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What's your favorite piece of Back to the Future media?

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Obviously I'm not including the game for the original NES. That was hot garbage from what I understand. The Telltale Games game wasn't bad and the Japan-exclusive Super Famicom game looks like a blast.
I figured there'd be comics, but there's a few different runs. So pick your poison there.

EDIT: *derp* I know I'm dating myself here, but screw it. I always looked forward to the cartoon on Saturday mornings while it ran.
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Re: WCDT strips 4281 to 4285 (8th to 12th June 2020)
« Reply #1 on: 07 Jun 2020, 16:18 »

I liked the first and third movie, not #2. Was too dark. Can't remember if I saw the cartoon...

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« Reply #2 on: 07 Jun 2020, 18:36 »

Comic's up.

Bubbles does not feel ready to Meet The Parent.
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Re: WCDT strips 4281 to 4285 (8th to 12th June 2020)
« Reply #3 on: 07 Jun 2020, 18:47 »

Does anyone ever?
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Re: WCDT strips 4281 to 4285 (8th to 12th June 2020)
« Reply #4 on: 07 Jun 2020, 18:57 »

Bubbles, we're going to have to ask you to stop being too perfect for this world. You're going to embarrass everyone else.
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« Reply #5 on: 07 Jun 2020, 19:07 »

Hopefully this doesn't go pear-shaped - "No grand-children" may be a big thing here  :-\
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« Reply #6 on: 07 Jun 2020, 20:02 »

Bubbles, we're going to have to ask you to stop being too perfect for this world. You're going to embarrass everyone else.

She would be mortified by this.
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Re: WCDT strips 4281 to 4285 (8th to 12th June 2020)
« Reply #7 on: 07 Jun 2020, 20:16 »

I seem to remember Mrs. Whitaker had resigned herself to no grandchildren (WE ARE WORKING ON THAT TECHNOLOGY).

I wonder if there's any parallel to parents for Bubbles.
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Re: WCDT strips 4281 to 4285 (8th to 12th June 2020)
« Reply #8 on: 07 Jun 2020, 20:39 »

One wonders if Jeph read last weeks comments on this idea... *lol*

I do hope her Mom takes it well.

It would be funny if she jumped right to "So when are you getting married?"   :-D :laugh:

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« Reply #9 on: 07 Jun 2020, 22:22 »

Hopefully this doesn't go pear-shaped - "No grand-children" may be a big thing here  :-\
Adoption is an option.

Tangentially related, I saw a post the other day arguing that elves would jump a the chance to adopt orphan kids due to their low fertility rate instead of being snobs about it.
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« Reply #10 on: 07 Jun 2020, 22:32 »

Bring mom up to meet Bubbles.  Pass pintsize off as their adopted son.
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Re: WCDT strips 4281 to 4285 (8th to 12th June 2020)
« Reply #11 on: 07 Jun 2020, 23:11 »

It's panel 3 that makes me laugh. Bubbles was fine with this decision as a hypothetical aspiration. To actually introduce her to Mrs Whittaker? Now?!? Time for a minor panic attack and a frantic trawl through everything she knows about human aesthetics in an attempt to look 'presentable'! Remember, in her own way, Bubbles is as insecure as Faye is; this might turn out to be somewhat painful.

Bring mom up to meet Bubbles.  Pass pintsize off as their adopted son.

Yeah, no. They want to convince Mrs W that Faye knows what she's doing, not that she's had a complete mental breakdown!
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Re: WCDT strips 4281 to 4285 (8th to 12th June 2020)
« Reply #12 on: 08 Jun 2020, 00:15 »

Heh, that reminds me of my wife on our first video call to my parents, when I'd just proposed to her.  :-D It got worse, when they didn't answer, and so we went to get supper. When they called back, she was just midway into a bite of chicken.
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Re: WCDT strips 4281 to 4285 (8th to 12th June 2020)
« Reply #13 on: 08 Jun 2020, 01:09 »

My wife's parents already knew me, we were in high school together. This did not work in our favour when we told them about us.
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« Reply #14 on: 08 Jun 2020, 02:59 »

With regard to the poll, the rule of thumb is always that a sequel is 1/n the quality of the first movie in the franchise where 'n' is the number of the sequel. Most people agree that The Empire Strikes Back is the exception that proves the rule whilst the Police Academy franchise is practically a case study in why this rule is true.

