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« Reply #50 on: 11 Jun 2005, 00:49 »

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Or others can like what they like sans ostentation and that's okay with me and others can enjoy their ostentation and that's okay with me.


This is like saying "I like punk but I've never heard of the Clash."  You don't have to like them, but you damned well ought to know them.  This thread isn't "name your favorite album."  It is "name important indie rock must-haves."  Just as The Clash should be on any punk must-have list, VU should be on an indie must-have list.  End of story.
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« Reply #51 on: 11 Jun 2005, 13:23 »

Hang on, did someone just say The Get Up Kids were the pinnacle of Emotional Hardcore? I doubt the Get Up Kids have ever been near any hardcore in their life!
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« Reply #52 on: 11 Jun 2005, 14:06 »

If that's hardcore, ATDI is a rock covered with a chocolate shell.
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« Reply #53 on: 11 Jun 2005, 17:12 »

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Hang on, did someone just say The Get Up Kids were the pinnacle of Emotional Hardcore? I doubt the Get Up Kids have ever been near any hardcore in their life!


Actually, their keyboard player was the drummer from Coalesce and the two bands once released a split together where they covered each other's songs. Damn good record that, probably the best track the Get Up Kids ever recorded. But yeah, they're more indie emo pop sort of stuff (my, what a snappy genre name I've come up with) than emo hardcore.
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« Reply #54 on: 11 Jun 2005, 17:16 »

uhh... erm... well, I think rather than throw myself into this particular ring, I'll just get back to music suggestions :P

Death From Above 1979 - You're a Woman, I'm A Machine
Metric - Old World Underground, Where Are You Now?
any Coheed And Cambria (or Shabutie, the eponymous EP of the band that later changed its name to Coheed and Cambria), for the requisite prog bit (TMV having already been mentione, by sp2 I think)
Hot Hot Heat - Make Up The Breakdown
agreeing with others, I am here... Pink Floyd - Piper at the Gates of Dawn (or A Saucerful of Secrets... or both :))
Iron And Wine - Woman King EP

that should do, when combined with all the other good suggestions
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« Reply #55 on: 11 Jun 2005, 18:26 »

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Actually, their keyboard player was the drummer from Coalesce and the two bands once released a split together where they covered each other's songs.


That's the craziest thing I've heard all day!
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« Reply #56 on: 12 Jun 2005, 06:27 »

I was pretty damn surprised when I heard it too. Apparently they're all really good friends.
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« Reply #57 on: 12 Jun 2005, 13:40 »

Older stuff that I find somewhat essential:

Lush - Spooky or Split (I'd actually argue that Gala, the compilation of the first two EP's, is still their strongest material, but both of these are a bit more accessible).
The Stone Roses - Self-Titled
Stereolab - Mars Audiac Quintet
Pizzicato Five - Made in U.S.A.
Ride - Nowhere
Cocteau Twins - Heaven or Las Vegas

Daydream Nation certainly represents some of the best of Sonic Youth.  I might argue for Sister over Daydream, but it'd be close.
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« Reply #58 on: 12 Jun 2005, 15:39 »

I don't like this thread one iota.
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« Reply #59 on: 13 Jun 2005, 10:36 »

Yeah, I like being told how I'm suppose to enjoy things.  I like thinking for my self like everyone else.
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« Reply #60 on: 14 Jun 2005, 07:49 »

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Pick up as many label samplers and odd compliations you can find. You'll find cool bands that way. Don't worry about genere and some wil indeed suck...


Best advice I've seen here.
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« Reply #61 on: 14 Jun 2005, 12:07 »

Modest Mouse -- The Moon & Antarctica
Cursive -- The Storms of Early Summer: Semantics of Song
Pixies -- Doolittle
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« Reply #62 on: 14 Jun 2005, 22:38 »

Surfer Rosa is cooler than Doolittle.
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but the music sucks because the keyboards don't have the cold/mechanical sound they had but a wannabe techno sound that it's pathetic for Rammstein standars.

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« Reply #63 on: 15 Jun 2005, 07:33 »

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But hey, Tin Cans With Strings To You. Not everyone gets to write a record that good, so it's not like the guy's wasted his life.


Since I already used an ironic "fighting over the internet" joke, let's move on to the mature "agree to disagree" stage of our relationship (I know, I know, I'm a horrible hipster, I should be calling you names and shit).

