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J. Jacques Doesn't Care About Black People: A Hip-Hop Thread
onewheelwizzard:
For every 12-year-old with a Zep shirt, there's 4 who just turn to their local rap station every time the radio comes on. Rap is basically the only music that exists for poor urban black kids.
beat mouse:
--- Quote from: onewheelwizzard ---For every 12-year-old with a Zep shirt, there's 4 who just turn to their local rap station every time the radio comes on. Rap is basically the only music that exists for poor urban black kids.
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oh i thought you meant every kind of person.
Praeserpium Machinarum:
I'll join the choir who dislike gangsta. I think the views they express through rapping are misguided and stupid. The message is what I have a problem with, to say that is akin to listening to a nazi band is a bit strong but I definitely disagree vehemently. Why? because I think it has a debasing effect, glorifying violence, degrading women, promoting ignorance etc. and the music isn't even that great. The most horryfying aspect being crunk and lord of shouting, Lil' Jon. It is a disease that needs to be rid ;)
On the other hand I never been that big a fan of hip hop/rap, I just don't see the appeal, especially american rap for some reason.
I enjoy grime to some extent and I like Dälek plus selected tracks by DJ Shadow, RJD2, Outkast and The Roots. The Danish mainstream rap scene is about as bad as anywhere else but I like Malk de Koijn and Bikstok Røgsystem(who are actually dancehall). And last but not least Goldie Lookin' Chain and MC Frontalot!
jose:
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and to the guy ^ who said T.I. - King... YESNO. There are a few song early on in the album that are KICKASS, but the album has dry patches where i find it totally boring. It's a pretty huge variety on the good meter.
And I can't possibly be the only guy who likes rap about sex guns and cars? It's not like I give two or three shtis about Conor Oberst's ex-girlfriend, so I can hardly see how the majority of music's content can be passed along, but rap music is cheap and horrible and should be demeritted because it's "mature" to rag on the lifestyle.
and since WHEN were ANY musicians rolemodels? if it isnt 50 cent singing about sex and drugs it's minus the bear singing about sex and drugs, or aerosmith singing about sex and drugs, or tori amos singing about sex and drugs. musician's lifestyles and image are NEVER good for rolemodels, so again, you can't dock rap for that.
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yeah, obviously king isn't perfect. the rest of your post is spot on.
jose:
--- Quote from: Praeserpium Machinarum ---I'll join the choir who dislike gangsta. I think the views they express through rapping are misguided and stupid. The message is what I have a problem with, to say that is akin to listening to a nazi band is a bit strong but I definitely disagree vehemently. Why? because I think it has a debasing effect, glorifying violence, degrading women, promoting ignorance etc. and the music isn't even that great. The most horryfying aspect being crunk and lord of shouting, Lil' Jon. It is a disease that needs to be rid ;)
On the other hand I never been that big a fan of hip hop/rap, I just don't see the appeal, especially american rap for some reason.
I enjoy grime to some extent and I like Dälek plus selected tracks by DJ Shadow, RJD2, Outkast and The Roots. The Danish mainstream rap scene is about as bad as anywhere else but I like Malk de Koijn and Bikstok Røgsystem(who are actually dancehall). And last but not least Goldie Lookin' Chain and MC Frontalot!
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I'm going to quote some dizzee rascal for you
Yo If that girl know's where you stay thats poor
some whore banging on your door what for
pregnant? what're you talking about this for
fifteen, she's underage thats raw
and against law 5 years or more
and she wants a score and half of a draw
some kind of friend that you try and ignore
that whore got you pinned down to the floor
but its your own fault you said three magic words (i love you)
when thats the one for the birds
when you said that she forgot other boys
its over you better start buying the toys
there was no intention in front of your wife
that she knows this that she's ending your life
its a real shame you got hacked by the whores
its a real shame that kid probably aint yours
Outkast talk about guns, sex, and cars too
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