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Who will take Pintsize's place as the strip's new chaos gremlin?

May
- 8 (22.2%)
Melon
- 9 (25%)
Momo
- 0 (0%)
Faye
- 2 (5.6%)
Winslow
- 0 (0%)
Iris
- 0 (0%)
Sven is not a mooch
- 3 (8.3%)
Spathe ham
- 5 (13.9%)
other
- 9 (25%)

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WCDT June 28th - July 2nd (4556-4560)
« on: 27 Jun 2021, 18:38 »

No, Faye. BAD Faye! AIs are NOT property!

(is Faye becoming the new chaos gremlin?)
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Re: WCDT June 28th - July 2nd (4556-4560)
« Reply #1 on: 27 Jun 2021, 18:40 »

I'm impressed Faye can carry her like that. Even assuming a lot of light weight plastics, she can't be light....

Edit: Voted Other. Do we even NEED a chaos gremlin any more?
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Re: WCDT June 28th - July 2nd (4556-4560)
« Reply #2 on: 27 Jun 2021, 18:53 »

 :laugh: "She just wandered in! Can we keep her?!"
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« Reply #3 on: 27 Jun 2021, 18:57 »

Remember how the whole reason they got this apartment was because they wanted more space per person?
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Re: WCDT June 28th - July 2nd (4556-4560)
« Reply #4 on: 27 Jun 2021, 18:58 »

No, Faye. BAD Faye! AIs are NOT property!

I was just going to say that. Given how non-reactive she is, it appears her surprise from the earlier strip has rendered Beepatrice catatonic.

RE: The poll. The obvious candidate is Skullmaster, Master of Skulls.
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Re: WCDT June 28th - July 2nd (4556-4560)
« Reply #5 on: 27 Jun 2021, 19:33 »

I'm impressed Faye can carry her like that. Even assuming a lot of light weight plastics, she can't be light....

Edit: Voted Other. Do we even NEED a chaos gremlin any more?


Ditto. I don't think Pintsize needs a replacement.
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Re: WCDT June 28th - July 2nd (4556-4560)
« Reply #6 on: 27 Jun 2021, 19:40 »

Good thing Pintsize wasn't here to vote; He'd immediately make a "Marten's harem" joke.
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Re: WCDT June 28th - July 2nd (4556-4560)
« Reply #7 on: 27 Jun 2021, 20:52 »

Regarding the poll: "Other" - no reason why Pintsize can't be a new improved(?) Chaos Gremlin - taller, more dexterous...more trouble  :evil:
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« Reply #8 on: 27 Jun 2021, 23:20 »

Re: poll...depending on how you look at things, May is the go-to now for sarcasm, jokes, and insults from an AI while general odd, destructive, questionable antics that job has fallen to Melon.


Re: the strip. You have to love Beeps' expression as Faye carries her- it's the classic "what have I gotten myself into" look.
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Re: WCDT June 28th - July 2nd (4556-4560)
« Reply #9 on: 28 Jun 2021, 01:59 »

Good thing Pintsize wasn't here to vote; He'd immediately make a "Marten's harem" joke.
or Faye's Harem? There are a lot of robot ladies around.

"Faye, put her down you already have a robot girlfriend"
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« Reply #10 on: 28 Jun 2021, 02:44 »

Faye, while Beeps is precious in her own right, no.
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« Reply #11 on: 28 Jun 2021, 04:45 »

I'd make that trade in a flash.
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« Reply #12 on: 28 Jun 2021, 12:54 »

Melon could be a decent "Chaos Gremlin", her antics are more Neutral/Lawful, compared to Pintsize leaning much into the Chaotic quadrants.  Feels like she would be more like the original NetFlix Chaos Monkey just keeping everyone on their toes.
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« Reply #13 on: 28 Jun 2021, 13:12 »

I'm reasonably sure Pintsize remains the chaos gremlin.

He's just rebranding a bit.
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Re: WCDT June 28th - July 2nd (4556-4560)
« Reply #14 on: 28 Jun 2021, 18:39 »

New comic.

Would a 'psychic' AI just be able to hack into other's brians?
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Re: WCDT June 28th - July 2nd (4556-4560)
« Reply #15 on: 28 Jun 2021, 19:33 »

Hah! I'll have Faye know that my telepathy only works on AIs. I know this because we haven't invented true AI in this world yet. Hence, the complete silence.

