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« Reply #50 on: 02 Mar 2006, 16:37 »

im a hardcore 7 fan.  it was the first game i bought for computer and i still play that game.  it was the first game ive ever gotten caught up in the story line.  i still play it to this day.
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« Reply #51 on: 02 Mar 2006, 16:37 »

im a hardcore 7 fan.  it was the first game i bought for computer and i still play that game.  it was the first game ive ever gotten caught up in the story line.  i still play it to this day.
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« Reply #52 on: 02 Mar 2006, 16:37 »

im a hardcore 7 fan.  it was the first game i bought for computer and i still play that game.  it was the first game ive ever gotten caught up in the story line.  i still play it to this day.
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« Reply #53 on: 02 Mar 2006, 16:37 »

im a hardcore 7 fan.  it was the first game i bought for computer and i still play that game.  it was the first game ive ever gotten caught up in the story line.  i still play it to this day.
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« Reply #54 on: 02 Mar 2006, 19:02 »

im a hardcore 7 fan.  it was the first game i bought for computer and i still play that game.  it was the first game ive ever gotten caught up in the story line.  i still play it to this day.
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« Reply #55 on: 02 Mar 2006, 19:10 »

shit son sorry for the manyt dupe reply my intranet is f'ed up
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« Reply #56 on: 02 Mar 2006, 20:59 »

im a hardcore 7 fan. it was the first game i bought for computer and i still play that game. it was the first game ive ever gotten caught up in the story line. i still play it to this day.
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« Reply #57 on: 02 Mar 2006, 21:32 »

hey i allready appologized
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« Reply #58 on: 05 Mar 2006, 13:21 »

Haha..you must REELAY be a fan!
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« Reply #59 on: 10 Mar 2006, 01:27 »

Of the games with the Final Fantasy name (whether or not they are part of the 'series' is debatable), these are the ones I've beaten: FF6, FF 7, FF 9, FFT, FFT: A, and Mystic Quest.  I'd rank them about like this:

1. Final Fantasy Tactics- I've played this game more than any other game I own, except perhaps for Chrono Trigger.  Aside from the atrocious translation, everything here is damn near perfect.  The story's still one of the best I've experienced, the characters fleshed out, and the gameplay peerless among strategic RPGs.  On my all-time top five, easy.

2. Final Fantasy 7- Easily the most significant of the series, as it not only took RPGs in a more modern and mature direction, but it made the genre mainstream in a way it hadn't been before.  Not to mention it was the perfect showcase for the PS1's superior graphics in the cinematic department.  But even when you strip all that away, you're still left with a great game; the gameplay is still my favorite of the main FF series, the story and infamous twist top-notch, and the characters a refreshing change from the archetypes of earlier RPGs.  It also had what I consider the ideal party size for an RPG.  Definitely in my all-time top ten.

3. Final Fantasy 6- Also a great game, it just loses a couple points for having somewhat less engaging characters, several of whom were almost completely extraneous.  Still a fine RPG in every category, just slightly below 7 in most of them.  Not in my top ten, but if I ever did a top twenty, it's definitely on there.  Also, it had a much more satisfying ending than 7.

4. Final Fantasy 9- Decent, but a big step down from the other three.  I definitely didn't like the characters here, and the story didn't pull me in the way I had expected from the Final Fantasy series up to this point.  Gameplay also didn't wow me, the Trance system felt broken, and the characters were very unbalanced.  I did enjoy the ability system though; it's been in several games, and I always like it.  Also, the visual style of this game, and how it hearkened back to the older RPGs, was also something interesting.  Not gonna make any of my top lists, but I still was glad I played it.  I doubt I ever replay it, though.

5. Final Fantasy Tactics Advance- Now this game was pretty bad.  Undeserving of its namesake in pretty much every way.  The story?  Terrible, not fit for anyone over about 10.  Characters?  Grating.  Visuals?  Cloyingly cute.  Combat?  They combined the gameplay of Tactics Ogre and FFT and somehow came out with something worse than both of those.  Again, this one has that likeable ability system, where the skills are in the equipment, but that's small consolation, especially since said system was better implemented in titles like FF 9 and Vandal Hearts 2.  And forget about the judges, that's a whole other issue.  Ironically, this game had much more replay value than FFT in theory, with the ability to play after completing the main story, and a host of optional quests to do.  But the overall experience was so bland and irritating that after I beat the game, I never turned it on again.

