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New Tool Album Leaked
BillyxRansom:
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--- Quote from: timehat ---I've liked Tool for some time now, I admit. I also admit that from what I've heard of the new album, it's been a disappointment. I like to see an artist grow and change, and from what I can tell, Tool just isn't doing that. So if boringess is an accusation to be leveled at Tool, now is an especially good time to make that argument. Now I may go on here to further label myself as a pretentious ass by saying that I find myself very pleased by a good bit of Mike Patton's work. He has an amazing voice and is able to handle a lot of diversity in the material he works on. As far as Devon Townsend and Dream Theater go, I've never liked them.
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i don't see how tool hasn't grown and changed. especially since it's been 5 years since they put out an album. it is impossible to not grow and change in that time.
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Then explain their latest album.
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read again: IT'S IMPOSSIBLE TO NOT GROW AND CHANGE IN 5 YEARS. that's why they haven't NOT grown and changed. the new album is a lot more personal. not to mention, they've managed to take aspects of EVERY ALBUM THEY'VE EVER PUT OUT, and at the same time, successfully have made something completely original from anything they've ever done, while still being able to make people say, "oh yeah, that's definitely tool."
don't ask me how they did it, i just know they did.
Kai:
Dude, chill out.
If you can't really off the top of your head note some pretty fair amount of change in your favorite band, chances are they're not changing. Especially for five years worth of time, you'd expect some pretty drastic changes.
Let's put this into perspective; Primus are one of my favorite bands ever. They're pretty awesome. But they don't evolve much. While it's a little more atmospheric and less funk influenced than it used to be, and they generally tend to jam out a bit more, there's not superb amounts of change between Suck On This and Animals Should Not Try To Act Like People.
Sythe:
Also, quoting the guy above you ftl.
Welcome to the FUTAR where we would rather not see your wordiness twice in a row. Also: Be assimilated by the Borg. You're not cool unless you do.
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est:
I used to be a pretty serious fan of Tool. I went to every show they played when they came out to Aus after Lateralus, and by that I mean that they played one show, went around Aus then played two more shows, and I went to all three (if I remember correctly). My friend and I actually debated going to one in either Newcastle or Wollongong too, I think.
What I think is especially telling about those shows is that my favourite thing from all of them was when they played the extended version of Pushit during one of the follow-up shows. I mean, the new stuff was ok, but I really dug their older stuff. I know that that is a stereotypical thing to say, but it's true, so fuck it.
Opiate and Undertow seemed honest, Aenima seemed like a real progression from the first stuff. Lateralus seemed like a progression in some ways, but not really in others. And where they "progressed" I didn't really like the direction they took. I mean, I enjoyed the album, but I only really liked a couple of songs on it. It didn't strike me as being anywhere near as good as Aenima. It also seemed kind of pretentious, like it was trying to be some kind of spiritual experience or something.
Anyways, this new album reminds me of the last one. There are some good bits to the new songs, but that's mostly because they are the same kind of good bits from previous songs rehashed into this new pretentious format. Not sure I'll buy the album, I mean, I've already got the other albums. If I want to listen to that kind of stuff I'll just grab one of the older ones.
Outshined:
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Opiate and Undertow seemed honest, Aenima seemed like a real progression from the first stuff. Lateralus seemed like a progression in some ways, but not really in others. And where they "progressed" I didn't really like the direction they took. I mean, I enjoyed the album, but I only really liked a couple of songs on it. It didn't strike me as being anywhere near as good as Aenima. It also seemed kind of pretentious, like it was trying to be some kind of spiritual experience or something.
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Why is it pretentious to try to create a spiritual context for your songs? Is there not a certain divinity in music that they are attempting to connect with and express?
I know Jeph has likened listening to Broken Social Scene to a spiritual experience, so why should that not be equally valid in the case of Tool?
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