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« on: 14 Aug 2005, 20:57 »

Ok, so someone asks about a band they don't know a lot about or would like to start listening to or some other reason. This thread is for people who know about the band to help out those who don't. Fill this out for the person then post a band that you want to know about.

Band Name:

Genre:

Your Rating Of Them (1-10):

Best Album:

Songs:
      - Best All Around:
      - Loudest/Hardest/Most Rockin':
      - Most Relaxing:
      - Most Played/A song by them you may have heard:
      - Song That Best Represents The Band:

Bands Like This Band:

Coolest Thing About This Band:


I realized the other day that I don't know a damn thing about Godspeed You! Black Emperor.
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« Reply #1 on: 14 Aug 2005, 21:54 »

Land ahoy, cap'n!  It appears to be populated by outrageous music snobs!

I hope I'm wrong.
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« Reply #2 on: 14 Aug 2005, 21:59 »

Just putting in my two cents. I must say, i like these type of threads much better than the normal, this band sucks, this band rocks back and forth banter that all the threads in this forum seem to go through. So, yay to you :-)
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« Reply #3 on: 14 Aug 2005, 22:26 »

All music discussions devolves into yelling at eachother.
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« Reply #4 on: 14 Aug 2005, 22:43 »

Er, I'd like to know more about Garbage and Led Zeppelin... so whoever's out there who can suggest some albums/songs, it would be appreciated. I realize that this thread is probably more about posting the answers rather than the questions, but I didn't know where else to post.
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« Reply #5 on: 14 Aug 2005, 23:18 »

I am bookmarking this thread incredi-much.
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« Reply #6 on: 15 Aug 2005, 06:28 »

Practicality: about Zeppelin, a few songs I'd reccomend just to get you into it: Immigrant Song (Bonus points if it's the live version from When the West Was Won, because that rules), Black Dog maybe, and probably Stairway to Heaven too.
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« Reply #7 on: 15 Aug 2005, 08:42 »

Band Name: Led Zepplin

Genre: Rock

Your Rating Of Them (1-10): 10

Best Album: Most say Led Zepplin IV, but I would recommend the How The West Was Won (Live) or the 2-part Greatest Hits they have out (Early Days/Later Days)
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« Reply #8 on: 15 Aug 2005, 08:51 »

How the West Was Won is a damned good live album.
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« Reply #9 on: 15 Aug 2005, 09:40 »

How about "Going To California"? Definitely one of my Led Zep favorites, along with those already named. Ooh and "Gallow's Pole", like that one too.

But that's just me. I think that's the problem with recommendations from others: it's just a person's opinion most times. So what I do is try to pick up on bands/songs people are talking about around here, and check up on them myself. Got to know some good stuff that way already, so thanks a bunch, QC community! :)
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« Reply #10 on: 15 Aug 2005, 10:53 »

Yeah, how the west was one is kickass, but it would be more kickass if people DID THE THREAD RIGHT! Read the first post hombres and hombrettas...
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« Reply #11 on: 15 Aug 2005, 11:03 »

ALright then. Continuing on with the post rock stuff ( I don't know anything about Godspeed You.. either, so someone get to it).


I don't know a single thing about Mogwai.
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« Reply #12 on: 15 Aug 2005, 11:28 »

Band Name: Mogwai

Genre: Experimental Post-Rock

Your Rating Of Them (1-10): 9

Best Album: Most people say Young Team, though I campaign steadily for Happy Songs For Happy People

Songs:
      - Best All Around: "Like Herod"
      - Loudest/Hardest/Most Rockin': They're all really loud at some point.
      - Most Relaxing: "Kids Will Be Skeletons"
      - A song by them you may have heard: "Stanley Kubrick" has a video, so it wins by default.
      - Songs That Best Represent The Band: "Mogwai Fear Satan" (pre-Rock Action), "Boring Machines Disturbs Sleep" (post-Rock Action).

