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My Friend is a Metalhead...
« on: 29 Apr 2005, 15:21 »

Think Natasha, with a penis.


Okay, so, my friend is a metalhead... and that's all he listens to, mainly - well, that, and Bright Eyes (odd, I know).  Lately I've gotten him into some Afghan Whigs and even some Decemberists... but what other music should I push on to him?  He seems pretty open minded about me forcing my crap down his throat, so that's exactly what I want to do!

Help my Metalhead friend see the light.
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« Reply #1 on: 29 Apr 2005, 15:28 »

What metal bands does he like?
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« Reply #2 on: 29 Apr 2005, 16:44 »

METAL IS GREATER THAN INDIE BY FAR.

YOu see, metal is actually more indie than indie, pushging RAW EMOTION and fucking awesome guitar and shit over the fucking boring cack you listen to.


I AM VERY DRUNK AND STUFF.

RAWR.
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« Reply #3 on: 29 Apr 2005, 16:48 »

IN THE BOOOOOOK OF HEEEEAAAVVVY METAAAAAAAAAALLLL!!!!
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« Reply #4 on: 29 Apr 2005, 17:19 »

Introduce him to Voorhees, Creation Is Crucifixion, Trencher, You And I, Orchid, Spazz, Melt-Banana and Man Is The Bastard. Not metal, but may well appeal to a metalhead.

But if you want something indie, get them some Mission of Burma. They have a nice hard edge to them.
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« Reply #5 on: 29 Apr 2005, 17:22 »

HEEEAVY EMTAL IS ALL YOU NEED.

INDIE I FOR CUCOSKS

FUCK YOUN AL
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« Reply #6 on: 29 Apr 2005, 17:25 »

I think you need some quiet time alone with Manowar right about now.
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« Reply #7 on: 29 Apr 2005, 17:30 »

Oh man, that's fsound sgod.
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« Reply #8 on: 29 Apr 2005, 17:33 »

Do you know who made havy metal? THE GODS MADE HEAV METLA/!!!T

They also saw that it was good!

REAL GOOOOOD

so good trhat ade manowar write a sibg abot ut.
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« Reply #9 on: 29 Apr 2005, 17:38 »

Which emans that metal is the light! It#s you inde fools who need to see it..THE BOOkkkk h

heavy metal is so cool that it#s ghusrt WHOA
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« Reply #10 on: 29 Apr 2005, 17:44 »

"There's metal in the air tonight, can you hear it call?"

Back to recommendations for the metalhead, how about some MC5, Stooges and late period Black Flag? Can't beat the classics.
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« Reply #11 on: 29 Apr 2005, 21:10 »

METAL RULEZ LEMMY IS GOD!!!!
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« Reply #12 on: 29 Apr 2005, 21:27 »

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HEEEAVY EMTAL IS ALL YOU NEED.

INDIE I FOR CUCOSKS

FUCK YOUN AL


HAHAHAHA.

KharBevNor. .. \m/
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« Reply #13 on: 29 Apr 2005, 22:17 »

ROFL


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« Reply #14 on: 29 Apr 2005, 23:31 »

ah yes, the resident Poster of Drunken Threads.  Man, I loves you Khar... "Straight People Are a Bit Odd..."?  Classic.


Anyway, I'm sad to report that he's only into the mainstream stuff (not his fault, he has very little experience in these things.  He just listens to whatever is handed to him.)


Okay, so, you can crucify me if you wish... but this is what he listens to, and I subsequently have catagorized it as metal.

1.  Slipknot
2.  Manson
3.  Static-X
4.  Slayer
5.  Disturbed
6.  System of a Down
7.  Otep
8.  Mudvayn
etc, etc...

Other stuff-

1.  Nirvana
2.  Bright Eyes
3.  Nine Inch Nails
4.  Decemberists
5.  Afghan Whigs

...


Hmmm, come to think of it, we need to get this kid some Metal That Doesn't Suck TM.  Don't we?  Alright, so I'm not a huge metal fan myself, so let's start posting some Paradigms of the Metal genre.
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« Reply #15 on: 30 Apr 2005, 00:30 »

Umm.. Dark Tranquility.

They are an awesome metal band it is hard not to like.
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« Reply #16 on: 30 Apr 2005, 01:09 »

GWAR BROUGHT ROCKNROLL FROM OUTER SPACE.

Wait who said that in the first place, a long time ago?

Neurosis.  They are pretty decent stuff
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« Reply #17 on: 30 Apr 2005, 02:35 »

To make it even more metal, I was mainly drinking Jack Daniels last night. About half a bottle of it.

