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« Reply #300 on: 12 Apr 2006, 19:49 »

It's You by Garth Brooks (live)
     Explaination:  I don't know how I got this.  I'm guessing that some idiot cousin of mine downloaded it to my computer when my back was turned.  It is now deleted.

Keep Your Secrets by Trans-Siberian Orchestra

Yesterday Don't Mean Shit by Pantera

The Sleep by Pantera

Great Balls of Fire by Jerry Lee Lewis

Hanuman Chalisa (random Hindu Chant)

Drum Salute by The Royal Scotts Dragoon Guards


This is why I never use my entire music collection when playing music.  I never know what I'm going to find.  I never listen to any of that, normally.
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« Reply #301 on: 13 Apr 2006, 10:19 »

Ugh.

Kaiser Chiefs- I Heard it Through the Grapevine
Beastie Boys- Instant Death
Flogging Molly- Drunken Lullabies
Pavement- Cut Your Hair
Pavement- Our Singer
The Darkness- Holding My Own
Beck- Cold Brains.
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« Reply #302 on: 13 Apr 2006, 10:49 »

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They biology students?


Haha! Yeah, one of them was, and he'd love it that someone else actually knew what the NOR are.

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« Reply #303 on: 13 Apr 2006, 10:49 »

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« Reply #304 on: 13 Apr 2006, 11:24 »

Elliott Smith - Waltz #2 (XO)
Pretty Girls Make Graves - If You Hate Your Friends, You're Not ALone
Dallas Green - Day Old Hate
the Matches - Chain Me Free
the Flatliners - Gullible
Gogol Bordello - Start Wearing Purple
Yum Yum Orange! - Cartoon Heroes
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« Reply #305 on: 13 Apr 2006, 12:54 »

Dizzy Gillespie- Ool Ya Koo (Cuban-tinged scat jazz? Yes please!)
Mclusky- There Ain't No Fool In Ferguson (FUCK YES)
Eels- Novocaine For The Soul (Still amazing)
UFO- Doctor Doctor (not as big a rawk fan I used to be- s'alright)
Dinosaur Jnr.- Freak Scene
(Saw them last year at Leeds- J Mascis now looks like the bastard son of a hobo and a grey shower curtain, but dammit they were still great)
A Tribe Called Quest- Jazz (We Got The)- (best-rap-album-ever)
Tortoise- Djed (oh i'll be here for awhile with this one...)
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« Reply #306 on: 14 Apr 2006, 12:01 »

New shuffle!

Failure - The Nurse Who Loved Me
The Velvet Underground - Stephanie Says
De La Soul - Me, Myself and I
Cranberries - Zombie
The Flaming Lips - The Big Ol' Bug is the New Baby Now (Zaireeka mixed together)
Sigur Ros - Fyrsta
Citizens Here and Abroad - Like a Clock 11/13
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« Reply #307 on: 15 Apr 2006, 10:16 »

Smashing Pumpkins - For Martha
Boards of Canada - Magic Window
Belle and Sebastian - Sukie in the Graveyard
Gomez - Blue Moon Rising
David Holmes - Gone
Calexico / Iron & Wine - Dead Man's Will
Eels - Wooden Nickels
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« Reply #308 on: 15 Apr 2006, 13:46 »

The Inbreds - Mutiny on my Mind
Slaughter - Children of the Fire
Miners of Moria - Outro (The End of Time)
Black Label Society - Graveyard Disciples
Ikon - She's in Parties
Translucia Baboon - March of the Sinister Ducks
Fuck You - Scream Song
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« Reply #309 on: 15 Apr 2006, 15:54 »

Urdog-Zombie Cloud (Kicked from the prog canon for use of lo-fi)
The Album Leaf-On Your Way (A pleasant coastal vista got polluted and died)
The Futurians-Venus (Everyone was REALLY afraid of the Cybor-Men)
Desperate Bicyles-Acting (A good track for inclusion in the rebellious jukebox)
Fursaxa-Poppy Opera (Maam, your farfisa appears to be stoned)
Superchunk-Never too Young to Smoke (There was a cover song of a band I can't remember. It got deleted.)
Burzum-Ea, Lord of the Depths (Tracks Khar posts to prove a point are this seasons' hot item.)
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« Reply #310 on: 16 Apr 2006, 00:57 »

"Who's Your Baby Now?" -Mark Knopfler
"Transatlanticism" - Death Cab For Cutie
"Rejoicing In The Hands" - Devendra Banhart (Hah, two title tracks in a row)
"No Direction" - Bad Religion
"Bend and not Break" - Dashboard Confesional
"Voyeur" - Blink 182
"Living Room" - Tegan and Sara