Bands Like This Band: Godspeed You! Black Emperor, Sigur Ros, Explosions In The Sky, My Bloody Valentine

Coolest Thing About This Band: The way they build and build and build on just a single rhythm or melody, it's almost taize-like. Mogwai's brilliant background music for meditating, prayer (don't laugh, I've done it) or studying, but it's also music that heavily rewards someone who sits down and listens intently.
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« Reply #13 on: 15 Aug 2005, 11:37 »

Sorry my last post waws sort of assholey. To make up for it:

Band Name: Led Zeppelin

Genre: Rock/Jam/Pre-Metal

Your Rating Of Them (1-10): 9.5 (The only qualms I have with Zep is that they were all dickweeds besides John-Paul Jones who got no respect whatsoever...)

Best Album: How The West Was Won (but buy them in chronological order)

Songs:
- Best All Around: The Ocean
- Loudest/Hardest/Most Rockin': The Imigrant Song <or> The Wanton Song
- Most Relaxing: Going To California
- Most Played/A son by them you may have heard: Stairway To Heaven
- Song That Best Represents The Band: Misty Mountain Hop
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« Reply #14 on: 15 Aug 2005, 11:38 »

Im interested in getting a cd by radio head and a cd by and you will know us by the rail of the dead (not sure if I can just ask here but yeah) any reccomendations?
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« Reply #15 on: 15 Aug 2005, 11:38 »

And what band do you want explained?
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« Reply #16 on: 15 Aug 2005, 11:39 »

Radio head and and you will know us by the trail of dead.
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« Reply #17 on: 15 Aug 2005, 11:40 »

I'd do Radiohead but it'd basically end up how much I hate them.
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« Reply #18 on: 15 Aug 2005, 11:54 »

Band Name: Radiohead

Genre: Alternative Rock/Electro

Your Rating Of Them (1-10): 7 to 9, depending on the album

Best Album: OK Computer or Hail to the Thief (tie)

Songs:
- Best All Around: Where I End and You Begin
- Loudest/Hardest/Most Rockin': 2+2=5 or Creep (old)
- Most Relaxing: Exit Music
- Most Played/A son by them you may have heard: Paranoid Android
- Song That Best Represents The Band: Sit Down, Stand Up

Edit: Can someone do this about The Pixies?
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« Reply #19 on: 15 Aug 2005, 12:00 »

I shoulda taken Zeppelin. Doubt there's going to be another band mentioned that I could do.
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« Reply #20 on: 15 Aug 2005, 13:20 »

Quote from: Mr Blue Sky
Edit: Can someone do this about The Pixies?

Yes!

Band Name: Pixies

Genre: Alternative rock

Your Rating Of Them (1-10): 10

Best Album: Doolittle

Songs:
- Best All Around:
"Gigantic" (if you can, find the re-recorded single version)
- Loudest/Hardest/Most Rockin': "Rock Music"
- Most Relaxing: "Where Is My Mind"
- Most Played/A song by them you may have heard: "Here Comes Your Man"
- Song That Best Represents The Band: "Vamos"

Bands Like This Band: The Jesus And Mary Chain, Husker Du, Nirvana, Screaming Trees, Guided By Voices, The Breeders

Coolest Thing About This Band: They're simultaneously very harsh and alienating and really, really poppy and melodic. Plus they introduced the "soft/REAL LOUD/soft" dynamic shift to independent rock.


Khar, actually, I need you to describe Bathory for me. Anyone I ask just tells me "OMFGZORDS, HE'S SO AWESOME! METAL4LYFE WOOO

"WOO"
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« Reply #21 on: 15 Aug 2005, 13:55 »

Could someone do this for me for Joy Division?

