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J. Jacques Doesn't Care About Black People: A Hip-Hop Thread
jose:
--- Quote from: PrinceMyshkin ---And to that guy who was dissing the Sugarhill Gang? Man, you've got to have respect for those who came before you. Hip-hop would have blown up eventually, but the Sugarhill Gang, sappy as they are, moved the genre into the mainstream, and furthered its evolution.
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Cross-over potential in and of itself doesn't really matter if you don't like the music.
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Eric B. & Rakim.
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awesome
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Also remember, mainstream rock sucks (cough Nickleback).
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bad comparision. what mainstream might lack in pure "lyrical complexity" (not that I buy that entirely, mind you) mainstream hip hop producers are really making some of the best, diverse, and sonically innovative beats around. that level of innovation is really hard to find in mainstream rock or even indie rock because of boths obsession with the past. not to say that there aren't exceptions obv
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One other thing: no Wu-Tang?
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no one does it better
BeoPuppy:
Guru! Us-3! Manau!
Basically ... I can't stand Hip-Hop unless it's mixed with other stuff ....
KharBevNor:
What was wrong with rock in the late 80's?
Nothing, I'll venture, worse than what was wrong with it in the early nineties.
Besides, viewing music as split simply into a rock camp and a rap camp is a little, well, 12 years old...
PrinceMyshkin:
I totally agree doing that is a bit immature. It's totally ignoring groups like Flipsyde and Body Count and the Beastie Boys who do amazing stuff.
Also, about late eighties rock, just a personal opinion. There was definitly good- even great- rock going on then, and here I am thinking of the Pixies. I just feel that at that point the glam/hair metal had evolved into something similar to that blob creature from Ghostbusters 2.
BrittanyMarie:
I like:
Blackalicious
Sage Francis
POS
The Crest (Minneapoliiiiiiiiiiiiiiiissssssss!)
The Me and You Crew (straight outta Fargo)
Atmosphere
Carnage
Public Enemy (even their new album is delightful)
Run-DMC (but not DMC solo)
whoever said Why? is totally right! I think Elephant Eyelash was EASILY the best album of 05.
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