6. Final Fantasy Mystic Quest- I don't care if it was supposed to be a beginner's RPG.  It just has too much suck for words.  You want a good beginner's RPG, then play the one I did first: EarthBound.  Simple, but still quite enjoyable.  Everything Mystic Quest wasn't.
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« Reply #60 on: 10 Mar 2006, 12:25 »

No matter what game is better, VIII had the best opening movie of any video game ever made, EVER!
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« Reply #61 on: 11 Mar 2006, 07:38 »

GODDAMNIT!! NINE OWNS YOUR BALLS!!
  I cannot think of one with a more completely satisfying experience! A perfectly balanced skill and battle system,amazing characters (that people seem not to like simply because they don't LOOK like pop stars) and the most tolerable ending EVER! GAWWD!!
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« Reply #62 on: 11 Mar 2006, 11:23 »

I just remember not liking the story of nine much. Cliche-esque.
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« Reply #63 on: 11 Mar 2006, 13:58 »

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GODDAMNIT!! NINE OWNS YOUR BALLS!!
  I cannot think of one with a more completely satisfying experience! A perfectly balanced skill and battle system,amazing characters (that people seem not to like simply because they don't LOOK like pop stars) and the most tolerable ending EVER! GAWWD!!


I actually felt the combat in this game was among the least balanced, and least enjoyable, of the entire series.  And it wasn't the visual aspect of the characters that bothered me, it was how uninspired and often irritating they were.  Also, I never like it when a game forces you to use your main character, and promptly makes him one of the weakest of the whole team.  It was one of my few gripes about Super Mario RPG, too.
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« Reply #64 on: 11 Mar 2006, 14:45 »

Fuck, thanks for reminding me about Super Mario RPG, I loved that game. Anyways to add to my point above, how can there even be an argument; III was the best (thatís North American III, I dont know which number it is in Japan but itís the one with Tera and Kefka and King Edgar and all that). The battles were straight forward, but not too easy, the characters were fully fleshed out, and the story, oh god the story, it still blows my mind and I've beaten it like 5 or 6 times. VII was great, I'm still playing X but it's fun so far VIII was even pretty cool (and lets not forget II), but come on guys, its all about fuckin Kefka!
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« Reply #65 on: 12 Mar 2006, 00:06 »

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Fuck, thanks for reminding me about Super Mario RPG, I loved that game. Anyways to add to my point above, how can there even be an argument; III was the best (thatís North American III, I dont know which number it is in Japan but itís the one with Tera and Kefka and King Edgar and all that). The battles were straight forward, but not too easy, the characters were fully fleshed out, and the story, oh god the story, it still blows my mind and I've beaten it like 5 or 6 times. VII was great, I'm still playing X but it's fun so far VIII was even pretty cool (and lets not forget II), but come on guys, its all about fuckin Kefka!


No problem, always glad to help people remember an RPG as good as that one.  And in Japan FF 3 was FF 6, one of the ones I did complete.  I would have to argue that the characters weren't as fleshed out as later installments, and a couple of them seemed downright superfluous from both a story and gameplay standpoint.  That's one of the reasons I gave 7 the slight edge over it; it had fewer characters, but they were all used much more effectively, and no one felt like a fifth wheel.  The story in 6 was good, and Kefka's still a rather unique villain in the RPG genre, someone who lacks outright power, but more than makes up for it with his cunning and outright lunacy.  However, as fine a game as it is, I still didn't get immersed in it as completely as I was with FF 7 and Tactics.
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« Reply #66 on: 12 Mar 2006, 12:07 »

FINE!! *Pouts*
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« Reply #67 on: 14 Mar 2006, 20:53 »

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FINE!! *Pouts*


Hey, you liking nine isn't that bad.  At least you aren't supporting Tactics Advance.
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« Reply #68 on: 14 Mar 2006, 20:55 »

NOBODY supports tactics advanced... unless they have never heard of original tactics... and then they should be shot in the face.
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« Reply #69 on: 14 Mar 2006, 21:04 »

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NOBODY supports tactics advanced... unless they have never heard of original tactics... and then they should be shot in the face.


Precisely.  I mean, I'm not one of those Xbox fanboys who goes aorund calling every Nintendo product kiddy, but let's face it; in the case of Tactics Advance, the label fits.  Big time.  It's a bad game all by itself, but even more offensive in its sucktitude because of how opposite it is from the first Tactics.
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« Reply #70 on: 15 Mar 2006, 08:36 »

It wasn't really meant to be another tactics though. Some of the battles in the original tactics took me like, a good hour and a half to two hours. Not well suited for a portable thing.
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« Reply #71 on: 15 Mar 2006, 10:15 »

Still doesn't forgive the fact that every battle plays out the same.  YAWN!
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« Reply #72 on: 15 Mar 2006, 12:05 »

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The original tactics never got a UK release.
Don't think there was a PAL version at all. So no tactics for the aussies either.


You know, I was looking at some big million seller game list the other day, and I noticed that outside of the US and Japan, FFT had sold virtually no copies.  I guess that's part of the reason why.  Well, if you are any fan of strategic RPGs, you MUST import this game.  It's the king of the genre in both gameplay and story, even if said story is poorly translated.  Really, the only thing lacking from this game was a decent editor to correct the many glaring errors in the dialogue, skill names, and so on.