If anyone ever asks for Shellac, I call dibs.
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« Reply #22 on: 15 Aug 2005, 15:06 »

Go ahead with Shellac for me, please :)
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« Reply #23 on: 15 Aug 2005, 15:54 »

Also, La Creme could you please fix the typo in your original post so that it reads "song by them you might have heard" instead of "son by them you might have heard"?  I try not to be a grammar nazi, but people keep cutting-and-pasting it in their replies and it's really starting to bug me!!
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« Reply #24 on: 15 Aug 2005, 16:01 »

Band Name: Shellac
Genre: (Math)Rock
Rating: 9
Best Album: At Action Park (I recommend buying them in that order: At Action Park, 1000 Hurts, Terraform)

Songs:
Best All Around: Um. I can't decide, but I going to say: Song Of The Minerals
Loudest/Hardest/Most Rockin': Disgrace or, because of the end, Mama Gina
Most Relaxing: Didn't We Deserve A Look At You The Way You Really Are
Songs you might have heard by them: Most likely none, if at all Prayer To God. The most poppy one would be Copper though.
Songs That Best Represent The Band: Il Porno Star, Watch Song

Additional Info: All of their albums come in extremely cool and unusual packaging. If you want to buy 1000 Hurts, buy the Vinyl version, it costs as much as the CD version and contains a "digital accessory" along with the LP, which is the CD.
A legal MP3 can be downloaded here.
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« Reply #25 on: 15 Aug 2005, 16:01 »

could someone do sufjan stephens for me?
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« Reply #26 on: 15 Aug 2005, 16:23 »

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Could someone do this for me for Joy Division?

Done.

Band Name: Joy Division
Genre: Post-punk
Personal Rating: 10
Best Album: Unknown Pleasures

Songs:
 -Best Overall:
"Love Will Tear Us Apart"
 -Most Rocktastic: "Disorder" / "Warsaw"
-Most Relaxing: "Atmosphere"
-Song you might have heard by them: "Love Will Tear Us Apart"
-Song That Best Represents The Band: "Transmission"

Bands Like This Band: The Cure, Wire, Gang Of Four, Siouxsie and the Banshees, New Order (duh)

Coolest Thing About This Band: Besides the fact that they helped to found post-punk and tell the underground music world that keyboards can be pretty awesome, their name is New Order now, so any recording with "Joy Division" on it has automatically a pretty high level of quality.
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« Reply #27 on: 15 Aug 2005, 17:18 »

Band Name: Bathory

Genre: Bathory, The Return, Under the Sign of the Black Mark: Raw black metal. Requiem, Octogon: Thrash metal. All other albums: Viking metal

Your Rating Of Them (1-10): Black metal: 8 Thrash metal: 6 Viking metal: 10.

Best Album: Black: Under the Sign... Viking: Blood on Ice. Check both before getting Requiem or Octogon.

Songs:
- Best All Around:
"One Rode to Asa Bay"
- Loudest/Hardest/Most Rockin': "Woman of Dark Desires" or "Holocaust"
- Most Relaxing: "Heimfard"
- Most Played/A song by them you may have heard: Honestly, you will almost certainly never have heard a song by them. If you had, it would probably have been One Rode to Asa Bay, the video to which was shown very late at night on MTV about twice in 1990.
- Song That Best Represents The Band: Black: "Equimanthorn" Viking: "Great Hall Awaits a Fallen Brother"

- Bands Like This Band: Forefather, Falkenbach, Moonsorrow, early Einherjer for the viking side. For the black, pretty much pick any first wave Norwegian band. Early Mayhem for example.

- Coolest Thing About This Band: Quorthons ability to use music and lyrics coherently as a storytelling device, and his mastery of epic scale.


Bathory is an ok black metal band (they were one of the progenitors of black metal, so their basic formula has been refined into better stuff by subsequent bands) but Quorthon's almost solo viking stuff is, to be frank, pretty fucking godly.
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« Reply #28 on: 15 Aug 2005, 21:24 »

@Johnny C: Excellent Pixies breakdown. Couldn't'a done better myself!

@Inlander: It will be fixed, plus I'm gonna add a little something extra for kicks!

Um... I still know nothing about GY!BE... also, if someone wants to do Iron & Wine too... that would be cool.
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« Reply #29 on: 15 Aug 2005, 21:36 »

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Radio head and and you will know us by the trail of dead.


