Topic: JOY DIVISION appreciation thread. (Read 19646 times)

i am richard and you suck · « **on:** 26 Jul 2005, 20:19 »

hands down, one of the best bands ever.

seriously. there is just no way that anyone could NOT like this band.

est · « **Reply #1 on:** 26 Jul 2005, 21:00 »

i don't really like them all that much, but if you do then that's great!

Kanno · « **Reply #2 on:** 26 Jul 2005, 21:18 »

I never liked them that much either.

And, no, richard. You suck.

Inlander · « **Reply #3 on:** 26 Jul 2005, 21:27 »

I like 'em. Can't stand New Order, though, and the early Joy Division singles (pre-Ian Curtis) are pretty ordinary. But then Curtis came along and they became one arse-kicking band. Shame about the suicide. "Transmission" is one of the great songs of the era - like a desperate, slightly manic English response to the Modern Lovers' "Roadrunner".

Kid Amnesiac · « **Reply #4 on:** 26 Jul 2005, 22:14 »

Not a fan.

Threatis · « **Reply #5 on:** 26 Jul 2005, 22:15 »

Big fan of both Joy Division AND New Order.

my favorite Song is Warsaw

anyone ever hear what Joy Division Stands for? It was the name that Nazi officers gave to the jewish prostitutes in the Concentration Camps.

Inlander · « **Reply #6 on:** 26 Jul 2005, 22:19 »

Seriousy Kid Amnesiac, it's cool that you're not a fan but that picture is just unbelievably tasteless.

SeanBateman · « **Reply #7 on:** 26 Jul 2005, 22:21 »

I am a fan and I think that picture is AWESOME

Kid Amnesiac · « **Reply #8 on:** 26 Jul 2005, 22:26 »

Quote from: Inlander

Seriousy Kid Amnesiac, it's cool that you're not a fan but that picture is just unbelievably tasteless.

SeanBateman:

Thank you.

Inlander · « **Reply #9 on:** 26 Jul 2005, 22:56 »

You don't like me, fine. Don't make it public though, that just leads to threads getting locked and other people's fun being ruined.

SeanBateman · « **Reply #10 on:** 26 Jul 2005, 23:05 »

Kid Amnesiac, Do not be mean to inlander. He has been here longer than you, and that picture could be considered pretty offensive by some. I liked it, but others may not

est · « **Reply #11 on:** 26 Jul 2005, 23:39 »

it's got little to do with who was here first and more to do with treating people nicely so that you don't get fucking banned. seriously Kid A, don't be a fucking cock.

grrraham · « **Reply #12 on:** 27 Jul 2005, 01:52 »

People are ridiculous.
It's a picture of a dead rock star portraying him as, well, dead.

Threatis · « **Reply #13 on:** 27 Jul 2005, 02:18 »

I'm a fan, and thought it quite funny.

it's a JOKE, about a person who commited suicide. I hear Kurt Cobain jokes all the time, and I dont get my panties in a twist.

Praeserpium Machinarum · « **Reply #14 on:** 27 Jul 2005, 02:30 »

Well I thought it was tasteless, and I am not a fan, I only like Love Will Tear Us Apart mildly. It's a funny thing actually, it sounded better in my head than in reality, akin to the thing I have with songs I haven't heard in awhile and then they are going too fast or too slow as to the version I remembered... Odd that...

Saturday · « **Reply #15 on:** 27 Jul 2005, 04:51 »

I´m a BIG fan. it´s one of my Top10 bands ever. with New Order.
Early Joy Division had some of the best punk songs ever. And the first 3 NO Albums were brilliant.
It´s a band were every member (drummer, bassist, guitarist, and vocalist) was truly original in their work. they paved down their own road.

KharBevNor · « **Reply #16 on:** 27 Jul 2005, 05:07 »

Oh come on people.

Even I like Joy Division.

Miroku · « **Reply #17 on:** 27 Jul 2005, 05:30 »

Dude! im all about fuckin Joy Division!
i was in a JD cover band till i realized i cant sing for shit..

i am richard and you suck · « **Reply #18 on:** 27 Jul 2005, 07:39 »

the picture IS tasteless (who cares) and not really funny (again, who cares)

well... i never really could get into new order.

@kanno: blame the meatmen. i already cleared this up.

Kid Amnesiac · « **Reply #19 on:** 27 Jul 2005, 11:41 »

Jesus you people need to lighten the fuck up. Seriously, it's a fucking picture. To those who found it funny; good for you. And what does it matter if somone's been here longer than someone else? There's no such thing as message board seniority. Stupid.

On topic: I fucking hate Joy Division and New Order. But I do love 'Age of Consent'. Outside of that.... balls.

Kai · « **Reply #20 on:** 27 Jul 2005, 21:38 »

Joy Division = awesome. I hate to admit it at some points, call it a guilty pleasure. Not exactly sure why.