ANYWAY our scientists have analysed the effort and proved that my sense of indignation proved unfounded as your friend is a poser. Our scienists have proved that there is no logical reason to like Otep, apart from the fact that that chick is pretty hot. By all means do anything and everything you can to improve his musical taste, though, me being who I am, I would probably see this as involving Acid Bath, Sabbat, old Dimmu Borgir, some Priest, Maiden and Motorhead, 3 Inches of Blood, Running Wild, Samael etc.

It is safe to say though that once someone sets themselves (however wrong footedly) on a path there's probably a good reason. He probably likes loud, aggressive/angsty music. Just get him listening to BETTER loud aggressive/angsty music.
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« Reply #18 on: 30 Apr 2005, 04:12 »

Poser indeed, ugh what horrible crap that list is. Still, the drunken postings where great. Khar, dude, I owe you a drink of choice if I ever see you mate.
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« Reply #19 on: 30 Apr 2005, 05:54 »

Yeah, if you're ever in Leeds Khar I'd buy you some Jack Daniels and see if you're as much fun drunk in real life.

I've had good results introducing nu-metal fans to Refused's 'The Shape of Punk To Come', I'm not sure why they seem to find it palatable but they do.
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« Reply #20 on: 30 Apr 2005, 06:34 »

Building on my last post, Acid Bath seem quite compatable with new-metal sensibilities: Grunge/goth influenced sludge. Get him to listen to 'Paegan Terrorism Tactics'. If he likes Slayer, then he should be able to take other thrash bands: Stormtroopers of Death would probably appeal to him, old Metallica's a safe bet too, maybe some of the old  thrash giants: Exodus, Kreator and the lesser known but fucking awesome Tankard. Get him into the softer end of the extreme as a stepping stone: MDM bands like the aforementioned Dark Tranquillity, In Flames (He'll like the new album almost certainly, then you can work back), Arch Enemy, Children of Bodom*, Soilwork, maybe At The Gates, Opeth* and Edge of Sanity. Symphonic/Gothic black metal too: Cradle of Filth and Dimmu Borgir are the best known (again, you can start on the latest albums and work back to earlier, superior material) but there's loads of others, often better, that'll appeal of he likes those: Illnath, Hecate Enthroned, Gloomy Grim and Limbonic Art and Cryptic Wintermoon** are some good suggestions, In the Black Metal realm as well you might want to consider proto-BM like Mercyful Fate (and descendant King Diamond), Venom etc. , as well as more punky/rock influenced BM bands such as Carpathian Forest, Abigail and Treblinka***. There are the classics of hard rock and metal of course: Black Sabbath, Iron Maiden, Judas Priest, Alice Cooper, Motorhead, AC/DC and so forth: plus modern descendents like 3 Inches of Blood, Dream Evil, Viking Skull, etc. and Melo-doom/stoner bands like Candlemass and Orange Goblin (candlemass will be good if he's an angsty cunt: Make him listen to 'Solitude' before he burns all his Slipknot CDs: My Dying Bride are in a similiar vein). NIN suggests a liking for Industrial rock...get him into Rammstein, Ministry, KMFDM and Hanzel Und Gretyl. The Decemberists are touch folky aren't they? Folk metal his ass! Finntroll, Skyclad, Waylander, Korpiklaani etc. may be too bizarre for him, or may be his groove. Speaking of groove, there's some pretty accessible groove-based Death Metal: I would suggest Grave, Dismember and Vital Remains personally, as well as some new Death 'n Roll Entombed.

Should be enough to be getting on with...

Also, gentlemen, it takes many a Jack and Coke before I get to the stage I was at last night. I drank about half a large bottle, some vodka and goodness knows how much cider (I remember vaguely swigging from a 2 and a half litre bottle of strongbow like it was lemonade: I think I may have drunk all if it).  

*Not technically MDM but we're not here to debate genre semantics.
**Again, not really symph black, but...well, you know the score.
***Obscure as fuck so don't search too hard.
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« Reply #21 on: 30 Apr 2005, 08:31 »

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1.  Slipknot
2.  Manson
3.  Static-X
4.  Slayer
5.  Disturbed
6.  System of a Down
7.  Otep
8.  Mudvayn
etc, etc...

Other stuff-

1.  Nirvana
2.  Bright Eyes
3.  Nine Inch Nails
4.  Decemberists
5.  Afghan Whigs


- Slipknot - Quite possibly the single most hated band among cult metal fans, that said I don't mind them too much - I don't take most of what they did seriously, but I kind of dig their noisier moments and rhythm section.  Slipknot fans who enjoy more than just their latest album may also be in with a shot of digging extreme metal and modern hardcore.  Try Cryptopsy for starters.  Maybe Carcass (Necrotism: Descanting The Insalubrious).