Applying this to the Back to the Future franchise, like a lot of others, I feel that BttF part II was a very awkward-feeling picture. The writers had to include some aspect of the 'something has to be done about your kids' hook from the original movie in the story but it's clear that their heart wasn't really into it. They were really focussed on Marty's coming-of-age storyline, focussed more on controlling his pride and understanding the risks inherent in reacting too quickly and too violently to accusations of cowardice. Because of that, the story with Marty Jnr in BttF part II has always had the feeling of something tacked onto the main plot about Biff's temporal meddling as very much a minor B-plot.

Part III is basically just a fairly standard 'kid from the sticks learns the real meaning of courage' cowboy story with the time travel aspect tacked on. That doesn't make it bad, it just doesn't really feel like a part of the Back to the Future franchise at all, beyond the Chekhov's Gun in Part II. If the Delorean Time Machine had been destroyed upon arrival in 1885 and Doc had then revealed that he was already about 95% of the way to finishing the Jules Verne machine with one or two more time leaps in the film, then it would have felt more part of the continuing story arc.
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Re: WCDT strips 4281 to 4285 (8th to 12th June 2020)
« Reply #15 on: 08 Jun 2020, 05:06 »

*Ahem* SW:TESB is one of two exceptions to the rule. (ST:TWOK)
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« Reply #16 on: 08 Jun 2020, 05:37 »

One could bring up the Mad Max franchise as another exception.
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« Reply #17 on: 08 Jun 2020, 06:18 »

One could, and this one will. Mad Max: Fury Road alone is an extraordinary film.

Also, *cough* Godfather part II, which I believe has been mentioned elsewhere on these forums. Toy Story 2? Dark Knight? Terminator II? I mean, come on.

Don't get me started on the abuse of the expression "exception that proves the rule." *grumble grumble*
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« Reply #18 on: 08 Jun 2020, 07:20 »

What about Telltale's Back to the Future games?
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« Reply #19 on: 08 Jun 2020, 07:27 »

I thought the Telltale games told an interesting story, that would be good as a cartoon or something like that, but I think it didn't really work as a game, but that may just be my personal opinion. I would have preferred a more open game environment than what that game had, as it basically has you go from one puzzle to another without any choice of which path to take. Especially since it's a game about time travel, I think a more open world would have been a better fit, since the choices you make in the past can have unexpected effects.
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« Reply #20 on: 08 Jun 2020, 08:15 »

One could, and this one will. Mad Max: Fury Road alone is an extraordinary film.

Also, *cough* Godfather part II, which I believe has been mentioned elsewhere on these forums. Toy Story 2? Dark Knight? Terminator II? I mean, come on.
I actually hated T2: Judgment Day and consider the original film far superior.
T2 is a bunch of annoying (preteen JC) and hokey (Schwartzenegger's "Tin Man with heart) shit, bookended by a pair of admittedly spectacular action sequences.
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« Reply #21 on: 08 Jun 2020, 08:48 »

Go with a tux, Bubs. That will convince Mom you're serious.
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« Reply #22 on: 08 Jun 2020, 10:01 »

As long as Bubbles doesn’t put her armor back on, it’s all good.
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Re: WCDT strips 4281 to 4285 (8th to 12th June 2020)
« Reply #23 on: 08 Jun 2020, 12:00 »

One could, and this one will. Mad Max: Fury Road alone is an extraordinary film.