Band Name: And You Will Know Us By the Trail of Dead

Genre: Indie Rock/Emocore/Sonic Youth Revival

Your Rating Of Them (1-10): 8

Best Album: Source Tags & Codes hands down. Get them all, but avoid Worlds Apart. It's just so mediocre.

Songs:
- Best All Around: Another Morning Stoner
- Loudest/Hardest/Most Rockin': Days of Being Wild
- Most Relaxing: Most of them have some sort of relaxing melodic breakdown
- Most Played/A song by them you may have heard:
- Song That Best Represents The Band: Source Tags & Codes

Bands Like This Band: Sonic Youth

Coolest Thing About This Band: They know how to make epic songs/albums. They can go from huge and loud to pretty and melodic. They know their instruments well.

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Band Name: Iron & Wine

Genre: Folk/Post-Basement

Your Rating Of Them (1-10): 8

Best Album: Woman King EP, but Endless Numbered Days and Creek are both great as well.

Songs:
- Best All Around: Woman King
- Loudest/Hardest/Most Rockin': They don't rock out...
- Most Relaxing: Pretty much all of their songs are relaxing
- Most Played/A song by them you may have heard: Such Great Hights (Postal Service Cover)
- Song That Best Represents The Band: Endless Numbered Days

Bands Like This Band: Uhhhh...Neil Young?

Coolest Thing About This Band: Their chilled and simple, plus, now their adding electric guitar...and distortion!

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I'd also like to know about Godspeed You! Black Emperor
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« Reply #30 on: 16 Aug 2005, 01:21 »

Post-Basement? I would have gone with just plain vanilla basement from what I've heard.
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« Reply #31 on: 16 Aug 2005, 08:08 »

Dammit, double post, see below.
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« Reply #32 on: 16 Aug 2005, 08:09 »

Someone should do Mr. Bungle.  (I already know tons about them, but I don't have all 3 albums so I probably shouldn't fill out the survey.)

Also, someone should do Captain Beefheart.  I only have Safe As Milk and want to acquire more ASAP.
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« Reply #33 on: 16 Aug 2005, 08:19 »

Another request for Sufjan Stevens. Especially since I can't find the Michigan album and refuse to listen to Illinois until I can hear Michigan. I'm strange like that, but I won't listen to a band's new release until I know where they came from.
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« Reply #34 on: 16 Aug 2005, 08:51 »

*Bounces around because he's bored and doing these is fun*
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« Reply #35 on: 16 Aug 2005, 09:40 »

Anyone know anything of The Riverdales? Should I spend my cash on this band? Also is it worth getting anything by Squirtgun (I know they did the mallrats intro song Social... but thats it)?
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« Reply #36 on: 16 Aug 2005, 09:43 »

Okay Khar (or anyone)... you want to do more... please lemme know a bit on Burzum.

I am completely unversed and was considering peeking into that arena...

Thanks!
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« Reply #37 on: 16 Aug 2005, 10:30 »

Band Name: Burzum (Eng: Darkness)

Genre: Ambient Black Metal/Pure Ambient (later albums)

Your Rating Of Them (1-10): 7-10. Depending on song/album

Best Album: The normal consensus is "Hvis Lyset Tar Oss" but I love "Burzum".

Songs:
- Best All Around:
"Ea, Lord of the Deeps" or "Dunkelheit/Darkness/Burzum" (title depends on what version of what release you have)
- Loudest/Hardest/Most Rockin': "War"
- Most Relaxing: "Tomhet"
- Most Played/A song by them you may have heard: Ea, Lord of the Deeps is on the Fenriz Presents...The Best of Old School Black Metal comp. But apart from that, probably none.
- Song That Best Represents The Band: "Feeble Screams From Forests Unknown"

- Bands Like This Band: Early Nargaroth, Xasthur, Nortt, some Abathur.

