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BladeDancer

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Re: The OCD Soapbox
« Reply #150 on: 13 Mar 2008, 20:41 »

I don't really have OCD but I thought I might as well share my quirks since this is the place.

I constantly make sure my computer is configured the way I like.example: I get angry when someone merely changes my screen alingment. I also hate getting liquids in contact with my skin, I'm agorafobic, I'm always stretching, and I stress all the time. I also have that zit compulsion. I'm trying to stop that.

BTW, Hanners is so cute but I prefer bipolar brunettes, says the scar on my arm.

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Re: The OCD Soapbox
« Reply #151 on: 14 Mar 2008, 20:18 »

yes, why?
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Re: The OCD Soapbox
« Reply #152 on: 29 Mar 2008, 21:00 »

I have some mild OCD but it's usually only little things that I do. But god help me if I don't do them, like if I'm wearing jelly bracelets I have to be wearing ATLEAST 3 red ones or I feel off balance and I won't be able to use that hand until I take them off. And when cutlery or dishes are in varying sizes I have to put them in either ascending or descending order depending on what day it is. I also can't touch stair railing, which sucks when I'm really sick so if I start passing out(which happens alot because of my disease) I just have to kinda hope a friend is there and doesn't let me fall down the stairs. Which hardly ever happens but I haven't been injured yet so yay I geuss.

But I think it's worse when I sleep walk, I turn everything in my room to an angle(it has to be the same angle) and it only happens when I have my door closed. It used to scare me when I woke up but I figured out it was because the door was closed and started opening it before I went to sleep.

I could probably go on about little things that I do but that would be annoying and I don't like walls of text very much...
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Re: The OCD Soapbox
« Reply #153 on: 30 Mar 2008, 01:29 »

I also have it.... tho extraordinarily week it is....

I order my washing up... and wear my socks properly... I like eTidying my computer files, and when I make stuff it has to be PERFECT....which means i dont make much LOL

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Re: The OCD Soapbox
« Reply #154 on: 07 Apr 2008, 01:27 »

I have it bad.
But it has almost NOTHING to do with cleanliness. (for me)
Its all about numbers, walking in circles, touching my face, thinking the correct thoughts, doing the right things, self denial, etc.

I think Hanners permanently haggard disorientation is what makes her OCD so perfect.
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Re: The OCD Soapbox
« Reply #155 on: 08 Apr 2008, 23:51 »

I'm not exactly sure if what I do qualifies as an OCD, but my quirk is my bookcases. They aren't in any order other than size, smallest paperback/Left----->Largest hardcovers/right. Genres and authors are all mixed, just arranged by size/width. I didn't do it when I was younger even though I had bookcases, but the more books I managed to get the more the pattern emerged until it annoyed me when I saw them all uneven and close together.


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Re: The OCD Soapbox
« Reply #156 on: 24 Jan 2018, 15:49 »

Global Moderator Comment I'm bumping this after almost ten years since some deeply insightful comments about OCD are happening these days.

@Case, please copy your wonderful first-hand accounts and descriptions here.
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Re: The OCD Soapbox
« Reply #157 on: 24 Jan 2018, 17:09 »

BY ALL THAT IS ONE WITH THE FORCE, TEN YEARS!

Okay, so that pointless exclamation was posted simply so that I can follow this thread.
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Re: The OCD Soapbox
« Reply #158 on: 25 Jan 2018, 18:16 »

Quote from: Case
Errrhnope - I live with (I refuse to say "I suffer ...") a neurological disorder called ADD ("predominantly inattentive subtype" - though there's controversy about the usefulness of the whole subtype-idea, here I'll use "ADD" as meaning the former, "ADHD" as meaning "predominantly hyperactive/impulsive subtype" and "AD(H)D" when I refer to all three subtypes) since my birth (hence the 'congenital'), and have been wrestling with Obsessive Compulsive Disorder (OCD) for more than two decades (though it's been a while since I last experienced acute 'Brainlock'; these days it's more like general anxiety and what is called "ruminations" - and with the SNRI's I get for that one, the anxiety is manageable).

ADD is a congenital (neuro-)developmental disorder (language disorders, learning disorders, motor disorders and autism spectrum disorders, ADD/ADHD ...) and people who were born with those specific flavours of borked headmeat are referred to as 'neuroatypical' (as opposed to the 'neurotypical', i.e. the rest of humanity. "Born this way", so to speak ...  :-D). Contrary to what many people in the 80s believed (including my family's physician), AD(H)D does not only afflict children - roughly one third of those diagnosed with AD(H)D in childhood "continue to experience significant symptoms into adulthood", and I am part of that third.

OCD, too, can by traced to a dysfunction of a part of the brain called caudate nucleus (in my understanding, the CN is part of the brain's internal 'taskmanager' - the part that adds a "done"-flag to a thought-process. But that's layperson-talk), so all the talk about neurosis notwithstanding, the root of OCD is also organic, i.e. neurological. Furthermore, I vaguely remember reading about speculation that when AD(H)D and OCD appear together, the former sort of 'induces' the latter - makes sense to me, since my most long-lasting intrusive thoughts revolve(d) around functioning and executive functioning, which touches on the areas where I'm "non-standard" -> "Am I even talented enough to understand math?" was a longtime tormentor companion (After the second advanced degree with high honours, it started feeling a little out of place, I guess  :evil:), more recently, it's cousin "You really sure there's no sign-change in that exponent? You only checked three times - maybe spend another three weeks checking the whole thing with Mathematica?" is applying for "resident torturer", despite my insistence that the position is no longer available ("Thank the Lord for Serotonine re-uptake inhibitors!")

