSE MY SHIT.
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Re: WCDT strips 4241-4245 (13th April to 17th April, 2020)
« Reply #91 on: 17 Apr 2020, 06:28 »

Brun's lecture resonates with me a whole lot, too many people don't concern themselves with what consequences their actions might have.

And then there's the folks that only think of the immediate/short-term consequences that benefit them and they couldn't care less about everyone else.
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Re: WCDT strips 4241-4245 (13th April to 17th April, 2020)
« Reply #92 on: 17 Apr 2020, 12:42 »

Two questions:

1. Does random dude with Rupert realize Millefeuille and Brun are on a date?
2. Do Millefeuille and Brun realize they're on a date?
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« Reply #93 on: 17 Apr 2020, 14:33 »

Two questions:

1. Does random dude with Rupert realize Millefeuille and Brun are on a date?
2. Do Millefeuille and Brun realize they're on a date?

1. Probably not.  He doesn't strike me as too bright or observant; also, he's probably quite heteronormative.
2. Millefeuille, 65% chance of yes.  Brun, 97% chance of no.  (Source for Brun: my personal experience.  It takes me 2-3 months of interacting with someone before I realize that we're dating.  That's why I gave it up circa 2000.)

Please note Brun's different reactions to George (the name I'm giving to Rupert's owner until we have one) asking for her phone number and Clinton giving her his digits.
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Re: WCDT strips 4241-4245 (13th April to 17th April, 2020)
« Reply #94 on: 17 Apr 2020, 15:48 »

If no-one realises it's a date, is it really a date?

He doesn't strike me as too bright or observant

Don't be so harsh on him, he doesn't have access to the Official Shipping Channel.
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Re: WCDT strips 4241-4245 (13th April to 17th April, 2020)
« Reply #95 on: 17 Apr 2020, 20:23 »

Man wouldn't it be great if it were possible to have the dating experience without anyone having to be uncomfortable at any point?

I think asking is always okay as long as you're prepared for the answer to be no, and you know 'no' means 'no'. Dating is super hard. Meeting people is super hard. You have to make yourself super vulnerable to rejection, which sucks too.

Yeah, where the extreme discomfort comes in is when the asker refuses to HEAR the no. My guard is immediately up now whenever a man asks me this after having certain experiences of that type. It shouldn't be such a huge relief when a guy doesn't try to browbeat you into giving him your personal information, but here we are.
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Re: WCDT strips 4241-4245 (13th April to 17th April, 2020)
« Reply #96 on: 17 Apr 2020, 23:00 »

Regular conversation with my wife:
"Thank you for saving me from dating."
"No, thank you for saving me from dating."
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Re: WCDT strips 4241-4245 (13th April to 17th April, 2020)
« Reply #97 on: 19 Apr 2020, 07:45 »

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Really, Jeph? Really?

"Don't ask Strangers for their number! It could...gasp!...make them feel uncomfortable! And the last thing we can expect grown, adult people to deal with is...feeling uncomfortable!"

Thank you!  I almost never post to these forums, but Jeph's declaration against asking for phone numbers is just awful enough to draw me in.  You should definitely be willing to take no for an answer (graciously), but the idea that we can't pursue or even inquire about people we find interesting is just insanity.  If bonds are to be built, someone has to take a chance, or we all just end up huddling in our own caves alone.

If you're one of those people who takes a lot of social cues from QC, please hear me when I say this: Jeph sometimes really gets wound around his own axle about his own hangups, which are often highly skewed from the standards of normal social interaction.  On this issue, he is just plain wrong. If you like someone, talk to them.  If you want to see them again, say so, ask for their number, ask them out.  Be kind, be gentle, be gracious in rejection, but for the love of god don't isolate yourself even further in this already isolated world because you're terrified that you might for ten seconds make someone slightly uncomfortable.
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Re: WCDT strips 4241-4245 (13th April to 17th April, 2020)
« Reply #98 on: 19 Apr 2020, 08:37 »

Thank you!  I almost never post to these forums, but Jeph's declaration against asking for phone numbers is just awful enough to draw me in.  You should definitely be willing to take no for an answer (graciously), but the idea that we can't pursue or even inquire about people we find interesting is just insanity.  If bonds are to be built, someone has to take a chance, or we all just end up huddling in our own caves alone.

I don't necessarily agree with Jeph either, but I think you're overreacting.

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If you're one of those people who takes a lot of social cues from QC, please hear me when I say this: Jeph sometimes really gets wound around his own axle about his own hangups, which are often highly skewed from the standards of normal social interaction.  On this issue, he is just plain wrong.

There is no such thing as 'wrong' in this particular arena. Jeph said that in his opinion, he doesn't think you should ask someone for their phone number. By its very nature it's impossible for him to be wrong.

Measuring against 'normality,' as if normal is a concept that exists or there is an agreed consensus, is perfectly fine unless you're trying to claim this amorphous 'normal' concept as the only correct way to exist.

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If you like someone, talk to them.  If you want to see them again, say so, ask for their number, ask them out.  Be kind, be gentle, be gracious in rejection, but for the love of god don't isolate yourself even further in this already isolated world because you're terrified that you might for ten seconds make someone slightly uncomfortable.

I don't agree with this as blanket advice.

As I said, I do not agree with Jeph that asking someone for their phone number is something that should be never done. However, what is rarely discussed in these scenarios is the nuance involved. I don't think you should always talk to someone if you like them. There are contexts here. Somebody might have just broken up with another person and not be interested in a relationship. They might have trauma. If you don't know them that well, you might have no idea what is going on in their lives that make that conversation difficult before you start it, with them unprepared.

However, at the same time, the common response to this kind of feedback is 'so I guess nobody can ever talk to anybody ever!' as if there are no social cues whatsoever, and that you can't learn to read body language. I'm not saying there is a universal body language for 'come and get it,' but I think body language that reads 'please leave me alone' is pretty easy to pick up on if you bother even slightly with it. This is one of the most malignant aspects at the centre of pickup artistry - that it focuses on trying to break down barriers that a woman puts up and override them rather than simply trying to read whether they're interested. I'm autistic, it should be harder for me to do this than anybody else.

And it's not like that's the only kind of context. Is a woman walking in the park in casual clothes with a friend really cruising for ass?
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Re: WCDT strips 4241-4245 (13th April to 17th April, 2020)
« Reply #99 on: 19 Apr 2020, 08:47 »

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Really, Jeph? Really?

"Don't ask Strangers for their number! It could...gasp!...make them feel uncomfortable! And the last thing we can expect grown, adult people to deal with is...feeling uncomfortable!"

Thank you!  I almost never post to these forums, but Jeph's declaration against asking for phone numbers is just awful enough to draw me in.  You should definitely be willing to take no for an answer (graciously), but the idea that we can't pursue or even inquire about people we find interesting is just insanity.  If bonds are to be built, someone has to take a chance, or we all just end up huddling in our own caves alone.

If you're one of those people who takes a lot of social cues from QC, please hear me when I say this: Jeph sometimes really gets wound around his own axle about his own hangups, which are often highly skewed from the standards of normal social interaction.  On this issue, he is just plain wrong. If you like someone, talk to them.  If you want to see them again, say so, ask for their number, ask them out.  Be kind, be gentle, be gracious in rejection, but for the love of god don't isolate yourself even further in this already isolated world because you're terrified that you might for ten seconds make someone slightly uncomfortable.

Spoken like someone who has never had a dude threaten you because you said no to him.

Asking for them number of someone you just met, especially one you have barely interacted with (like this instance) is rude and presumptuous.

Just mho.
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