- Coolest Thing About This Band: Each album is a balanced and complete work of art, and Varg never uses the music to directly push his extreme political beliefs, making it easily accessible.


As a note about the political beliefs though, don't actually buy any Burzum material directly if you care about that stuff, as his record label (Cympophane) has been bought out by Resistance Records, who are directly owned by the US National Alliance. Same goes for the tribute album 'Visions'. It's not like the money will go to supporting Varg anyway, he's in prison.
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« Reply #38 on: 16 Aug 2005, 10:49 »

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Someone should do Mr. Bungle. (I already know tons about them, but I don't have all 3 albums so I probably shouldn't fill out the survey.)


Much obliged!


Band Name: Mr. Bungle

Genre: Avant Garde/Experimental/Fusion (but they call[ed] themselves Clown Rock)

Your Rating Of Them (1-10): 11

Best Album: As an album in it's entirety (but for that reason only), California

Songs: (depends on album sometimes: C = California, M = Mr. Bungle, D= Disco Volante)
- Best All Around: C = Goodbye Sober Day, M = Carousel, D = Merry Go Bye-Bye/Nothing
- Loudest/Hardest/Most Rockin': My Ass Is On Fire (on Mr. Bungle)
- Most Relaxing: Retrovertigo (on California)
- Most Played/A song by them you may have heard: If any, someone has played you Carousel
- Song That Best Represents The Band: C = The Air Conditioned Nightmare, M = Stubb (A Dub), D = Platypus

Bands Like This Band: Not really any. You could make a strech and say Zappa or early Oingo Boingo, but those are really more of infuences to Mike Patton (the ever-so-godly frontman).

Coolest Thing About This Band: There's really no one best thing about Bungle. They are massively uique, all excellent musicians, they write a mean song, and they have great lyrics. I guess the number one best thing about them is that they are one of very few bands that you can take seriously or as a novelty both musically and lyrically.
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« Reply #39 on: 16 Aug 2005, 11:00 »

(But Crotchduster are better)
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« Reply #40 on: 16 Aug 2005, 11:02 »

Thanks Khar...

also thanks on the political tip. The versions I would be copping are through Aquarius and I would generally trust them to keep their supplies on the ethically agreeable side.  I may e-mail 'em just to make sure, though.
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« Reply #41 on: 16 Aug 2005, 11:13 »

Hmmn. Misanthropy are shaky, as I'm not precisely sure who owns them anymore. Back on Black are fine as far as I know though. You really have to watch out for Cymphophane and Unholy.
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« Reply #42 on: 16 Aug 2005, 12:05 »

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Post-Basement? I would have gone with just plain vanilla basement from what I've heard.


Did you hear the Woman King EP?
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« Reply #43 on: 16 Aug 2005, 15:20 »

Whoever asked for Captain Beefheart, I'm your man!

Band Name: Captain Beefheart, Captain Beefheart and his Magic Band

Genre: uhhh... PROG BLUES ZOMG

Your rating of them (1-10): 11

Best Album: Trout Mask Replica, or if you can get your hands one it (Damned near impossible for under 110 dollars) Like My Decals Off Baby. However, pretty much anything but Satisfaction Guarenteed or Bluejeans and Moonbeams is great.

Songs:
Best All Around: I'm Gonna Booglarize you Baby
Loudest/Hardest/Most Rockin: Moonlight on Vermont
Most Relaxing: The Dust Blows Forward and the Dust Blows Back maybe?
Most played/A song by them you may have heard: I think Beefheart actually got onto Letterman to promote Ice Cream for Crow, so I'm gonna go with that.
Song that Best Represents the Band: Frownland

Bands like this Band: Zappa maybe? The Residents? some people compare Devo to him. I dunno.

Coolest thing about this band: It's the most interesting Blues (or music, for that matter) that you will ever run into. ever. That and Trout Mask Replica was written in 8 hours and then he spent the next year and a half teaching it to his band.
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but the music sucks because the keyboards don't have the cold/mechanical sound they had but a wannabe techno sound that it's pathetic for Rammstein standars.