Would a 'psychic' AI just be able to hack into other's brians?
Not unless it's a projecting telepath. Which is actually a harder problem than just listening in to other people's brains. You have to reach in and induce currents in their brains, in addition to detecting those currents.
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Re: WCDT June 28th - July 2nd (4556-4560)
« Reply #16 on: 28 Jun 2021, 19:42 »

I’m sure that the old Pintsize has probably been arrested for sniffing packets.
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« Reply #17 on: 28 Jun 2021, 20:27 »

'Ghosts' generally, or something more specific? I know the 'stone record' notion falls under the ghost category despite not involving spirits.

I’m sure that the old Pintsize has probably been arrested for sniffing packets.

Flippin zip! I'm too tired to be up right now. It took me way to long to parse that you meant data packets and not some sort of grocery item.

EDIT: I'm already going to bed.
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Re: WCDT June 28th - July 2nd (4556-4560)
« Reply #18 on: 28 Jun 2021, 20:37 »

You're not the only one! I read 'sniffing packets' and thought of drugs... And it's only 15:30 over here.
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« Reply #19 on: 28 Jun 2021, 20:38 »

Are 'ghosts' actually bodyless AIs projecting their minds back in time?  :-P

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« Reply #20 on: 28 Jun 2021, 23:40 »

That sounds like something Yay would do.
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« Reply #21 on: 29 Jun 2021, 00:27 »

Are 'ghosts' actually bodyless AIs projecting their minds back in time?  :-P

Or into poorly insulated modems á la Futurama?
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Re: WCDT June 28th - July 2nd (4556-4560)
« Reply #22 on: 29 Jun 2021, 00:32 »

CLaire...just shut up while you're behind. Just because you have a higher degree doesn't give you the right to force your views on others. Just because YOU don't believe in it doesn't give you the right to talk down to people who do. Unless they are forcing their views on you, STFU.

As for the strip: data can be intercepted and deciphered and since AI consciences can reside online it's no different than intercepting packets and putting together data. You'd have to be able to read code, but that's doable...from the mind? That might be stretching things but who knows with the way they're working with AIs in the QC Universe: it might be possible and done already for all we know.
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Re: WCDT June 28th - July 2nd (4556-4560)
« Reply #23 on: 29 Jun 2021, 00:33 »

Are 'ghosts' actually bodyless AIs projecting their minds back in time?  :-P

...that is scary in that it could be true. In the past it was gas causing hallucinations and people exaggerating claims out of fear or money reasons but nowadays that could be the truth!
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Re: WCDT June 28th - July 2nd (4556-4560)
« Reply #24 on: 29 Jun 2021, 07:09 »

Unless they are forcing their views on you, STFU.

That’s a pretty extreme overreaction.

Claire is not “behind,” and she is, in fact, completely correct.

I’ve never been fond of this idea that just because a person has irrational and/or superstitious beliefs, they get to shut down all discussion of that subject. Not all beliefs are equally valid, and not all beliefs are worthy of respect.

Take Flat Earthers, for example. Are we seriously supposed to STFU every time they mention the idea that the Earth is flat? Because asserting reality will offend them?

In this particular instance, it’s possible that Beeps might be offended that Claire pointed out that psychic powers are imaginary, but in context, it seems more likely that Beeps is just psychic-curious rather than a zealot on the subject. A little credulous, perhaps, but probably open to a simple explanation of why they’re not real.
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Re: WCDT June 28th - July 2nd (4556-4560)
« Reply #25 on: 29 Jun 2021, 07:11 »

I read 'sniffing packets' and thought of drugs...

I assumed that it was a joke, an intentional play on words conflating a technical term with drug use. We’re talking about Pintsize, after all.
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Re: WCDT June 28th - July 2nd (4556-4560)
« Reply #26 on: 29 Jun 2021, 07:49 »

Aaaaaand I don't like Claire.
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Re: WCDT June 28th - July 2nd (4556-4560)
« Reply #27 on: 29 Jun 2021, 08:13 »

I like Claire.   :lol:

I like her because she is literate and adheres to scientific thinking. And she doesn‘t restrain from calling other peoples beliefs bullshit when they actually are, just for the sake of missunderstood politeness and political correctness.