However, I definitly agree about Tin Cans. It's a freaking tremendous album. Definitly a highlight of Jonahs career.
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« Reply #64 on: 15 Jun 2005, 07:41 »

In The Aisle Yelling is boss.
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« Reply #65 on: 15 Jun 2005, 08:52 »

Neutral Milk Hotel-whatever album has 'everything' on it, i forgot what it's called
hot hot heat-fuck i can never remember album names
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« Reply #66 on: 15 Jun 2005, 10:27 »

Bright Eyes - Lifted, Or: The Story Is In The Soil, Keep Your Ear To The Ground
Modest Mouse - The Moon & Antarctica
The Arcade Fire - Funeral
Broken Social Scene - You Forgot It In People
Wilco - Yankee Hotel Foxtrot
Interpol - Turn On The Bright Lights
The Books - Lost And Safe
Death Cab For Cutie - The Photo Album
Jimmy Eat World - Clarity
Cursive -The Ugly Organ
Radiohead - Kid A
Appleseed Cast - Low Level Owl: vl. 1
M83 - Before The Dawn Heals Us
Nick Drake - Pink Moon
Brand New - Deja Entendu
Phantom Planet - Phantom Planet
Snowglobe - Our Land Brains
The Brunettes - Mars Loves Venus
The Russian Futurists - Let's Get Ready To Crumble
The Flaming Lips - Yoshimi Battles The Pink Space Robots
Built To Spill - There's Nothing Wrong With Love
The Detroit Cobras - Love, Life, And Leaving
Pretty Girls Make Graves - The New Romance
Sufjan Stevens - Illinois
The Human Television - The Human Television
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« Reply #67 on: 15 Jun 2005, 17:48 »

No no no no NO.

Something About Airplanes and We Have the Facts and We're Voting Yes >>>>>>>>>> The Photo Album

Otherwise...

I'll add Modest Mouse's Lonesome Crowded West to my list, as that's basically a collection of everything that's good about Indie rock.
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« Reply #68 on: 15 Jun 2005, 18:13 »

Saturnine - you've pretty much summarized what's been awesome about the last decade in music.
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« Reply #69 on: 15 Jun 2005, 19:43 »

Skyclad - Split 7" with Lemming Project
Skyclad - The Wayward Sons Of Mother Earth
Skyclad - A Burnt Offering For The Bone Idol
Skyclad - Tracks From The Wilderness
Skyclad - Thinking Allowed?
Skyclad - Jonah's Ark
Skyclad - Prince of the Poverty Line
Skyclad - The Silent Whales of Lunar Sea
Skyclad - Old Rope
Skyclad - Irrational Anthems
Skyclad - Oui Avant-Garde a Chance
Skyclad - The Answer Machine?
Skyclad - Outrageous Fourtunes EP
Skyclad - Vintage Whine
Skyclad - Classix Shape
Skyclad - Folkémon
Skyclad - History Lessens
Skyclad - Another Fine Mess
Skyclad - Swords of a Thousand Men
Skyclad - No Daylights... Nor Heel Taps
Skyclad - Live At The Dynamo
Skyclad - A Semblance Of Normality

No. Fo' real. Start at the beginning, go on till you get to the end.
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« Reply #70 on: 15 Jun 2005, 20:22 »

Keeping with my normal theme.

The Residents - Meet the Residents
The Residents - Not Available
The Residents - The Third Reich N' Roll
The Residents - Fingerprince
The Residents - Duck Stab/Buster and Glen
The Residents - Eskimo
The Residents - Commercial Album
The Residents - Mark of the Mole
The Residents - The Tunes of Two Cities
The Residents - Intermission
The Residents - The Big Bubble
The Residents - God in Three Persons
The Residents - The King and Eye
The Residents - Cube-E: Live in Holland
The Residents - Freak Show
The Residents - Wormwood
The Residents - Animal Lover.

You should be set by then. I prefer to go from first to latest, but reverse works too.
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« Reply #71 on: 15 Jun 2005, 21:32 »

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Surfer Rosa is cooler than Doolittle.[/quote}
Thank you Steve Albini
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« Reply #72 on: 15 Jun 2005, 22:20 »

Even though if you've read anything Albini's ever written he's a dick about it and doesn't even really like the album. Morose asshole.
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« Reply #73 on: 15 Jun 2005, 22:41 »

Doin' the Khar and Kai thing:

(in chronological order)

Ottowa Bonesaw - The Sugarplastic
Sheep / Superball - The Sugarplastic
The Sugarplastic - The Sugarplastic
Radio Jejune - The Sugarplastic
Bang, The Earth Is Round - The Sugarplastic
Polly Brown - The Sugarplastic
Montebello / Polly Brown - The Sugarplastic
Resin - The Sugarplastic
Primitive Plastic - The Sugarplastic
7x7x7 (7 individual 7" 2 track records) - The Sugarplastic
Will - The Sugarplastic

