Jeph Jacques's comics discussion forums

  • 16 May 2021, 05:41
  • Welcome, Guest
Please login or register.

Login with username, password and session length
Advanced search  

Poll

Best date format for the WCDT titles?

4th - 8th, January 2021
4th to 8th of January, 2021
January 4th to 8th, 2021
Jan 4th - 8th, 2021
4th Jan - 8th Jan, 2021
2021 Jan 4th - Jan 8th
Jan 4th - Jan 8th, 2021
Jan 4 - 8, 2021
other [feel free to type it out]
I miss when it was the comic numbers that were in the parentheses.
Sven, drink more spathe ham.

Pages: 1 2 [3]   Go Down

Author Topic: WCDT 4431-4435 (4th-8th of January, 2021)  (Read 5489 times)

Perfectly Reasonable

  • 1-800-SCABIES
  • ****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 868
  • Be nice to everybody. So you're better than them.
Re: WCDT 4431-4435 (4th-8th of January, 2021)
« Reply #100 on: 07 Jan 2021, 11:46 »

...
All this aside, am I the only person who thinks that the model code for May's new chassis is 'XJ-10'?

Probably. I think this is the link you wanted:
https://teenagerobot.fandom.com/wiki/XJ-10
Logged
What would I do if I were smart?
I guess first I'd stop taking the stupid pills.

hedgie

Re: WCDT 4431-4435 (4th-8th of January, 2021)
« Reply #101 on: 07 Jan 2021, 13:50 »

It can be both isolated and lack privacy. Having someone constantly spying on your thoughts while also denying you all social interaction is entirely within the realm of possibility.

Seems like that was the whole idea behind the idea of the Panopticon.
Logged
"The highest treason in the USA is to say Americans are not loved, no matter where they are, no matter what they are doing there." -- Vonnegut

Oenone

  • Pneumatic ratchet pants
  • ***
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 357
Re: WCDT 4431-4435 (4th-8th of January, 2021)
« Reply #102 on: 07 Jan 2021, 18:25 »

Robot Jail does sound cruel and unusual, but how do you rehabilitate AI criminals? Rewrite them? Use human psychology on them?

And as cruel and unusual as Robot Jail might be, I can't find it in me to be sympathetic for May who committed her crime with the intent of becoming a war machine and doing god knows what.

We don’t know anything about May from before her time in jail, not even her name. I don’t think it’s fair to assume she’d do “god knows what” since she’s so far been incredibly honest with people, even if she’s been mean. Why would we assume she’d be a WORSE person before her trauma?

As for what you can do to them: given the incredible capabilities of monitoring software, the perception and personality altering drunk app Millefeulle used, and how May’s shitty chassis impacted her life, I’m sure there’s some combo of embodiment, surveillance, and code that would be a better alternative to an infinitely isolating lack of privacy.
« Last Edit: 07 Jan 2021, 18:43 by Oenone »
Logged

Is it cold in here?

  • Administrator
  • Awakened
  • ******
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 23,552
  • He/him/his pronouns
Re: WCDT 4431-4435 (4th-8th of January, 2021)
« Reply #103 on: 07 Jan 2021, 18:54 »

Those who whine about jails and "cruel and unusual punishment" I have found 95% of the time have A. been arrested for a crime that they were actually guilty of B. were upset because they got caught and C. did it willingly and knowingly with the penalties known ahead of time.

You are welcome to join the "Prison policies and conditions" thread in DISCUSS which I started.

My involvement with the justice system consists of a speeding ticket in 2019. I was guilty and paid it.

My knowledge of it comes from extensive reading from sources including correctional officers, investigative reporters, former inmates, and academics. The system is broken fundamentally on any standard that involves the common good. My prison pen pal went in determined to better herself. She found two vocational program offerings for 300 prisoners.
Logged
"Non-compliance is a social skill"

shanejayell

  • Bling blang blong blung
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 1,093
    • Church of Yuri
Re: WCDT 4431-4435 (4th-8th of January, 2021)
« Reply #104 on: 07 Jan 2021, 19:06 »

New strip up.

That, May, and Faye and Bubbles are barely breaking even at this point. Or possibly not breaking even...

Sorflakne

  • Duck attack survivor
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 1,682
Re: WCDT 4431-4435 (4th-8th of January, 2021)
« Reply #105 on: 07 Jan 2021, 19:16 »

That was my first thought.  Could they afford to take on May even at minimum wage?
Logged
If you want to see what God and Satan look like, look in the mirror.