Oh, and Kai, I've never had a battle in Tactics go that long unless:

1. I was trying to steal stuff or learn something from a boss (getting the Genji equipment and Ultima being the two chief examples)

2. I was trying to find the path to the next level in the Deep Dungeon

3. I went and ate dinner while the game was still on.

However, it was never a question of putting Tactics on the GBA, I doubt the meager system could handle the game.  But creating a bastardized mix of FFT and TO, with a straight-up Disney story thrown into the mix (and not good Disney, I mean like straight-to-video sequel Disney)......there had to be some better options out there.  Just a scaled-down port would've been far superior, even if it wasn't original.
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« Reply #73 on: 15 Mar 2006, 18:13 »

Hell if this isn't a nice,long-lasting forum! You guys are SUPERCOOL. NIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIINE!
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« Reply #74 on: 15 Mar 2006, 18:15 »

As far as Tactics goes,it was delightful! i have yet to beat it or get very far,but I need to attempt again some day!
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« Reply #75 on: 16 Mar 2006, 09:09 »

I just rebought 7 and damn, i love it but i really can't stop thinking of the remake, dear god i hope it will actually be released.

BUT one thing that annoys me about 7, it leaves you wanting more infoo on cloud and separoth's pasts, and only the japanise have access to ALL of the books and games that clear it all up.

Did you know there's a damn mobile phone FF7 game!?
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« Reply #76 on: 16 Mar 2006, 09:51 »

Isn't it also only in Japan?
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« Reply #77 on: 16 Mar 2006, 14:42 »

I want that damn phone game -_-

Maybe you're right, when i finished my current playthrough of FF7 i shall wiki it, and expand my knowladge!

Also i think nine is my fave still though ;)
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« Reply #78 on: 16 Mar 2006, 14:59 »

I concur. Nine is awesome! Vivi and Quina ftw!
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« Reply #79 on: 17 Mar 2006, 09:01 »

Just found something that may interest you lot, how to beat emerald weapon in under two minutes

Works with clouds last limit too. ;)


Have to admit though FF7 wins on terms of super bosses, i mean all ff9 had was ozma, who is actually just a matter of luck if you win or not because you can actually beat him with an average level of 1, because most of his attacks are percentage attacks.
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« Reply #80 on: 17 Mar 2006, 09:22 »

Am I the only one who liked FF1 and FFIV?  I'm actually working on FF7 for the first time right now, and it looks good, but FF1 was the old school hotness and FFIV (which I think was the first with any sort of job system, which it did very well) was awesome.  They went to the freakin' moon!

OK, so VI was better and I haven't played any of the others.  But still!  The old school hotness!
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« Reply #81 on: 17 Mar 2006, 17:18 »

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Am I the only one who liked FF1 and FFIV?  I'm actually working on FF7 for the first time right now, and it looks good, but FF1 was the old school hotness and FFIV (which I think was the first with any sort of job system, which it did very well) was awesome.  They went to the freakin' moon!

OK, so VI was better and I haven't played any of the others.  But still!  The old school hotness!


Yeah, although my longer post above didn't mention 4, that's just because  was focusing on FF games I had completed.  I have played fairly decent-sized portions of both IV (don't remember how far I got exactly, but it was a good 6 or 7 hours in) and V (I got to the end of the first world), and both were good.  Definitely below VI, but likely above IX, with IV ranked a bit above V, just because it had the superior story.  I can never really support a game where the main enemy is called X-Death.  That is one of the worst and most unoriginal boss names in existence.  Oh, and for fans of FF IV, Cecil does make a cameo in Square's Super NES game Secret of Evermore.
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« Reply #82 on: 17 Mar 2006, 22:17 »

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« Reply #83 on: 18 Mar 2006, 03:29 »

Well, VI was the first Final Fantasy I played, and possibly the first RPG I played (I can't remember if I played FFVI or Chrono Trigger first), so I naturally prefer it. Kefka was just awesome. I mean, at the end he's in a giant tower frying any town he feels like, with a mindless cult worshipping him. Crazy. Also, it was the only game in the series where you could play as a moogle. Mog rules. I would have bought FFXI if you could play as a moogle, but noooo.

Next I like IX. Mostly cause I think Zidane rocks. The twin-bladed sword or daggers was a nice divergance from the "Main hero with large sword" stereotype from VII and VIII (And continued in X). All the characters were fun and entertaining, and none of them felt whiny, like most of the characters from VII and VIII felt to me.

Although I have to admit I have not played the whole series, and not played hardly any of I, IV, V, X, and Tactics.
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