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[blindsuperhero]

Okay, I'll let you off just this once

[Merkava]

Heh. Don't worry, I won't be making obtuse comparisons like that one very often.

[ebullientsoul]

In no praticular order (if you please):

the Bouncing Souls- How I Spent My Summer Vacation, Anchors Aweigh, Hopeless Romantic
Bane-Give Blood
A New Found Glory-Nothing Gold Can Stay, S/T
Minor Threat-Complete Discography
Less Than Jake-Hello Rockview, Losing Streak
Alkaline Trio- Maybe I'll Catch Fire, Goddamnit
Kid Dynamite-S/T
Millencolin-Pennybridge Pioneers, Life on Plate, Home From Home
Midtown-Save the World, Lose the Girl , Living Well is the Best Revenge
H2O-FTTW
Shai Hulud-That Within Blood Ill-Tempered
Kill Hannah-For Never and Ever
Rise Against-Revolutions Per Minute
Lifetime-Jersey's Best Dancers
the Lawrence Arms-Apathy and Exhaustion
Raised Fist-Dedication
Zombie Apocalypse-This Day is a Spark of Life EP
Bad Religion- Against the Grain, Suffer

I should note that this a list of the most influential CDs on me. My top 25 best CDs would make me jump out of the building from the complexity and anxiety of choosing.

Important CDs I "should" have on here but didn't make much of a change on me as other groups:

the Clash-London Calling (3 CD set)
Refused-the Shape of Punk to Come
Gorilla Biscuits-Start Today (hell, i got it a week ago)

[KharBevNor]

Anthem rock

I know exactly what you mean, but the more normal term is 'Stadium Rock' or 'Arena Rock'.

[a pack of wolves]

Zombie Apocalypse-This Day is a Spark of Life EP

Have you ever heard Send More Paramedics? They're in a similar vein to Zombie Apocalypse, in fact I think ZA were formed a little while after they supported Shai Hulud.

[kikanjuuneko]

Eh, when you have people that think sodding Black Dahlia Murder are a good MDM band or even a fair representation of the genre, you know there's a problem.

Uh, I think they're pretty good.

Have you ever heard Send More Paramedics? They're in a similar vein to Zombie Apocalypse, in fact I think ZA were formed a little while after they supported Shai Hulud.

Zombie Apocalypse pretty much are Shai Hulud. It's still a Matt Fox/Matt Fletcher band, only with two vocalists, new drummer and new bass player. That EP/album kicks some serious ass, though. Oh, and what's funny is that ZA and SMP are putting out a split this month.

[a pack of wolves]

Damn, SMP are really getting into the splits thing. They've only just had that one with The Nothing out. I've never really bothered much with ZA though, I just don't think I need more than one zombie hardcore band in my life. And even SMP's starting to get a little tired, it must be close to 4 years since their first gig now.

[KharBevNor]

Eh, when you have people that think sodding Black Dahlia Murder are a good MDM band or even a fair representation of the genre, you know there's a problem.

Uh, I think they're pretty good.

That cover of 'Paint it, Black' was pretty nice.

My mate who I normally respect likes them, along with stuff like Shadows Fall. His excuse is something like he's so goddamn obsessed with MDM that he likes anything MDM influenced. He has the complete discographies of something like 40 MDM bands, everyone from the biggies like In Flames, At The Gates and Dark Tranquillity to unknowns like Insomnium, Gardenian and Lothlorien.

It is a very scary amount of MDM.

[blindsuperhero]

I know exactly what you mean, but the more normal term is 'Stadium Rock' or 'Arena Rock'.

Noooo! The point is, that's not what he meant. Or at least I hope it wasn't

[Robbo]

You're hoping he didn't just call a Radiohead album "stadium rock"?

[blindsuperhero]

Yes, very much so.