5thWheel · « **Reply #21 on:** 28 Jul 2005, 05:17 »

IMHO "Still" is the best album, if you are going to listen to anything by them listen to that (I know nothing technical about music, just that is the one that spent most time in my walkman when I was in my final yr @ uni.. that & "The Downward Spiral" pretty much continuously whenever I was not in lectures & it felt *fabulous*)

onewheelwizzard · « **Reply #22 on:** 28 Jul 2005, 12:33 »

I never listened to Joy Division, but I get the impression that I wouldn't like them that much. Fans of them, recommend to me an album to download! I want to know whether they're shitty wankers, appreciably good, or world-alteringly amazing (my hunch is that they land somewhere between the former two but I'm refraining from making that assumption).

KharBevNor · « **Reply #23 on:** 28 Jul 2005, 12:43 »

'Permanent' is their best best-of.

Saturday · « **Reply #24 on:** 28 Jul 2005, 13:13 »

Quote from: KharBevNor

'Permanent' is their best best-of.

mmm i would´t recommend it.
they have 2 albums. that´s it. and then lots of singles and b-sides

so if you get the albums ("unknown pleasures" and "closer") and the singles compilation ("substance") you will have most of the stuff..

the most accesible album IMHO is actually the singles compilation, lot of great tracks, an it has "love will tear us apart" (the most famous joy division song) and "atmosphere", and lots of other gems.

ASturge · « **Reply #25 on:** 28 Jul 2005, 13:21 »

Quote from: Kid Amnesiac

Quote from: Inlander
Seriousy Kid Amnesiac, it's cool that you're not a fan but that picture is just unbelievably tasteless.

SeanBateman:

Thank you.

Wow

You're a bit of a dick.

AnonymousPosterChild · « **Reply #26 on:** 28 Jul 2005, 13:25 »

As somebody whos probably never conciously heard anything by them, can you recommend something thats a good representation of their music?

Saturday · « **Reply #27 on:** 28 Jul 2005, 13:28 »

listen to these songs:

Disorder
Atmosphere
Love Will Tear Us Apart
Warzaw
Digital

that will give you an idea.

thehoopiestfrood · « **Reply #28 on:** 28 Jul 2005, 14:04 »

I love Joy Division so much.

My friend however had the funniest lament the other day. She was sitting there moaning about how she loved him and she said in the most melodramatic voice ever: "But he died 25 years ago. He had killed himself before I was even born. It was never meant to be." and sighed.

happybirthdaygelatin · « **Reply #29 on:** 28 Jul 2005, 14:11 »

I like them and lament my lost of my copy of Permenent.

Kid Modernist · « **Reply #30 on:** 28 Jul 2005, 14:34 »

I love Joy Division. My favorite tracks are Love Will Tear us Apart (I don't care if it's cliche man.), Day of Lords, and 24 Hours.

And I think Transmission is kind of boring. I don't get why a lot of people say it's the best ever.

5thWheel · « **Reply #31 on:** 28 Jul 2005, 23:37 »

"New Dawn Fades" is easily my favourite song; there is also a Moby cover of it floating around, his voice is all scratchy and upset sounding: smashing & startling at the same time.
& pah @ LWTUA, sounds just like New Order (*dives for cover*

)

lastclearchance · « **Reply #32 on:** 29 Jul 2005, 09:57 »

Joy Division are pretty good, but I'm kind of tired of every music magazine ever doing a feature on Ian Curtis whenever they've got extra pages to fill. I'm pretty sure I read essentially the same article three times before I started skipping anything ever written about Ian Curtis.

On the other hand, 24 Hour Party People is a hilarious movie.

DeathrockZombie · « **Reply #33 on:** 29 Jul 2005, 12:44 »

Man, I liked JD back when the only kids that liked them wore eyeliner and fishnets!

Now, not so much... Though I do LOVE

JAH DIVISION.

It's a dubreggae tribue to JD, has anyone heard it? Dub Will Tear Us Apart, is awesome!

~ B

Saturday · « **Reply #34 on:** 29 Jul 2005, 13:28 »

Quote from: DeathrockZombie

Man, I liked JD back when the only kids that liked them wore eyeliner and fishnets!

Now, not so much... Though I do LOVE

JAH DIVISION.

It's a dubreggae tribue to JD, has anyone heard it? Dub Will Tear Us Apart, is awesome!

~ B

they are actually two bands called jah division.
one is a dubreggae tribute to JD, and other is a Russian Reggae band. i only heard the 2nd one, and is actually pretty good ^^

Hector Gilbert · « **Reply #35 on:** 29 Jul 2005, 22:40 »

Quote from: onewheelwizzard

I never listened to Joy Division, but I get the impression that I wouldn't like them that much. Fans of them, recommend to me an album to download! I want to know whether they're shitty wankers, appreciably good, or world-alteringly amazing (my hunch is that they land somewhere between the former two but I'm refraining from making that assumption).

Listen to Unknown Pleasures, when they were a band that rocked. The first song everyone should hear of Joy Division's is the first track from the first album ("Disorder") as far as I'm concerned. It's dark, not really moany and depressing, but cool in a dark kind of way.