Well, I got two embaresing things in there. Heh, I listen to everything from Slipknot to Enya, so y'know it's hard to care what other people think of my musical taste. I like all of the bands above, by the way. Very, very much in fact.
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« Reply #311 on: 16 Apr 2006, 13:17 »

Sweet Avenue by Jets To Brazil (one of my favourite songs by one of my favourite bands)

Concrete Jungle by The Specials from their (I love two-tone ska. :-))

Styrofoam by Fugazi (Fugazi are brilliant. 'Nuff said)

If Winter Ends by Bright Eyes (:-) Bright Eyes make me happy)

I fought the law by The Clash (Always worth a listen)

Time And Time Again - Counting Crows (I haven't heard this song in ages. I like it)
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« Reply #312 on: 17 Apr 2006, 10:29 »

Perfect Disguise - Modest Mouse
Lua - Bright Eyes
Silent Shout - The Knife
La Vie Boheme - Rent
School Spirit - Kanye West
Paris Four Hundred - Mylo
All Goes Out The Window - The Streets


Ehh, eclectic anyone?
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« Reply #313 on: 17 Apr 2006, 13:51 »

Radiohead- Motion Picture Soundtrack
Ted Leo/Pharmacists- Me and Mia
MC Chris- Fett's Vett
They Might Be Giants- Purple Toupee
Talib Kweli- 2+2
The Decemberists- California One Youth And Beauty Brigade
Wolf Parade- Dinner Bells
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« Reply #314 on: 17 Apr 2006, 13:58 »

Mad Season - I Don't Know Anything
Beck - The New Pollution
Flaming Lips - It's Summertime
Gorillaz - Last Livin' Souls
Pantera - Cat Scratch Fever
Pearl Jam - Love Boat Captain
Broken Social Scene - Passport Radio
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« Reply #315 on: 19 Apr 2006, 00:25 »

Spoon - Small Stakes
Tilly And The Wall - Night Of The Living Dead
Sufjan Stevens - Decatur, Or, Round Of Applause For Your Step Mother!
The Raveonettes - Let's Rave On
No Doubt - World Go 'Round  (hahahaha YESSS)
The Apples In Stereo - Innerspace
Manishevitz - Go Blind
!!! - Hammerhead
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« Reply #316 on: 19 Apr 2006, 06:59 »

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La Vie Boheme - Rent


Haha! yay!

1. Free Design - Track 6 from Kites Are Fun.
I imported this when away from internet (AFI?) on holiday in England, and so couldn't look up track names. Now I am too lazy to enter them myself, delete and rerip, or change the info that I changed back to the old stuff so that iTunes can look it up again.
2. Four Tet - My Angel Rocks Back and Forth
OMG love Four Tet. Don't like Fridge as much though =//
3. Architecture in Helsinki - DTW Metronomy Remix Rough
DL'd from their website. Bit of a dodgy remix. I kinda like it better than the original, but it sounds like a different song rather than a remix if you ask me.
4. P.E.D. - the Frog Song
Old school hardfore ftw? I used to listen to all kinds of this stuff :-)
5. Dahmer - Dahmer
Erg, I used to listen to thrash punk and crust and stuff too.
6. Jawbreaker - The Boat Dreams from the Hill
Possibly my favourite song ever. "Anchored to a fixer-uppers dream" indeed.
7. David Crowder Band - No One Like You
I admit it, I like some God-rock. Actually, I probably like roughly 40% of David Crowder's songs. The other 60% sound like shitty ballads or something.


Also, first post in AGES. like May '05? So almost a year. (I did a search. Apparently I have one post in September. 6 months :-P)
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« Reply #317 on: 19 Apr 2006, 07:48 »

ok ...so some of these are embarassing BUT THAT IS WHO I AM SO DEAL WITH IT. i like musicals. so hush.

