Topic: Most Pretentious Band(s) (Read 73522 times)

Johnny C · « **Reply #50 on:** 17 Apr 2005, 21:00 »

Quote from: ASturge

The Killers

Explanation pleez.

BehringerBoy · « **Reply #51 on:** 18 Apr 2005, 06:03 »

holy shit. Oasis, Led Zeppelin, Nightwish. Who isn´t pretensious, for fuck sakes? I just think its funny noone mentioned the band that gets screwed by every webcomic ever made, Good Charlotte.

Spike · « **Reply #52 on:** 18 Apr 2005, 06:09 »

I can't say I have ever cared about a pretentious band. Actually I find it kind of funny. I can't stand pretentious fans though.

Oh and yes, I too hate Rush with a burning passion. I don't know why. I heard them, and I just knew.

Spencer · « **Reply #53 on:** 18 Apr 2005, 08:22 »

Pretentious does not = bad.

Most art-rock/art-core will be pretentious as hell, but often times it ends up being really good, in that aquired taste kinda way (Blood Brothers being my own, personal example).

Jam Bands like phish and the dead are the type of pretentious I just cant get into.

Prog-Rock has to be pretentious. I think thats one of the rules. But boy, I love me some Genesis, Mars Volta, and Sunny Day Real Estate/Fire Theft

Just about all "emo" is pretentious. I mean really, who gives a fuck about your feelings? (Millions of teenagers (and me) all across america!)

Costumes - Wearing costumes makes you both pretentious and ridiculous. I'M LOOKING RIGHT AT YOU, THE LOCUST/AQUABATS!

Oh, my

I would say The Mars Volta is my favorite pretentious band.

Kai · « **Reply #54 on:** 18 Apr 2005, 15:00 »

Quote from: Spencer

Costumes - Wearing costumes makes you both pretentious and ridiculous.

Yay! The Residents are the most Pretentious and Ridiculous band on Earth by this logic!

Robbo · « **Reply #55 on:** 18 Apr 2005, 15:11 »

What about GWAR then?

Signum_Tenebrae · « **Reply #56 on:** 18 Apr 2005, 15:35 »

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Well, Skippy, the fact is Blind Guardian is the most god awful, over rated pile of tripe to ever grace the planet. It's essentially music for kids who go larping, and I will not abide by such horrid taste.

Battlelore is much worse. They have motherfucking character sheets instead of bios in their album liner notes!

HAHAHA, that's hilarious!!

Pretentious shit:

- Most prog/math stuff. . Doesn't mean I don't like all of it, though.
- Any grindcore that tries to be anything other than offensive, stupid, or nasty.
- Guitar god wankery bullshit. I hate you Yngwie malmsteen and I hope you die.

Robbo · « **Reply #57 on:** 18 Apr 2005, 15:38 »

On the Guitar god wankery bit...while I like that stuff, yes Yngwie is a twat and really needs to die.

Like on the G3 Rocking In The Free World DVD....guess who has to solo first, all the sodding time.

KharBevNor · « **Reply #58 on:** 18 Apr 2005, 15:39 »

Quote from: Robbo

What about GWAR then?

What about fucking Lordi?

Both GWAR and Lordi escape this thpough by being essentially party music, which just really can't be taken pretentiously.

Me And The Moon Car · « **Reply #59 on:** 18 Apr 2005, 15:59 »

Why hasn't anyone mentioned A Silver Mt Zion yet? I adore them to smithereens, but sheesh, their record titles could win an award for pretentiousity if ever such an award was an award. He Has Left Us Alone But Shafts of Light Sometimes Grace the Corners of Our Rooms, Blown-Out Joy from Heaven's Mercied Hole, This Gentle Hearts Like Shot Birds FallenMusic... etc etc. I'd like to be as pretentious as Efrim, someday.

jus · « **Reply #60 on:** 18 Apr 2005, 16:25 »

Quote from: Kai

As I said in the "What are you listening to" thread, Radiohead are a bunch of pretentious fucks. "Look at us, we can make a concept album with no concept! Praise us as the best band of all time!"

I disagree, it seems like most succesful experimental bands get crucified on the internet for being pretentious. Certainly, their music seems tailor made for popular critical acclaim, but I find a lot of it to be quite sincere as well as ambitious (although I don't have all their CDs).