Gnabberwocky

  • Lord of Whales
  • Global Mod
  • The German Chancellory building
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 499
  • I WILL be your friend.
Re: WCDT 4431-4435 (4th-8th of January, 2021)
« Reply #106 on: 07 Jan 2021, 19:30 »

Previous comics have stated that they're making just enough to cover the workspace's rent, but not enough for utilities or the apartment rent. I think hiring an employee for menial tasks would sink them for good.
Logged
Beware the Gnabberwock, my son!

Gyrre

  • GET ON THE NIGHT TRAIN
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 2,629
Re: WCDT 4431-4435 (4th-8th of January, 2021)
« Reply #107 on: 07 Jan 2021, 20:30 »

It can be both isolated and lack privacy. Having someone constantly spying on your thoughts while also denying you all social interaction is entirely within the realm of possibility.

Seems like that was the whole idea behind the idea of the Panopticon.

FaceBook replaced DARPA's scrapped LifeLog project.
Logged
Quote
a real-ass gaddam sword
Quote
"Broken swords and dragon bones scattered on the way back home."

Too stubborn to die, just like the rest of my family.

TheEvilDog

  • Guest
Re: WCDT 4431-4435 (4th-8th of January, 2021)
« Reply #108 on: 07 Jan 2021, 20:42 »

If I remember correctly, Sam is bringing in the lion's share of the money that's coming into the business.

I'm going to be frank. I never thought that Faye and Bubbles would really succeed with the shop. It just seemed too niche for the time. Lets just say that a chassis gets damaged, unless its (relatively) ridiculously old or the warranty is incredibly short (unlikely given their cost), it just seems more likely that a store that sold chassis would have their own on-site repair team (as proven when Roko took May in to get assessed). So, why go to Union Robotics when you can just go to the shop you got the chassis from and ask them to fix it. Or possibly replace it. There's just no real market for a repair shop that specialises in after market repair. Its like creating a workshop to restore classic cars, but the only cars available are all last year's registrations.

Unless some miracle, or more appropriately, some deus ex machina happens, I just can't see Faye and Bubbles making a living from the business.
Logged

Mordhaus

  • Obscure cultural reference
  • **
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 147
Re: WCDT 4431-4435 (4th-8th of January, 2021)
« Reply #109 on: 07 Jan 2021, 21:06 »

I always figured May was working as a condition of her parole. One of the reasons I figured she was working at a simple gas station, since other more desirable jobs see her as a felon.
Logged

Mordhaus

  • Obscure cultural reference
  • **
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 147
Re: WCDT 4431-4435 (4th-8th of January, 2021)
« Reply #110 on: 07 Jan 2021, 21:08 »

Additionally, if they could persuade Sam to do something more permanent like etching the tattoo into the chassis, then Faye and Bubbles could offer a 'removal' service.
Logged

TheEvilDog

  • Guest
Re: WCDT 4431-4435 (4th-8th of January, 2021)
« Reply #111 on: 07 Jan 2021, 21:14 »

Additionally, if they could persuade Sam to do something more permanent like etching the tattoo into the chassis, then Faye and Bubbles could offer a 'removal' service.

There's already a removal method, its called warm water and a sponge.

The whole point of Sam's artistry is that the AI who come in don't want permanent, they want something temporary, something transient. After all, their bodies don't really mean that much to them compared to a human wanting a tattoo.
Logged

MrNumbers

  • Cthulhu f'tagn
  • ****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 509
  • A hoot
Re: WCDT 4431-4435 (4th-8th of January, 2021)
« Reply #112 on: 07 Jan 2021, 21:34 »

There's tonnes of reasons I can think of to need Union Robotics - AIs use their bodies as humans do, I can think of no end of ways they could violate their warranties.
Logged
oh god

Is it cold in here?

  • Administrator
  • Awakened
  • ******
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 23,552
  • He/him/his pronouns
Re: WCDT 4431-4435 (4th-8th of January, 2021)
« Reply #113 on: 07 Jan 2021, 22:36 »

I felt the urge to argue with May about calling Bubbles Faye's "girlfriend".

They've said "forever", so fiancee is closer.

Since they've exchanged vows and live together it could be considered a common-law marriage.
Logged
"Non-compliance is a social skill"

Gyrre

  • GET ON THE NIGHT TRAIN
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 2,629
Re: WCDT 4431-4435 (4th-8th of January, 2021)
« Reply #114 on: 07 Jan 2021, 23:26 »

I felt the urge to argue with May about calling Bubbles Faye's "girlfriend".