They are incredible.
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« Reply #74 on: 15 Jun 2005, 23:01 »

I forgot:

Tilly And The Wall - Wild Like Children
Spoon - Gimme Fiction
The Avalanches - Since I Left You
And You Will Know Us By The Trail Of Dead - Source Tags And Codes
Architecture In Helsinki - Fingers Crossed
Bear Vs. Shark - Right Now, You're In The Best Of Hands And If Something Isn't Quite Right Yr Doctor Will Know In A Hurry
Ben Kweller - Sha Sha
Clinic - Walking With Thee
The Decemeberists - Castaways And Cutouts
Explosions In The Sky - How Strange, Innocence
The Faint - Wet From Birth
The Go! Team - Thunder Lightning Strike
The Honorary Title - Anything Else But The Truth
Kanda - All The Good Meetings Are Taken
Kings Of Leon - Youth And Young Manhood
Les Savy Fav - Inches
Stars - Set Yourself On Fire
The Stills - Logic Will Break Your Heart
Thunderbirds Are Now! - Justamastache
TV On The Radio - Desperate Youth, Bloodthirsty Babes
The Unicorns - Who Will Cut Our Hair When We're Gone?


Ok, I'm done this time. I promise.
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« Reply #75 on: 17 Jun 2005, 05:45 »

Not entirely indie, but I have to heartily recommend:

Four Tet - Rounds
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Godspeed You! Black Emperor - Lift Yr Skinny Fists Like Antennas to Heaven
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« Reply #76 on: 17 Jun 2005, 06:04 »

any cd with dick dale's Miserlou. period.

the greatest song ever.
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« Reply #77 on: 17 Jun 2005, 06:16 »

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Saturnine - you've pretty much summarized what's been awesome about the last decade in music.


Although I'm interested to know why you would choose Before the Dawn Heals Us over Dead Cities, Red Seas and Lost Ghosts for an M83 "must have."  I actually heard Before the Dawn first and was  ready to dismiss them as a more pretentious Vangelis rip off, but someone suggested I listen to the previous album.
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« Reply #78 on: 17 Jun 2005, 10:16 »

I don't know, I guess Before The Dawn Heals Us just feels like more of a cohesive album for me. Don't get me wrong, Dead Cities, Red Seas and Lost Ghosts absolutely blew me away, and I would reccomend it highly, but I don't enjoy the whole album through the way I do with Befor the Dawn. I could listen to "Run Into Flowers" until my heart stops, but the album just isn't as coherent or consistent.

I don't think you can go wrong with either album though.
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« Reply #79 on: 18 Jun 2005, 12:37 »

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Slayer - Reign in Blood
Black Sabbath - Paranoid
Judas Priest - British Steel
Iron Maiden - Powerslave
Mercyful Fate - Don't Break the Oath
Venom - Black Metal
Bathory - Under the Sign of the Black Mark
Mayhem - De Mysteriis Dom Sathanas
Darkthrone - Transilvanian Hunger
Entombed - Left Hand Path

Oh wait! That's not an indie li...


Unbelievably, I own all of those albums except for British Steel (which I probably WILL download now, all things considered).  And I also agree about Reign In Blood being on the top of the list.

Speak English Or Die is also essential as far as hardcore/thrash albums go.  Has anyone heard D.R.I.'s Dealing With It?  I'm about to download it and am curious to hear some thoughts on the matter...
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« Reply #80 on: 18 Jun 2005, 13:04 »

Well of course, that's just a bare list for the uninitiated. A more complete list would have added:

Stormtroopers of Death - Speak English or Die
Running Wild - Under Jolly Roger
Carpahtian Forest - Morbid Fascination of Death
My Dying Bride - Turn Loose the Swans
Ulver - Nattens Madrigal: Aatte Hymne Til Ulven I Manden
Sabbat - History of a Time to Come
Paradise Lost - Gothic
Count Nosferatu Kommando - Ultraviolence Uber Alles
Celtic Frost - To Mega Therion
Orange Goblin - Frequencies From Planet Ten
3 Inches of Blood - Advance & Vanquish
Ancient Rites - Dim Carcosa
Finntroll - Midnattens Widunder
Children of Bodom - Hatebreeder
Blut Aus Nord - The Work Which Transforms God
Ewigkeit - Radio Ixtlan
Skyclad - The Wayward Sons of Mother Earth
Bloodbath - Breeding Death EP
Aborym - With No Human Intervention
Death - Human
Emperor - In the Nightside Eclipse
Hammerfall - Glory to the Brave
Theatre of Tragedy - Velvet Darkness They Fear
Candlemass - Epicus Doomicus Metallicus
Burzum - Burzum
Dark Tranquillity - The Gallery
Samael - Worship Him
Immortal - Battles in the North
Cradle of Filth - Vempire EP
Electric Wizard - Dopethrone
Therion - Theli
Tankard - Chemical Invasion