1. Play The Game - Queen
2. You're the One that I Want - Grease OST
3. I Wanna Hold Your Hand - The Beatles
4. The Lonely Goatherd - The Sound of Music OST
5. Thank You for the Venom - My Chemical Romance
6. Me and Julio Down By the Schoolyard - Me First and the Gimme Gimme's
7. APR - The Forecast
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« Reply #318 on: 19 Apr 2006, 13:41 »

Take Me To The Club - Mannequin
Temptation Waits - Garbage
Welcome to the Jungle - Guns N' Roses
Barrel of a Gun (Underworld Remix) - Depeche Mode
You Spin Me Round - Dead or Alive
Sunny Came Home - Shawn Colvin
Kids in America - Kim Wilde

I don't know.
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« Reply #319 on: 19 Apr 2006, 15:28 »

Hum of the Druid-A Village That Fucks Statues
Mekons-Hole in the Ground
Dalek-Classical Homicide
Ellen Fullman-Receeding Parade
Jessica Rylan-Wishing Well
Bottom of the Hudson-Motorcaid
Silver Apples-I Have Known Love
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« Reply #320 on: 19 Apr 2006, 21:12 »

1) Bartender- Dave Matthews Band (Lillywhite sessions version, such a fantastic song)
2) Love Me Like You- The Magic Numbers
3) For Now- Bela Fleck and the Flecktones
4) If I Needed Someone- The Beatles
5) Don't Worry 'Bout Me- The Dave Brubeck Quartet
6) You Know my Name (Look up the Number)- The Beatles
7) Grace Is Gone- Dave Matthews Band (Lillywhite Sessions version also, this song makes you want to kill yourself heh.)
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« Reply #321 on: 19 Apr 2006, 21:42 »

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ok ...so some of these are embarassing BUT THAT IS WHO I AM SO DEAL WITH IT.

5. Thank You for the Venom - My Chemical Romance


SRSLY.


1. Jurassic 5 - Improvise
2. Rise Against - Rumors of My Demise Have Been Greatly Exaggerated
3. Kaiser Chiefs - Oh My God
4. Thunderball - Vai Vai (God, I love Thunderball)
5. Dropkick Murphys - Tessie
6. Nick Drake - Fly
7. Mclusky - Alan Is A Cowboy Killer
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« Reply #322 on: 20 Apr 2006, 02:47 »

1. Seb Komor & Zombie Girl - "House of 1000 Corpses" (rob zombie cover, and it's hilarious)
2. Final - "Sorry"
3. Mortiis - "Everyone Leaves"
4. Rx - "Downtown"(Tony Hatch cover)
5. Tom Waits - "The Briar and the Rose"
6. Converter "Denogginzer(Kill the Brain rmx)"
7. Jesu - "Frinds are Evil"
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« Reply #323 on: 20 Apr 2006, 06:20 »

Lucky - Bif Naked
Fields of Gold - Eva Cassidy
Precious - Depeche Mode
Crazy - Seal
I Know You Got Soul - Bobby Byrd
We Need a Resolution - Aaliyah
Just A Girl - No Doubt

Dammit, I can't be that poppy. Can I?
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« Reply #324 on: 25 Apr 2006, 17:05 »

Oh lord, I know all the worst songs will come up... Well, here goes:

1. Bad Boyfriend- Garbage
2. American Psycho- My Ruin
3. Give 'Em Hell, Kid- My Chemical Romance (Yeah.  Like that.)
4. My Name Is Jonas- Weezer
5. Collagen Rock- Mclusky
6. Lip Gloss And Black- Atreyu
7. Laura- Scissor Sisters

And this has officially been the most inaccurate representation of my music collection.  Ever.
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« Reply #325 on: 25 Apr 2006, 17:11 »

1. I'm Left, You're Right, She's Gone [Slow Version]- Elvis Presley
2. Squeaky Fingers- Ted Leo/Phramascists
3. Cecila- Paul Simon
4. No Sleep- Sam Roberts
5. Black Cotton- 2Pac
6. Back in Black- AC/DC
7. Intergration (Insert)- Ice Cube
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« Reply #326 on: 25 Apr 2006, 20:53 »

Led Zepplin - "Moby Dick/Bonzo's Montreux"
Led Zepplin - "Stairway to Heaven"
CarboHydroM - "How Did The Cat Get So Fat?"
CarboHydroM & BrainCells - "Dual Storm"
The Rolling Stones - "Sympathy for the Devil"
Dave Matthews & Reel Big Fish - "Boss DJ"
Housethegrate - "La Hora Es Tarde"

Videogame remixes make up the majority of my iTunes library, and it just so happens that the shuffle picked some of the best I have.  These guys are killer.  I also have a lot of Led Zepplin, b/c a friend sent me his whole collection of Led Zepplin songs.
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« Reply #327 on: 25 Apr 2006, 21:05 »