As far as the way they actually conduct themselves in public, all I've heard them do is scoff at the notion that they are amongst some elite pantheon of rock stars. So while they might feel they are the shit in private, I doubt there are very many that wouldn't share that sentiment... and little else can expected of them in the public eye.

Hoborg · « **Reply #61 on:** 18 Apr 2005, 17:04 »

GWAR plays music?

Johnny C · « **Reply #62 on:** 18 Apr 2005, 17:39 »

I guess.

mechorg · « **Reply #63 on:** 18 Apr 2005, 17:58 »

Expanding on the Radiohead defence:
I saw them at a festival last year where they were slated to play after The Pixies. Thom complained to the organizer about headlining over probably their most influencial band and asked it to be switched.
It was not changed, but during the show he still brought mention and another round of applause for The Pixies just for rocking.

I think Radiohead fans create the bands own pretentiousness.

static_cult · « **Reply #64 on:** 18 Apr 2005, 18:00 »

tool has the most pretentious fans...

i dunno, i think big, long solos and proggy noodling are better described as 'self-indulgent'.

the most pretentious band ever probably wouldn't even make music, they'd just go to the club, show up on stage, and smoke cigarettes for a half hour and then leave. and everybody would call it art.

mechorg · « **Reply #65 on:** 18 Apr 2005, 18:04 »

Quote from: static_cult

the most pretentious band ever probably wouldn't even make music, they'd just go to the club, show up on stage, and smoke cigarettes for a half hour and then leave. and everybody would call it art.

haha! that reminds me of the best band that ever existed.

Inlander · « **Reply #66 on:** 18 Apr 2005, 18:20 »

We drove 'em wild at the Grammy show,
By refusin' to play and refusin' to go . . .

(For pity's sake, don't jump down my throat if I've got a word wrong - it's been years since I last heard that song.)

Mnementh · « **Reply #67 on:** 18 Apr 2005, 18:56 »

Quote from: BehringerBoy

I just think its funny noone mentioned the band that gets screwed by every webcomic ever made, Good Charlotte.

Hey, Good Charlotte has one thing going for them. They aren't My Chemical Romance.

Kai · « **Reply #68 on:** 18 Apr 2005, 19:01 »

Elvis was pretty pretentious in my mind. I mean, didn't he release an album of nothing but crowd noise? What the fuck is up with that?

Johnny C · « **Reply #69 on:** 18 Apr 2005, 21:59 »

Quote from: Mnementh

Hey, Good Charlotte has one thing going for them. They aren't My Chemical Romance.

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Seriously, I like MCR. Why the hate?

muffy · « **Reply #70 on:** 19 Apr 2005, 03:31 »

Quote from: static_cult

the most pretentious band ever probably wouldn't even make music, they'd just go to the club, show up on stage, and smoke cigarettes for a half hour and then leave. and everybody would call it art.

So you've seen Meanwhile Back In Communist Russia too, then?

normz · « **Reply #71 on:** 19 Apr 2005, 06:09 »

Quote from: static_cult

tool has the most pretentious fans...

Yes that sounds like most of my mates ........ 'like lets discuss the true inner meaning of the words spiral out because nothing can be taken on face value and everything has to have some weird freaky occult meaning behind it' Me: uhhh yeah fucking i'm going to get another corona and you guys better not be talking about porn again when i get back

Spencer · « **Reply #72 on:** 19 Apr 2005, 07:48 »

I'm way to scared of GWAR to insinuate anything negative about them.

a pack of wolves · « **Reply #73 on:** 19 Apr 2005, 07:55 »

Quote from: Johnny C

Seriously, I like MCR. Why the hate?

Boring, vapid pop-rock bands tend to get a lot of that.

Robbo · « **Reply #74 on:** 19 Apr 2005, 08:43 »

I've yet to run across hardcore Tool fans raving about such things, I guess I'm lucky. Talking technically about the music is one thing, I go looking for that, but hidden pattern, damn.

static_cult · « **Reply #75 on:** 19 Apr 2005, 08:49 »

or obsessing over tool's poor frontman... the fans i know are a little too familiar with his personal life.

