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Bands That Go "Wuurgggh!"
Misereatur:
--- Quote from: hey_there_fatty ---Growly vocals are groovy as long as they are done right..for example,Opeth.
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There are loads and loads of growls in metal. Opeth is using the "low-terrifying" type, which is great for their kind of metal, but not for every kind. Death Metal, Black Metal, Brutal, Grindcore: they all have different types of growls. For example - a high pitch Black Metal scream would be wrong for a Death Metal act such as Opeth, and a Grindcore "low-I-sound-like-a-vomiting-pig" growl is definetely wrong for thrashy black metal like Absu.
But, You can allways combine, like Soilent Green that uses Death Metal growls, screams and hardcore shouts.
Opeth's growls are great for Opeth, but not for every metal band ever.
Jedit:
--- Quote from: Misereatur ---
--- Quote from: hey_there_fatty ---Growly vocals are groovy as long as they are done right..for example,Opeth.
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There are loads and loads of growls in metal. Opeth is using the "low-terrifying" type, which is great for their kind of metal, but not for every kind. Death Metal, Black Metal, Brutal, Grindcore: they all have different types of growls. For example - a high pitch Black Metal scream would be wrong for a Death Metal act such as Opeth, and a Grindcore "low-I-sound-like-a-vomiting-pig" growl is definetely wrong for thrashy black metal like Absu.
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I look forward to the 2035 release of a nostalgia compilation entitled Twenty Golden Grindcore Melodies.
--- Quote ---But, You can allways combine, like Soilent Green that uses Death Metal growls, screams and hardcore shouts.
Opeth's growls are great for Opeth, but not for every metal band ever.
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So, to duck the dialogue on why Opeth are listenable that I asked you not to bother with and get back to my original question of what the difference is between the varying types of Band That Go "Wuurrgggh!", the answer is the tone of the "wuurrgggh!"?
Storm Rider:
You know, being really really condescending about the entire subject gets on my nerves slightly.
KharBevNor:
This debate is tired but
Agalloch >>>>>>>> Opeth.
And I don't even hate Opeth like some do.
The question is very annoying and unanswerable. The best answer I can think of is:
Death metal riff:
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Riff G
|---------------------------------|-----------------------------------|
|---------------------------------|-----------------------------------|
|------------------9---7----------|------------------10---9-----------|Gtr
|-----7---9---10-----------9---10-|-----7---9---10------------9---10~-|I&II
|-0-0---0---0----0---0---0---0----|-0-0---0---0----0----0---0---0-----|
|---------------------------------|-----------------------------------|
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
|------------------------------------|------------------------------------|
|------------------------------------|------------------------------------|
|-------------------12---10---9------|-------------------10---9-----------|Gtr
|-----9---10---12-----------------10-|-----9---10---12------------9---10~-|I&II
|-8-8---8----8----8----8----8---8----|-8-8---8----8----8----8---8---8-----|
|------------------------------------|------------------------------------|
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
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Black metal Riff:
Riff1:
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1st & 3rd 2nd 4th time
A|------------------------|-------|-------|4---5--|
E|-0-7-8-0-5-7-0-3-5-0-2-3|0-3-5--|5-3-2--|2---3--|
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
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On top of that, death metal uses articulated growls, whereas black metal is normally just screaming as hard as you can, or at least it should be. A good proportion of bands 'cookie monster' their vocals however. Bad description? Probably. Another one: black metal vocals are (should be) cathartic, emotional, painful. Death metal vocals not so. No, that was crap too.
hmn.
A black metal song:
Burzum - Ea, Lord of the Depths
A death metal song:
Bloodbath - Ominous Bloodvomit
A grindcore song:
Circle of Dead Children - A Family Tree to Hang From
A few favourite tracks of mine to try and illustrate the differences.
If you really want to know, go and listen to some of the stuff. There are countless differences in tone, imagery, musical complexity, influences, philosophy and so forth. I'm kinda dissapointed I uploaded all these before you were so...I dunno. Condescending. Because you can't understand something doesn't make it beneath you. Ah well. Go read wikipedia or something.
Der Golem:
The differences between these genres are largely atmospherical, so it's almost impossible to explain properly by text. Listen to the songs Khar posted (all of which are awesome by the way), you will be a better person for it and hopefully never feel the need to be annoyingly condescending to metalheads on a forum again.
And Agalloch > Opeth indeed.
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