Bauhaus - She's In Parties
Manic Street Preachers - Suicide Alley
The Cult - Phoenix
Nikki French - Total Eclipse of the Heart (*gags*)
Various Artists - 8 (and I've nfi what it is, except that it's kind of bleepy and doofy)
The Mission - Fabienne
Alien Sex Fiend - Five to One
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« Reply #328 on: 26 Apr 2006, 01:19 »

Live - Selling The Drama
Senses Fail - Rum Is For Drinking, Not Burning
Linkin Park - One Step Closer
The Cure - Us Or Them
Trapt - Still Frame
Lamb - Just Is
Ladytron - Bluejeans

it's a small sample of my music collection to pick from though. damn USB thingy with its tinyness.
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« Reply #329 on: 26 Apr 2006, 07:14 »

first that would jump into my head
  • The Cure - The Hanging Gardens
  • The Arcade Fire - Naive Melody
  • Bob Dylan - Tambourine Man
  • The Smiths - The Queen Is Dead
  • Rolling Stones -You Got Me Rocking
  • Billy Idol - White Wedding
  • Iggy Pop - Candy[/list:u]
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« Reply #330 on: 26 Apr 2006, 13:44 »

fit but you know it - the streets
stand by me - ben e. king
under the sea - from the little mermaid
the night before - the beatles
you belong to me - tori amos
little tiny song - barenaked ladies
the sound of settling - deathcab for cutie
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« Reply #331 on: 26 Apr 2006, 14:14 »

Oneida-Treasure Plane
American Music Club-All Your Jeans Were Too Tight
Kites-Something About America
HDU-Amino
Slowdive-Slowdive (Live)
Legendary Pink Dots-The Black Zone (Live)
Leviathan-Fucking Your Ghost in Chains of Ice
Butthole Surfers-Cowboy Bob

-This whole set was interupted by a photocopier that emits a sound not entirely unlike the vocals on a Whitehouse record.
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« Reply #332 on: 26 Apr 2006, 16:25 »

1. Tegan and Sara - "Freedom"
2. In Ink Please - "Fifty Pound Coat"
3. Brandtson - "Things Look Brighter"
4. Rachael Cantu - "Summer of Cycling"
5. Tilly and the Wall - "Nights of the Living Dead"
6. Eisley - "Telescope Eyes"
7. Tegan and Sara - "I Won't Be Left"
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« Reply #333 on: 26 Apr 2006, 18:55 »

1: Deerhoof: Apple Bomb
2: Rheinland Bar Track #02 [.wav file ripped from the Freelancer game folder]
3: Doom 3 Theme music
4: Nine Inch Nails: Closer (trance remix)
5: Scott Peeples - Synthetic Demon
6: DJ Malone - Megamix
7: Yoko Kanno - Pet Food
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« Reply #334 on: 26 Apr 2006, 19:26 »

Tony Iommi and Glenn Hughes - Wasted Again
Metallica - Ride the Lightning
Queen - Don't Stop Me Now
Bruce Dickinson - Book of Thel
Nevermore - Narcosynthesis
Iced Earth - Iced Earth
Iron Maiden - Sea of Madness

Man, if you replaced Queen with Zeppelin and Iommi with some random prog band, this would be like a perfect cross-section of my music.
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« Reply #335 on: 26 Apr 2006, 23:06 »

Does the Bruce Dickinson track have cowbell?
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« Reply #336 on: 26 Apr 2006, 23:15 »

HAHAHAHAHA I GET IT

BECAUSE THE PRODUCER IN THE SNL SKIT WAS NAMED BRUCE DICKINSON
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« Reply #337 on: 14 Jan 2008, 11:54 »

1- Underwater (You and Me)--Clap Your Hands
2- Hemipode--Amiina
3- She Ionizes & Atomizes--Modest Mouse
4- Make Love to Me Forever--Snow Patrol
5- When the Levee Breaks--A Perfect Circle
6- Sailor & Widow--Keran Ann
7- A Time for Emily--The Elected

&8- Hello--Simple Kid (just cause it was funny...yeah I know it says 7 songs)
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« Reply #338 on: 14 Jan 2008, 12:04 »

holy shit you really went digging for this.

'sup, going-on-2-years ago?