Also, *cough* Godfather part II, which I believe has been mentioned elsewhere on these forums. Toy Story 2? Dark Knight? Terminator II? I mean, come on.

Don't get me started on the abuse of the expression "exception that proves the rule." *grumble grumble*

I'm not sure if I would consider Fury Road part of the original franchise, it's more of a reboot, no? ANyway, it still holds as Mad Max 2 is superior to I, i.m.h.o.
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« Reply #24 on: 08 Jun 2020, 12:03 »


I actually hated T2: Judgment Day and consider the original film far superior.
T2 is a bunch of annoying (preteen JC) and hokey (Schwartzenegger's "Tin Man with heart) shit, bookended by a pair of admittedly spectacular action sequences.

The only thing good about T2 was Sarah Conner, and she is better in Dark Fate, which is the best out of all of them by a light year.
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« Reply #25 on: 08 Jun 2020, 12:08 »

I would argue that none of the Mad Max films are sequels in a narrative sense. There is no real continuity between them, other than Max. I consider them all to be seperate stories being told about some legendary wasteland mythical figure. I am pretty sure the creator has said something similar.
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« Reply #26 on: 08 Jun 2020, 12:56 »

I would argue that none of the Mad Max films are sequels in a narrative sense. There is no real continuity between them, other than Max. I consider them all to be seperate stories being told about some legendary wasteland mythical figure. I am pretty sure the creator has said something similar.

I agree. It's actively impossible for all the movies to follow the same character in a realistic way. The timeline doesn't add up however you try to interpret it, between any of the movies really (except *maybe* Road Warrior and Beyond the Thunderdome, but then, there's nothing connecting the stories of those two).
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Re: WCDT strips 4281 to 4285 (8th to 12th June 2020)
« Reply #27 on: 08 Jun 2020, 15:16 »

Two more you might argue are exceptions: Superman II and Kill Bill, Volume II (if you consider that a sequel).

Anyone remember Bubbles making that expression previously?  I thought it was in the strips just prior to Roko being crushed, but it was Roko making the expression, not Bubbles.
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« Reply #28 on: 08 Jun 2020, 19:01 »

Comic up.

Mrs. Whitaker, if you want dependable ...
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« Reply #29 on: 08 Jun 2020, 19:11 »

Oooooh dear. Poor Bubbles.

She's going "I think COMBAT was actually more frightening than this."

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« Reply #30 on: 08 Jun 2020, 19:55 »

That is the stiff posture and carefully blank expression of someone lined up for inspection.
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« Reply #31 on: 08 Jun 2020, 20:46 »

God I feel old, it never occurred to me that Faye's mom would actually be able to see Bubbles on a phone call.

I forgot we live in the future.
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« Reply #32 on: 08 Jun 2020, 21:00 »

Welp, here's hoping Faye prepped Bubbles for the worst.
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« Reply #33 on: 08 Jun 2020, 21:03 »

Oooooh dear. Poor Bubbles.

She's going "I think COMBAT was actually more frightening than this."

I think you meant "This is more frightening than combat."



So, this is going to be very pleasant or an absolute fustercluck. Depends on if Mrs Whitaker has mellowed out since we last saw her.
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« Reply #34 on: 08 Jun 2020, 21:13 »

This better not turn into a "shitting on Angus" session. That was one hundred percent Faye's fault.
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« Reply #35 on: 08 Jun 2020, 21:20 »

One could bring up the Mad Max franchise as another exception.
Does Mad Max really count though?
I agree with the notion those films are more an experiment in modern myth making than one cohesive narrative.
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« Reply #36 on: 08 Jun 2020, 21:44 »

Hopefully this doesn't go pear-shaped - "No grand-children" may be a big thing here  :-\
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« Reply #37 on: 08 Jun 2020, 22:35 »

Can confirm, from a recent event within my circle of friends.