Robbo · « **Reply #76 on:** 19 Apr 2005, 08:49 »

Right....I see. Well, considering I dont do drugs, that's never gonna happen. There is of course, that age old topic "What music is better on drugs" where all the various music/drug combos are talked over.

Oh, and from that notion, Injected Blech have to go as well. For doing things like recording their albums backwards.

normz · « **Reply #77 on:** 19 Apr 2005, 08:54 »

lol all this tool fan stuff is ringing so true with most of my mates ......... 'like omg did you know danney carey sets up his kit so as to open up a 6th portal allowing him to enter the realm of the ....... ' and 'OMFG maynard is the same shoe size as me' and this is my cue: ' Shut the fuck up guys i'm trying to listen to the song here' ..... 'apparantly tool have also coded one of their songs as to change the ions in your body' uhhh SHURE Maynard/Danny/Justin/Adam etc are not god/s and Tool are not trying to steal your soul it's merely good music ......

Robbo · « **Reply #78 on:** 19 Apr 2005, 08:58 »

And back in the day, Prog bands just did thing like hide messages.

Eg YYZ in morse code in the opening drum beat to the Rush track of that name.

Or Dream Theater sicking in "Eat My Ass And Balls" in "In The Name of God" which is a nice little refernce to the fucked up live version of Fatal Tragedy. Almost as much of a self piss-take as Canadian Rap.

Ok, so both of those are fairly bad but anyway.

normz · « **Reply #79 on:** 19 Apr 2005, 09:14 »

lol whats this about obscene messages hidden in dream theater *gets out good pair of headphones*

Robbo · « **Reply #80 on:** 19 Apr 2005, 09:16 »

It's in morse code in the drum beats, from about 5:51 to 6:07 in the track, it does it twice.

And as for why they did the "eat my ass and balls" bit at all live, I dont know. Thought if you want it, I'll stick it up for dl, just to laugh.

normz · « **Reply #81 on:** 19 Apr 2005, 09:31 »

Hmmm will sus it out and yeah stick it up for d/l if you want .......... it would be nice to have something to make me laugh and bring me out of my tissue surrounded state of alleric reaction to pollen

Robbo · « **Reply #82 on:** 19 Apr 2005, 09:34 »

Yeah, pollen is evil. Download will be up in a few minutes. I can also stick up the beat/code breakdown that was posted as well if you needed.

Only reason anyone found it is because Mike said there was something there and people went through the album with a fine comb. I think he dropped some comments about Rush that tipped people off.

normz · « **Reply #83 on:** 19 Apr 2005, 09:41 »

I look like I'm uber stoned ...... damn watery red eyes and attack of giggles due to weird drugs *shakes fist at pollen* Anyways..... Stick the breakdown on as well i could do it myself but im on the laptop and im too lazy to boot up my pc and use all the crazy music editing software

Robbo · « **Reply #84 on:** 19 Apr 2005, 09:46 »

Ahh, how I love that feeling of all the anti-hayfeaver drugs I take at times. One a day my arse.

Anyway, dirty lyrics version. http://www.robbo.oeck.net/Stuff/Dream_Theater_-_Fatal_Tragedy_live.mp3'> Fatal Tragedy (it's 9.6 megs btw)

As for the breakdown:

This is the nugget.

EAT MY ASS AND BALLS EAT MY ASS AND BALLS

in Morse code from 5:51-6:07.

The pattern breaks down like this:

..-----.--.-.......--.-..-....-.-...-..... (from 5:51 - 5:59)
..-----.--.-.......--.-..-....-.-...-..... (from 5:59 - 6:07)

. = E
.- = A
- = T
-- = M
-.-- = Y
... = S
-. = N
-.. = D
-... = B
.-.. = L

EATMYASSANDBALLS written in Morse code [without] any spaces is:

..-----.--.-.......--.-..-....-.-...-.....

Taken from DTfaq.com. Full credit to the site and Nick Bogovich who they credit with finding it out.

normz · « **Reply #85 on:** 19 Apr 2005, 09:50 »

that is sooo sweet........ brings a whole new meaning to my fave dream theater cd of all time

Robbo · « **Reply #86 on:** 19 Apr 2005, 09:56 »

That's the good thing about Prog bands like that, so much easier for them to stick random and strange things in their music.