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« Reply #44 on: 16 Aug 2005, 16:21 »

Someone asked for Garbage? :O

(this whole post does not acknowledge their latest album, Bleed Like Me)
Band Name: Garbage

Genre: 90's alt. rock/pop

Your Rating Of Them (1-10): 7.5-8

Best Album: Beautiful Garbage (in my opinion anyway. it's a pretty hate-it-or-love-it album. better start out with Version 2.0 or something)

Songs:
- Best All Around: Parade
- Loudest/Hardest/Most Rockin': Push It
- Most Relaxing: You Look So Fine
- Most Played/A song by them you may have heard: Cherry Lips (or maybe Special)
- Song That Best Represents The Band: When I Grow Up

Bands Like This Band: hmmmm I guess Elastica, some Hole? Garbage isn't really that original, just overall pretty good pop-rock of the 90's with just bits of that trendy electronica stuck in for good measure.

Coolest Thing About This Band: Throughout their first and second albums, they seem to have this pretty good formula going on, but then their third album- Beautiful Garbage- just completely broke their mold. There's more  diversity to be found in Beautiful Garbage than in the rest of their other albums combined. Beautiful Garbage is the one album that truly stands out. So, I approve heartily of that change!
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« Reply #45 on: 16 Aug 2005, 17:01 »

Quote from: La Creme
Bands Like This Band:

Coolest Thing About This Band:

I didn't even see this part. Post-editing away!

Khar: Thanks, I know at least one record store in my town carries Bathory so I'll most likely check out the Viking album.
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« Reply #46 on: 16 Aug 2005, 19:05 »

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Someone asked for Garbage? :O

(this whole post does not acknowledge their latest album, Bleed Like Me)


It should, it's a damn good album if you prefer the heavier Garbage like I do.
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« Reply #47 on: 16 Aug 2005, 19:09 »

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Khar: Thanks, I know at least one record store in my town carries Bathory so I'll most likely check out the Viking album.



Blood on Ice follows the story of an old viking epic which was later turned into a Wagnar opera. I've been wanting to make an action movie based on this old story.


someone tell me about Opeth.
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« Reply #48 on: 16 Aug 2005, 19:44 »

Quorthon's tale actually takes stock parts from several sagas or folk-tales. It's as attempt at a kind of Tolkienesque uberlegend. It's a bit of a Bears Son Folktale (as if anyone here would understand that term).

Band Name: Opeth

Genre:  Progressive Death Metal.

Your Rating Of Them (1-10): 7.5

Best Album: Blackwater Park

Songs:
- Best All Around: "Bleak"
- Loudest/Hardest/Most Rockin': "Karma" *
- Most Relaxing: "Harvest" *
- Most Played/A song by them you may have heard: Again, no idea.
- Song That Best Represents The Band: "The Moor"

- Bands Like This Band: They mainly rip off Edge of Sanity :p. Agalloch and Mid-period Amorphis are also pretty similiar.

- Coolest Thing About This Band: Pretty fucking luscious guitar wankery. Never let any man say that they cannot swing their sticks and axes. They can summon up a pretty good atmosphere as well, I like their aesthetic.

*These are both rather problematic as, with all the best will to them, most of Opeths songs are actually 3 different tracks bridged together, none I can think of is continuosly rawr, and Harvest is the only one that I can think of as continuously soft. Bear in mind this is skewed by the fact I don't own Damnation or Deliverance (Their completely 'hard' and 'soft' albums. Which are doubtless replete with some tracks).

Whilst Opeth are a pretty cool band, they are horribly over-rated. Almost every kid that raves about them has never heard Edge of Sanity, Amorphis or Agalloch, or any of the classic progressive acts that influence them, and thus view Opeth as something incredibly unique and zomgincredible, when in fact they aren't really.
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« Reply #49 on: 16 Aug 2005, 19:54 »

I would like to see someone attempt The Fall. Good luck!
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