Go for it, Claire!   :claireface:
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Re: WCDT June 28th - July 2nd (4556-4560)
« Reply #28 on: 29 Jun 2021, 10:39 »

Notice that Claire didn't attack either Faye or Beeps personally; she just put it out there for everyone to hear and comprehend in their own fashion.  My observation of zealots is they won't hear it in the first place, and people who are just curious are likely to be wrestling with similar thoughts in the first place and in the second place will probably not pick up any intended implied insult.

Besides, it's more like the mental equivalent of watching an analog TV on a band with no station broadcasting: I believe the official term is "ant races" though many call it "snow".  That's if you can find an analog TV anymore...
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Re: WCDT June 28th - July 2nd (4556-4560)
« Reply #29 on: 29 Jun 2021, 11:18 »

Another vote for Claire.  Especially since her comment was not a flat declaration, but includes appropriate modifiers [considering assumptions seems unreasonable].   

I am skeptical, but acknowledge it is a large universe.  And we are just beginning to understand our little bubble of space/time, hard to quantify what kind of subtle nuances could exist out there under different energy regimes.   

Though until then, anything that might be there is drowned out in so much noise that practically it might as well not exist.  Please feel free to continue researching, a lot has been done by those whose contemporaries had pushed out.  But accept the limited funding / respect until there are some repeatable results. 
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Re: WCDT June 28th - July 2nd (4556-4560)
« Reply #30 on: 29 Jun 2021, 18:19 »

Nobody can take Pintsizes place as a chaos gremlin.  That said, Melon will likely fill in until Pintsize has enough growth to fill some of his own shoes again in a very different way (but not literally, because there's no way New Pintsize can fit in those shoes).

I love Babs' reaction today.  She just jumps right to the uber-professional "yeaaaaah, we're going to look over your new body and make sure it's not a (figurative, thank you, Lemon) lemon." approach, not taking any Pintsize's nonsense, but also being a mensh even while insisting (yay, businesswoman; Pintsize has money anyway) in being paid.


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Re: WCDT June 28th - July 2nd (4556-4560)
« Reply #31 on: 29 Jun 2021, 18:26 »

I kinda love Faye here — she’s channeling brusque, borderline mean Faye but it’s combined with the genuine concern/kindness of new!Faye. I dig it.
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Re: WCDT June 28th - July 2nd (4556-4560)
« Reply #32 on: 29 Jun 2021, 18:51 »

Well, nobody wants Pintsize to start dripping motor oil on the carpet :D
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« Reply #33 on: 29 Jun 2021, 19:21 »

Could be a used piece of crap like May's old body. So, yeah...

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« Reply #34 on: 29 Jun 2021, 21:11 »

Are 'ghosts' actually bodyless AIs projecting their minds back in time?  :-P

...that is scary in that it could be true. In the past it was gas causing hallucinations and people exaggerating claims out of fear or money reasons but nowadays that could be the truth!

And infrasonic resonance from clunky old machines.
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« Reply #35 on: 29 Jun 2021, 21:38 »

Unless they are forcing their views on you, STFU.

That’s a pretty extreme overreaction.

No. Not when it's insulting someone's beliefs just because you think of yourself as "educated". How is this any different than someone going after someone because they don't believe in their religion or someone who believes in wicca or witchcraft?

Funny, Claire hasn't had anything to say about Dora's belief in wicca...yet she insults the belief in ghosts.
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« Reply #36 on: 29 Jun 2021, 21:41 »

Faye has good reason for doing what she's doing, but she's smart in trying to make a buck off of someone who has been her nemesis for years and who would happily put something in his body just to make someone gag or scream or get any kind of reaction.

I hope Pintsize can take it because he's been dishing it out for years! Plus Faye just admitted that he was a friend- that's a huge leap in their friendship IMHO.
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« Reply #38 on: 29 Jun 2021, 22:11 »

Faye has good reason for doing what she's doing, but she's smart in trying to make a buck off of someone who has been her nemesis for years and who would happily put something in his body just to make someone gag or scream or get any kind of reaction.

I hope Pintsize can take it because he's been dishing it out for years! Plus Faye just admitted that he was a friend- that's a huge leap in their friendship IMHO.
Between this an your previous comment, I feel like we're reading different comics.