There's always stuff in DT's songs one way or another. And in their rare/live stuff. Roll on the new album. Ahh, I own too much/not enough of their live and rare stuff. Like the live version of the second version of ACOS, rather than the final third version.

normz · « **Reply #87 on:** 19 Apr 2005, 10:05 »

Lol prog bands are cool but at the same time it's so pretentious (I'm trying to get back on topic here so that hopefully ppl will ignore our long winded random convo)

Robbo · « **Reply #88 on:** 19 Apr 2005, 10:11 »

It's all my fault. But then at least it was around the area of the topic. And from the listening thread, Refused, just for "The Shape of Punk to Come"

normz · « **Reply #89 on:** 19 Apr 2005, 10:24 »

*shrugs* it's all good ..... just add me on msn so we can put everyone else out of their misery ummm yeah *shouts* PRENTIOUS BASTARDS *shaking of fist*

a pack of wolves · « **Reply #90 on:** 19 Apr 2005, 12:31 »

Oh yeah, much as I love that Refused record it runs head-first for pretension. Same with Canvas - 'Lost In Rock'.

coldcut · « **Reply #91 on:** 19 Apr 2005, 14:25 »

I am so surprised Ryan Adams hasn't come up yet.

Robbo · « **Reply #92 on:** 19 Apr 2005, 14:29 »

Doing a crappy cover of a crappy Brit Pop song doesn't fall into this thread.

muffy · « **Reply #93 on:** 19 Apr 2005, 16:11 »

Quote from: coldcut

I am so surprised Ryan Adams hasn't come up yet.

SO TRUE!
So far, he's tried to ape pretty much every band/singer-songwriter etc in existence, and has done the Winona Ryder thing, an as soon as one band comes up with a gimmick, he tries to out-do them - (two albums on one day? I'll release THREE this year!)..he makes my blood boil, even more so when he writes a good song, as then I feel bad for liking it as it's a piece of piss to guess not only which band, but which exact song he was listening to just before he recorded it.

Robbo · « **Reply #94 on:** 19 Apr 2005, 16:15 »

Three in a year, nothing new. Lots of MP3 only bands release several albums in one year. In 12 months, By Dawn Cursed released 4 albums, 2 split albums and an EP. But then that's because it's easy to record and all "hey, I'm bored, I'll do some songs. Hmm, this makes a new album, out it goes, only took two weeks."

But anyway, damn he sucks hard.

muffy · « **Reply #95 on:** 19 Apr 2005, 16:26 »

^ Agree on every point. He's only trying to get another press angle so people have something to talk about, instead of going 'Oh Ryan Adams? Yeah, he's kind of...lame, I guess'.
I sincerely hope it doesn't work.

Robbo · « **Reply #96 on:** 19 Apr 2005, 16:31 »

Well, not on people with a brain and really, you're more likely to talk about music with them.

And like I said, crappy cover, crappy song. That and the OC.

MrKneebone · « **Reply #97 on:** 19 Apr 2005, 18:45 »

Anyone for The Strokes?

I love em, but they'd have to be up there with the most pretentious bands ever, wouldn't they?

As for Pretentious fans: I'd rank Radiohead fans around the top of the pile. Again I like the band, and there is a decent smattering of genuine fans, but so many people that I've met who claim to loooove Radiohead, often seemed like they're trying a little too hard.

jus · « **Reply #98 on:** 19 Apr 2005, 18:55 »

Quote from: MrKneebone

Anyone for The Strokes?

I love em, but they'd have to be up there with the most pretentious bands ever, wouldn't they?

As for Pretentious fans: I'd rank Radiohead fans around the top of the pile. Again I like the band, and there is a decent smattering of genuine fans, but so many people that I've met who claim to loooove Radiohead, often seemed like they're trying a little too hard.

Well, I loooove Radiohead...

I can see why Radiohead could have spawned a following of wannabe intellectuals, I just haven't met them. People at my school just listen to bad music, period... I wish we had people who at least pretended to like good music

. Ah, you gotta love this town.

MrKneebone · « **Reply #99 on:** 19 Apr 2005, 19:17 »

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I wish we had people who at least pretended to like good music

You know what - You're totally right. I can relate.

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