- System Of A Down - See above.  If he likes more melodic nu-metal as well, Dark Tranquillity's Projector is worth the risk.  Kind of like a metal Depeche Mode...  Their new album Character is OK too, although Projector has some clean vocals unlike the all-growling Character.

- Slayer - Are great, as a thrash band I don't see anything wrong with 'em.  Maybe try to get him into some of the 80s hardcore punk bands that influenced Slayer such as Minor Threat, and thrash that emerged later such as S.O.D. (Stormtroopers Of Death - Speak English Or Die).  Celtic Frost were another thrash metal band, but with a bit of an experimental streak and more cult appeal.  Morbid Tales anyone?

- Bright Eyes - I don't like Bright Eyes, and I really don't like the album Digital Ash In A Digital Urn, however on Digital Ash... they touch on a kind of music/mood that I often enjoy in what I do listen to.  For more synth-driven music with simple rhythms and affected vocals try early Death In June (The Guilty Have No Pride, NADA!), the darker side of The Legendary Pink Dots (Asylum), and Tears For Fears (their first album, The Hurting).  For more acoustic music by song-writers try The Freewheelin' Bob Dylan, Songs Of Leonard Cohen, and Current 93's Thunder Perfect Mind and you're off to a decent start with pretty obvious choices.

- Nine Inch Nails - I always liked them, they were one of my favourite bands back when I was just getting into music, but there is so much other music that one can get into through this group.  Depeche Mode undoubtedly had a big influence on the early NIN sound, as is evident on Pretty Hate Machine - Violator is a safe bet, though obvious, if he hasn't heard that album already.  Skinny Puppy's Cleanse Fold And Manipulate, Coil's Horse Rotorvator, and Ministry's The Land Of Rape And Honey are all essential 80s industrial/industrial metal albums that should be explored.  As far as goth or goth-ish music is concerned, 90s Swans (The Great Annihilator) and The Virgin Prunes (If I Die, I Die) should also be investigated.
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« Reply #22 on: 30 Apr 2005, 08:57 »

Dude, this Hectorbitch knows his shit!

The Swans and Virgin Prunes are both great!
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« Reply #23 on: 30 Apr 2005, 10:28 »

That Lincoln Park band is pretty cool.
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« Reply #24 on: 30 Apr 2005, 11:13 »

Howabout that Corn band? Or that Puddle of Mud? I hear Limp Biscuits used to be pretty rad.
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« Reply #25 on: 30 Apr 2005, 11:15 »

limp scones as the french would say...
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« Reply #26 on: 30 Apr 2005, 11:19 »

Okay, Okay, Okay... now I must defend my best friend.  

First off, he's not a poser... he just doesn't know any better.  He's naive is all,  that's why I'm here.  We need to fix him.

Second, I kinda like Slipknot.

Third, yeah, his main basis for liking Otep is "the chick is way hot".

Fourth, he's not a poser!  Seriously, he just doesn't know the good stuff exists.  And, he doesn't really know he's a metalhead either... he's pretty far removed from that kind of stuff.  But, boy, does he fit the sterotype.

Fifth, okay, yeah... I left out all the old school stuff he listens to.  Metallica, AC/DC, Sabbath, etc... they're all there.

Edit - god damn it, my best friend sucks.  Thanks guys, we'll fix him yet.
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« Reply #27 on: 30 Apr 2005, 11:20 »

Slipknot have some good drumming, and they can turn out a decent pop song when they turn their mind to it.
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« Reply #28 on: 30 Apr 2005, 11:48 »

Marilyn Manson was never metal. It was all strictly rock, with a bunch of electronics in it.
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« Reply #29 on: 30 Apr 2005, 11:53 »

if he likes the decemberists, then he 'AIGHT

(if 16 military wives is his favourite song then he should be shot)
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« Reply #30 on: 30 Apr 2005, 11:53 »

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(if 16 military wives is his favourite song then he should be shot)


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« Reply #31 on: 30 Apr 2005, 11:59 »

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Marilyn Manson was never metal. It was all strictly rock, with a bunch of electronics in it.


