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J. Jacques Doesn't Care About Black People: A Hip-Hop Thread
KharBevNor:
It's more totally ignoring the fantastic number of other styles of music that exist...
Running Wild - Under Jolly Roger, Ready for Boarding and Death or Glory, Judas Priest - Ram It Down and Painkiller, Bathory - Under the Sign of the Black Mark, Sabbat - History of a Time to Come and Dreamweaver, Venom - Prime Evil, Swans - Children of God....Meh, rock was doing fine from my perspective. As with rap, you have to look beneath the surface. Although, as I've said before, I'd take hair metal over grunge any day.
There really must be something hip-hoppish out there acceptable to me. Excepting Skindred, Bad Brains, some world and a few dub acts I've started to get into, my last.fm chart is hideously white, culturally
beat mouse:
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Just because we don’t want them to be role models doesn’t mean they aren’t...
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I was simply saying that rap isn't the only genre with influence over teens. we can't forget the goth kid who shot up columbine, etc. teenagers will do stupid violent irrational things when they are fucked up, rap music and marilyn manson dont fuck kids up.
--- Quote from: PrinceMyshkin ---Also, I'm shocked (shocked!) that no one has mentioned The Roots. Possibly the best hip-hop band (yes, I mean band, with instruments) ever, and I'm not even mentioning their AMAZING concerts.
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Cypress Hill would like a word with you, though I'm a little bit of a sucker for classic albums.
more recommendations in the old-school strain:
Raekwon - Only Built 4 Cuban Linx
Redman - Dare Iz A Darkside
Wu-tang Clan - Enter the Wu-Tang (36 Chambers)
Cypress Hill - Self Titled.
edit- vv it was more of an example, but the moral of the story is that industrial/nu-metal/whateverthefuckpeoplesaymansonmakes kills children. that's the important thing.
KharBevNor:
Just because, you know, I like bringing this point up, did you know neither of the Columbine shooters actually owned a single Manson album, or ever expressed a liking for him? Their favourite bands were actually KMFDM and Rammstein, (they quoted the lyrics to 'Son of a Gun' and 'Weisses Fleisch' in direct reference to the shooting, hideously misinterpreting both). No one is actually quite sure when Manson was introduced. I saw one paranoid fucker suggest it was a mind-control meme...
So, er, hip hop...
...I know this is a real long shot, but has anyone got any Rare Form tracks? The fucker deleted his myspace. 'Death to the World' was maybe the only hip-hop (Well, apocalyp-hop...) song I've ever managed to develop any serious affection for.
MilkmanDan:
When Gangster Hip-Hop goes good:
Wu-Tang Clan. And solo stuff. 36 Chambers, Liquid Swords, Only built 4 Cuban Linx at the very least.
Mobb Deep - The Infamous. GOD DAMN.
Black Moon
Smif n Wessun
Some of the best Hip-Hop albums ever.
Given that there are pretty extensive lists already, I'll just rep some local shit. UK Hip-Hop is pretty damn awesome.
Jehst, Lowkey, Taskforce, Klashnekoff, Phi Life Cypher, Brain Tax, Skinny Man. All good.
Given the Crunk and Gangster hate, this is a long shot, but does anyone listen to Grime? It's 99.9% violence and drugs and stuff, and the lyrical complexity is... low. But the energy! Oh. Not the best home listening, but nuts in a dance.
PrinceMyshkin:
Man, you forgot N.W.A! Straight Outta Compton is easily, in my book at least, one of the greatest albums ever made, right up there with Pet Sounds.
And grime? Hell yeah! I know he's not exactly it, but god I love Dizee Rascal. FIX UP LOOK SHARP.
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