and a ton more. But seriously, that ^ audial feast of awesomeness, and a good set of bookmarks, sea-changes, comparisons, oft-copied efforts and simply fucking good music, although it lacks depth in death metal and thrash particularly, and has some more personal choices.
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« Reply #81 on: 18 Jun 2005, 19:05 »

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All you missed was DFA1979, I think, but it mighta been mentioned earlier.
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« Reply #82 on: 18 Jun 2005, 21:09 »

Johnny C... when did I say that?

DFA1979 is a great band, though. I don't know if I would put them on my "must have" list, but I thoroughly enjoy them nonetheless.
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« Reply #83 on: 22 Jun 2005, 13:34 »

I'll avoid getting into the requisite debate over which Pixies or Pavement album is really the definitive one.  But allow me to throw in a couple that have not been mentioned.  

R.E.M. -- Murmur.  I may be biased here suggesting this one, but it is a fantastic album.  This album, along with Automatic for the People, are considered their two best albums.  Murmur pretty much ushered in the "college rock" movement of the 80s.  They were a very unconventional band at the time.  Peter Buck wasn't a true lead guitarist and you've got Michael Stipes oh-so-unintelligible lyrics.  It's a very good album.

I also didn't see any Elvis Costello in there.  My Aim is True or This Year's Model are both great albums.  Most of his albums have been re-released and are packed-full of auditory extras.

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« Reply #84 on: 22 Jun 2005, 14:02 »

My friend's sister is a big REM fan. Knowing this, I set off on a task to bug the hell out of her. It took one sentence.



"REM? Those guys are Hippies."


Well, technically two, but who's counting?


But yeah, that combined with after me saying I hated Weezer makes her think I have no taste in music.

Also, I really have no actual opinion on REM. Never listened to them. I just like bugging my friend's sister.
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« Reply #85 on: 22 Jun 2005, 14:41 »

Yeah, my friend thinks I have bad taste because I don't think Beck's Guerro is the best album ever.

See what I have to deal with? I'm not even sure why we're still friends. XP
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« Reply #86 on: 24 Jun 2005, 21:23 »

Well, most of the stuff that's already been said is awesome, but here's a few things that I think were left off.

Anything by the Fall, but especially "Hex Enduction Hour"

Also, The first six Elvis Costello CDs (My Aim is True, This Year's Model, Armed Forces, Get Happy, Trust, Imperial Bedroom)

And I might have missed it, but I didn't see any Bjork either. Get anything by her, it all rules.
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« Reply #87 on: 24 Jun 2005, 22:11 »

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Well, most of the stuff that's already been said is awesome, but here's a few things that I think were left off.

Anything by the Fall, but especially "Hex Enduction Hour"

Also, The first six Elvis Costello CDs (My Aim is True, This Year's Model, Armed Forces, Get Happy, Trust, Imperial Bedroom)

And I might have missed it, but I didn't see any Bjork either. Get anything by her, it all rules.


Mmm...to give my PERSONAL opinion (as in, what I personally think and not meant in any way to be taken as gospel because there seems to be a disconnect in this thread with expressing opinion and giving a command), I'd say that Life's Too Good by the Sugarcubes is definately worth a listen, as are Post and Vespertine as well as the remix albums.   Debut isn't bad, but many of the songs still had a "Sugarcubes" ring to them, as if she hadn't quite found her style yet.  Homogenic, which I think is stylistically some of her finest work (due largely in part to Mark Bell), suffers from lyrical ineptitude (a lot of the songs sound like something a wounded teenager would write in a bad poetry journal kept under his/her pillow), and while none of her songs are lyrically brilliant, I think I was expecting more from this album because it was such a leap from her previous work..  Medulla was an interesting experiment, but pushes the boundaries for eccentricities a bit too much.

At least, that's what I think.
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« Reply #88 on: 25 Jun 2005, 02:53 »

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Johnny C... when did I say that?