[Jed]

Here's my 25 in random order:

Cradle of Filth - Midian
CMX - Cloaca Maxima II
Zen Café - Jättiläinen
Cradle of Filth - Cruelty and the beast
Children of Bodom - Tokyo Warhearts
Viikate - Vuoden synkin juhla
Nine Inch Nails - The Fragile
Impaled Nazarene - Absence of war does not mean peace
Marilyn Manson - Portrait of an american family
Cradle of Filth - Nymphetamine
Marilyn Manson - Antichrist Superstar
Marilyn Manson - Mechanical Animals
Korn - Issues
Juicy Panic - Otarie
Kemopetrol - Play for me
New York Dolls - In too much too soon
The Best of Os Mutantes - Everything is Possible
Aavikko - Multi Muysic
Red Hot Chili Peppers - One Hot Minute
Bob Marley & the Wailers - The very best of early years 1968 - 74
Rob Dougan - Furious Angels
CMX - Aion
Children of Bodom - Hate Crew Deathroll
Children of Bodom - Follow the Reaper
Y.U.P. 1990 - 1992

[KharBevNor]

Wait, he was talking about RADIOHEAD?

^Kudos on the Impaled Nazarene, less kudos on choice of CoF albums.

[Merkava]

Anthem rock

I know exactly what you mean, but the more normal term is 'Stadium Rock' or 'Arena Rock'.

That's what I mean! Sorry, I didn't realize I made the typo. I was skimming through and "Anthem" and "Arena" look very simmilar to the weery mind.

And guys, please understand. I wasn't calling Radiohead's carreer "anthem/arena rock", just The Bends. If you've actually listened to the album, you could probably see where that description came from. I'm not describing Radiohead as arena rock, just The Bends. It's just the type of word that comes to mind.  

It's kind of hard to describe the band's entire carreer when they constantly reinvent themselves, you know.

So, don't think of U2 or 80's heavy metal when reading "arena/anthem".

[blindsuperhero]

God, this just gets worse, doesn't it?

[Merkava]

Everyone forget about it. God, I thought you people didn't care about labeling. I'm just putting some words together to at least SEMI describe the sound. Let's try and avoid an "I'm Indier than you" argument, k?

Anyway, I added 2 more albums to my list.

[kikanjuuneko]

My mate who I normally respect likes them, along with stuff like Shadows Fall. His excuse is something like he's so goddamn obsessed with MDM that he likes anything MDM influenced. He has the complete discographies of something like 40 MDM bands, everyone from the biggies like In Flames, At The Gates and Dark Tranquillity to unknowns like Insomnium, Gardenian and Lothlorien.

It is a very scary amount of MDM.

Wow, and I thought I liked MDM a lot.

[KharBevNor]

I've never seen anything to touch this guy. Especially when you consider that by complete discographies I also mean he's downloaded or traded every bootleg, demo, japanese bonus track etc. he can find for a lot of them.

I mean, he can listen or watch to Dark Tranquillity for something like 12 hours non-stop without repeating a track.

[spizzletrunk]

I don't think I could ever do a top twenty-five.  But I'll give you a top five, because just thinking of twenty-five albums would probably hurt my brain.  I don't own a lot of music.

Rubber Soul by the Beatles
Wowee Zowee by Pavement
Surfer Rosa by the Pixies
California by Mr. Bungle
Harvest by Neil Young

These'll probably be somewhat different within the next month or two.

Please, get indier-than-thou on me.

[MilkmanDan]

12 hours? Pfft. I can listen to Slug for nearly 3 and a half days without repeating a track. Then again, Slug isn't MDM, so I imagine it's a much less gruelling experience.
And with that totally uncalled-for interlude, back on topic.

[KharBevNor]

I think it's more impressive because they only have seven full-length albums, at an average length of about 40 minutes each. He has maybe 3 hours of bootlegs?

I mean, it makes me cold thinking how long I could listen to say, Hawkwind for if I had all their stuff, they have something like 36 official live and studio albums, plus at least 10 collections of radio sessions and demos, 7 EP's with original material that were issued on the front of sci-fi magazines, and about 13 compilations with remixes and such that can't be found elsewhere.