They've said "forever", so fiancee is closer.

Since they've exchanged vows and live together it could be considered a common-law marriage.
If memory serves, that additionally requires cohabiting for at least two years. Where are we with that in in-comic time?

I always figured May was working as a condition of her parole. One of the reasons I figured she was working at a simple gas station, since other more desirable jobs see her as a felon.

The ungoing societal punishment which is why America's recidivism rate is so high.
Logged
Quote
a real-ass gaddam sword
Quote
"Broken swords and dragon bones scattered on the way back home."

Too stubborn to die, just like the rest of my family.

BenRG

  • coprophage
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 7,445
  • Boldly Going From The Back Seat!
Re: WCDT 4431-4435 (4th-8th of January, 2021)
« Reply #115 on: 07 Jan 2021, 23:33 »

Okay, I think that we're getting a long-term arc clue or two here.

Faye's resentment towards May and Sam is potentially quite toxic and she's going to have to face up to that at some point. It may be for different reasons but, ultimately, it's about selfish things and things that are only marginally her business (Sam being a local pop culture trend for however long it takes until the Next Big Thing arrives) and May is just trying to be the girl's friend. However, it all links to some of Faye's worse personal characteristics. She can be immature, petty and possessive and these things can cause lots of problems.

The other arc is that I suspect Faye is going to make it her 'project' to help May get fully on her feet. Initially, the motive is selfish ("She'll stop hanging around here") but , in time, she'll genuinely want the girl to escape the trap she got it by being an idiot, something she now deeply regrets.

I felt the urge to argue with May about calling Bubbles Faye's "girlfriend".

They've said "forever", so fiancee is closer.

Since they've exchanged vows and live together it could be considered a common-law marriage.

If memory serves, that additionally requires cohabiting for at least two years. Where are we with that in in-comic time?

Wait, there's a time-limit now? Not just a formal declaration of intent? Since when?