Also, I'm happy to accept that Mad Max wasn't the best example, but if you can't come up with a list of good sequels, you're really not trying. Empire Strikes Back is definitely not the exception.
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« Reply #38 on: 08 Jun 2020, 23:13 »

Bubbles looks so tense, her AI core's about to melt down.
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« Reply #39 on: 08 Jun 2020, 23:15 »

Hopefully this doesn't go pear-shaped - "No grand-children" may be a big thing here  :-\
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« Reply #40 on: 08 Jun 2020, 23:16 »

Have we ever seen Bubbs wearing make-up before?
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« Reply #41 on: 08 Jun 2020, 23:26 »

Well, this is beginning to show warning signs of it going bad. We'll have to see, I suppose.

Firstly, I suppose it was inevitable that Mrs W would know what this call was about fairly quickly. After all, she's probably had variations on this conversation with Faye and Amanda both and probably knows all the warning signs! Meanwhile, the expression on Bubbles' face tells me that she's desperately trying to find her happy place and is finding that doing so is difficult without the right blend of tea!

Have we ever seen Bubbs wearing make-up before?

Yes, when she went to a party with Faye a looong way back. She rocks indigo lipstick with her derma pigmentation. Although an armoured combat robot wearing lipstick is an... odd sight. She nearly shook Marten out of his skin at the front door if I remember and later came within a few inches of punching a hole in Faye's head.

This better not turn into a "shitting on Angus" session. That was one hundred percent Faye's fault.

I was going to let this slide but I can't. Angus had his own bits of the blame to bear in this one.
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« Reply #42 on: 09 Jun 2020, 02:00 »

Oh yeah, this is going to go just as well as I expected... (cringe)
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« Reply #43 on: 09 Jun 2020, 02:24 »

I want a Fury Road sequel where Furiosa goes to Sydney.
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« Reply #44 on: 09 Jun 2020, 04:36 »

Having grown up in a southern family, I cannot believe for one second that Amanda and their Mom have not thoroughly and repeatedly discussed Faye's romantic life in exhaustive detail. Maybe if Amanda didn't want to "out" Faye. But it's hard to imagine this will be a complete surprise to Mom.

Then again, Faye and Amanda talk on the phone regularly but somehow fail to communicate important life events. And we haven't witnessed Amanda and Evie's delighted squees. Does Amanda know?
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« Reply #45 on: 09 Jun 2020, 07:51 »

For once I cannot wait for tomorrows comic.

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« Reply #46 on: 09 Jun 2020, 08:23 »

Faye’s mom has already dealt with one daughter being a lesbian. And with that same daughter being in an interracial relationship, which for some older Southerners is a big deal. (Thinking of my dad here - hard to say which one of these things would have been a bigger problem for him if he’d ever had to deal with them.) She appears to have come to terms with those things. So the only new element here is Bubbles being a robot.

The thing is, once you have managed to overcome one of your prejudices, it becomes much easier to overcome the others. Faye’s mom has come this far - what’s one more step? And pretty much everyone who has gotten to know Bubbles has extreme respect for her.

So the next couple of strips may be bumpy, but I will be surprised if Faye’s mom isn’t a Bubbles fan by the end of the week. (Next week at the latest.)
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« Reply #47 on: 09 Jun 2020, 09:02 »

Is Bubbles wearing lipstick? Is it bad that I think it makes her look more ‘robotic’ if that’s the right term? Like teetering on the cliff edge of the Uncanny Valley.
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Re: WCDT strips 4281 to 4285 (8th to 12th June 2020)
« Reply #48 on: 09 Jun 2020, 10:39 »

Bubbles has good manners and being a veteran going for her, and Mrs. Whitaker may be perceptive enough to see that Bubble's loyalty is what Faye needs to be secure enough to be happy.
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Re: WCDT strips 4281 to 4285 (8th to 12th June 2020)
« Reply #49 on: 09 Jun 2020, 10:45 »

I am really curious also to see which way this goes.

Add some conflict to QC? or another "Alls well that ends well."
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