That doesn't even count the bootlegs...

Anyway, yeah, is there anyone who hasn't posted their top 25 yet?

[blindsuperhero]

Rubber Soul by the Beatles
Wowee Zowee by Pavement
Surfer Rosa by the Pixies
California by Mr. Bungle
Harvest by Neil Young

These'll probably be somewhat different within the next month or two.

Please, get indier-than-thou on me.

As requested: 'Revolver' and 'After the Goldrush' are better . I don't relly know much about the other 3 bands (although I really should)

[ebullientsoul]

Damn, SMP are really getting into the splits thing. They've only just had that one with The Nothing out. I've never really bothered much with ZA though, I just don't think I need more than one zombie hardcore band in my life. And even SMP's starting to get a little tired, it must be close to 4 years since their first gig now.

Zombie Apocalypse is a grind band, and let me say that they kick ass. I saw their first show. (Seriously, it was Hellfest 2004, and for those 10 minutes, I was in nirvana.)

So go listen to them at www.moritiviventi.com

[a pack of wolves]

I never realised they were grind, I have that cover they did so I thought it was all roughly in that vein, and from what I heard pretty similar to SMP. I'll go take a look at what else they have, I do like a bit of grind.

Edit: Aww, I was expecting grind, but it is just hardcore. They're alright though, but like I said the zombie thang is starting to wear a little thin by now. I haven't even picked up the second SMP album yet and it's been out for a long time now. 'Zombie Crew' is a fun song though, and the video's pretty mint. But I just don't feel like I need ZA as well.

[spizzletrunk]

As requested: 'Revolver' and 'After the Goldrush' are better . I don't relly know much about the other 3 bands (although I really should)

As for Rubber Soul vs. Revolver, Rubber Soul always just fit a style I was more comfortable with.  It always stood out to me more than Revolver, even though Revolver is also phenomenally good.  Now, After the Goldrush vs. Harvest was a very difficult choice.  I know After the Goldrush is probably the better album, but I find myeslf listening to Harvest more.  I guess I felt the need to stand up for it, really, because the other album gets more hype, and I find Harvest to be quite nearly as good.

[KharBevNor]

If Send More Paramedics are hardcore, what other hardcore bands sound like them? I think SMP are pretty rad, but have loathed or at least been disinterested in most of the hardcore/metalcore stuff friends have played to me. I just always thought SMP were crossover or something. They call themselves 'zombiecore' don't they?

[a pack of wolves]

I imagine they call themselves something like that. Hmm... ever heard Municipal Waste Khar?
Municipal Waste - Drunk As Shit
Maybe worth a go, seems kind of similar to some of SMP's stuff to me, although not to songs like 'Zombie Crew'. I'm a bit rubbish at comparing bands though.

[kikanjuuneko]

To be honest, I don't think SMP is much of a 'core band at all. They have that same raw, unpolished sound, both playing- and production-wise of early Bay Area thrash to me.

[KharBevNor]

^ Kinda what I thought tbh. They're even on the Metal Archives, and they get crazy elitist about 'core.

[Merkava]

Rubber Soul by the Beatles
Wowee Zowee by Pavement
Surfer Rosa by the Pixies
California by Mr. Bungle
Harvest by Neil Young

These'll probably be somewhat different within the next month or two.

Please, get indier-than-thou on me.

As requested: 'Revolver' and 'After the Goldrush' are better . I don't relly know much about the other 3 bands (although I really should)

Well, for The Pixies, Surfer Rosa and Doolittle are the only really good albums. For Pavement, you can choose any, because all of them have something to make them your favorite album.

Rubber Soul has Norweigen Wood, I believe, so that alone makes the album worth a top album list. XP

I agree with you on Neil Young, though. After the Goldrush may be his best.

[a pack of wolves]

Yeah, you have a point. It is very thrash. I guess one reason I always think of them as a hardcore band is just from the shows they play and the people that are in them. And a song like 'Zombie Crew' is just cheesy mosh hardcore.