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« Reply #339 on: 14 Jan 2008, 12:30 »

What the fuck is with the necro-posting recently?
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« Reply #340 on: 14 Jan 2008, 12:31 »

Frank & Walters - How Can I Exist (Irish. Very 90's)
ACDC - Thunderstruck (YEAH!)
Teddy Thompson - Shine (Singer-songwriter sings about how awful fame is)
Tom McRae - Got A Suitcase, Got Regrets (Singer-songwriter sings about suitcases & regrets. Seriously, my favourite singer)
John Murphy - The Last Message (From the ill-fated Sunshine soundtrack)
James - Destiny Calling (English. Very 90's. Reminds me of the year Arsenal won the league. Damnit, Sky Sports has helped create one of my happiest memories. Think they'll charge me for this?)
SigUr Ros - Njosnavelin (Enough said)
Gin Blossoms - Hey Jealousy (Yay! Bouncy, happy, cheesey pop-rock-lite!)
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« Reply #341 on: 14 Jan 2008, 12:39 »

What the fuck is with the necro-posting recently?

Well, with approx. 20 new people joining per day, and a current total of, oh, 512,939 posts, I'd be pretty sure that people have neither the time nor the inclination to search for EVERY SINGLE VARIATION of something that they think might be fun to post? In addition, with the rate of growth, should we newbies just be contented to read the old posts and think about how great it would have been if we had joined sooner, so we could participate?
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« Reply #342 on: 14 Jan 2008, 12:47 »

It's the house style, necroposting is frowned on if you have nothing new to add. List threads aren't that popular around here either. This was a dull thread, it really should have stayed dead. Why not start a new thread about an exciting band, local scene, genre or musical instrument you particularly like? Or one about Man Is The Bastard. I fucking love powerviolence.
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« Reply #343 on: 14 Jan 2008, 13:05 »

Air - mer du japon
Suburban Kids With Biblical Names - Shitty weekend
Violent Breakfast - Di quei colore di stoffa
The Get Up Kids - Close to home  :-P
Beirut - Nantes
This Bike Is a Pipe Bomb - Casey Jones
M.I.A. - Jimmy (And now I'm going to dance around like crazy, excuse me.)
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« Reply #344 on: 14 Jan 2008, 13:20 »

In addition, with the rate of growth, should we newbies just be contented to read the old posts and think about how great it would have been if we had joined sooner, so we could participate?

Pretty much, yeah. As a general rule you are go to post in any thread that has had replies in the last week or so, I would say. Anything significantly older and you better have something damn good to add.
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« Reply #345 on: 14 Jan 2008, 13:24 »

This was a dull thread, it really should have stayed dead.

Given the rather enthusiastic response rate, I'd say this is more a personal preference.

It's the house style, necroposting is frowned on if you have nothing new to add.

Pretty much, yeah. As a general rule you are go to post in any thread that has had replies in the last week or so, I would say. Anything significantly older and you better have something damn good to add.

If the house has other suggestions for how to integrate newer members, and ensure they're not discriminated against by virtue of the facts (1) they weren't here when the thread was launched first time around and (2) senior members feel they "have nothing new to add", I'm all ears. Personally, if someone felt that my opinion on a subject doesn't add anything new, I wouldn't be overally impressed....

Then again, in two years time, I'll probably be asking why people are necroposting....
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« Reply #346 on: 14 Jan 2008, 14:21 »

Yes, that's just a personal preference. I'm not a fan of listing things much.

As for being integrated, you could post in a thread on the first couple of pages or find an older thread where you can provide some new information such as a thread about a particular band who you know has done a new release you'd like to discuss, or a genre of music talked about where there are some artists you think were overlooked. Or you could start a thread about an artist or genre you know about and want to bring up or are interested in and would like to see if anybody here can give you some more information on. Maybe there's a more general observation about music you've made and you want to share, I notice the thread about music at work was started by somebody pretty new here and that's the kind of thing I mean.

That's all just me and my preference though, I'm hardly what you'd call a 'senior member' or anything like that and when I mentioned the 'house style' it was all based purely on what's been posted in threads describing the kind of posting preferred here stickied around the place.
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« Reply #347 on: 14 Jan 2008, 15:15 »

1- Zeppelin- when the levee breaks
2- Spinal tap- tonight I'm gonna rock you
3- Lynard Skynard- free bird
4- Stevie Ray Vaughan- cold shot
5- Fuck the Facts- tete l'hors
6- Gary Jules- mad world
7- Kings of Leon- milk
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Re: HIT SHUFFLE SAY YEAH
« Reply #348 on: 14 Jan 2008, 16:23 »

you could also always just post a new version of a thread instead of bumping from 2006

just sayin

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« Reply #349 on: 14 Jan 2008, 17:13 »

That's percisely what I did almost a year ago.

http://forums.questionablecontent.net/index.php/topic,15871.0.html
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