FWIW, Faye and Bubbles have only ever used the term 'girlfriend', so I consider that the right description to use.
Logged
~~~~

They call me BenRG... But I don't know why!

mvdwege

  • Plantmonster
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 28
Re: WCDT 4431-4435 (4th-8th of January, 2021)
« Reply #116 on: 08 Jan 2021, 00:18 »

There's just no real market for a repair shop that specialises in after market repair.

Note that they do custom work as well, like Millefeuille's new buttocks. Which ties in nicely with them also hosting Sam's business.
Logged

jwhouk

  • Awakened
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 10,995
  • The Valley of the Sun
Re: WCDT 4431-4435 (4th-8th of January, 2021)
« Reply #117 on: 08 Jan 2021, 03:33 »

My knowledge of it comes from extensive reading from sources including correctional officers....

Some of them even post in this thread.

Logged
"Character is what you are in the Dark." - D.L. Moody
There is no joke that can be made online without someone being offended by it.
Life's too short to be ashamed of how you were born.
Just another Joe like 46

zisraelsen

  • Curry sauce
  • ***
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 274
Re: WCDT 4431-4435 (4th-8th of January, 2021)
« Reply #118 on: 08 Jan 2021, 05:07 »

There's just no real market for a repair shop that specialises in after market repair. Its like creating a workshop to restore classic cars, but the only cars available are all last year's registrations.

Theres a market for aftermarket repair for automobiles in real life. A lot of shops specialize in a single type of repair, like an auto body shop or an a/c shop, or a single type of vehicle, for example theres a mechanic near me that specializes in European import repair (Mercedes, BMW, etc.) Hell, a shop like Subieworks specializes in repair and modification for a single brand of car, and I'd sooner go to them for something like a transmission rebuild than the dealer, because the dealer shop is going to tell me that my car has been out of warranty for ten years and then tell me they cant rebuild the thing, only replace it, and it'll cost me $5000 instead of $1500.

That was more than I needed to type; I guess my point is that most people can't afford to always have a car with a warranty and there's no reason to assume AI chassis would be different. That's all ignoring the modification scene, the desire for which would be even higher if we're talking about people's physical bodies rather than cars. There's also the cases of draconian warranty terms, like Roko turning off Whoopsieguard (tm) voiding her warranty.
Logged
Zack is easier to type than Zisraelsen, so

mattcoz

  • Not quite a lurker
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 7
Re: WCDT 4431-4435 (4th-8th of January, 2021)
« Reply #119 on: 08 Jan 2021, 10:09 »

Quote
I mean, she could do that to Faye's too.
I figure it would be more like a watermelon than a soda can.
Logged

Gnabberwocky

  • Lord of Whales
  • Global Mod
  • The German Chancellory building
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 499
  • I WILL be your friend.
Re: WCDT 4431-4435 (4th-8th of January, 2021)
« Reply #120 on: 08 Jan 2021, 10:36 »

Thank you very much for the permanent feeling of discomfort, as well as the new recurring nightmare. How can I thank you enough?
Logged
Beware the Gnabberwock, my son!

Mr_Rose

  • Duck attack survivor
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 1,687
  • Head Canon arms dealer
Re: WCDT 4431-4435 (4th-8th of January, 2021)
« Reply #121 on: 08 Jan 2021, 10:37 »

Thank you very much for the permanent feeling of discomfort, as well as the new recurring nightmare. How can I thank you enough?
Take them to see Scanners in the cinema, with remastered digital surround sound?
Logged
"I have been asked, 'Pray, Mr. Babbage, if you put into the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am not able rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such a question." - Charles Babbage

sitnspin

  • Lovecraftian nightmare
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 2,962
  • Amoral lust machine
Re: WCDT 4431-4435 (4th-8th of January, 2021)
« Reply #122 on: 08 Jan 2021, 10:42 »

(click to show/hide)
Logged
I'm a simple girl, all I want from life is to drink the blood of my enemies from their bleached hollowed skulls.
@syleegrrl

zisraelsen

  • Curry sauce
  • ***
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 274
Re: WCDT 4431-4435 (4th-8th of January, 2021)
« Reply #123 on: 08 Jan 2021, 10:55 »

Thank you for spoilering that. I clicked it anyway and then regretted it, but
Logged
Zack is easier to type than Zisraelsen, so

sitnspin

  • Lovecraftian nightmare
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 2,962
  • Amoral lust machine
Re: WCDT 4431-4435 (4th-8th of January, 2021)
« Reply #124 on: 08 Jan 2021, 11:49 »

"Scanners" is awesome schlock 80 horror. Love me some Cronenberg.
Logged
I'm a simple girl, all I want from life is to drink the blood of my enemies from their bleached hollowed skulls.
@syleegrrl

Mr_Rose

  • Duck attack survivor
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 1,687
  • Head Canon arms dealer
Re: WCDT 4431-4435 (4th-8th of January, 2021)
« Reply #125 on: 08 Jan 2021, 12:16 »

I love practical FX. You just don’t get the same (literally) visceral feel with CGI meat.
Logged
"I have been asked, 'Pray, Mr. Babbage, if you put into the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am not able rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such a question." - Charles Babbage

Wingy

  • Psychopath in a hockey mask
  • ****
  • Online Online
  • Posts: 620
  • Is my cape on right?
Re: WCDT 4431-4435 (4th-8th of January, 2021)
« Reply #126 on: 08 Jan 2021, 13:28 »

Faye's resentment towards May and Sam is potentially quite toxic and she's going to have to face up to that at some point. It may be for different reasons but, ultimately, it's about selfish things and things that are only marginally her business (Sam being a local pop culture trend for however long it takes until the Next Big Thing arrives) and May is just trying to be the girl's friend. However, it all links to some of Faye's worse personal characteristics. She can be immature, petty and possessive and these things can cause lots of problems.
I expect Bubbles will eventually figure out that Faye's attitude is driving away customers.  Then there will be "The Talk".
Logged
This space intentionally left almost blank.

Oenone

  • Pneumatic ratchet pants
  • ***
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 357
Re: WCDT 4431-4435 (4th-8th of January, 2021)
« Reply #127 on: 09 Jan 2021, 06:54 »

God, how many “The Talk” moments will Faye have? It’s been like 2 so far.
Logged

stayctee

  • Not quite a lurker
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 18
Re: WCDT 4431-4435 (4th-8th of January, 2021)
« Reply #128 on: 09 Jan 2021, 09:23 »

Ah yes.

US americans and dates.

I've literally seen places in which people used both M/D/Y and D/M/Y. Good luck finding out what date was actually meant if D <= 12.

I dont understand it. Its so easy. Just use YYYY-MM-DD (the international format) and you'll be all set. I use that all the time.
Canada seems to have the worst of both worlds, where they use both MM/DD/YYYY and DD/MM/YYYY at the same time.

We also use Imperial and Metric. And yeah, it is confusing.
Logged
Pages: 1 2 [3]   Go Up