ADD is basically about focus control : Nothing wrong with my ability to focus - in fact, like many people with ADD, I can access hyperfocus (and with medication, I can 'control' that state ... in the broadest sense of 'control'). The problem of the ADDer is controlling focus - my 'gaspedal' basically only knows the settings 'idle' and 'flank speed ahead' (and 'Are you nuts?', sometimes), and the latter highly depends on factors like 'interest in the topic' and carefully balancing eustress and distress (Trouble is that most employers don't really appreciate 'This stuff is simply too boring for me to perform well' as an explanation for underachievement, even if it's the literal, scientifically proven truth). I'm basically built for "panicked last-minute binge-learning", because anxiety is stimulating, which kicks in the hyperfocus. But that's kinda hit-and-miss, too: Miss the "stress-balance", and instead of "alert & driven, but not yet paralysed by fear", you end up really focussed on how royally screwed you are. That 'system' worked in school and the first semesters of Uni, but brute force sprint-learning simply doesn't cut it past a certain point - not to mention that it's not by any means enjoyable, even for a young person. I used to call that particular semiconscious mindgames-with-myself-but-pretending-not-to-notice "getting before the breaking wave", like a surfer getting into a 'tunnel' - with the implication that you'll be treated to a good trashing at best if you miscalculate and fall behind. There is a theory that AD(H)D might be related to an evolutionary adaptation in hunter-gatherer societies; I get where they're coming from (afaik, lots of folk with ADHD seriously enjoy extreme sports), but that one always felt a little too neat for me - either way, that's about as 'enjoyable' as that strategy of 'freaking yourself out just short of panicking' is: Like hunting a (dangerous) animal. When it works, it's a blast for a few seconds, but the rest of the time, it means constant anxiety to keep the guilt and self-doubt company (Nice to fantasise that my neurology would make me Mr. Big-swinging-cod-Mammoth-hunter in a stone age tribe - trouble is, it's not the Holocene anymore ...).
 The only other thing that works longtime is stimulant medication - and tons of therapy for the OCD and the after-effects of decades of guilt, anxiety and crippling self-doubt (One of the nasty things about ADD is that you know that you underperform, but you have no proof in the form of grades, and as much as any parent would like to believe their academically struggling offspring that they're really much smarter than their grades ... which struggling student wouldn't like to believe that they're much smarter than their grades? I have been dismissed by a psychiatrist as "giving myself ideas above my station/intelligence" when I was 12 and seeking help - sadly, that sick asshole is dead, so I can't make him eat a copy of my PhD-evaluation along with his words. Before reporting him to the "Ärtztekammer" ...)
 And OCD ... well it's not called Obsessive Compulsive Disorder because it's conducive to a regular and steady working/learning style, know what I mean? The resulting working/learning style I ended up with is ... not really standard. I have to use the tools I was given, I can't simply be someone I'm not. Stimulant medication for ADD doesn't make the ADD go away, it's more that it "makes the ADD go all the way until it works" (that's the way it feels, at least). And I'm still kind of a obsessive/compulsive character, even now that I'm "kindasorta cured".
 
Part of that strategy is "slow down to go faster" - painful, straightforward working against the disorders (e.g. like forcing myself to "think slowly and step by step" which my ADD-brain isn't really fond of. I've gone as far as making myself copying/extending a lecture in longhand just to force myself to "slow down") and part of it is trying to kind of 'harness' the strengths implicit in the disorders where they're useful: Sticking to rituals e.g. is really soothing, even if they're not the rituals your OCD wants to force you into - like tricking a kid by sweetening medicine that tastes bad. Especially when aided by medication, adhering to step-by-step "slow thinking" and simultaneous documentation has the side-effect that I can keep the whole calculation in my long-term memory (ADD is associated with weakened working memory) - at which point my proneness to associations and intuitive leaps turns from a weakness (association + weak short-term memory => distractability/loosing train of thought) into a strength (creativity, being good at making connections, seeing stuff that others overlook). But I need either medication for that, or meticulous, long-term preparation. I've heard that Actor Jim Caviziel, one of the "no meds, just working out and working through it"-faction, operates in a similar fashion: Meticulous preparation, in all levels of detail. Makes sense to me: I'm really, really bad at prioritizing, but when I 'simply' work through all the details, I have a mental model I can 'walk around in' and my ADD becomes an advantage. Sort of "Your working memory is weak and your shit at realtime prioritizing? That sucks. Here's pen & paper - your long-term memory is perfectly fine, and you don't need to prioritize in real-time if you write it all down". It's a strategy that nobody with a neurotypical brain would even think of trying - but there's tasks where this method not only compensates for the disorders, but actually gives me an edge.
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