You didn't, I just summarized your second list into one sentence.
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« Reply #89 on: 25 Jun 2005, 05:53 »

In retrospect, DFA1979 should be on my must-have list. "Cold War" convinced me the other day.
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« Reply #90 on: 25 Jun 2005, 06:27 »

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Not entirely indie, but I have to heartily recommend:

Four Tet - Rounds
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Godspeed You! Black Emperor - Lift Yr Skinny Fists Like Antennas to Heaven


I HIGHLY agree. Rounds is sucha wicked album, so random and trippy. And Saturnine, your lists kicked an incredible amount of booty, too. Good job.
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« Reply #91 on: 25 Jun 2005, 08:05 »

I think just to make sure...

Fugazi - 13 Songs
Bear Vs. Shark - Terrorhawk
Built to Spill - Perfect From Now On
Cursive - The Ugly Organ

and whatever else is on that big list. XP
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« Reply #92 on: 25 Jun 2005, 21:44 »

Another cool band is Morphine. It's got no guitar, but it's got that slide bass and saxaphone stuff. I like "Good" the best, but everyone else says "cure for pain". Whatever. They both rule.
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« Reply #93 on: 26 Jun 2005, 18:52 »

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Fugazi - 13 Songs


Much as I love that record, I personally reckon Repeater was them basically going over the same ground but with much greater success. There's something just a little too loose about 13 Songs.
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« Reply #94 on: 26 Jun 2005, 22:22 »

my list:
lift yr skinny fists like antennas to heaven - godspeed you! black emperor (best post rock album of all time.)
belle and sebastian - boy with the arab strap/dear catastrophe waitress (delightful brit-pop)
olivia tremor control - dusk at the cubist castle (like beatles if they wore vintage t-shirts and had synthesizers.)
pavement - slanted and enchanted (my favorite pavement album.  should be yours too.)
the silver jews - american water (great album, was so good it broke up pavement.  silly stephen malkmus)
the moutain goats - all hail west texas/tallahasee (great great great albums.  lofi-indie-folk for the soul.)
mirah - c'mon miracle (you will get a crush on her, despite her being "mostly gay")
mogwai - come on die young (also amazing post rock.)
xiu xiu - fabulous muscles  (music to creep out your roommate to.)
sufjan stevens - illinois (if only for john wayne gacy.  so creepy!)
sebadoh - harmacy (good times.)
ryan adams - heartbreaker ("he's got a mouf full o' cookies."  it will make you feel better about the debacle that is rock n roll)
neutral milk hotel - in an aeroplane over the sea  (musical sex.  hands down best nmh album)
i could go on and on, but i shan't.  i left out lots of contemporary things, just because you can go on pitchfork and read up.  although tinymixtapes is far superior!
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« Reply #95 on: 26 Jun 2005, 22:35 »

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lift yr skinny fists like antennas to heaven - godspeed you! black emperor (best post rock album of all time.)


I guess that depends on your flavor of post-rock. Don't get me wrong, I definitely dig the album, but it's a beast to listen to. I usually play it ambiently.

I prefer Do Make Say Think or Explosions In The Sky. I guess because both bands seem to have more dynamics in a short period of time (6 minutes or so), whereas GY!BE stretches each piece way out.

Have you heard A Silver Mt. Zion? I think you'd probably like them.
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« Reply #96 on: 26 Jun 2005, 22:49 »

i have indeed!  gybe is a bit of a challenge sometimes, i used to feel like i wasn't quite getting it, as trite as that sounds, but one day i was listening to lift yr skinny fists and it just sort of made sense, hence my appreciation.  incedentally, one of my favorite moments ever involving godspeed involved reading harry potter, and it timed perfectly with the climax of the action and song.  disconcerting, really.
p.s.- yo la tengo's prisoners of love is a great intro to indie, it ranges all over the place.  i am a fan.
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« Reply #97 on: 26 Jun 2005, 23:06 »

i had a simlar moment with GY!BE. my friend has always been a big fan, so i gave em a listen. i remember being unimpressed and kind of bored. one day "Static" or "Storm" (can't remember) came on random and i loved it. it can be difficult, but it's definitely worth it. you have to hear each song in its entirety or you'll miss the point.
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« Reply #98 on: 27 Jun 2005, 03:39 »

GY!BE are alright, but they sure ain't the best. You want to hit up Explosions in the Sky, 65daysofstatic or Mogwai for the post-rock lovin'.
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« Reply #99 on: 27 Jun 2005, 04:48 »

65daysofstatic are post-rock now? They must have changed a lot, I saw them a few months back and they were just pretty average indie. Nice to know they've changed direction, I'll give them another shot now.
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