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zekterellium

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What is an instrument?
« Reply #50 on: 27 May 2005, 01:43 »

everything in the world is an instrument.
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What is an instrument?
« Reply #51 on: 27 May 2005, 07:21 »

...if you hit it hard enough, yeah...
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normz

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What is an instrument?
« Reply #52 on: 27 May 2005, 07:26 »

Lol that's funny cause i've always considered myself as an instrument as my vocal chords are usually capable of producing a fairly pleasing sound so if you hit me in the throat hard enough and i scream is that music ........ or am i just opening a whole new bucket of worms in the 'voice as an instrument debate'
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oddball318

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What is an instrument?
« Reply #53 on: 27 May 2005, 09:45 »

no arguement from me, voice is most certainly an instrument.  A good example of nonlyrical vocals is a lot of the stuff Bobby McFerrin has been doing in jazz circles post-his-days-as-a-one-hit-wonder.  I've heard a couple recordings of him and Herbie Hancock trading riffs, also stuff like him doing imitative accompaniment with Yo Yo Ma on a Flight of the Bumblebee cut.
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What is an instrument?
« Reply #54 on: 27 May 2005, 11:51 »

Quote from: MilkmanDan
Assuming you are refering to your lack of knowledge on scratch notation, it's here: http://www.battlesounds.com/transcription/ttm.pdf It's a PDF, so, yeah.
If you were talking about something else, then meh.


Shit, that is awesome.
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capnk8

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What is an instrument?
« Reply #55 on: 27 May 2005, 14:56 »

There are piano grades in the UK? Bizarre... well, since we seem to be having a pissing contest of qualifications, here are mine. I've played piano for 19 years, been a piano teacher and competitor, and am currently employed by a university music department. Also, I have two degrees in English with instruction in linguistics. None of this means jack about the quality of my opinion, but hopefully it will assure those-who-care that I am not a total dimwit.

Okay. (Deep breath.)

I never read the start of this discussion on another thread, so forgive me if I miss a point. But it looks to me as though the person who started this thread is asking "what defines an instrument," and most of the respondents are answering "what defines a piano." This all comes down to a matter of semantics. No one goes out of their way to say acoustic guitar, unless they are trying to differentiate it from an electric guitar. There's no reason to specifically say "acoustic piano" unless you need to differentiate between it and a synthetic, digital, or electric piano. Otherwise, most people are going to assume that "piano" refers to the sort you took lessons on, with the strings and hammers and whatnot. This is not right nor wrong, but a matter of linguistic preference. As a pianist, I wouldn't call a keyboard or a synthesizer a "piano"... unless I was playing said synthesizer in a band which did not have an acoustic piano, at which point I most certainly would, because we use shorthand in situations like that.

Anything that can make a sound can be used as a musical instrument. Take, for example, PDQ Bach's "Pervertimento for Bagpipes, Bicycle & Balloons". Yeah, it's a joke composition, but it's real, and it's music.

This whole thing seems to largely be a battle of semantics, and I can tell you that there are better things to fuss over. Don't be prescriptive grammarians! Language and its usage is a living, evolving creature, and there is no such thing as right and wrong -- merely typical, atypical, and varying degrees of social acceptability.
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What is an instrument?
« Reply #56 on: 27 May 2005, 15:06 »

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I never read the start of this discussion on another thread, so forgive me if I miss a point. But it looks to me as though the person who started this thread is asking "what defines an instrument," and most of the respondents are answering "what defines a piano."


The original debate was about what defines a piano. The originating question was asked with that in mind
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MilkmanDan

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What is an instrument?
« Reply #57 on: 27 May 2005, 15:17 »

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Shit, that is awesome.


Meh. It's quite a good solution looking for a problem really. I ain't a elite scratch DJ by any means, but I can do all of the techniques decribed in the notation, orbitals, flares, crabs, etc and I can't say I've ever really felt a wish to write down what I'm doing. It's a good attempt to move turntablism in a more classical musical direction, and the invisbl skratch pickls did write some quite tasty routines in it, but it's a bit pointless. You can hear what the scratches are just fine, its doing them that's the problem. Unfortunatly this system doesn't help in that area.
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« Reply #58 on: 27 May 2005, 16:30 »

On the note that I am not a DJ what so ever but would like to be it is awesome.  Though not that awesome I guess, I already forgot about it.
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