To clarify: in yesterday's strip, they were discussing psychics, with ghosts only being mentioned out of comic in the author comment. Today, Faye *refutes* that they're friends, or at least that refutes him getting a friend discount.
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« Reply #39 on: 29 Jun 2021, 23:28 »

I think that this strip is one of the best summaries of the character of Faye, as she is now, that we've seen in a while. She is still very assertive and isn't brilliant with boundaries (I think that the consistent point Jeph has made in the strip for years is that no-one is that good with those in the end). However, in the end, she wants to help her friends. Notice that her first concern is to make sure it is in good condition. Why? Because, yes, he is a friend, as poor as both characters in this strip are in general at showing those feelings sometimes.

Also, no, Pintsize doesn't qualify for a discount. Not only can Faye probably not afford it, I suspect that he doesn't have money problems.

Oddly enough, this strip has the feeling to me as a weird sort of metaphor of what it must be like to have a friend who is a doctor: You sometimes get unplanned physicals and unsolicited diagnoses!
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« Reply #40 on: 29 Jun 2021, 23:58 »

It appears that Internet Jerry has an unsavoury rep among reputable AI dealers - what a surprise  :roll:

I like how Faye's first response is concern for the annoying little goblin's well-being - well-disguised concern, wrapped in Faye-barbs.

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« Reply #41 on: 30 Jun 2021, 00:11 »

It appears that Internet Jerry has an unsavoury rep among reputable AI dealers - what a surprise  :roll:

Given that Faye and Bubbles are a back-street repair shop staffed by a pair who used to work at an illegal fighting ring, it is clear that Internet Jerry has a bad reputation amongst disreputable synthetic technology professionals too!

I like how Faye's first response is concern for the annoying little goblin's well-being - well-disguised concern, wrapped in Faye-barbs.

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« Reply #42 on: 30 Jun 2021, 07:40 »

See, you stuff the gearbox full of sawdust and it stops those grinding noises.
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« Reply #43 on: 30 Jun 2021, 07:47 »

My thoughts on Faye:
Of course she knows Internet Jerry.
To Faye, Pintsize is an annoying pest whom she has to put up with.  That's more like family than friends.  (I'm sure she'd have similar reactions to her sister.)
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« Reply #44 on: 30 Jun 2021, 09:07 »

He didn't even do anything bad. Yet.
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« Reply #45 on: 30 Jun 2021, 10:33 »

To clarify: in yesterday's strip, they were discussing psychics, with ghosts only being mentioned out of comic in the author comment. Today, Faye *refutes* that they're friends, or at least that refutes him getting a friend discount.

That's not a "we're not friends" refusal. That's a "you're my friend so I'm going to make sure you're okay, but you did something reckless so I'm sure as hell not going to reward you for it" refusal.

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« Reply #46 on: 30 Jun 2021, 10:43 »

To clarify: in yesterday's strip, they were discussing psychics, with ghosts only being mentioned out of comic in the author comment. Today, Faye *refutes* that they're friends, or at least that refutes him getting a friend discount.

That's not a "we're not friends" refusal. That's a "you're my friend so I'm going to make sure you're okay, but you did something reckless so I'm sure as hell not going to reward you for it" refusal.
I mean, I think they're friends, but I also don't see this as Faye outright acknowledging it, which is what I was responding to.
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Re: WCDT June 28th - July 2nd (4556-4560)
« Reply #47 on: 30 Jun 2021, 14:56 »

He didn't even do anything bad. Yet.

Well, he's been swanning around shirtless, wearing socks with sandals, pink hotpants, a pink tie, and a retractable USB cable attached to what would be the "peculiars" of a human body.

That's got to be a set of crimes of some sort.

Maybe he should ask Marigold to buy her very worst t-shirts...


Overall, I gotta be honest: it seemed inevitable that Pintsize would get a new body sooner or later, but I thought it would be a hell of a lot weirder. I mean, I'm sure this one is internally very damn weird, but hey; a head, two arms, two legs, ten fingers, two eyes...
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« Reply #48 on: 30 Jun 2021, 16:15 »

I was just referring to his words, btw.
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Re: WCDT June 28th - July 2nd (4556-4560)
« Reply #49 on: 30 Jun 2021, 18:10 »

New comic.

Yay certainly has an... interesting outlook on life.

"We will take your cat with us. Feel free to undress Clinton as soon as he sets foot in the apartment.

...

Maybe close the door first."
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I am not hiding. I am maintaining a respectful distance.
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