I listen to white kids with guitars playing slapdash lo-fi pop songs about spatulas, I don't know these things.
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« Reply #32 on: 30 Apr 2005, 12:02 »

It's alright, we'll show you the errors of your ways. You will learn the joys of the darkside and such and such.
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« Reply #33 on: 30 Apr 2005, 12:03 »

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(if 16 military wives is his favourite song then he should be shot)


Leslie Anne Lavine.


yeah!!!!!

if he likes decemberists get him to try Neutral Milk Hotel

(cmon! there are some comparisons! )
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« Reply #34 on: 30 Apr 2005, 12:03 »

The music police approve of your Dr. Thorpe references comrade! You shall be awarded the order of Jim Morrison, first class.
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« Reply #35 on: 30 Apr 2005, 12:16 »

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Teach me, oh dark and alluring one.
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« Reply #36 on: 30 Apr 2005, 12:26 »

Listen to At The Gates. I like lo-fi pop and I think they're neat.
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« Reply #37 on: 01 May 2005, 23:08 »

Ahahahahha, so I showed my friend this thread.  This is his response -

"Fuck all of you!  You guys all need to get a life and let me listen to the music that makes me happy - or sad - however I want to feel at that given time.  I don't tell you stupid ass holes what to listen to do I?  No I don't.  Because I am not like that.  So fuck off, bitches."


So I typed the laughter before he told me what to say.  That's not very funny, I think we really pissed him off.



He'll be better for it.
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« Reply #38 on: 02 May 2005, 00:36 »

Man, could he be more of a poser? You get a bunch of free music recs and laugh because you dont know them and are afraid of looking like a whiny Nu Metal bitch?

Kids today, no respect.
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« Reply #39 on: 02 May 2005, 02:07 »

He did this same thing when I linked him that article at Something Awful about TOOL.
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« Reply #40 on: 02 May 2005, 02:09 »

kids these days!?

I'm a mere 15 years old and am a fully quailfied indie snob!
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« Reply #41 on: 02 May 2005, 02:10 »

Yeah, see how badly your parents scarred you. You grew up to like Indie. You're now unable to like anything that isn't dull :P
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« Reply #42 on: 02 May 2005, 02:33 »

I'm afraid indie snobs are quite far down the snob pecking order. You're only just above black and power metal snobs, and a little below noise snobs (they get bonus points for being proper, full-on mentalists). But you can at least take comfort in the fact that you are far above electronica snobs... because those guys are just dull.

That's right, I'm a snob snob.
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« Reply #43 on: 02 May 2005, 02:36 »

I dont think it's possible to have Power Metal snobs. And BELOW Black Metal snobs? When Indie so wants to be as necro and as elitist but just doesn't have the balls to really :P

I need to become a full on Avant Garde snob, then I can look down on everyone.
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« Reply #44 on: 02 May 2005, 02:45 »

Trust me, you get power metal snobs. I've met one, and presumably there must be more. I imagine they rove in packs in mainland Europe. Black metal snobs lose points because they're too ridiculous to be taken seriously in the tough world of snob-land.

Of course, the supreme snob is the hardcore snob (although avant garde snobs do rank highly, just defeating the jazz snobs on account of their ability to claim to have transcended jazz), as we judge people not just on music but on every facet of their lives. Clothes, diet, drug consumption, politics, hair, even where you live... nothing is safe from the true hardcore snob. They're like the Jedis of snobbery.
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« Reply #45 on: 02 May 2005, 02:49 »

Apart from the Black Circle, who are harder than all snobs, for the whole "Well yes, but have you actually KILLED for the ideas of your music? Becuase I have" But then now most of them are looked up or no longer Kvlt enough.

But yes, Hardcore snobs pretty much take the cake when it comes to things like that. Hence why the 101 Rules of being Hardcore list is actually funny the first time you read it.
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« Reply #46 on: 02 May 2005, 02:57 »

Ah, but i can look down on all you people due to the fact that basically, 'It's just noise'

Like, dude, where's your soul man.....? whatever happened to love?
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« Reply #47 on: 02 May 2005, 02:59 »

No, we look down on you for not even having the most basiclly educated musical ear. And the fact you completely lack the understanding of anything beyond 3 chords and 4/4 hi hat/snare drumming.

Soul, love? We can say the same for Indie.

And before you say, Drone means we also get to look down on you for not being able to make good songs that are nothing more than one ultra distorted chord reverbed for 10 minutes.
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« Reply #48 on: 02 May 2005, 03:00 »

We love our vinyl, so long as it's oop.

And if you're a true hardcore snob then it is required that you listen to all the decent indie and metal bands anyway. There lies the path of true poserness.
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« Reply #49 on: 02 May 2005, 03:01 »

Love, love!? We have transcended love, balancing on a razor-edge between purest emotion and despair!

Or something. I don't get your point anyway, because there's plenty of metal songs about love.

But seriously, anyone who seriously suggests that any of the music I listen to is 'just noise' is on a hiding for a vicious argument or a beating (depending what mood I'm in and whether you're much larger/stronger than me).
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