Snapman · « **Reply #36 on:** 05 Aug 2005, 06:02 »

Joy Division were brilliant, and 'Closer' is quite comfortably in my top 5 albums of all time.

Early New Order are pretty good too. 'Power, Lies & Corruption' is a fine album by them.

call it glitter · « **Reply #37 on:** 06 Aug 2005, 15:42 »

Love Will Tear Us Apart is one of the very few songs that makes me physically dance.

MirLong · « **Reply #38 on:** 13 Aug 2005, 12:36 »

I love Joy Division. Failures and Shadowplay are my favorite songs. Anyone who likes them should watch 24 Hour Party People. It's a movie about the original manchester music scene. Joy Division, Sex Pistols, Buzzcocks, etc... are in it.

Merkava · « **Reply #39 on:** 13 Aug 2005, 14:33 »

Quote from: i am richard and you suck

hands down, one of the best bands ever.

seriously. there is just no way that anyone could NOT like this band.

What about the fact that Ian couldn't carry a note? Like, at all?

Still so much better than New Order. This is one of those cases where I prefer the follower (Interpol) to the original.

Sorry to troll.

ramenXnoodles · « **Reply #40 on:** 14 Aug 2005, 21:40 »

I only have Unknown Pleasures, but I love JD.

Jed · « **Reply #41 on:** 18 Aug 2005, 23:27 »

After quickly scrolling through the above I would recommend the movie 24 hour party people for everyone. It's kind of an document about Joy Division, New Order... etcetera.

Johnny C · « **Reply #42 on:** 19 Aug 2005, 00:18 »

Joy Division had the ability to be both completely jagged, angular, dissonant music and really sweeping, beautiful stuff, and sometimes they combined the two. Love 'em so much.

Saturday · « **Reply #43 on:** 19 Aug 2005, 07:12 »

Quote from: Jed

After quickly scrolling through the above I would recommend the movie 24 hour party people for everyone. It's kind of an document about Joy Division, New Order... etcetera.

i honestly didn´t liked it. it was ok for all the joy division and happy monday scenes, but the movie, in fact, sucked for me. probably better to see a JD live video.

Merkava · « **Reply #44 on:** 19 Aug 2005, 09:11 »

I actually got back into JD. After getting used to Curtis' voice, I see the awesomeness of both albums.

Disorder is my favorite song by them, and has always been.

Saturday · « **Reply #45 on:** 19 Aug 2005, 10:09 »

Quote from: Merkava

Disorder is my favorite song by them, and has always been.

best bassline ever:

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Merkava · « **Reply #46 on:** 19 Aug 2005, 13:31 »

I mean, really, it's their only song like that. It was perfect. It was bare, no keyboards, no unneeded instruments, just a alarm-like guitar and awesome bassline, with Curtis' voice at it's best. It's just an awesome song, period.

tetsuotheironboy · « **Reply #47 on:** 25 Aug 2005, 15:19 »

can't say i'm a huge fan but of the more well known tracks, 'atmosphere' and 'she's lost control' are excellent songs. His voice grates a little bit but thats just a matter of taste, as songwriters and in terms of their musical influence, nuff respect to joy division

I would include love will tear us apart but due to my pathetically low tolerance for overplayed music i can't listen to that tune anymore. Also in the film series 7: the contenders, its used by two high school art students as the soundtrack to an incredibly gothy film featuring lots of running down corridors into mirrors and frilly clothing. Now i can't listen to it without picturing that and laughing. *prays for forgiveness from mr curtis*

Not An Addict · « **Reply #48 on:** 25 Aug 2005, 16:16 »

Both bands are insanely overrated. JD are too mopey for my taste, plus there's the fact that anyone who drops their name is automatically hipper than everyone else in the room. New Order were far less pretentious, but their songs are really hit-or-miss. "Blue Monday" and "Bizarre Love Triangle" are nothing short of genius, but everything else? I swear, every time I hear "Confusion" I lose a brain cell.

Merkava · « **Reply #49 on:** 26 Aug 2005, 07:55 »

If anything, I feel New Order was the more pretentious band. There was just something about them...

Anyway, I'm listening to Unknown Pleasures again. Yeah, I think it wins over Closer.

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Author Topic: JOY DIVISION appreciation thread. (Read 19646 times)

i am richard and you suck

Kanno

Kid Amnesiac

Threatis

SeanBateman

Kid Amnesiac

SeanBateman

grrraham

Threatis

Praeserpium Machinarum

Saturday

i am richard and you suck

Kid Amnesiac

5thWheel

Saturday

ASturge

AnonymousPosterChild

Saturday

thehoopiestfrood

Kid Modernist

5thWheel

DeathrockZombie

Saturday

Hector Gilbert

Snapman

call it glitter

MirLong

Merkava

ramenXnoodles

Saturday

Merkava

Saturday

Merkava

tetsuotheironboy

Not An Addict

Merkava