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« Reply #50 on: 12 May 2005, 07:15 »
But you've got too much to wear on your sleeves,
It's too much to do with me,
And secretly I want you buried in the yard,
The grave remains of a friendship scarred.

I love The Shins and the Arcade Fire because their lyrics are both distinct and open to interpretation, so their songs adapt to the situation of the listener. But I think Laika is just a song about having a brother who's a vampire. Because I can't put any other slant on it.
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« Reply #51 on: 13 May 2005, 10:52 »
Then it's about a hat, right?
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« Reply #52 on: 13 May 2005, 13:47 »
just wondering... would you guys rather listen to six hours of instrumental music or six hours of a-cappella?

yeah, good lyrics are a bonus, but they aren't neccesary. if they were, we'd just listen to every time i die and converge all day. not that there'd be anything wrong with that...
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« Reply #53 on: 13 May 2005, 13:57 »
It depends on what the instrumental/a capella music was. If the instrumental music was something good, like Mozart or something, then that probably. If it was really dull, and the a capella music was really awesome, like a barbershop quartet, or 'Caravan of Love' or something, then that.
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« Reply #54 on: 13 May 2005, 14:01 »
hmm... that was me being a jerk. i personally can't stand a-cappella. in fact, the only vocals i really dig are screaming. instrumental music is awesome, i think. vocals can ruin a song - look at alexisonfire, if they killed their singer and kept just the music and shouting, it'd be awesome. and fear before need to loose the singing too, it sucks.
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« Reply #55 on: 13 May 2005, 17:33 »
All Alexisonfire sucks.

But man, how can you do without the lyrics, they're so intefral? Sure, you can have a decent song, but it need definiton, it needs a human soul (which is why some industrail type stuff works I suppose) IT NEEDS MEANING. 99% of lyrics od the stuff I listen to RULE. I got into this shit because the lyrics were about killing dragons and blowing shit up and hate and lust and vengeance and raw human emotion and crap! Fuck all you whimpy little life changy bla crap. Man crap is an awesome word, vut cunt is more satisfying.
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« Reply #56 on: 13 May 2005, 19:34 »
This discussion seems far too either/or. Instrumental music can accomplish things music with lyrics cannot, because it lacks that focus of the lyrics to me it's capable of creating a much grander, all-encompassing effect. Music with lyrics can be far more intimate than instrumentals. And that's just how I react. Both are good, both have wide areas they can operate in.

Personally, what I think is a shame is that a lot of bands bother with lyrics when they're clearly no good at writing them. If you can't do it just use the voice as an instrument, it works much better than bad lyrics.
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« Reply #57 on: 13 May 2005, 22:59 »
I don't think anybody got the point I was trying to make...
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« Reply #58 on: 13 May 2005, 23:50 »
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But man, how can you do without the lyrics, they're so intefral?


From a musician's standpoint, you write music without considering adding lyrics to it. Musicians have a lot more freedom when they don't have to worry about someone warbling about whatever they feel is important over the music. This is just an observation from playing and writing with people.

Lyrics are good too. There is stuff I listen to because of the lyrics, but I still see them as just another instrument in compositions.


How many of those that say lyrics really aren't necessary play an instrument or have an orcheastral background?
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« Reply #59 on: 14 May 2005, 06:02 »
Even though Mogwai are not a groundbreakingly unique band (they had several influences), Come On Die Young is a very unique album.  I have not to this day heard a band in "mainstream" music (they had been hyped up by the NME and others up until this point, and Young Team was beginning to give them some level of exposure) who had the sheer balls to then come up with an album made up of over an hour of tension-building and ensure that they would never ever make it REALLY big.  I love the results, but it is certainly not an accurate representation of "indie rock".
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« Reply #60 on: 14 May 2005, 06:18 »
I just picked up goverment sessions. It is a wonderful album. Very interesting to hear them play live and pull that off as well as many of their studio tracks.
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« Reply #61 on: 14 May 2005, 07:03 »
I do like some instrumental bands very much. I just think that to dismiss lyrics totally is really stupid.

But then, in most of the lyrics of the bands I listen to, the thing the singer thinks important is impaling people or something.
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[22:25] Dovey: i don't get sigquoted much
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« Reply #62 on: 15 May 2005, 20:50 »
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From a musician's standpoint, you write music without considering adding lyrics to it. Musicians have a lot more freedom when they don't have to worry about someone warbling about whatever they feel is important over the music. This is just an observation from playing and writing with people.

Lyrics are good too. There is stuff I listen to because of the lyrics, but I still see them as just another instrument in compositions.


How many of those that say lyrics really aren't necessary play an instrument or have an orcheastral background?


Wow, after starting to read a thread about one of my favorite bands, I never would have thought it would stretch into a 'singers vs instrumentals' tiff.

I was getting ready to say basiclaly the same thing Druid just did here about the beginning of pg. 2.

Music is all interpreted different by different people.  Everyone has varying tastes, which is usually a given.  Vocals vs instrumentals just fits into that catagory.  
I listen to a lot of music that doesn't involve vocals, because words clutter the already clouded mind of mine.  I can listen to instrumental stuff 24/7 in the background and be perfectly happy with myself.

And I will also quote this line verbatim.
"Lyrics are good too. There is stuff I listen to because of the lyrics, but I still see them as just another instrument in compositions."

And yes, I am a musician with an extensive orchestral background.
I can tell you every note and every chorus and chord of many of my cds, but if you ask me what the name of the song is or what the opening line to such and such song, I'll be lost.

At concerts, I hum.
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« Reply #63 on: 15 May 2005, 21:03 »
On the original point of the topic, Kanno should try the Unicorns.

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« Reply #64 on: 15 May 2005, 21:49 »
Of course no one is going to believe you when you tell them it's just a hat.
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« Reply #65 on: 16 May 2005, 10:14 »
My hat is magical, I can pull a hat trick.

I like what I've heard by Mogwai and really like their weird Amish/Potato video for "Staneley Kubrick."
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